Awww c'mon...I just want GPL to load...

There just has to be a setup like mine running GPL successfully... AMD 1.2 Abit KT7-R (no Raid) 256 mb LeadTek GF2 Ultra - D3 7.58 driver SB Live value Win 2K Installs fine but when starting the intro screen pops up for about a 1/2 second then back to the desktop. I know the secret to success is in app.ini and/or core.ini file. A guy has the same issue a couple posts back. Tried both full and partial install... Straight up and patch 1.2 applied...Both the D3D and OGL (modifying the core.ini and app.ini per the readme)...and nunthin' One would think even choosing the software renderer during install would at least load the game further then a 1/2 second of splash screen! There has to be something I'm overlooking...Any and all advice appreciated. GPLless in Baltimore

...use a gaming OS? "Gordon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> There just has to be a setup like mine running GPL successfully... > > AMD 1.2 > Abit KT7-R (no Raid) > 256 mb > LeadTek GF2 Ultra - D3 7.58 driver > SB Live value > ***Win 2K*** >

<snip> > > There has to be something I'm overlooking...Any and all advice > appreciated. > > GPLless in Baltimore

Hey Slim, I'm not looking for snide remarks, just a little help. On Fri, 27 Apr 2001 23:02:45 GMT, "Simon Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>...use a gaming OS? > >"Gordon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> There just has to be a setup like mine running GPL successfully... >> >> AMD 1.2 >> Abit KT7-R (no Raid) >> 256 mb >> LeadTek GF2 Ultra - D3 7.58 driver >> SB Live value >> ***Win 2K*** >> ><snip>

Sorry about the remark, wasn't really necessary, but Win2k isn't really for games, let alone 3 year old games with beta renderers. Check out the GeForce FAQ at http://www.geforcefaq.com/ and maybe you could try the last official driver release from nVidia (6.50 for Win2K). Also, since the game won't work with the software renderer, that suggests it could be something other than the GF2, like maybe the Live. Creative's Win2K Live drivers have a bad reputation. Is it possible to disable the sound card and try GPL without it? "Gordon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > Hey Slim, I'm not looking for snide remarks, just a little help.

Thanks for the tips however been there done that. Tried Nvidia 6.50, 7.58, 10.80 and 11.01 drivers. Suffered thru the trials and tribulations of Creative drivers, am having good luck currently with the generic Win 2K drivers. Honestly, I appreciate your input. It's frustrating though finally getting around to building a PC that will run GPL, but now it won't. N4, 65 fps all day long with a full field... RC 2000 not nary a flicker with the settings maxed out...GPL, I see a 1/2 second of the splash screen...ARGHHH! On Sat, 28 Apr 2001 01:50:04 GMT, "Simon Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Sorry about the remark, wasn't really necessary, but Win2k isn't really for >games, let alone 3 year old games with beta renderers. > >Check out the GeForce FAQ at http://www.geforcefaq.com/ and maybe you could >try the last official driver release from nVidia (6.50 for Win2K). Also, >since the game won't work with the software renderer, that suggests it could >be something other than the GF2, like maybe the Live. Creative's Win2K Live >drivers have a bad reputation. Is it possible to disable the sound card and >try GPL without it? >

I have almost the exact same set up except for KT7A with RAID 0 and Win98se with no problems 36fps maxed everything. I would suspect win2k as the problem. Just a guess though. "Gordon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> There just has to be a setup like mine running GPL successfully... > > AMD 1.2 > Abit KT7-R (no Raid) > 256 mb > LeadTek GF2 Ultra - D3 7.58 driver > SB Live value > Win 2K > > Installs fine but when starting the intro screen pops up for about a > 1/2 second then back to the desktop. I know the secret to success is > in app.ini and/or core.ini file. A guy has the same issue a couple > posts back. Tried both full and partial install... Straight up and > patch 1.2 applied...Both the D3D and OGL (modifying the core.ini > and app.ini per the readme)...and nunthin' > > One would think even choosing the software renderer during install > would at least load the game further then a 1/2 second of splash > screen! > > There has to be something I'm overlooking...Any and all advice > appreciated. > > GPLless in Baltimore

I suspect the same...Even the demo won't run...One would think there are other fans running a GF2/Win 2K setup successfully. Maybe not. At this point I sure in the hell can't...I had the demo running (barely) a couple years back on a 98se/200mhz/64mb clone and a Canopus 6mb daughter card. Poor FPS held me back from moving to the full version. Thanks for your insight. I'm going to keep pluggin' along till something comes along. I'm convinced it can be done. On Sat, 28 Apr 2001 03:37:58 GMT, "Doug Hook" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>I have almost the exact same set up except for KT7A with RAID 0 and Win98se >with no problems 36fps maxed everything. I would suspect win2k as the >problem. Just a guess though. > > >"Gordon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> There just has to be a setup like mine running GPL successfully... >> >> AMD 1.2 >> Abit KT7-R (no Raid) >> 256 mb >> LeadTek GF2 Ultra - D3 7.58 driver >> SB Live value >> Win 2K >> >> Installs fine but when starting the intro screen pops up for about a >> 1/2 second then back to the desktop. I know the secret to success is >> in app.ini and/or core.ini file. A guy has the same issue a couple >> posts back. Tried both full and partial install... Straight up and >> patch 1.2 applied...Both the D3D and OGL (modifying the core.ini >> and app.ini per the readme)...and nunthin' >> >> One would think even choosing the software renderer during install >> would at least load the game further then a 1/2 second of splash >> screen! >> >> There has to be something I'm overlooking...Any and all advice >> appreciated. >> >> GPLless in Baltimore >

I don't even know if it was this thread, but somebody mentioned right clicking on the file and choosing win98 compatibility mode or something like that...have ya tried that yet? dave henrie "Gordon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> I suspect the same...Even the demo won't run...One would think there > are other fans running a GF2/Win 2K setup successfully. Maybe not. At > this point I sure in the hell can't...I had the demo running (barely) > a couple years back on a 98se/200mhz/64mb clone and a Canopus 6mb > daughter card. Poor FPS held me back from moving to the full version. > > Thanks for your insight. I'm going to keep pluggin' along till > something comes along. I'm convinced it can be done. > > On Sat, 28 Apr 2001 03:37:58 GMT, "Doug Hook" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >I have almost the exact same set up except for KT7A with RAID 0 and

Win98se

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> >with no problems 36fps maxed everything. I would suspect win2k as the > >problem. Just a guess though. > > > > > >"Gordon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:[email hidden]... > >> There just has to be a setup like mine running GPL successfully... > >> > >> AMD 1.2 > >> Abit KT7-R (no Raid) > >> 256 mb > >> LeadTek GF2 Ultra - D3 7.58 driver > >> SB Live value > >> Win 2K > >> > >> Installs fine but when starting the intro screen pops up for about a > >> 1/2 second then back to the desktop. I know the secret to success is > >> in app.ini and/or core.ini file. A guy has the same issue a couple > >> posts back. Tried both full and partial install... Straight up and > >> patch 1.2 applied...Both the D3D and OGL (modifying the core.ini > >> and app.ini per the readme)...and nunthin' > >> > >> One would think even choosing the software renderer during install > >> would at least load the game further then a 1/2 second of splash > >> screen! > >> > >> There has to be something I'm overlooking...Any and all advice > >> appreciated. > >> > >> GPLless in Baltimore > > >

Try running win 2000 in safe mode and see if GPL will start in software mode, that may rule out any driver problems. I'm running GPL on win2000 on 2 PCs, 1 is a celeron 466 with a V3 3000 and SB PCI card 128MB RAM, the other is an Athlon 750 with V4 4500 and an SB Live 1024 with the latest drivers. All I can say is that GPL will run in Win2000, but it can take a bit of persuading. Are you using NTFS or FAT32 ? some people havereported problems getting GPL to run with NTFS, though my celeron system is NTFS. If all else fails, maybe you could use a dual boot system, 98 for games and win2k for all the other stuff. -- Ian P <email invalid due to spam> Gordon <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Thanks for the tips however been there done that. Tried Nvidia 6.50, > 7.58, 10.80 and 11.01 drivers. Suffered thru the trials and > tribulations of Creative drivers, am having good luck currently with > the generic Win 2K drivers. Honestly, I appreciate your input. It's > frustrating though finally getting around to building a PC that will > run GPL, but now it won't. N4, 65 fps all day long with a full > field... RC 2000 not nary a flicker with the settings maxed out...GPL, > I see a 1/2 second of the splash screen...ARGHHH! > > On Sat, 28 Apr 2001 01:50:04 GMT, "Simon Brown" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Sorry about the remark, wasn't really necessary, but Win2k isn't really for > >games, let alone 3 year old games with beta renderers. > > > >Check out the GeForce FAQ at http://www.geforcefaq.com/ and maybe you could > >try the last official driver release from nVidia (6.50 for Win2K). Also, > >since the game won't work with the software renderer, that suggests it could > >be something other than the GF2, like maybe the Live. Creative's Win2K Live > >drivers have a bad reputation. Is it possible to disable the sound card and > >try GPL without it? > > >

> Thanks for your insight. I'm going to keep pluggin' along till > something comes along. I'm convinced it can be done. I assure you it can be done. I gather my ini files didn't help you. What about reinstalling w2k? A desperate measure, to be sure, but one that might work. NTFS isn't your problem, and neither is the video card. I run 2k sp1 with nVidia GeForce2 GTS, dual 800 PIIIs, 768 MB rdram, and ultra 160 scsi. Sound is Crystal SoundFusion. Don't even think of installing Windows 98 on your box. I run Windows Me on a 1.4 P4, and it's slower than the dual 800. Have you tried removing the sound card? --Jeff "Gordon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> I suspect the same...Even the demo won't run...One would think there > are other fans running a GF2/Win 2K setup successfully. Maybe not. At > this point I sure in the hell can't...I had the demo running (barely) > a couple years back on a 98se/200mhz/64mb clone and a Canopus 6mb > daughter card. Poor FPS held me back from moving to the full version. > > Thanks for your insight. I'm going to keep pluggin' along till > something comes along. I'm convinced it can be done. > > On Sat, 28 Apr 2001 03:37:58 GMT, "Doug Hook" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >I have almost the exact same set up except for KT7A with RAID 0 and

Win98se

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> >with no problems 36fps maxed everything. I would suspect win2k as the > >problem. Just a guess though. > > > > > >"Gordon" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:[email hidden]... > >> There just has to be a setup like mine running GPL successfully... > >> > >> AMD 1.2 > >> Abit KT7-R (no Raid) > >> 256 mb > >> LeadTek GF2 Ultra - D3 7.58 driver > >> SB Live value > >> Win 2K > >> > >> Installs fine but when starting the intro screen pops up for about a > >> 1/2 second then back to the desktop. I know the secret to success is > >> in app.ini and/or core.ini file. A guy has the same issue a couple > >> posts back. Tried both full and partial install... Straight up and > >> patch 1.2 applied...Both the D3D and OGL (modifying the core.ini > >> and app.ini per the readme)...and nunthin' > >> > >> One would think even choosing the software renderer during install > >> would at least load the game further then a 1/2 second of splash > >> screen! > >> > >> There has to be something I'm overlooking...Any and all advice > >> appreciated. > >> > >> GPLless in Baltimore > > >

"Jeffrey Rowe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9cekh6$mbu$[email hidden]... > > Thanks for your insight. I'm going to keep pluggin' along till > > something comes along. I'm convinced it can be done. > > I assure you it can be done. How can you be so sure? Straight after installing Win2K I try GPL in software mode and it doesn't work. Same thing exactly on my other machine. NTFS and FAT32 both do the same, any number of drivers / patches / whatever don't seem to make any difference whatsoever. > I gather my ini files didn't help you. > What about reinstalling w2k? A desperate measure, to be sure, but one > that might work. NTFS isn't your problem, and neither is the video card. > I run 2k sp1 with nVidia GeForce2 GTS, dual 800 PIIIs, 768 MB rdram, and > ultra 160 scsi. Sound is Crystal SoundFusion. Don't even think ofinstalling > Windows 98 on your box. I run Windows Me on a 1.4 P4, and it's slower than > the dual 800. I am back running Win98 now, everything runs fine, especially GPL!!

I've run GPL for the past year on Win2K Advanced Server with a PIII@765Mhz, 256mb ram, IDE hardware raid 0, SBlive, GeForce DDR (currently with 7.58 drivers) and NTFS. GPL does run very well on Win2K and a lot better than ME. I did get the same problem as you for a short while but it stopped of it's own accord. Because I am constanly tweaking and fiddling about it could have been any one of a number of things which fixed it. However it only ever happened when the desktop was in 32bit, all I had to do was swap to 16bit and run GPL again. You could try switching off as many services as possible and end any programs you have in the background which may help. Here's my core.ini if that helps. [ Int Profile Values ] value0 = OpenGL:TossHighestMip:0 ; do not change value1 = OpenGL:MipFiltering:0 ; do not change value2 = OpenGL:MirrorsEvery:1 ; do not change value3 = Direct3D7:D3DDevice:0 value4 = Direct3D7:TossHighestMip:0 value5 = Direct3D7:TrilinearFiltering:0 value6 = Direct3D7:DoubleMirrorResWidth:0 value7 = Direct3D7:DoubleMirrorResHeight:0 value8 = Direct3D7:DirectMirrorRendering:0 value9 = Direct3D7:DisableZBuffer:0 [ Direct3D7 ] D3DDevice = 0 TossHighestMip = 0 TrilinearFiltering = 1 DoubleMirrorResWidth = 1 DoubleMirrorResHeight = 1 DirectMirrorRendering = 1 DisableZBuffer = 0 [ OpenGL ] TossHighestMip = 0 ; MipFiltering = 4 ; MirrorsEvery = 1 ; [ Joy ] allow_force_feedback = 1 force_feedback_latency = 0.0002 ; in seconds force_feedback_damping = 150 ; magic number2 max_steering_torque = 230 ; in Newton-inches [Rasterizer] fullScreen = 1 Hopefully with some fiddling you should be up and running with some minor fiddling around. -- Some Call Me Tim

"Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9ce477$gpl$[email hidden]... > All I can say is that GPL will run in Win2000, but it can take a bit of > persuading. Yup... I have it running on P3-600, V3 3k PCI, Win2k... but having problems with sound. I.e. sometimes GPL goes silent while driving and I have to restart the game to get the sounds back. No probs under Win98. I got GPL to run on Win2k after installing GPL first under Win98 on the same machine, then applying the latest patches (1.2.0.1 + Glide2x patch). After that I renamed the GPL directory (c:\sierra -> c:\sierra.bak) and installed the game under Win2k to c:\sierra. Then I deleted the c:\sierra directory and renamed c:\sierra.bak back to c:\sierra... a bit complicated, but now I can run GPL from both systems using the same installation :) - Igor -