Converted tracks for N3 crashing, a workaround

Hey all, After having crash-to-desktop experiences in N3 at both the GPL converted Kyalami and at Spa, I decided to try some detective work & find out why. At Kyalami, it would boot me out right at the turn-in to Sunset Bend. First I tried turning down the sound acceleration in DXDiag, all the way down. No difference. Then I went into N3's video options & turned off all available options. Going back out on the track I now found it would go slightly further before booting me. Now I could exit Sunset Bend before it croaked. Thinking it may be choking on trying to draw-in, I refired N3 & this time I left the pits & circled backwards-against the advice of my spotter who was nagging something about not having any more sponsors next week if I keep this up. Anyway, just as I leave Leeukop Bend & halfway to the Esses, it boots me out again. OK... I'm on to something here. Back in, I go to video options & kill the D3D & go software mode. Restart N3 & back on the track... DAMN is that ugly!!! Reminds me of ICR2 at Cleveland in lo-res mode. But you know what? No more crashing to desktop. Spa was basically the same way as Frank described it. I could sit in my pit stall all day long & it was fine. Try to pull out of my pit & BANG. So I dropped down to practice mode & all was great until I hit La Source, then I got booted again. Once I tried it in software mode, all problems have disappeared. Run with a full field of AI & all, no problems. So it seems as a workaround, if you feel you *really must* run these tracks, you can... if your eyes don't start bleeding on you in software mode. Now I wonder... is this a vidcard memory issue? Or a D3D issue? I've got a 32MB GF2, does anyone with a 64MB card have these same problems? Might this be a GF problem? How are our friends with Voodoo cards doing at these tracks? My system specs: 850 PIII @ 910 128MB PC133 RAM Elsa 32MB GF2 GTS SoundBlaster Live! -- Fester

I�m using a Voodoo 5 with 128MB and have the same problem with D3D: Games crashes for the first time when I want to leave the pits. After starting N3 again I can leave the pits and run nearly a complete lap - game crashes again at LaSource. The track works fine for me using the software-mode, so I think it is a D3D-issue. -- Have several nice days !!! Michael Heymanns IWSC Champion 2000 IPSC GT-Champion 2000 TPTCC Champion 1999/2000 www.srg-group.de www.teamsrg.de www.tptcc.de 1&1 Profiseller www.profiseller.de/shop/P1672791 "Uncle Fester" <[email hidden]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:[email hidden]... > > Hey all, > > After having crash-to-desktop experiences in N3 at both the GPL > converted Kyalami and at Spa, I decided to try some detective work & > find out why. At Kyalami, it would boot me out right at the turn-in to > Sunset Bend. First I tried turning down the sound acceleration in > DXDiag, all the way down. No difference. Then I went into N3's video > options & turned off all available options. Going back out on the track > I now found it would go slightly further before booting me. Now I could > exit Sunset Bend before it croaked. Thinking it may be choking on > trying to draw-in, I refired N3 & this time I left the pits & circled > backwards-against the advice of my spotter who was nagging something > about not having any more sponsors next week if I keep this up. Anyway, > just as I leave Leeukop Bend & halfway to the Esses, it boots me out > again. OK... I'm on to something here. Back in, I go to video options > & kill the D3D & go software mode. Restart N3 & back on the track... > DAMN is that ugly!!! Reminds me of ICR2 at Cleveland in lo-res mode. > But you know what? No more crashing to desktop. > > Spa was basically the same way as Frank described it. I could sit in my > pit stall all day long & it was fine. Try to pull out of my pit & > BANG. So I dropped down to practice mode & all was great until I hit La > Source, then I got booted again. Once I tried it in software mode, all > problems have disappeared. Run with a full field of AI & all, no > problems. > > So it seems as a workaround, if you feel you *really must* run these > tracks, you can... if your eyes don't start bleeding on you in software > mode. Now I wonder... is this a vidcard memory issue? Or a D3D issue? > I've got a 32MB GF2, does anyone with a 64MB card have these same > problems? Might this be a GF problem? How are our friends with Voodoo > cards doing at these tracks? My system specs: > > 850 PIII @ 910 > 128MB PC133 RAM > Elsa 32MB GF2 GTS > SoundBlaster Live! > > -- > > Fester

Exactly the same here. Thinking of putting my Voodoo 3 3000 back in to check things out. Athlon 950 Hercules G2 GTS pro SB live value FIC AZ11e MB 256 meg buzard "Uncle Fester" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > Hey all, > > After having crash-to-desktop experiences in N3 at both the GPL > converted Kyalami and at Spa, I decided to try some detective work & > find out why. At Kyalami, it would boot me out right at the turn-in to > Sunset Bend. First I tried turning down the sound acceleration in > DXDiag, all the way down. No difference. Then I went into N3's video > options & turned off all available options. Going back out on the track > I now found it would go slightly further before booting me. Now I could > exit Sunset Bend before it croaked. Thinking it may be choking on > trying to draw-in, I refired N3 & this time I left the pits & circled > backwards-against the advice of my spotter who was nagging something > about not having any more sponsors next week if I keep this up. Anyway, > just as I leave Leeukop Bend & halfway to the Esses, it boots me out > again. OK... I'm on to something here. Back in, I go to video options > & kill the D3D & go software mode. Restart N3 & back on the track... > DAMN is that ugly!!! Reminds me of ICR2 at Cleveland in lo-res mode. > But you know what? No more crashing to desktop. > > Spa was basically the same way as Frank described it. I could sit in my > pit stall all day long & it was fine. Try to pull out of my pit & > BANG. So I dropped down to practice mode & all was great until I hit La > Source, then I got booted again. Once I tried it in software mode, all > problems have disappeared. Run with a full field of AI & all, no > problems. > > So it seems as a workaround, if you feel you *really must* run these > tracks, you can... if your eyes don't start bleeding on you in software > mode. Now I wonder... is this a vidcard memory issue? Or a D3D issue? > I've got a 32MB GF2, does anyone with a 64MB card have these same > problems? Might this be a GF problem? How are our friends with Voodoo > cards doing at these tracks? My system specs: > > 850 PIII @ 910 > 128MB PC133 RAM > Elsa 32MB GF2 GTS > SoundBlaster Live! > > -- > > Fester

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>"Uncle Fester" <[email hidden]> wrote > Spa was basically the same way as Frank described it. I could sit in my > pit stall all day long & it was fine. Try to pull out of my pit & > BANG. So I dropped down to practice mode & all was great until I hit La > Source, then I got booted again. Once I tried it in software mode, all > problems have disappeared. Run with a full field of AI & all, no > problems.

Interesting. You should had seen me in the pits at Spa, trying to spin around on myself and hope that angle lets me go out more then 1 feet. Tried to go backwards also :) I had tested other tracks without any graphics, but not in software mode. I use Glide, so it's not just a D3D issue. Voodoo3 3000 AGP here. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...