GT3 beats WSC to the punch!

GT3 will support multiple displays. Now you'll be able to watch the crappy AI boot you off the road from multipile monitors! http://www.dailyradar.com/features/game_feature_page_2663_1.html But while that's been known for some time now, the really interesting part doesn't concern multiplayer at all. Using the FireWire connections, players will be able to link multiple PS2s for rendering multiple viewpoints -- which means that truly hardcore home racers could, theoretically immerse themselves in a stunningly realistic realtime cockpit, a la F355! We don't expect too many people will take advantage of this feature, but it's certainly interesting, and shows off quite nicely the wide potential of next-gen systems.

>"Anonymous" <[email hidden]> wrote > GT3 will support multiple displays. Now you'll be able to watch thecrappy > AI boot you off the road from multipile monitors! Who's interested about a punched up arcade-game with more jaggies then NASCAR Road Racing by EA Sports? -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 22:10:59 -0400, "Anonymous" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>GT3 will support multiple displays. Now you'll be able to watch the crappy >AI boot you off the road from multipile monitors! > >http://www.dailyradar.com/features/game_feature_page_2663_1.html > >But while that's been known for some time now, the really interesting part >doesn't concern multiplayer at all. Using the FireWire connections, players >will be able to link multiple PS2s for rendering multiple viewpoints -- >which means that truly hardcore home racers could, theoretically immerse >themselves in a stunningly realistic realtime cockpit, a la F355! We don't >expect too many people will take advantage of this feature, but it's >certainly interesting, and shows off quite nicely the wide potential of >next-gen systems. >

Where's the dashboard?

On Tue, 24 Apr 2001 22:10:59 -0400, "Anonymous"

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>GT3 will support multiple displays. Now you'll be able to watch the crappy >AI boot you off the road from multipile monitors! >http://www.dailyradar.com/features/game_feature_page_2663_1.html >But while that's been known for some time now, the really interesting part >doesn't concern multiplayer at all. Using the FireWire connections, players >will be able to link multiple PS2s for rendering multiple viewpoints -- >which means that truly *** home racers could, theoretically immerse >themselves in a stunningly realistic realtime***pit, a la F355! We don't >expect too many people will take advantage of this feature, but it's >certainly interesting, and shows off quite nicely the wide potential of >next-gen systems.

Where's the dashboard?

Oh, you didn't hear, you need two PS2s connected together to render the daskboard, something about texture memory, hahahhaahhahha LOL !!!!!!!!!!! I will say that GT3 looks pretty dialed though.. I await WSC ! > >Where's the dashboard?

As has been done for GPL (using multiple, networked machines), a game now 3 years old? Why do you contrast this title with WSC anyway? -None of the Gran Tourismo games has ever been released on the PC and neither will GT3 AFAIK. Jan./"hardcore home racers"... lol, good job they didn't say simracers. =--- Anonymous wrote... > GT3 will support multiple displays.<snip>

On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 11:46:46 +0200, "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>As has been done for GPL (using multiple, networked machines), a game now 3 >years old? > >Why do you contrast this title with WSC anyway? -None of the Gran Tourismo >games has ever been released on the PC and neither will GT3 AFAIK. > >Jan./"hardcore home racers"... lol, good job they didn't say simracers. >=--- >Anonymous wrote... >> GT3 will support multiple displays.<snip> >

hi, isn't there room in the world for people who love both hard core sims and fun racing games? gpl offers satisfaction, realism and a challenge that gt2 can only dream of. gt2 offers instant gratification, tons of cars and a helluva lot of fun. i like them both. especially when i play gt2 on my pc using psxe and a psx joypad. the graphics are excellent when you use your 3d card to improve the resolution. obviously the quality of the textures is crappy & you still get terrible popup, but it is way better than on a real psx. that said, i haven't been playing anything but gpl and gp3 in a longggg time now. I don't think less of people who play gt2 compared to the people who play gpl just because gpl is harder. what would be the point? everybody's different. not so long ago, i did not have more than half an hour every few days to spend playing games. gt2 was excellent to keep my gaming withdrawal systems in check. just my opinion. i appear to be in the minority, but what the heck :) maybe when I have a gplrank < 100, it might have more weight. regards, ian

lol GT3 doesn't have cockpit view, just bumper and a guardian angel view only. And, Max AI cars number is just 6 (maybe 5). To make matters worse, the AI is not AI really. It's running blindness, cannot identify other cars. So, they're crashing every time like "Destruction Derby". hehe Y.Minami from Japan. l "Anonymous" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:DqqF6.1821$[email hidden]... > GT3 will support multiple displays. Now you'll be able to watch thecrappy > AI boot you off the road from multipile monitors! > > http://www.dailyradar.com/features/game_feature_page_2663_1.html > > But while that's been known for some time now, the really interesting part > doesn't concern multiplayer at all. Using the FireWire connections,players

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> will be able to link multiple PS2s for rendering multiple viewpoints -- > which means that truly hardcore home racers could, theoretically immerse > themselves in a stunningly realistic realtime cockpit, a la F355! We don't > expect too many people will take advantage of this feature, but it's > certainly interesting, and shows off quite nicely the wide potential of > next-gen systems. > >

<istoff> wrote... > <snip> > hi, > > isn't there room in the world for people who love both > hard core sims and fun racing games? Sure there is, I do myself as a matter of fact. This anoymous poster just struck a nerve and I lashed out. One of my not so good character traits. > gpl offers satisfaction, realism and a challenge that > gt2 can only dream of. You betcha. > gt2 offers instant gratification, tons of cars and a > helluva lot of fun. i like them both. Can't say I agree. To me the challenge arises more from the game structure than from the actual driving itself, which I find mildly tedious and frustrating (same with 1nsane, for example). > especially when i play gt2 on my pc using psxe and a psx joypad. By an emulator and a game to turn my PC into a gloryfied Playstation? -No thanks, if it's not worth converting it's not worth playing. > the graphics are excellent when you use your 3d card to > improve the resolution. obviously the quality of the > textures is crappy & you still get terrible popup, but it > is way better than on a real psx. I'll take your word for it. > that said, i haven't been playing anything but gpl and > gp3 in a longggg time now. Attaboy! > I don't think less of people who play gt2 compared to > the people who play gpl just because gpl is harder. I don't judge people on those criteria either. I do use a fairly narrow definition for the term "simracer" and "racing sim" though. > what would be the point? everybody's different. > not so long ago, i did not have more than half > an hour every few days to spend playing games. > gt2 was excellent to keep my gaming withdrawal > systems in check. I use DOOM when faced with a similar dilemma. ;-) > just my opinion. i appear to be in the minority, > but what the heck :) Wouldn't say that, but black and white opinions do make for more interesting flames. ;-) > maybe when I have a gplrank < 100, it might have more weight. No, everyone's experience is valid, regardless of "objective" speed. Jan. =---

On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 05:33:53 GMT, (Rich#8) wrote: >Oh, you didn't hear, you need two PS2s connected together to render >the daskboard, something about texture memory, hahahhaahhahha LOL >!!!!!!!!!!! That explains it. I'll put the dashboard on an HDTV and on top of that I will put another HDTV for the windshield. I'll need another 3 HDTV's for the side and rear views though. I think I can just afford it. :-)

"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > As has been done for GPL (using multiple, networked machines), a game now3 > years old? > How do you do this in GPL? I've never seen it done.

"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> <istoff> wrote... > > <snip> > > hi, > > > > isn't there room in the world for people who love both > > hard core sims and fun racing games? > > Sure there is, I do myself as a matter of fact. This anoymous poster just > struck a nerve and I lashed out. One of my not so good character traits.

I always get a kick out of comments such as "this anonymous poster". How is anyone to know that "Jan Verschueren" is anything but an alias? Unless I can see, feel, and hear you then you're just as anonymous as any other visitior to this forum.

BUDDY! What happened to you and Julie at the end of "Montezuma's Ferrari"? Will there be a sequel? And WHO the heck is Sammy Speed? Ninth at Indy in '51 would be Tony Bettenhausen, in '52 it was Cliff Griffith, Bettenhausen again in '53, and in '54 it was Larry Crockett. Also, sorry to hear about your dad an Julie's mom . . . :-� ;-) -- JB P.S. Tell Tater I said "hey!" <G> On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 09:18:29 -0400, "Buddy Palumbo" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> <istoff> wrote... >> > <snip> >> > hi, >> > >> > isn't there room in the world for people who love both >> > hard core sims and fun racing games? >> >> Sure there is, I do myself as a matter of fact. This anoymous poster just >> struck a nerve and I lashed out. One of my not so good character traits. > >I always get a kick out of comments such as "this anonymous poster". How is >anyone to know that "Jan Verschueren" is anything but an alias? Unless I >can see, feel, and hear you then you're just as anonymous as any other >visitior to this forum. > >

Hold on there, I haven't received my copy of Montezuma's Ferrari yet. Don't give away any of the story. "John Bodin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> BUDDY! What happened to you and Julie at the end of "Montezuma's > Ferrari"? Will there be a sequel? And WHO the heck is Sammy Speed? > Ninth at Indy in '51 would be Tony Bettenhausen, in '52 it was Cliff > Griffith, Bettenhausen again in '53, and in '54 it was Larry Crockett. > > > Also, sorry to hear about your dad an Julie's mom . . . > > :-� > > ;-) > > -- JB > > P.S. Tell Tater I said "hey!" <G> > > On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 09:18:29 -0400, "Buddy Palumbo" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:[email hidden]... > >> <istoff> wrote... > >> > <snip> > >> > hi, > >> > > >> > isn't there room in the world for people who love both > >> > hard core sims and fun racing games? > >> > >> Sure there is, I do myself as a matter of fact. This anoymous poster

just > >> struck a nerve and I lashed out. One of my not so good charactertraits. > > > >I always get a kick out of comments such as "this anonymous poster". Howis > >anyone to know that "Jan Verschueren" is anything but an alias? Unless I > >can see, feel, and hear you then you're just as anonymous as any other > >visitior to this forum. > > > > >

Simple, you network 3 PC's and host a lan race on the one which is going to have the forward view... then you connect to it on the other machines, making sure you have swapped the relevant side view for the default driving view (in some ini file somewhere, don't know the details either). The "side view" computers are set up to show full screen "replay" (actually they're following the action "live") of you driving and voila... virtual cockpit a la GPL. Jan. =--- Anonymous wrote... > <snip> > How do you do this in GPL? I've never seen it done. > >

Don't worry Buddy -- no spoilers there (just some stuff to get you thinking!). Drop me a line after you get through it, and then we can start campaigning jointly for a Carrera Panamericana sim! ;-) TTYL! -- JB On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 12:11:51 -0400, "Buddy Palumbo" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Hold on there, I haven't received my copy of Montezuma's Ferrari yet. Don't >give away any of the story. > >"John Bodin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> BUDDY! What happened to you and Julie at the end of "Montezuma's >> Ferrari"? Will there be a sequel? And WHO the heck is Sammy Speed? >> Ninth at Indy in '51 would be Tony Bettenhausen, in '52 it was Cliff >> Griffith, Bettenhausen again in '53, and in '54 it was Larry Crockett. >> >> >> Also, sorry to hear about your dad an Julie's mom . . . >> >> :-� >> >> ;-) >> >> -- JB >> >> P.S. Tell Tater I said "hey!" <G> >> >> On Wed, 25 Apr 2001 09:18:29 -0400, "Buddy Palumbo" >> <[email hidden]> wrote: >> >> >"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> >news:[email hidden]... >> >> <istoff> wrote... >> >> > <snip> >> >> > hi, >> >> > >> >> > isn't there room in the world for people who love both >> >> > hard core sims and fun racing games? >> >> >> >> Sure there is, I do myself as a matter of fact. This anoymous poster >just >> >> struck a nerve and I lashed out. One of my not so good character >traits. >> > >> >I always get a kick out of comments such as "this anonymous poster". How >is >> >anyone to know that "Jan Verschueren" is anything but an alias? Unless I >> >can see, feel, and hear you then you're just as anonymous as any other >> >visitior to this forum. >> > >> > >> > >

Well Buddy, 'cos it's my name. Because my e-mail address (without spamblock) is valid. Because I sign every post with my name. Because I can be found if someone wants to take issue with what I write. There is always a barrier between me and the medium, that's for sure, but there's a lot of "me" in my postings. I think most regulars have a pretty good idea of what I'm like eventhough most of us have never met. Jan. =--- Buddy Palumbo wrote... > <snip> > I always get a kick out of comments such as "this anonymous > poster". How is anyone to know that "Jan Verschueren" is > anything but an alias? Unless I can see, feel, and hear you > then you're just as anonymous as any other visitior to this > forum.

François, where's your famous Dolby Surrond Troll-O-meter? ymenard wrote:

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> > >"Anonymous" <[email hidden]> wrote > > GT3 will support multiple displays. Now you'll be able to watch the > crappy > > AI boot you off the road from multipile monitors! > > Who's interested about a punched up arcade-game with more jaggies then > NASCAR Road Racing by EA Sports? > > -- > -- François Ménard <ymenard> > -- May the Downforce be with you... > -- http://www.ymenard.com/ > -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez > Corporation - helping America into the New World...

-- Philippe "Philster" Sergerie

"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Well Buddy, 'cos it's my name. Because my e-mail address (withoutspamblock) > is valid. Because I sign every post with my name. Because I can be foundif

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> someone wants to take issue with what I write. > > There is always a barrier between me and the medium, that's for sure, but > there's a lot of "me" in my postings. I think most regulars have a pretty > good idea of what I'm like eventhough most of us have never met. > > Jan.

But your identity is not built upon the name or email address you post under, but the content of your posts. So as long as someone uses the same name/address when they post, then they will establish an identity with that name/address. Whether the name is 'Jan' or 'Anonymous' it's still possible to construct an identity.

"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Simple, you network 3 PC's and host a lan race on the one which is goingto > have the forward view... then you connect to it on the other machines, > making sure you have swapped the relevant side view for the defaultdriving > view (in some ini file somewhere, don't know the details either). The"side > view" computers are set up to show full screen "replay" (actually they're > following the action "live") of you driving and voila... virtual cockpit a > la GPL. > > Jan. > =--- Well that sounds much easier than connecting three PS2's together via firewire. :-)

"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Why do you contrast this title with WSC anyway? -None of the Gran Tourismo > games has ever been released on the PC and neither will GT3 AFAIK. But WSC will be released on the PS2, so the comparison is valid!

>"Philster" <[email hidden]> wrote >Fran�ois, where's your famous Dolby Surrond Troll-O-meter? It's a Stereo Troll-O-meter at the moment, but perhaps I might program one for Surround, or DD5.1 ;-) -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

>"John Bodin" <[email hidden]> wrote > Drop me a line after you get through it, and then we can start > campaigning jointly for a Carrera Panamericana sim! mmmmm.... Any Pink Floyd fans admires that race :) -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

>"Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote > Well Buddy, 'cos it's my name. Because my e-mail address (withoutspamblock) > is valid. Because I sign every post with my name. Because I can be foundif > someone wants to take issue with what I write. pffftt, didn't you tell us last month your name is actually Cletus Billy Bubba Joe? :) -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Didn't know that... sorry. So GT3 has been released and has an option to connect multiple PS2's to render more views so as to create a Ferrari 355 Challenge style cockpit, whereas WSC has not been released yet and therefore will not be the first to carry this feature if at all. Noted. Jan. =--- Buddy Palumbo wrote... > <snip> > But WSC will be released on the PS2, so the comparison is valid! > >

Hush you fool... nobody's supposed to know that!! Jan. ;-)) =--- ymenard wrote... > > <snip> > > pffftt, didn't you tell us last month your name > is actually Cletus Billy Bubba Joe? :)