?? for hardware gurus (GPL)

Folks, bit of a quandry. I finally found a copy of GPL about 3 weeks ago and was really looking forward to getting into it but have a small problem that is killing any hope of continuing. I have a few racing sims that I have enjoyed immensly in the last few years. From those I have developed a particular setup that works intuitively (and well) for me (as have most of us, I would think). It is not practical (or really even possible) for me to use a wheel (long boring explanation if I must) so I have been using joysticks. My current stick is a non-forcefeedback Logitech Wingman Digital (really sweet for my tastes and play style). It has a throttle (thumb slider style) with 2 distinct axis' (forward and backward). My standard config is to have the accelerator be on the upstroke of the slider and the brake to be on the downstroke. This allows for very easy (almost mandatory) trailbraking because I am applying a small amount of brake anytime the throttle is not WFO. The sims I routinely enjoy (and have Wingman Profiles set up for) all work flawlessly in this config however in GPL, once the slider reaches the midpoint of the upstroke, the throttle instantly goes WFO and when the slider reaches the midpoint of the downstroke, I am standing on the brakes. This slider is being interpreted as a button (either full on or completely off) in both axis'. I have spent hours trying various Wingman Profiles and controller mappings to no avail. Is there any hope or is GPL simply not going to ever be able to use a joystick that has properties of a pedal setup? Thanks for reading this far.

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> The sims I routinely enjoy (and have Wingman Profiles set up for) all > work flawlessly in this config however in GPL, once the slider reaches > the midpoint of the upstroke, the throttle instantly goes WFO and when > the slider reaches the midpoint of the downstroke, I am standing on > the brakes. This slider is being interpreted as a button (either full > on or completely off) in both axis'. > > I have spent hours trying various Wingman Profiles and controller > mappings to no avail. Is there any hope or is GPL simply not going to > ever be able to use a joystick that has properties of a pedal setup? > > Thanks for reading this far.

Forgive an obvious question here... Do you have throttle help & braking help enabled? If so, turn them off. -- Fester

On Fri, 27 Apr 2001 21:30:53 GMT, [email hidden] wrote:

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>Folks, > > bit of a quandry. I finally found a copy of GPL about 3 weeks >ago and was really looking forward to getting into it but have a small >problem that is killing any hope of continuing. > > I have a few racing sims that I have enjoyed immensly in the >last few years. From those I have developed a particular setup that >works intuitively (and well) for me (as have most of us, I would >think). It is not practical (or really even possible) for me to use a >wheel (long boring explanation if I must) so I have been using >joysticks. My current stick is a non-forcefeedback Logitech Wingman >Digital (really sweet for my tastes and play style). It has a >throttle (thumb slider style) with 2 distinct axis' (forward and >backward). My standard config is to have the accelerator be on the >upstroke of the slider and the brake to be on the downstroke. This >allows for very easy (almost mandatory) trailbraking because I am >applying a small amount of brake anytime the throttle is not WFO. > >The sims I routinely enjoy (and have Wingman Profiles set up for) all >work flawlessly in this config however in GPL, once the slider reaches >the midpoint of the upstroke, the throttle instantly goes WFO and when >the slider reaches the midpoint of the downstroke, I am standing on >the brakes. This slider is being interpreted as a button (either full >on or completely off) in both axis'. > >I have spent hours trying various Wingman Profiles and controller >mappings to no avail. Is there any hope or is GPL simply not going to >ever be able to use a joystick that has properties of a pedal setup?

Hmmm. Do you have the joystick set up in Windows so that the throttle is recognized as an analog axis? When you calibrate your joystick within GPL, does it see that axis? I use two joysticks on a splitter cable, and I set up Windows to recognize it as a standard joystick with throttle (I only use one axis on the second stick). Then I use that throttle axis for throttle/brake in GPL (not optimal, but what I'm used to). That should be analogous to what you're doing (unless there is something unique about the hardware of your joystick). Good luck. Keep at it, it's worth it! :) "But in a way, fear is a big part of racing, because if there was nothing to be frightened of, and no limit, any fool could get into a motor car and racing would not exist as a sport." -- Jim Clark