Weird graphics anomolies at 'dega in N4 with V5.

I was wondering if anyone else has noticed strange graphics anomolies while driving the Talladega track in N4? It's the only track that I have noticed this effect so far... basically the tar patches on the track surface seem to shimmer or almost hover above the track surface and after a couple of AI cars wrecked in front of me in turn 4 the skid marks seem to be suspended in mid air and I was driving under them. I have my V5 5500 running the latest drivers (Driver Rev. 1.04.01 with the x3dfx driver installed dated 31/01/01... I did follow the advice on the 3D Spotlight's V4/5 Tweak Guide to backup 3dfxvs.dll because of problems with the x3dfx D3D driver.) and I am using it at 2X FSAA @ 800 X600 resolution. I am currently getting about 45 to 60 fps using the built in frames counter in N4... if fluctuates depending upon how many cars are around me and where I am on the track but it never drops below the 40's. The rest of my system that is pertinent: 1.2 Ghz. Athlon Abit KT7A-Raid 3dfx V5 5500 2 X 128 Mb SpecTek SDRAM 30 Gig IBM Deskstar ATA100 SBLive! Win98SE If anyone else has noticed this I would appreciate any tips or fixes that may have been discovered. I have my V5's driver optimised using the suggestions in the tweak guide at 3D Spotlight and I have never seen this kind of effect in any other sim or at any other track in N4. TIA, Robin

I see that also -- Kevin Anderson [email hidden] "Robin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:YNHE6.10143$[email hidden]... > I was wondering if anyone else has noticed strange graphics anomolies while > driving the Talladega track in N4? It's the only track that I have noticed > this effect so far... basically the tar patches on the track surface seem to > shimmer or almost hover above the track surface and after a couple of AI > cars wrecked in front of me in turn 4 the skid marks seem to be suspended in > mid air and I was driving under them. I have my V5 5500 running the latest > drivers (Driver Rev. 1.04.01 with the x3dfx driver installed dated > 31/01/01... I did follow the advice on the 3D Spotlight's V4/5 Tweak Guide > to backup 3dfxvs.dll because of problems with the x3dfx D3D driver.) and I > am using it at 2X FSAA @ 800 X600 resolution. I am currently getting about > 45 to 60 fps using the built in frames counter in N4... if fluctuates > depending upon how many cars are around me and where I am on the track but > it never drops below the 40's. > The rest of my system that is pertinent: > 1.2 Ghz. Athlon > Abit KT7A-Raid > 3dfx V5 5500 > 2 X 128 Mb SpecTek SDRAM > 30 Gig IBM Deskstar ATA100 > SBLive! > Win98SE > > If anyone else has noticed this I would appreciate any tips or fixes that > may have been discovered. I have my V5's driver optimised using the > suggestions in the tweak guide at 3D Spotlight and I have never seen this > kind of effect in any other sim or at any other track in N4. > TIA, > Robin > >

GPL does the "hovering skid mark" thing occasionally too. It happens on most tracks but is most noticeable at Bristol (converted from N3). (I bring GPL into this N4 discussion because N4 uses a similar engine to GPL, not because I'm a GPL nut - which I am...) "Kevin Anderson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:v%LE6.43495$[email hidden]...

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> I see that also > > -- > Kevin Anderson > [email hidden] > > "Robin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:YNHE6.10143$[email hidden]... > > I was wondering if anyone else has noticed strange graphics anomolies > while > > driving the Talladega track in N4? It's the only track that I have

noticed > > this effect so far... basically the tar patches on the track surfaceseem > to > > shimmer or almost hover above the track surface and after a couple of AI > > cars wrecked in front of me in turn 4 the skid marks seem to besuspended > in > > mid air and I was driving under them. I have my V5 5500 running thelatest > > drivers (Driver Rev. 1.04.01 with the x3dfx driver installed dated > > 31/01/01... I did follow the advice on the 3D Spotlight's V4/5 TweakGuide > > to backup 3dfxvs.dll because of problems with the x3dfx D3D driver.) andI > > am using it at 2X FSAA @ 800 X600 resolution. I am currently gettingabout > > 45 to 60 fps using the built in frames counter in N4... if fluctuates > > depending upon how many cars are around me and where I am on the trackbut

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> > it never drops below the 40's. > > The rest of my system that is pertinent: > > 1.2 Ghz. Athlon > > Abit KT7A-Raid > > 3dfx V5 5500 > > 2 X 128 Mb SpecTek SDRAM > > 30 Gig IBM Deskstar ATA100 > > SBLive! > > Win98SE > > > > If anyone else has noticed this I would appreciate any tips or fixes

that > > may have been discovered. I have my V5's driver optimised using the > > suggestions in the tweak guide at 3D Spotlight and I have never seenthis

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> > kind of effect in any other sim or at any other track in N4. > > TIA, > > Robin > > > > > >

Okay, so I haven't been dedicating as much time to GPL since I purchased N4 as I should have. I haven't noticed the "hovering skid mark" anomolie in GPL to this point and I've only tried the speedways in N4 to date... as I stated earlier 'dega was the first track where I noticed it. I was wondering if this phenomenon is isolated to 3dfx products or do the Nvidia cards exhibit this same behavior? Just curious at this point... I guess I can live with it but it is distracting... very distracting. I think I just found an excuse for bad laps at 'dega!! ;) Robin "Rob Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:GDME6.7596$[email hidden]... > GPL does the "hovering skid mark" thing occasionally too. It happens onmost

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> tracks but is most noticeable at Bristol (converted from N3). > > (I bring GPL into this N4 discussion because N4 uses a similar engine to > GPL, not because I'm a GPL nut - which I am...) > > "Kevin Anderson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:v%LE6.43495$[email hidden]... > > I see that also > > > > -- > > Kevin Anderson > > [email hidden] > > > > "Robin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:YNHE6.10143$[email hidden]... > > > I was wondering if anyone else has noticed strange graphics anomolies > > while > > > driving the Talladega track in N4? It's the only track that I have > noticed > > > this effect so far... basically the tar patches on the track surface > seem > > to > > > shimmer or almost hover above the track surface and after a couple of

AI

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> > > cars wrecked in front of me in turn 4 the skid marks seem to be > suspended > > in > > > mid air and I was driving under them. I have my V5 5500 running the > latest > > > drivers (Driver Rev. 1.04.01 with the x3dfx driver installed dated > > > 31/01/01... I did follow the advice on the 3D Spotlight's V4/5 Tweak > Guide > > > to backup 3dfxvs.dll because of problems with the x3dfx D3D driver.)

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> I > > > am using it at 2X FSAA @ 800 X600 resolution. I am currently getting > about > > > 45 to 60 fps using the built in frames counter in N4... if fluctuates > > > depending upon how many cars are around me and where I am on the track > but > > > it never drops below the 40's. > > > The rest of my system that is pertinent: > > > 1.2 Ghz. Athlon > > > Abit KT7A-Raid > > > 3dfx V5 5500 > > > 2 X 128 Mb SpecTek SDRAM > > > 30 Gig IBM Deskstar ATA100 > > > SBLive! > > > Win98SE > > > > > > If anyone else has noticed this I would appreciate any tips or fixes > that > > > may have been discovered. I have my V5's driver optimised using the > > > suggestions in the tweak guide at 3D Spotlight and I have never seen > this > > > kind of effect in any other sim or at any other track in N4. > > > TIA, > > > Robin > > > > > > > > > > > >

I've seen them as well on my GeForce 2MX. -Gregor Robin wrote:

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> > Okay, so I haven't been dedicating as much time to GPL since I purchased N4 > as I should have. I haven't noticed the "hovering skid mark" anomolie in GPL > to this point and I've only tried the speedways in N4 to date... as I stated > earlier 'dega was the first track where I noticed it. I was wondering if > this phenomenon is isolated to 3dfx products or do the Nvidia cards exhibit > this same behavior? Just curious at this point... I guess I can live with it > but it is distracting... very distracting. I think I just found an excuse > for bad laps at 'dega!! ;) > Robin

I have an ATI Radeon All-in-Wonder and have NOT seen this. I am running in Direct 3D rather than Open GL as it seems to work best for me. Doug B. (Don't gimme NOCRAP in E-mail)

"hovering skid mark" I'm sorry. I just quit laughing long enough to point out this possible race-fan related euphemism for a fart. "Geesh Tom, that hovering skid mark you just laid was a doozy!" "Someone get a match, I just laid about six feet of hovering skid mark" hehe "Robin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:dMQE6.9139$[email hidden]... > Okay, so I haven't been dedicating as much time to GPL since I purchasedN4 > as I should have. I haven't noticed the "hovering skid mark" anomolie inGPL > to this point and I've only tried the speedways in N4 to date... as Istated > earlier 'dega was the first track where I noticed it. I was wondering if > this phenomenon is isolated to 3dfx products or do the Nvidia cardsexhibit > this same behavior? Just curious at this point... I guess I can live withit

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> but it is distracting... very distracting. I think I just found an excuse > for bad laps at 'dega!! ;) > Robin > "Rob Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:GDME6.7596$[email hidden]... > > GPL does the "hovering skid mark" thing occasionally too. It happens on > most > > tracks but is most noticeable at Bristol (converted from N3). > > > > (I bring GPL into this N4 discussion because N4 uses a similar engine to > > GPL, not because I'm a GPL nut - which I am...) > > > > "Kevin Anderson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:v%LE6.43495$[email hidden]... > > > I see that also > > > > > > -- > > > Kevin Anderson > > > [email hidden] > > > > > > "Robin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:YNHE6.10143$[email hidden]... > > > > I was wondering if anyone else has noticed strange graphics

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> > > while > > > > driving the Talladega track in N4? It's the only track that I have > > noticed > > > > this effect so far... basically the tar patches on the track surface > > seem > > > to > > > > shimmer or almost hover above the track surface and after a couple

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> AI > > > > cars wrecked in front of me in turn 4 the skid marks seem to be > > suspended > > > in > > > > mid air and I was driving under them. I have my V5 5500 running the > > latest > > > > drivers (Driver Rev. 1.04.01 with the x3dfx driver installed dated > > > > 31/01/01... I did follow the advice on the 3D Spotlight's V4/5 Tweak > > Guide > > > > to backup 3dfxvs.dll because of problems with the x3dfx D3D driver.) > and > > I > > > > am using it at 2X FSAA @ 800 X600 resolution. I am currently getting > > about > > > > 45 to 60 fps using the built in frames counter in N4... if

fluctuates > > > > depending upon how many cars are around me and where I am on thetrack

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> > but > > > > it never drops below the 40's. > > > > The rest of my system that is pertinent: > > > > 1.2 Ghz. Athlon > > > > Abit KT7A-Raid > > > > 3dfx V5 5500 > > > > 2 X 128 Mb SpecTek SDRAM > > > > 30 Gig IBM Deskstar ATA100 > > > > SBLive! > > > > Win98SE > > > > > > > > If anyone else has noticed this I would appreciate any tips or fixes > > that > > > > may have been discovered. I have my V5's driver optimised using the > > > > suggestions in the tweak guide at 3D Spotlight and I have never seen > > this > > > > kind of effect in any other sim or at any other track in N4. > > > > TIA, > > > > Robin > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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>"hovering skid mark" > >I'm sorry. I just quit laughing long enough to point out this >possible race-fan related euphemism for a fart. > >"Geesh Tom, that hovering skid mark you just laid was a doozy!" >"Someone get a match, I just laid about six feet of hovering skid mark" >

ROFLMAO....man you brought tears to my eyes with that.

Thanks man. Glad you appreciated it. I was laughing so darned hard today I had a hard time typing it. "Oakus" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > >"hovering skid mark" > > > >I'm sorry. I just quit laughing long enough to point out this > >possible race-fan related euphemism for a fart. > > > >"Geesh Tom, that hovering skid mark you just laid was a doozy!" > >"Someone get a match, I just laid about six feet of hovering skid mark" > > > > ROFLMAO....man you brought tears to my eyes with that.