GPL - car choice

Okay, so I'm making some (newbie) assumptions here and I'd like some feedback, if I may. I think it's fair to say that, with the right setup, the Lotus is the quickest, but most car challenging (i.e. difficult) to drive? The Ferrari as the best 'all-rounder' (quoting Alison Hine)? The Eagle seems to me to be the most predictable of the quick three (with the Ferrari and Lotus)? The Cooper and Honda are slower cars but are more user-friendly and therefore popular learner cars? The Brabham I have not tried yet to any great extent and therefore can't comment; they seem very rare VROC attendees though? The BRM is an unpopular first choice but appears to be (again with the right setup) somewhat of a dark horse? Now I know that any of the GPL cars can be quick, so please don't shoot me down for 'dissing' your campaigning choice. But I would like to know if I'm wide of the mark or not. By the way, I seem to have been swayed by the Eagle since my regular racing two months ago, but I'm considering giving the Ferrari some time. Thoughts, please. -- Jonesy Remove "ANTISPAM" when replying.

People often have favourite car and may go out in that 'cos they like it. They may be in a "Chuckable" mood ( Ferrari , Cooper ) , they may be in a "Fastest car for the track mood" ( Eagle loves Spa , Lotus just about anywhere else ! ) Your assessment is pretty close to the mark , but everyone has their own take on it. If I'm drunk , I need the Red Slug , or I'm going to be examining the bushes ! You may find people out in a BRM ( Black Pig ) because they're too good for the rest of the field , or they want to improve their Monsters of GPLRank , or they know they don't know the course and want an excuse ! Only a masochist would try the Brabham - way too much torque for me ... My twopenneth Fastest Lotus Brabham Eagle Ferrari Honda Cooper BRM Slowest Hardest Brabham Lotus Honda / BRM Eagle Ferrari Cooper Most Forgiving Craig Jones <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:c_gG6.5195$[email hidden]...

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> Okay, so I'm making some (newbie) assumptions here and I'd like some > feedback, if I may. > > I think it's fair to say that, with the right setup, the Lotus is the > quickest, but most car challenging (i.e. difficult) to drive? > The Ferrari as the best 'all-rounder' (quoting Alison Hine)? > The Eagle seems to me to be the most predictable of the quick three (with > the Ferrari and Lotus)? > The Cooper and Honda are slower cars but are more user-friendly and > therefore popular learner cars? > The Brabham I have not tried yet to any great extent and therefore can't > comment; they seem very rare VROC attendees though? > The BRM is an unpopular first choice but appears to be (again with the

right > setup) somewhat of a dark horse? > > Now I know that any of the GPL cars can be quick, so please don't shoot me > down for 'dissing' your campaigning choice. But I would like to know ifI'm > wide of the mark or not. > > By the way, I seem to have been swayed by the Eagle since my regularracing

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> two months ago, but I'm considering giving the Ferrari some time. > > Thoughts, please. > > > -- > Jonesy > > Remove "ANTISPAM" when replying. > >

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> People often have favourite car and may go out in that 'cos they like it. > They may be in a "Chuckable" mood ( Ferrari , Cooper ) , they may be in a > "Fastest car for the track mood" ( Eagle loves Spa , Lotus just about > anywhere else ! ) > Your assessment is pretty close to the mark , but everyone has their own > take on it. If I'm drunk , I need the Red Slug , or I'm going to be > examining the bushes ! You may find people out in a BRM ( Black Pig ) > because they're too good for the rest of the field , or they want to

improve > their Monsters of GPLRank , or they know they don't know the course andwant > an excuse ! Only a masochist would try the Brabham - way too much torquefor

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> me ... > > My twopenneth > > Fastest > Lotus > Brabham > Eagle > Ferrari > Honda > Cooper > BRM > Slowest > > > Hardest > Brabham > Lotus > Honda / BRM > Eagle > Ferrari > Cooper > Most Forgiving > > > > Craig Jones <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:c_gG6.5195$[email hidden]... > > Okay, so I'm making some (newbie) assumptions here and I'd like some > > feedback, if I may. > > > > I think it's fair to say that, with the right setup, the Lotus is the > > quickest, but most car challenging (i.e. difficult) to drive? > > The Ferrari as the best 'all-rounder' (quoting Alison Hine)? > > The Eagle seems to me to be the most predictable of the quick three

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> > the Ferrari and Lotus)? > > The Cooper and Honda are slower cars but are more user-friendly and > > therefore popular learner cars? > > The Brabham I have not tried yet to any great extent and therefore can't > > comment; they seem very rare VROC attendees though? > > The BRM is an unpopular first choice but appears to be (again with the > right > > setup) somewhat of a dark horse? > > > > Now I know that any of the GPL cars can be quick, so please don't shoot

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> > down for 'dissing' your campaigning choice. But I would like to know if > I'm > > wide of the mark or not. > > > > By the way, I seem to have been swayed by the Eagle since my regular > racing > > two months ago, but I'm considering giving the Ferrari some time. > > > > Thoughts, please. > > > > > > -- > > Jonesy > > > > Remove "ANTISPAM" when replying. > > > > > >

BTU Again Craig, Not Bad Newbie.... Not bad at all with your observations! It is true tho'.. We all have our favorite chassis or chassis-z[plural]!! Now on the Honda being slow! Woo Don't tell my buddy Tim Wheatley this haha Try racing against him in his Honda..Yikes! Also try his setups they are fantastic!! Mostly just have fun cuz this is what I do!! Cheers Thom_j. "Craig Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:c_gG6.5195$[email hidden]...

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| Okay, so I'm making some (newbie) assumptions here and I'd like some | feedback, if I may. | | I think it's fair to say that, with the right setup, the Lotus is the | quickest, but most car challenging (i.e. difficult) to drive? | The Ferrari as the best 'all-rounder' (quoting Alison Hine)? | The Eagle seems to me to be the most predictable of the quick three (with | the Ferrari and Lotus)? | The Cooper and Honda are slower cars but are more user-friendly and | therefore popular learner cars? | The Brabham I have not tried yet to any great extent and therefore can't | comment; they seem very rare VROC attendees though? | The BRM is an unpopular first choice but appears to be (again with the

right | setup) somewhat of a dark horse? | | Now I know that any of the GPL cars can be quick, so please don't shoot me | down for 'dissing' your campaigning choice. But I would like to know ifI'm | wide of the mark or not. | | By the way, I seem to have been swayed by the Eagle since my regularracing

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| two months ago, but I'm considering giving the Ferrari some time. | | Thoughts, please. | | | -- | Jonesy | | Remove "ANTISPAM" when replying. | |

I would say your fastest list needs adjusting... The brabham probably deserves to go behind the Ferrari... Lotus Eagle Ferrari Brabham Honda Cooper BRM Of course this list changes a lot based on track...but the ferrari tends to be faster than the brabham at a lot of tracks. JB

I like the Eagle the best but i find around some of the tighter tracks it feels like driving a bus (Zanvoort) and tracks like that. I'm not in love with the Ferrari but it sounds so good i drive it anyways and the Brabham seems to me to be down on horsepower alot, the Lotus is beautiful but don't over rev it. Steve! "Craig Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:c_gG6.5195$[email hidden]...

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> Okay, so I'm making some (newbie) assumptions here and I'd like some > feedback, if I may. > > I think it's fair to say that, with the right setup, the Lotus is the > quickest, but most car challenging (i.e. difficult) to drive? > The Ferrari as the best 'all-rounder' (quoting Alison Hine)? > The Eagle seems to me to be the most predictable of the quick three (with > the Ferrari and Lotus)? > The Cooper and Honda are slower cars but are more user-friendly and > therefore popular learner cars? > The Brabham I have not tried yet to any great extent and therefore can't > comment; they seem very rare VROC attendees though? > The BRM is an unpopular first choice but appears to be (again with the

right > setup) somewhat of a dark horse? > > Now I know that any of the GPL cars can be quick, so please don't shoot me > down for 'dissing' your campaigning choice. But I would like to know ifI'm > wide of the mark or not. > > By the way, I seem to have been swayed by the Eagle since my regularracing

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> two months ago, but I'm considering giving the Ferrari some time. > > Thoughts, please. > > > -- > Jonesy > > Remove "ANTISPAM" when replying. > >

john wrote: > Only a masochist would try the Brabham - way too much torque for > me ... I was assigned the Brabham in John Simmons late, lamented IGPS3 series and actually grew to rather like the "Aussie Toad". I ended up setting many of my personal bests using the it. Other than Spa and Kyalami (Eagle), Monza and Silverstone (Lotus), and the Ring (Ferrari), my personal bests at the other six original tracks are in Brabham. Dave Ewing -- ***************************************************** David A. Ewing Xilinx Boulder [email hidden] *****************************************************

As for the Ferrari being the best 'all-rounder', I think what this means is that it doesn't have the reliability problems for races that the Eagle and Lotus have. Both the Eagle and Lotus are a bit quicker just about everywhere than the Ferrari. If you were going for a PB or running a novice race, then the Eagle would be a better bet than the Ferrari, on pure speed. I find the Eagle a very driveable car, but there's no doubt that the Cooper, BRM, Honda and Ferrari are all a little more forgiving. > "Craig Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote in messagenews:c_gG6.5195$[email hidden]...

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> Okay, so I'm making some (newbie) assumptions here and I'd like some > feedback, if I may. > > I think it's fair to say that, with the right setup, the Lotus is the > quickest, but most car challenging (i.e. difficult) to drive? > The Ferrari as the best 'all-rounder' (quoting Alison Hine)? > The Eagle seems to me to be the most predictable of the quick three (with > the Ferrari and Lotus)? > The Cooper and Honda are slower cars but are more user-friendly and > therefore popular learner cars? > The Brabham I have not tried yet to any great extent and therefore can't > comment; they seem very rare VROC attendees though? > The BRM is an unpopular first choice but appears to be (again with the

right > setup) somewhat of a dark horse? > > Now I know that any of the GPL cars can be quick, so please don't shoot me > down for 'dissing' your campaigning choice. But I would like to know ifI'm > wide of the mark or not. > > By the way, I seem to have been swayed by the Eagle since my regularracing

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> two months ago, but I'm considering giving the Ferrari some time. > > Thoughts, please. > > > -- > Jonesy > > Remove "ANTISPAM" when replying. > >

In article <2EiG6.176735$[email hidden]>, "john" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>Your assessment is pretty close to the mark , but everyone has their own >take on it. If I'm drunk , I need the Red Slug , or I'm going to be >examining the bushes ! You may find people out in a BRM ( Black Pig ) >because they're too good for the rest of the field , or they want to improve >their Monsters of GPLRank , or they know they don't know the course and want >an excuse ! Only a masochist would try the Brabham - way too much torque for >me ...

What does too much torque do for you? Funny you should say that - 3 of my PB's are with the Brabham: Kyalami, Silverstone, and Zandvoort. Then I also have 2 each with Lotus and Eagle, and the rest(4) with Ferrari). I'm not sure if that means I'm adaptable or not... :) Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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> > x-no-archive: yes > > Hmmm...I want to give the Lotus a go. > > I'm doing quite well in the Ferrari - got pole - but I'm fed up with the > Loti screaming past me at the start and/or harrying me into the first corner > at Kylami. > > Trouble is I can't find any setups for the Lotus, and I'm crap at setting up > the car. Can anyone point me at the "Alison Ferrari setup" of the Lotus > world?

Try http://www.legendscentral.com/lor Some track setups are for ferrari, some lotus, some both. Kev

Give the Eagle some time, it's very nearly as fast as the Lotus and way easier to drive. I still use the default setups with all cars (with reduced fuel load of course) since I know nothing about cars or setups. "Richard S Beckett" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9cjavb$[email hidden]... > x-no-archive: yes > > Hmmm...I want to give the Lotus a go. > > I'm doing quite well in the Ferrari - got pole - but I'm fed up with the > Loti screaming past me at the start and/or harrying me into the firstcorner > at Kylami. > > Trouble is I can't find any setups for the Lotus, and I'm crap at settingup > the car. Can anyone point me at the "Alison Ferrari setup" of the Lotus > world? > > Thanks.

"Richard S Beckett" <[email hidden]> skrev i meddelandet news:9cjavb$[email hidden]... > x-no-archive: yes > > Hmmm...I want to give the Lotus a go. > > I'm doing quite well in the Ferrari - got pole - but I'm fed up with the > Loti screaming past me at the start and/or harrying me into the firstcorner > at Kylami. > > Trouble is I can't find any setups for the Lotus, and I'm crap at settingup > the car. Can anyone point me at the "Alison Ferrari setup" of the Lotus > world? >Check again at http://alison.simracing.com/gpl/ Under "downloads" is something called the x-files containing her setups for virtually every chassis at every track. \�l GPLrank+16,3 "Prognosis Negative"

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> In article <2EiG6.176735$[email hidden]>, "john" > <[email hidden]> writes: > >>an excuse ! Only a masochist would try the Brabham - way too much torque for >>me ... > > What does too much torque do for you?

Well, I don't know what it does for you, or for Johnny, but for me, it causes my gearbox to lead the way out of the corners an awful lot more than I'd like.... ;-) Marc

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> x-no-archive: yes > > Hmmm...I want to give the Lotus a go. > > I'm doing quite well in the Ferrari - got pole - but I'm fed up with the > Loti screaming past me at the start and/or harrying me into the first corner > at Kylami.

You may just need to practice your starts. I know I do. But the front runners amongst both the AI and VROC crowd are pretty good at starts. Clark and Hill still leave me behind at the start no matter what I do, and even if I outqualified them significantly. I don't think it's because of the car I drive; I think it's me. Practice, practice, practice... Marc

>>>>> "John" == john <[email hidden]> writes: John> Only a masochist would try the Brabham - way too much John> torque for me ... Well slap some leather on me and... Errr, I mean, torque GOOOOOD. :) Okay, granted you have to lay low on the loud pedal (and/or get a set with a long travel). That aside I find I can throw the Brabham around better then the rest of the carset... Of course it sucks when your coming on to the back straight with a Lotus on your butt, it's lacking a bit of top end, but hey I made that choice in real life as well. (I drive an Integra Type-R, it's *GREAT* for throwing around on the solo track, but Vette's, RamAir's, and Stage 3 mustangs still take me in a straight line... Well, okay, the Vette's take take me in the corners too. :) -- Chris Bayly Email: [email hidden]

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>x-no-archive: yes > >Hmmm...I want to give the Lotus a go. > >I'm doing quite well in the Ferrari - got pole - but I'm fed up with the >Loti screaming past me at the start and/or harrying me into the first >corner at Kylami. > >Trouble is I can't find any setups for the Lotus, and I'm crap at >setting up the car. Can anyone point me at the "Alison Ferrari setup" of >the Lotus world? >

I know about three good sets of Lotus setups: Wolfgang Woeger's (I believe they are somewhere on Alison's site), Roland Ehnstrom's (you can download them from GPL hotlaps" at http://www.mycgiserver.com/~gplhotlaps/index.html) and Greger Huttu's (make sure you download first version of setups unless you're alien). They are different from each other, but all of them are fast. Try to find one you like more. And just to encourage you I am finding Lotus easier to drive than Ferrari or Eagle. Alex (alexti)

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Alex) writes: >And just to encourage you I am finding Lotus easier to drive than >Ferrari or Eagle. <cough>*bullshit*<cough>.... Sorry - who said that? :-) Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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>In article <[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] (EldredP) writes: >> In article <2EiG6.176735$[email hidden]>, "john" >> <[email hidden]> writes: >> >>>an excuse ! Only a masochist would try the Brabham - way too much torque >for >>>me ... >> >> What does too much torque do for you? > >Well, I don't know what it does for you, or for Johnny, but for me, >it causes my gearbox to lead the way out of the corners an awful lot >more than I'd like.... ;-) >

Hmm... I usually get that type of behavior from the Lotus - but you already KNOW that, right? :) Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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> In article <9ck9f6$ll5$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Marc > Fraioli) writes: >>> >>> What does too much torque do for you? >> >>Well, I don't know what it does for you, or for Johnny, but for me, >>it causes my gearbox to lead the way out of the corners an awful lot >>more than I'd like.... ;-) > > Hmm... I usually get that type of behavior from the Lotus - but you already > KNOW that, right? :)

Hehe, I suppose I do. :) I don't drive the Lotus enough to even really know what it's like in that regard, but I do know that the Brabham requires considerable restraint in the lower gears. BTW, your handicap in your sig is out of date. Don't sell yourself short, man. :) Marc

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>In article <[email hidden]>, >[email hidden] (Alex) writes: > >>And just to encourage you I am finding Lotus easier to drive than >>Ferrari or Eagle. > ><cough>*bullshit*<cough>.... >Sorry - who said that? :-) > >Eldred

Ok, I will try to explain why. I am not good at sliding the car around the corners, so I really need to have agile car to make any good times. Lotus allows to change direction very quicky. It also accelerates pretty well from the corners. Also I've found out that steering ratios 11:1 and 12:1 work pretty well with Lotus improving the rapidness of your input. With Ferrari or Eagle I always feel that the car takes too much time to react on my input and when it reacts I realize that now it's not what I want and trees are welcoming me. Alex (alexti)

In article <9cmtcv$bte$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Marc Fraioli) writes: >Hehe, I suppose I do. :) I don't drive the Lotus enough to even really >know what it's like in that regard, but I do know that the Brabham >requires considerable restraint in the lower gears. >No, I don't drive the Lotus much. I only did it because Peter suggested driving different cars in that race. I tried the Ferrari last night, and didn't even get CLOSE to that 8:43 in the Lotus. I think I need to compare the steering lock. The Ferrari seemed to push too much. >BTW, your handicap in your sig is out of date. Don't sell yourself >short, man. :) Oh yeah, right. In the 4 months since the beginning of the year, I've dropped...a whole 1.5 seconds. Yeah, I'm really *zooming* up the rankings...:-) Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +27.07...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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>Ok, I will try to explain why. I am not good at sliding the >car around the corners, so I really need to have agile car >to make any good times. Lotus allows to change direction very >quicky. It also accelerates pretty well from the corners. Also >I've found out that steering ratios 11:1 and 12:1 work pretty >well with Lotus improving the rapidness of your input. With >Ferrari or Eagle I always feel that the car takes too much >time to react on my input and when it reacts I realize that >now it's not what I want and trees are welcoming me.

Ooh, an 11:1 or 12:1 would have me doing a slalom down the straights... I have to raise mine to at least 18:1 on most tracks. Some I have it set at 20:1 Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +27.07...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <[email hidden]>, "Ben Coleman" <[email hidden]> writes: >Actually, I find the Lotus easier than the Ferrari. My regular car was the >Brabham which drifted so easily and I found myself trying to force the >Ferrari to do the same. The Lotus drifts OK, if a little twitchily, and >seems more stable entering corners than the Brabham. > >Ben...commenting from the positive side of GPLRank Hmm...If the Brab is easier to drift than the Ferrari, maybe I should switch to that. People say I drive the turns, as opposed to drifting... Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +27.07...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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> Ok, I will try to explain why. I am not good at sliding the > car around the corners, so I really need to have agile car > to make any good times. Lotus allows to change direction very > quicky. It also accelerates pretty well from the corners. Also > I've found out that steering ratios 11:1 and 12:1 work pretty > well with Lotus improving the rapidness of your input. With > Ferrari or Eagle I always feel that the car takes too much > time to react on my input and when it reacts I realize that > now it's not what I want and trees are welcoming me.

Interesting discussion. I've done most of my GPLing with the Eagle, having started with the Brabham and used the Lotus for one or two of the faster tracks, where I really needed the power (that was my perception). The biggest difference I've noticed Eagle-to-Lotus, particularly if I jump straight from one to the other, is that the Lotus won't turn in if I've got used to the Eagle - particularly in the faster corners, like the kink at Rouen. It just seems to require a different driving style (can't say how) since I eventually adjust to the Lotus and I suspect it's generally quicker. Jonny

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (EldredP) writes: > No, I don't drive the Lotus much. I only did it because Peter suggested > driving different cars in that race. I tried the Ferrari last night, and > didn't even get CLOSE to that 8:43 in the Lotus. I think I need to compare the > steering lock. The Ferrari seemed to push too much. I first felt that the Cooper pushed too much there when I tried it, but fiddled around with the bars some and got it to behave a little better. With the Ferrari (well, with the Cooper too), I trail brake quite a bit at the Ring to help it turn in. And by trail brake, I mean continue a little pressure on the brake while turning, not the gas+brake thing that some people mean by the term. >>BTW, your handicap in your sig is out of date. Don't sell yourself >>short, man. :) > > Oh yeah, right. In the 4 months since the beginning of the year, I've > dropped...a whole 1.5 seconds. Yeah, I'm really *zooming* up the > rankings...:-) Hmm, I started playing this game last November, and made my first GPLRank submission January 3rd this year. I've dropped 215 seconds in that time, but then, I had farther to go... ;-) Marc

In article <[email hidden]>, "Jonny Hodgson" <[email hidden]> writes: >Interesting discussion. I've done most of my GPLing with the >Eagle, having started with the Brabham and used the Lotus >for one or two of the faster tracks, where I really needed the >power (that was my perception). >I started with the Eagle - used that for a long time. When people started talking about Alison Hine's Ferrari setups, I switched. That's my main car now, although I've run a Cooper in a league for the past year and a half. So, I gues I'm comfortable in either the Cooper or Ferrari - just slow...<g> >The biggest difference I've noticed Eagle-to-Lotus, particularly >if I jump straight from one to the other, is that the Lotus won't >turn in if I've got used to the Eagle - particularly in the faster >corners, like the kink at Rouen. It just seems to require a >different driving style (can't say how) since I eventually adjust >to the Lotus and I suspect it's generally quicker. The Eagle turns in more than the Lotus? I always think the Lotus is quicker to swap ends....<shrug> That's why I don't drive it much - I *can't*. Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +27.07...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Isn't it nice that after 3 years there are still newbies picking up the game? Thx again for GPL, Papy Comments are thrown in below. JensSchumi On Fri, 27 Apr 2001 16:19:20 GMT, "Craig Jones" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Okay, so I'm making some (newbie) assumptions here and I'd like some >feedback, if I may. > >I think it's fair to say that, with the right setup, the Lotus is the >quickest, but most car challenging (i.e. difficult) to drive? I don't find the Lotus too difficult. Try the early nunnini-setups. >The Ferrari as the best 'all-rounder' (quoting Alison Hine)? Dunno, always get headache when driving this car >The Eagle seems to me to be the most predictable of the quick three (with >the Ferrari and Lotus)? Might be, but only with the right setups - which I don't have >The Cooper and Honda are slower cars but are more user-friendly and >therefore popular learner cars? Copper is excellent for learning. Honda is something for masochists, but there are quite a few out there. >The Brabham I have not tried yet to any great extent and therefore can't >comment; they seem very rare VROC attendees though? Very nice car, has alotta torque and is quite narrow (important for Monaco) >The BRM is an unpopular first choice but appears to be (again with the right >setup) somewhat of a dark horse? You will have tons of problems to get used to the 6 gears, after having learned a track on 5 gears > >Now I know that any of the GPL cars can be quick, so please don't shoot me >down for 'dissing' your campaigning choice. But I would like to know if I'm >wide of the mark or not. Start with the cooper and then go for either the Brabham or the Lotus. Thats only my personal view. Most important: Have fun > >By the way, I seem to have been swayed by the Eagle since my regular racing >two months ago, but I'm considering giving the Ferrari some time. > >Thoughts, please. --------------------------------------------- LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: http://members.nbci.com/JensSchu/ GPLRank: -10.1 Monsters of GPL: sub 200

Richard, try Nunnini's setups. His setups are like an evolution. the 3-series is quite easy and predictable, while I'm almost not able to drive the 5-series. JensSchumi On Mon, 30 Apr 2001 10:23:54 +0100, "Richard S Beckett" <[email hidden]> wrote: <snip>

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>Trouble is I can't find any setups for the Lotus, and I'm crap at setting up >the car. Can anyone point me at the "Alison Ferrari setup" of the Lotus >world? > >Thanks. > >R.

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