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Nascar 4 - startup problems

13 posts by 6 people · 23 Apr 2001 09:40 UTC - 24 Apr 2001 07:31 UTC

Andre Warringa 23 Apr 2001 09:40 UTC#189450
The Euro version has some strange problems with the startup. I have to click the N4 shortcut 5-10 times before it starts. Is this also due to that stupid copy protection? I thought that the people who had the copy protection problems couldn't start N4 at all. I have the problem with both of my drivers, a Creative DVD player and the HP 8100 burner. Someone else who also has the Euro version has exactly the same problem.. Andre
Joeri Cox 23 Apr 2001 10:12 UTC↳ reply to jhl#189454
I had a similar problem with the European version of (tadaaa!) Grand Prix Legends: I would click the shortcut, wait a minute and finally GPL launched. I got the US version of N4 and that's not giving me a problem. Maybe it has something to do with the factory that is used to produce the European Papyrus CDROMS? Just a wild guess.. --- Joeri J. Cox European Racing League GM - http://drive.to/erl 502 Racing co-founder - http://www.502racing.com jhl wrote in message <9c0vbt$g62$[email hidden]>... >I have similar problems (euro version), when I click the icon on my desktop >nothing seems to happen, but I can hear my cd drive trying to start up a >couple of times, after quite a while it finally starts. The same sort of >thing happens when I start a practice or race session, sometimes it takes >just a few seconds but most of the time it seems to take almost twominutes,
Quoted text (19 lines)>while my harddisk and cd drive aren't doing anything! It's a small problem, >but it is quite annoying... >JH > > >Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> The Euro version has some strange problems with the startup. I have to >> click the N4 shortcut 5-10 times before it starts. Is this also due to >> that stupid copy protection? I thought that the people who had the >> copy protection problems couldn't start N4 at all. >> I have the problem with both of my drivers, a Creative DVD player and >> the HP 8100 burner. >> Someone else who also has the Euro version has exactly the same >> problem.. >> >> Andre > >
I have similar problems (euro version), when I click the icon on my desktop nothing seems to happen, but I can hear my cd drive trying to start up a couple of times, after quite a while it finally starts. The same sort of thing happens when I start a practice or race session, sometimes it takes just a few seconds but most of the time it seems to take almost two minutes, while my harddisk and cd drive aren't doing anything! It's a small problem, but it is quite annoying... JH Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (10 lines)> The Euro version has some strange problems with the startup. I have to > click the N4 shortcut 5-10 times before it starts. Is this also due to > that stupid copy protection? I thought that the people who had the > copy protection problems couldn't start N4 at all. > I have the problem with both of my drivers, a Creative DVD player and > the HP 8100 burner. > Someone else who also has the Euro version has exactly the same > problem.. > > Andre
Yup, Andre, mine takes up to 2 minutes to start. Annoying, isn't it! -- Colin ICQ 25485061 Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > The Euro version has some strange problems with the startup. I have to > click the N4 shortcut 5-10 times before it starts.
Andre, I believe Olav got the same problem as you.... and he too got a DVD drive. I think this is due to the Securom copy-protection thingy. Not sure if a patch will fix this or not... so perhaps getting a(nother) "normal" CD-player is the best option? They *should* be dirt-cheap these days... ed_ "Andre Warringa" wrote:...
Quoted text (10 lines)> The Euro version has some strange problems with the startup. I have to > click the N4 shortcut 5-10 times before it starts. Is this also due to > that stupid copy protection? I thought that the people who had the > copy protection problems couldn't start N4 at all. > I have the problem with both of my drivers, a Creative DVD player and > the HP 8100 burner. > Someone else who also has the Euro version has exactly the same > problem.. > > Andre
On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 10:12:26 GMT, "Joeri Cox" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (7 lines)>I had a similar problem with the European version of (tadaaa!) Grand Prix >Legends: I would click the shortcut, wait a minute and finally GPL launched. >I got the US version of N4 and that's not giving me a problem. Maybe it has >something to do with the factory that is used to produce the European >Papyrus CDROMS? Just a wild guess.. >--- >Joeri J. Cox
With GPL you had to change something in the core.ini file. There's something like 'modem search = 1' in it, and if your modem was turned off GPL took a couple of minutes before it would start. I can't remember exactly but it was something like that. Andre
On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 12:18:25 +0200, "jhl" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (8 lines)>I have similar problems (euro version), when I click the icon on my desktop >nothing seems to happen, but I can hear my cd drive trying to start up a >couple of times, after quite a while it finally starts. The same sort of >thing happens when I start a practice or race session, sometimes it takes >just a few seconds but most of the time it seems to take almost two minutes, >while my harddisk and cd drive aren't doing anything! It's a small problem, >but it is quite annoying... >JH
Yep, I have the long waits at the start/practice session problem too :( Andre
Just saw this post on Sierra's NASCAR4 forum: http://community.sierra.com/WebX?[email hidden]^3@.eecfebd Perhaps this will help....? For firmware links for the CD-R/RW - try this page: http://www.ahead.de/en/firmware.htm ed_ I just wrote: > Andre, > > I believe Olav got the same problem as you.... and he too got a DVDdrive.
Quoted text (7 lines)> I think this is due to the Securom copy-protection thingy. > > Not sure if a patch will fix this or not... so perhaps getting a(nother) > "normal" CD-player is the best option? They *should* be dirt-cheap these > days... > > ed_
On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 13:23:36 +0200, "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Andre, > >I believe Olav got the same problem as you.... and he too got a DVD drive. >I think this is due to the Securom copy-protection thingy. Lol, the 'someone else' I was referring to was Olav :) >Not sure if a patch will fix this or not... so perhaps getting a(nother) >"normal" CD-player is the best option? They *should* be dirt-cheap these >days... But I only have room for 2 drives.. and I won't replace either my DVD drive or my burner for a normal cdrom player just because papy screwed up with this Securom protection :( We had a blast yesterday with the IGPLC crew at Bristol and Watkins, too bad you couldn't join us Ed. My report is on the IGPLC forum. Andre
Quoted text (15 lines)>ed_ > >"Andre Warringa" wrote:... >> The Euro version has some strange problems with the startup. I have to >> click the N4 shortcut 5-10 times before it starts. Is this also due to >> that stupid copy protection? I thought that the people who had the >> copy protection problems couldn't start N4 at all. >> I have the problem with both of my drivers, a Creative DVD player and >> the HP 8100 burner. >> Someone else who also has the Euro version has exactly the same >> problem.. >> >> Andre > >
> But I only have room for 2 drives.. and I won't replace either my DVD > drive or my burner for a normal cdrom player just because papy screwed > up with this Securom protection :( ahem, it was Sierra who screwed it :( There's nothing Papy could have done. -- Mika Takala [email hidden] Please remove the invalid parts from my email address if replying by email.
On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 15:57:50 +0300, "Mika Takala" <[email hidden]> wrote: >> But I only have room for 2 drives.. and I won't replace either my DVD >> drive or my burner for a normal cdrom player just because papy screwed >> up with this Securom protection :( > >ahem, it was Sierra who screwed it :( >There's nothing Papy could have done. You're right, sorry. Anyway, it's so stupid, I've got hundreds of original games and notasingleonofthem have startup problems, except N4. That Securom protection SUCKS! Andre >-- >Mika Takala >[email hidden] >Please remove the invalid parts from my email address if replying by email. > >
> You're right, sorry. > Anyway, it's so stupid, I've got hundreds of original games and > notasingleonofthem have startup problems, except N4. > That Securom protection SUCKS! > > Andre That's unfortunately true. I have the same problem too. It seems that the game hangs every now and then when trying to start it. It just hangs there on the screen that says N4 1.0.0.0. W2k's task manager can shut it down so no problem. This is with a Plextor IDE cd-writer. -- Mika Takala [email hidden] Please remove the invalid parts from my email address if replying by email.
On Mon, 23 Apr 2001 18:41:55 +0300, "Mika Takala" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (16 lines)>> You're right, sorry. >> Anyway, it's so stupid, I've got hundreds of original games and >> notasingleonofthem have startup problems, except N4. >> That Securom protection SUCKS! >> >> Andre > >That's unfortunately true. I have the same problem too. It seems that the >game hangs every now and then when trying to start it. It just hangs there >on the screen that says N4 1.0.0.0. W2k's task manager can shut it down so >no problem. This is with a Plextor IDE cd-writer. > >-- >Mika Takala >[email hidden] >Please remove the invalid parts from my email address if replying by email.
Afaik the problems mostly happen with DVD drives or burners. I uprgades the firmware of both drives, but no luck, N4 still starts 1 out of 5 times. I'll have to live with this crap I guess :( Andre

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