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Is there any way to make the outlap count as a timed lap during practice at the Nurburgring? The reason I ask is that I find it very difficult to put together 2 laps in a row at the 'Ring without a few off track excurions. These end up damaging the suspension and, as a result, I'm invariably much quicker in the outlap than the first "hot lap".

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>Is there any way to make the outlap count as a timed lap during practice at >the Nurburgring? The reason I ask is that I find it very difficult to put >together 2 laps in a row at the 'Ring without a few off track excurions. >These end up damaging the suspension and, as a result, I'm invariably much >quicker in the outlap than the first "hot lap". > > >

Sure! Open the nurburg track.ini and change the stall_0 = line to: stall_0 = 20000.00 0 Notice the space before the last 0. This is start you in the middle of the long straight, giving you about 30 secs to heat your tires up before you cross s/f. you can change it to ~ 21500.00 to start in Tiergarten

"Tyler Eaves" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:%DpE6.5799$[email hidden]... > > > Sure! > Thanks :)

If you're just doing practice laps, you can change the place of your pitbox to anywhere on the track by editing the "track.ini" thats in de folder "\sierra\gpl\tracks\nurburg". Somewhere in the track.ini is a list of stalls. When you practice you always get stall_0. By changing the two values after is you can position yourself anywhere on the track! The first is the amount of meters after the start/finish line, the second is the amount you are to the left or right of the center of the track (negative is to the right). Below are some of the values I have in my track.ini. Experiment with it. stall_0 = 230.00 -9.30 ; original pit ;stall_0 = 19200.00 0 ; start of long straight ;stall_0 = 11200.00 0 ; halfway ;stall_0 = 13200.00 0 ; just before caroussel stall_1 = 219.47 -9.30 stall_2 = 208.95 -9.30 stall_3 = 198.42 -9.30 stall_4 = 187.89 -9.30 Good luck on the Ring. Peter On Sat, 21 Apr 2001 17:29:17 -0700, "Steven Dickson" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Is there any way to make the outlap count as a timed lap during practice at >the Nurburgring? The reason I ask is that I find it very difficult to put >together 2 laps in a row at the 'Ring without a few off track excurions. >These end up damaging the suspension and, as a result, I'm invariably much >quicker in the outlap than the first "hot lap". > >

In article <TupE6.456$[email hidden]>, "Steven Dickson" <[email hidden]> writes: >Is there any way to make the outlap count as a timed lap during practice at >the Nurburgring? The reason I ask is that I find it very difficult to put >together 2 laps in a row at the 'Ring without a few off track excurions. >These end up damaging the suspension and, as a result, I'm invariably much >quicker in the outlap than the first "hot lap". Well, that just means that you need more practice.<g> You'll get there - keep digging. Soon, you'll be able to run 14 laps... Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <TupE6.456$[email hidden]>, "Steven Dickson" <[email hidden]> writes: > Is there any way to make the outlap count as a timed lap during practice at > the Nurburgring? The reason I ask is that I find it very difficult to put > together 2 laps in a row at the 'Ring without a few off track excurions. > These end up damaging the suspension and, as a result, I'm invariably much > quicker in the outlap than the first "hot lap". Others have explained how to move your pitbox, but I might also add that if you're just in training mode, and you're just learning the Ring, it might help to turn damage off. That way you can keep practicing on hot tires, etc., all the way around without having to shift-r or something to repair damage. Marc

If only there were "no flip" and "no stuck in hedge" options as well as "no damage" :( <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9c1oc3$orl$[email hidden]... > In article <TupE6.456$[email hidden]>, > "Steven Dickson" <[email hidden]> writes: > > Is there any way to make the outlap count as a timed lap during practiceat > > the Nurburgring? The reason I ask is that I find it very difficult toput > > together 2 laps in a row at the 'Ring without a few off track excurions. > > These end up damaging the suspension and, as a result, I'm invariablymuch

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> > quicker in the outlap than the first "hot lap". > > Others have explained how to move your pitbox, but I might also add that > if you're just in training mode, and you're just learning the Ring, it > might help to turn damage off. That way you can keep practicing on hot > tires, etc., all the way around without having to shift-r or something > to repair damage. > > Marc

<[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9c1oc3$orl$[email hidden]... [snip] > Others have explained how to move your pitbox, but I might also add that > if you're just in training mode, and you're just learning the Ring, it > might help to turn damage off. That way you can keep practicing on hot > tires, etc., all the way around without having to shift-r or something > to repair damage. > Doh! I'd completely forgotten about Shift-R. That'll make things a _lot_ easier!

Eldred, you're naughty ;-) Steven, there is a utility called Ringtrainer (check with goggle for the URL) You can change your starting location to anywhere on the track. Chose something before the long straight, so your tires will be fairly warm when starting the lot lap. JensSchumi On 22 Apr 2001 22:15:17 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote:

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>In article <TupE6.456$[email hidden]>, "Steven Dickson" ><[email hidden]> writes: > >>Is there any way to make the outlap count as a timed lap during practice at >>the Nurburgring? The reason I ask is that I find it very difficult to put >>together 2 laps in a row at the 'Ring without a few off track excurions. >>These end up damaging the suspension and, as a result, I'm invariably much >>quicker in the outlap than the first "hot lap". > >Well, that just means that you need more practice.<g> You'll get there - keep >digging. Soon, you'll be able to run 14 laps... > >Eldred

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"Steven Dickson" <[email hidden]> writes: > Doh! I'd completely forgotten about Shift-R. That'll make things a _lot_ > easier! I wish I was as consistent... -- -asbjxrn Consultant, n.: An ordinary man a long way from home.

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>Eldred, >you're naughty ;-) > >Steven, >there is a utility called Ringtrainer (check with goggle for the URL) >You can change your starting location to anywhere on the track. Chose >something >before the long straight, so your tires will be fairly warm when starting the >lot lap. > >JensSchumi

Who, me? <g> I just figured if he was crashing that much, simply moving the pitlane wasn't going to help. He'd *still* need to learn the track a whole lot better. Trust me, I've been there... Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Who, me? <g> > I just figured if he was crashing that much, simply moving the pitlanewasn't > going to help. He'd *still* need to learn the track a whole lot better.Trust > me, I've been there... > I'm down to about 2 off-track excursions per lap now and a best time of just under 9:20. The only problem is that one or the other of those shunts is usually enough to either knock a wheel off or damage the suspension so badly that I limp around for the rest of the lap. I had forgotten about the Shift-R reset, so a crash 3/4 of the way through an otherwise good lap was enough to make me walk away in frustration. With the reset handy, I can afford to be more aggressive, spend more time learning the latter half of the track and actually enjoy the 'Ring rather than tip-toeing around it.

In article <V2eF6.450$[email hidden]>, "Steven Dickson" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> Who, me? <g> >> I just figured if he was crashing that much, simply moving the pitlane >wasn't >> going to help. He'd *still* need to learn the track a whole lot better. >Trust >> me, I've been there... >> > >I'm down to about 2 off-track excursions per lap now and a best time of just >under 9:20. The only problem is that one or the other of those shunts is >usually enough to either knock a wheel off or damage the suspension so badly >that I limp around for the rest of the lap. I had forgotten about the >Shift-R reset, so a crash 3/4 of the way through an otherwise good lap was >enough to make me walk away in frustration. > >With the reset handy, I can afford to be more aggressive, spend more time >learning the latter half of the track and actually enjoy the 'Ring rather >than tip-toeing around it.

Ah. I was mis-understanding. I figured you were *already* using Shift-r, but you had more 'offs' on the second lap for some reason... Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Steven. Copy and paste the following in your Nurburgring track .ini . It will let you start at the beginning of the long straight. Also, it will not prevent you from joining online Nurburgring races. Robert [ track ] track_name = N�rburgring track_name_short = N�rburgring track_num_turns = 174 track_length = 14.189m track_altitude = 0.0 ; Above, note track length given in miles, ; while altitude given in meters. [ configuration_0 ] ; Format: dlong, start dlat, end dlat, time penalty (sec), 0 (required) ; 3 checkpoint minimum checkpoint_0 = 2037.0 -14.0 7.5 5.0 0 ; prevents cutting Nordkehre II checkpoint_1 = 2763.3 -14.7 7.0 5.0 0 ; prevents cutting Hatzenbach II checkpoint_2 = 3138.0 -14.3 6.5 5.0 0 ; prevents cutting Hocheichen checkpoint_3 = 7069.5 -9.0 11.0 10.0 0 ; prevents cutting Adenauer Forst [ statistics ] reference_value = 500.0 [ ai_track ] end_start_behavior_section = 5.000000 ; section at which race start behavior should end merge_from_pit_line_dlong = 19900.000000 ; dlong at which cars leaving pits will merge to race line pit_at_end_of_track = 1.0 ; 0 if all stalls beyond s/f, 1 if not pit_lane_end_dlong = 19860.000000 ; dlong where pit lane divider ends pit_lane_entrance_width = 114.0 ; dlong width of pit lane entrance in meters pit_lane_has_wall = 0.000000 ; 0 if no pit wall, 1 if pit wall exists pit_lane_on_right = 1.000000 ; 0 if lane on left, 1 if on right pit_lane_start_dlong = 20740.400000 ; base dlong for calculating transition to pit line pit_lane_width_left = 2.000000 ; width of pit lane in meters to LEFT of PIT.LP pit_lane_width_right = 4.100000 ; width of pit lane in meters to RIGHT of PIT.LP start_of_pit_stalls = 19630.000000 ; dlong where pit stalls begin brabham_fuel_load_per_lap = 8.88 ; Brabham AI fuel loading in liters per lap brm_fuel_load_per_lap = 10.90 ; BRM AI fuel loading in liters per lap coventry_fuel_load_per_lap = 9.80 ; Coventry AI fuel loading in liters per lap eagle_fuel_load_per_lap = 9.94 ; Eagle AI fuel loading in liters per lap ferrari_fuel_load_per_lap = 10.06 ; Ferrari AI fuel loading in liters per lap lotus_fuel_load_per_lap = 9.47 ; Lotus AI fuel loading in liters per lap murasama_fuel_load_per_lap = 11.09 ; Murasama AI fuel loading in liters per lap track_global_hype_scaling = 0.75 ; scale back effects of GH at 'ring [ GP ] dlong_speed_adj_coeff = 1.040000 ; value modifies dlong velocities (i.e. RELS) in .LP dlong_speed_maximum = 2.390000 ; max. dlong speed (meters/tick) for .LP after all modifiers (e.g., dlong_speed_adj_coeff) [ pit_lane_0 ] lane_on_right = 1 ; 0 if lane on left, 1 if on right lane_has_wall = 0 ; 0 if no pit wall, 1 if pit wall exists lane_bounds_dlong = 20740.4 19880.1 ; start/end dlong of the pit lane lane_bounds_dlat = -6.1 -3.4 ; start/end dlat of the pit lane pit_board = 11.0 1200.0 -100.0 100.0 ; dlat of board, dlong of board, dlong LOS start, dlong LOS end (last 2 not used) stall_0 = 19780.00 -3.50 stall_1 = 19769.47 -3.50 stall_2 = 19758.95 -3.50 stall_3 = 19748.42 -3.50 stall_4 = 19737.89 -3.50 stall_5 = 19727.37 -3.50 stall_6 = 19716.84 -3.50 stall_7 = 19704.32 -3.50 stall_8 = 19695.79 -3.50 stall_9 = 19685.26 -3.50 stall_10 = 19674.74 -3.50 stall_11 = 19664.21 -3.50 stall_12 = 19653.68 -3.50 stall_13 = 19643.16 -3.50 stall_14 = 19632.63 -3.50 stall_15 = 19622.11 -3.50 stall_16 = 19611.58 -3.50 stall_17 = 19601.05 -3.50 stall_18 = 19590.53 -3.50 stall_19 = 19580.00 -3.50 [ starting_grid_0 ] ; old format 4x3 staggered grid ; polesitter on left ; new format 1x1 staggered grid for better online starts ; polesitter on right ; track length is <22770.05> ; grid front center at <22757.50, 2.30> ; width between boxes 4.00 - 5.50 ; distance between cars 8.00 (up to 16 cars can see the flag) stall_0 = 22756.30 0.30 stall_1 = 22748.30 5.80 stall_2 = 22740.30 -0.05 stall_3 = 22732.30 4.85 stall_4 = 22724.30 -0.80 stall_5 = 22716.30 3.90 stall_6 = 22708.30 -1.45 stall_7 = 22700.30 3.00 stall_8 = 22692.30 -1.60 stall_9 = 22684.30 2.10 stall_10 = 22676.30 -1.70 stall_11 = 22668.30 2.30 stall_12 = 22660.30 -1.70 stall_13 = 22652.30 2.30 stall_14 = 22644.30 -1.70 stall_15 = 22636.30 2.30 stall_16 = 22628.30 -1.70 stall_17 = 22620.30 2.30 stall_18 = 22612.30 -1.70 stall_19 = 22604.30 2.30

In article <Eo_E6.12432$[email hidden]>, "Rob Adams" <[email hidden]> writes: > If only there were "no flip" and "no stuck in hedge" options as well as "no > damage" :( Doesn't GPLEA have a weed whacker add-on for the front of the car, so you can hack your way back out of those hedges? Works great at Monza too, if you overdo it exiting Lesmo 2. ;-) Marc

Me too <vbg> But sometimes you are greedy for a good lap-time. It freshens your motivation and --- hell, the track you can also learn later ;-) JensSchumi

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> >Who, me? <g> >I just figured if he was crashing that much, simply moving the pitlane wasn't >going to help. He'd *still* need to learn the track a whole lot better. Trust >me, I've been there... > >Eldred

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