KT7A-RAID and LWFF

Anyone had trouble with this combination? As soon as I install the WingMan s/w (V3.30 - the latest V3.62 doesn't seem to install) and Windows tries to find the device after re-boot, it hangs. I've tried the USB cable and serial, it even hangs with neither of them connected. USB scanner is OK and the Serial port works with my modem. The LWFF was fine before my motherboard upgrade. Weird. Tony Whitley

I had this problem with the 3:30s on the KT7 Raid and had to install their speed patch from the wingmanteam site. The 3.6xs installed fine and include this patch. I'm using WinME BTW. What's your CPU speed? This was a known problem with all CPUs over 1GHz and 3.30s. I can email the speed patch to you if you want............. Darren -- --------------------------------------------------------- TopGear Offline GP3 League http://topgear.dhs.org/cgi-bin/main/ In line with the F1 Calendar --------------------------------------------------------- "Tony Whitley" <[email hidden]. c o . u k> wrote in message news:9cbvfi$s2g$[email hidden]... : Anyone had trouble with this combination? As soon as I install the WingMan : s/w (V3.30 - the latest V3.62 doesn't seem to install) and Windows tries to : find the device after re-boot, it hangs. I've tried the USB cable and : serial, it even hangs with neither of them connected. USB scanner is OK and : the Serial port works with my modem. The LWFF was fine before my motherboard : upgrade. : : Weird. : Tony Whitley : :

I had the same problem too running a KT7 with a duron at 1ghz. Get the new drivers. I actually had to go into safe mode because the loading of the logitech software totally shut down my computer. Brian Bowles "Tony Whitley" <[email hidden]. c o . u k> wrote in message news:9cbvfi$s2g$[email hidden]... > Anyone had trouble with this combination? As soon as I install the WingMan > s/w (V3.30 - the latest V3.62 doesn't seem to install) and Windows triesto > find the device after re-boot, it hangs. I've tried the USB cable and > serial, it even hangs with neither of them connected. USB scanner is OKand > the Serial port works with my modem. The LWFF was fine before mymotherboard > upgrade. > > Weird. > Tony Whitley > >

I had to MANUALLY unzip and install the 3.62 drivers. Did you first try downloading the NEW windows installer program that is used for the 3.62 drivers? Even with that, I would get a lockup and the new installer wouldn't finish updating the drivers. But what I did...from memory ...this "MAY" be somewhat shakey... right click on the 3.62 drivers file. I think I chose an unzip option rather than install. once I had the drivers unzipped into a temp folder I updated the drivers with the Device Manager inside the System Control Panel. Using the update drivers, I pointed to the folder where the files were unzipped and the new drivers then were updated. No problems since with a 1.1ghz Athlon and the LWFF dave henrie "Tony Whitley" <[email hidden]. c o . u k> wrote in message news:9cbvfi$s2g$[email hidden]... > Anyone had trouble with this combination? As soon as I install the WingMan > s/w (V3.30 - the latest V3.62 doesn't seem to install) and Windows triesto > find the device after re-boot, it hangs. I've tried the USB cable and > serial, it even hangs with neither of them connected. USB scanner is OKand > the Serial port works with my modem. The LWFF was fine before mymotherboard > upgrade. > > Weird. > Tony Whitley > >

"Darren Duncan" <dags@(nospam)ky.xaxon.ne.jp> wrote ... > I had this problem with the 3:30s on the KT7 Raid and had to install their > speed patch from the wingmanteam site. The 3.6xs installed fine andinclude > this patch. I'm using WinME BTW. What's your CPU speed? This was a known > problem with all CPUs over 1GHz and 3.30s.I have Win98 SE and a 1G Thunderbird currently overclocked to 1.3GHz . The only patch I can find on the wingmanteam site is for 3.50, 3.60b and 3.62. V3.62 gets as far as "Preparing to install" and then closes down. I did have it working briefly by following the advice in the readme (yes, I know...) - my ISA SoundBlaster16 failed to install so there was no gameport, forcibly installing a gameport did the trick. I've since got the SB16 to work and the LWFF crashed. Now the soundcard won't work and I'm back to square one with the LWFF. Maybe it's time to upgrade my soundcard too. > I can email the speed patch to you if you want.............I don't think it applies to my problem. If it does then yes please.

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> Darren > -- > --------------------------------------------------------- > TopGear Offline GP3 League > http://topgear.dhs.org/cgi-bin/main/ > In line with the F1 Calendar > --------------------------------------------------------- >

Thanks for the help, -- Tony Whitley GPLRank +7.83 "On some laps I'd get as many as fifteen corners really right, but Moss, he gets them all right on every lap" - Von Trips after the 1961 German Grand Prix.

"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote ... > I had to MANUALLY unzip and install the 3.62 drivers. Did you first try > downloading > the NEW windows installer program that is used for the 3.62 drivers?Yes. I've had that for some time but I re-installed it anyway after re-installing Win98 when I first had problems. > Even > with that, I would get a lockup and the new installer wouldn't finish > updating the drivers.Same here. > But what I did...from memory ...this "MAY" be somewhat shakey... > right click on the 3.62 drivers file. I think I chose an unzip option > rather than install.I tried that too :-( > once I had the drivers unzipped into a temp folder I updated the drivers > with the Device Manager inside the System Control Panel. Using the update > drivers, I pointed to the folder where the files were unzipped and the new > drivers then were updated. No problems since with a 1.1ghz Athlon and the > LWFF > dave henrieThanks to the WingManTeam site I've found out that there are other people with the same problems. It seems to be connected to fast machines - maybe I should go back to my C450! Anyway, thanks to everyone for their help, I'm off to flash the BIOS again, install a few more patches and probably buy a new HD so that I can start from scratch. -- Tony Whitley GPLRank +7.83 "On some laps I'd get as many as fifteen corners really right, but Moss, he gets them all right on every lap" - Von Trips after the 1961 German Grand Prix.

"Tony Whitley" <[email hidden]. c o . u k> wrote ... > "Darren Duncan" <dags@(nospam)ky.xaxon.ne.jp> wrote ... > > I had this problem with the 3:30s on the KT7 Raid and had to installtheir

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> > speed patch from the wingmanteam site. The 3.6xs installed fine and > include > > this patch. I'm using WinME BTW. What's your CPU speed? This was a known > > problem with all CPUs over 1GHz and 3.30s. > I have Win98 SE and a 1G Thunderbird currently overclocked to 1.3GHz . The > only patch I can find on the wingmanteam site is for 3.50, 3.60b and 3.62. > V3.62 gets as far as "Preparing to install" and then closes down. > > I did have it working briefly by following the advice in the readme (yes,

I > know...) - my ISA SoundBlaster16 failed to install so there was nogameport, > forcibly installing a gameport did the trick. I've since got the SB16 to > work and the LWFF crashed. Now the soundcard won't work and I'm back to > square one with the LWFF. Maybe it's time to upgrade my soundcard too. > > > I can email the speed patch to you if you want............. > I don't think it applies to my problem. If it does then yes please.I found the patch and tried installing V3.25C off the CD and then patching it. No joy. I slowed my PC down to 900MHz. No joy. I think I have enough (too much!) information now, thanks. I'll report back if I get it working. Why did I think that putting a new motherboard would be straightforward this time? It never has been in the past. -- Tony Whitley GPLRank +7.83 "On some laps I'd get as many as fifteen corners really right, but Moss, he gets them all right on every lap" - Von Trips after the 1961 German Grand Prix.

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> > > "Darren Duncan" <dags@(nospam)ky.xaxon.ne.jp> wrote ... > > > I had this problem with the 3:30s on the KT7 Raid and had to install > their > > > speed patch from the wingmanteam site. The 3.6xs installed fine and > > include > > > this patch. I'm using WinME BTW. What's your CPU speed? This was a

known > > > problem with all CPUs over 1GHz and 3.30s. > I found the patch and tried installing V3.25C off the CD and then patching > it. No joy. I slowed my PC down to 900MHz. No joy. > > I think I have enough (too much!) information now, thanks. I'll reportback > if I get it working. Why did I think that putting a new motherboard wouldbe > straightforward this time? It never has been in the past. > I'm not quite sure what did it - I went back to Logitech Profiler V3.25C with the LWFF connected via the serial port and installed my SB16 but disabled them all in Device Manager. I then re-booted and re-enabled the sound card. I re-booted again to make sure then enabled the "fake" gameport and the LWFF. Still OK. Re-booted with the LWFF in the USB port. All present and correct. I now installed Profiler V3.30 and tried to patch it but got a "ERROR: unable to read file!" message. This was all at 900 MHz so now I wound up the clock to 1.3 GHz (it's a 1GHz part) and tweaked the RAM. That seemed OK with GP3 but GPL crashed very quickly. Back down to 1.2 GHz and less aggressive RAM timing and it all seems stable. At last! All graphics options. All sounds. 19 opponents. Max resolution and 36 fps all the time, well except if starting from the back of the back of the grid. GP3 with less than 100% PO. Finally my hardware has caught up with the software. Of course, now I have a "new" GPL to learn - 19 opponents and all that sound make things even more difficult than they were before... -- Tony Whitley GPLRank +7.83 "On some laps I'd get as many as fifteen corners really right, but Moss, he gets them all right on every lap" - Von Trips after the 1961 German Grand Prix. P.S. I still can't install V3.62 but I don't care right at this moment :-)