Err.. a 'how do I fasten a handcam in a car' question

11-13 may I'm going to the Ring with a couple of friends, with 3 Alfa GTV's and an Alfa 147, doing some serious racing there :) A friend of mine will buy a handcam to tape our sub-8 laps, but we were wondering what the best way to fasten a handcam in a car is, without damaging the car ofcourse :) Andre

Here's what I did... I put the (rented) camera on a tripod. I positioned the tripod with two legs in the rear footwells and the 3rd on the back seat, so it straddled the central column and the camera looked out the windshield in between the driver and the passenger seat. To secure it I put the rear central lap belt through the leg which was on the seat and secured the two front legs by wrapping a bungee around them and securing those around the front head rests. I'm still looking for an opportunity to capture the footage I got, so I can't give you an example of the results (which were pretty damn good, IMO, considering I'm both an amateur camerman and driver ;-)), unless you mail me your street address so I can send you a copy of the tape. Good luck with opening times, getting there and doing the laps (14m30s to beat, remember ;-)). Don't become one of those who get towed out of the circuit and foremost: don't hurt yourself. Jan. =--- Andre Warringa wrote... > 11-13 may I'm going to the Ring with a couple of friends, > <snip>

"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> writes: > Good luck with opening times, getting there and doing the laps (14m30s to > beat, remember ;-)). Don't become one of those who get towed out of the > circuit and foremost: don't hurt yourself. About 12:15 here, with passenger and luggage. (Only got three laps before it closed. It was closed most of the day due to some club renting it.) -- -asbjxrn Consultant, n.: An ordinary man a long way from home.

On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 11:36:59 +0200, "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Here's what I did...<snip> Thanks, seems like a good solution to me. Much better than our Lots-a-Ducttape(Tm) solution anyway! >Good luck with opening times, getting there and doing the laps (14m30s to >beat, remember ;-)). Don't become one of those who get towed out of the >circuit and foremost: don't hurt yourself. No, we allready agreed to stay alive and not push the car to it's limits in real life. That friend of mine got a heavy accident on the highway a month ago, he wasn't hurt but his car was damaged bigtime, just a week after his girlfriend wrecked her car, an Alfa Spider '91 :( Too bad real life doesn't have shift-R, long live sim racing.. PS According to the official site the Ring is open at 11-13 may, so I can assume safely that the gates won't be closed like they were the last time I visited the Ring? Or should we bring some tools with us to break that gate open just in case? Andre

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>Jan. >=--- >Andre Warringa wrote... >> 11-13 may I'm going to the Ring with a couple of friends, >> <snip> > >

If you are going to time, most people time bridge (just after you join the track) to gantry (just after you rejoin the straight at dottinger hohe) Sub 10mins bridge to gantry in a Honda CRX to beat here ;) But seriously I wouldn't push too hard, just check out the pics here! http://www.lovejoy.demon.co.uk/nuerburgring/whoops.html This is what the official site says at the mo, doesn't look open till the sat evening. May time 10 th 17.45 - 19.30 11 fr -- 12 sa 17.00 - 19.30 13 su 8.00 - 19.30 14 mo 12.15 - 19.30 15 tu 17.45 - 19.30 To make sure the track will be open call the hut at the start/finish on 02691 302 215 or 02691 302 144 or 02691 302 600 Even if the calendar says its open it may not be (eg. when I went at easter it snowed on sat eve, so the track was shut on sunday) As regards attaching cameras etc you could try asking Joerund at http://www.motorcycle-dk.com/default.htm Or join the ringers list http://www.yahoogroups.com/group/ringers and search the archived posts for camera mount, its been discussed there before. Have fun, and hope its open (if not you can spend your time drinking weissbier, and stuffing your face at Pistenklause in N�rburg) -- Cheers, Robin Lord - Trance DJ & Sim Racer. http://www.oppositelock.co.uk N�rburgring and Grand Prix Legends Andre Warringa <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... | On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 11:36:59 +0200, "Jan Verschueren" | <[email hidden]> wrote: | | >Here's what I did... | <snip> | | Thanks, seems like a good solution to me. Much better than our | Lots-a-Ducttape(Tm) solution anyway! | | >Good luck with opening times, getting there and doing the laps (14m30s to | >beat, remember ;-)). Don't become one of those who get towed out of the | >circuit and foremost: don't hurt yourself. | | No, we allready agreed to stay alive and not push the car to it's | limits in real life. That friend of mine got a heavy accident on the | highway a month ago, he wasn't hurt but his car was damaged bigtime, | just a week after his girlfriend wrecked her car, an Alfa Spider '91 | :( | Too bad real life doesn't have shift-R, long live sim racing.. | | PS According to the official site the Ring is open at 11-13 may, so I | can assume safely that the gates won't be closed like they were the | last time I visited the Ring? Or should we bring some tools with us to | break that gate open just in case? | | Andre | | >Jan. | >=--- | >Andre Warringa wrote... | >> 11-13 may I'm going to the Ring with a couple of friends, | >> <snip> | > | > |

Good time... which car/bike? Jan. =--- Asbj�rn Bj�rnstad wrote...

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> <snip> > About 12:15 here, with passenger and luggage. > (Only got three laps before it closed. It was > closed most of the day due to some club renting > it.) > -- > -asbjxrn Consultant, n.: > An ordinary man a long way from home.

Hi Andre - I don't know what the seat backs look like in the Alfa's, but if they have adjustable height headrests you might try what a friend of mine did. Since his headrests were on two metal tubes that slid into the seatback, he just had a piece of wood with holes in it that slipped between headrest and seatback. The steel tubes from the headrest went through the wood into the seatback, "clamping" it in place. The piece of wood bridged from the driver's seatback to the passenger's and he drilled a hole at midpoint to mount the camera. Easy to take out and re-install. I thought this arrangement would allow a lot of back-and-forth movement, what with the weight of the camera perched on top of a pretty narrow piece of wood, but it seemed to work OK. YMMV, of course... ...Klinn "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> 11-13 may I'm going to the Ring with a couple of friends, with 3 Alfa > GTV's and an Alfa 147, doing some serious racing there :) > A friend of mine will buy a handcam to tape our sub-8 laps, but we > were wondering what the best way to fasten a handcam in a car is, > without damaging the car ofcourse :) > > Andre

"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> writes: > Good time... which car/bike? Porsche 944. -- -asbjxrn Consultant, n.: An ordinary man a long way from home.

"Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> 11-13 may I'm going to the Ring with a couple of friends, with 3 Alfa > GTV's and an Alfa 147, doing some serious racing there :) > A friend of mine will buy a handcam to tape our sub-8 laps, but we > were wondering what the best way to fasten a handcam in a car is, > without damaging the car ofcourse :) > > Andre

Here is a good description on how to make a handycam mount yourself. Have not done it myself yet, but expect to do in the future. Ivar

Natch. Jan. =--- Asbj�rn Bj�rnstad wrote... > <snip> > Porsche 944. > -- > -asbjxrn Consultant, n.: > An ordinary man a long way from home.

to take some paper towels and window cleaner with you. You won't believe the amount of crap that accumulates on your windshield in just a couple of laps. Jan. =---

On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 10:35:19 +0200, "Ivar Sandstad" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>"Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> 11-13 may I'm going to the Ring with a couple of friends, with 3 Alfa >> GTV's and an Alfa 147, doing some serious racing there :) >> A friend of mine will buy a handcam to tape our sub-8 laps, but we >> were wondering what the best way to fasten a handcam in a car is, >> without damaging the car ofcourse :) >> >> Andre > >Here is a good description on how to make a handycam mount yourself. >Have not done it myself yet, but expect to do in the future. > >Ivar

Err.. where is the description? :)) Andre

On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 20:53:11 +0100, "Robin Lord" <[email hidden]> wrote: <snip> Thanks for the help guys! Unfortunately our weekend has been postponed with 3-4 weeks, that friend of mine wrecked his alfa a couple of weeks ago. The garage called him yesterday, they can't fix the alfa completely before our Ring-weekend. So now the plan is to go in August.. Andre

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> On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 20:53:11 +0100, "Robin Lord" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > <snip> > > Thanks for the help guys! Unfortunately our weekend has been postponed > with 3-4 weeks, that friend of mine wrecked his alfa a couple of weeks > ago. The garage called him yesterday, they can't fix the alfa > completely before our Ring-weekend. So now the plan is to go in > August..

If you are going to be there over a weekend I would actually advice you to look at the calendar and find a date where the track isn't open to the public the whole weekend. If you can find a day where there are some interesting activities it may be a better day to visit depending on your interests of course. The day I was there the track was closed most of the day, I think it was rented by some sort of Britich racing club or something. The good part was that you could walk around in the pit area and look and (carfully) touch a lot of amazing machinery. There was a Alfa Romeo from the 20s, a lot of caterhams of course, lolas, some old ferraris a 1999 (I think, this was in 2000) 911 GT1 etc. etc. I was drooling so much I got dehydrated. I also missed a HUGE photo opportunity because I was too slow. In the road past the track I observed the 911 GT1 overtake a sligtly old and dirty lorry. Would have been a great racing shot :-) The downside is of course that you can't spend as much time on the track. But from my day at the ring, it's the drooling part I remember the most. -- -asbjxrn Consultant, n.: An ordinary man a long way from home.

On Thu, 26 Apr 2001 00:48:33 +0200, "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote: >to take some paper towels and window cleaner with you. You won't believe the >amount of crap that accumulates on your windshield in just a couple of laps. > >Jan. >=--- Good tip, thanks :) Andre

"Asbj�rn Bj�rnstad" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > About 12:15 here, with passenger and luggage. (Only got three laps > before it closed. It was closed most of the day due to some club renting > it.) 12m30s, with a Mercedes Sprinter van ;-) http://video.motorcycle-dk.com/ring_van.avi

12m30s, with a Mercedes Sprinter van ;-) http://video.motorcycle-dk.com/ring_van.avi

Here is a description on how to do it yourself. Link missing in previous post. http://www.hybrid.honda-perf.org/contrib/cameramount/buildit.html Ivar "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 10:35:19 +0200, "Ivar Sandstad" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >"Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:[email hidden]... > >> 11-13 may I'm going to the Ring with a couple of friends, with 3 Alfa > >> GTV's and an Alfa 147, doing some serious racing there :) > >> A friend of mine will buy a handcam to tape our sub-8 laps, but we > >> were wondering what the best way to fasten a handcam in a car is, > >> without damaging the car ofcourse :) > >> > >> Andre > > > >Here is a good description on how to make a handycam mount yourself. > >Have not done it myself yet, but expect to do in the future. > > > >Ivar > > Err.. where is the description? :)) > > Andre >

"Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> 11-13 may I'm going to the Ring with a couple of friends, with 3 Alfa > GTV's and an Alfa 147, doing some serious racing there :) > A friend of mine will buy a handcam to tape our sub-8 laps, but we > were wondering what the best way to fasten a handcam in a car is, > without damaging the car ofcourse :) > > Andre

Duct Tape. KFG