Keyboard controls for Nascar 4?

I *vaguely* remember seeing something about this. Doesn't N4 work with just keyboard controls? The reason I'm asking is that I wanted to load it as a server at work. Of course, I don't have a wheel or joystick connected to the server. :( Also, if I run it as a server I won't be able to run it from home, right? I don't want to buy another CD just to run a server... Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

You can drive with keyboard fine, but there is a limit on customizations to the keys and helps will be on. Actually, if you connect a wheel first then remove it the helps it seem stay off. There is a separate EXE file for dedicated servers called "Launch Dedicated Server" from the START menu. It does not required a CD. Jason. EldredP wrote:

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> > I *vaguely* remember seeing something about this. Doesn't N4 work with just > keyboard controls? The reason I'm asking is that I wanted to load it as a > server at work. Of course, I don't have a wheel or joystick connected to the > server. :( > Also, if I run it as a server I won't be able to run it from home, right? I > don't want to buy another CD just to run a server... > > Eldred > -- > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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In article <[email hidden]>, Jason Monds <[email hidden]> writes:

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>You can drive with keyboard fine, but there is a limit on customizations >to the keys and helps will be on. Actually, if you connect a wheel >first then remove it the helps it seem stay off. > >There is a separate EXE file for dedicated servers called "Launch >Dedicated Server" from the START menu. It does not required a CD. >

Damn, that's too easy... No, I don't need to drive from that system at all. I just wanted to run it as a server. I'll try again tomorrow. Thanks. Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +27.07...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (EldredP) writes:

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>In article <[email hidden]>, Jason Monds ><[email hidden]> writes: > >>You can drive with keyboard fine, but there is a limit on customizations >>to the keys and helps will be on. Actually, if you connect a wheel >>first then remove it the helps it seem stay off. >> >>There is a separate EXE file for dedicated servers called "Launch >>Dedicated Server" from the START menu. It does not required a CD. >> > >Damn, that's too easy... No, I don't need to drive from that system at all. >I >just wanted to run it as a server. I'll try again tomorrow. Thanks.

Well, it worked. But, I didn't select to run 'ranked' races on all the tracks. Now it won't give me the option to change it. It just goes straight into the launch screen. I even tried renaming the app.ini and core.ini. WTF? <sigh> Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +27.07...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Okay, I'll take you a step back. 1. You can read the readme file in the N4 main folder if you wish :) 2. If you want to do some stuff like setting up which car the computer will run, start N4 the normal method by using the CD and configure your name, car and connection options like the number of drivers per TCP/IP address. Don't forget to enter a password/boss entry in the multiplayer screen so your server can be controlled from home. 3. Shutdown N4. 3. To make the server rank races, you have to change the player.ini file in the driver/myname/ folder (off the top of my head but it's in the area where your setups are saved but up 1 folder). Search for "rank" or "10" in the file. There are 4 entries with 0's that you need to change to 1's for all races to be ranked. It shouldn't be too hard to find since you'll be in the right file now :) 4. Now relaunch N4 using the "Launch Dedicated Server" option. Hope this is a bit clearer now :) Jason. EldredP wrote:

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> Well, it worked. But, I didn't select to run 'ranked' races on all the tracks. > Now it won't give me the option to change it. It just goes straight into the > launch screen. I even tried renaming the app.ini and core.ini. WTF? > <sigh> > > Eldred > --

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I hope not :( That's the last thing we need on Sierra... -Larry "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I *vaguely* remember seeing something about this. Doesn't N4 work withjust > keyboard controls? The reason I'm asking is that I wanted to load it as a > server at work. Of course, I don't have a wheel or joystick connected tothe > server. :( > Also, if I run it as a server I won't be able to run it from home, right?I

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> don't want to buy another CD just to run a server... > > Eldred > -- > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

The INI file you are looking for to make changes in after initially running n4server is in the papy/N4/players/dedicated server/player.ini. I think you can change the ratings in there, I know thats where you go to change the password (or command line switches, see the readme files) To change whether or not you "register" your server with Sierra is in the Core.INI under [server] Find the Sierra line and change the 1 to a 0. Helped our league imensely before patch, stopped that incecsent pinging that was crashing our races, haven't gone back to it since the patch (we dont care about rankings) and prolly won't. Hope some of this helps SR Larry <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:c0_H6.64195$[email hidden]...

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> I hope not :( That's the last thing we need on Sierra... > > -Larry > > "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I *vaguely* remember seeing something about this. Doesn't N4 work with > just > > keyboard controls? The reason I'm asking is that I wanted to load it as

a > > server at work. Of course, I don't have a wheel or joystick connectedto > the > > server. :( > > Also, if I run it as a server I won't be able to run it from home,right?

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> I > > don't want to buy another CD just to run a server... > > > > Eldred > > -- > > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > > F1 hcp. +28.67...F2 +151.26... > > > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats > you > > with experience... > > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply. > >

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>The INI file you are looking for to make changes in after initially running >n4server is in the papy/N4/players/dedicated server/player.ini. I think you >can change the ratings in there, I know thats where you go to change the >password (or command line switches, see the readme files) To change whether >or not you "register" your server with Sierra is in the Core.INI under >[server] Find the Sierra line and change the 1 to a 0. Helped our league >imensely before patch, stopped that incecsent pinging that was crashing our >races, haven't gone back to it since the patch (we dont care about rankings) >and prolly won't.

Ok, thanks for the info. Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +27.07...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <[email hidden]>, Jason Monds <[email hidden]> writes: >Okay, I'll take you a step back. > >1. You can read the readme file in the N4 main folder if you wish :) >I did that before I posted the message - I didn't see what I was looking for. I must have just missed it... >2. If you want to do some stuff like setting up which car the computer >will run, start N4 the normal method by using the CD and configure your >name, car and connection options like the number of drivers per TCP/IP >address. Don't forget to enter a password/boss entry in the multiplayer >screen so your server can be controlled from home.Rats, I can't do this yet. No joystick, it won't let me get past the config screen...

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> >3. Shutdown N4. > >3. To make the server rank races, you have to change the player.ini file >in the driver/myname/ folder (off the top of my head but it's in the >area where your setups are saved but up 1 folder). Search for "rank" or >"10" in the file. There are 4 entries with 0's that you need to change >to 1's for all races to be ranked. It shouldn't be too hard to find >since you'll be in the right file now :)

Found the file, thanks. > >4. Now relaunch N4 using the "Launch Dedicated Server" option. > >Hope this is a bit clearer now :) Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +27.07...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

You shouldn't need a joystick to just configure your dedicated server player. Just press "done" when the controller screen comes up. I wonder if you need a joystick port for it to work? That *is* wierd. Jason. EldredP wrote:

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> > >2. If you want to do some stuff like setting up which car the computer > >will run, start N4 the normal method by using the CD and configure your > >name, car and connection options like the number of drivers per TCP/IP > >address. Don't forget to enter a password/boss entry in the multiplayer > >screen so your server can be controlled from home. > Rats, I can't do this yet. No joystick, it won't let me get past the config > screen... > > > Eldred

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In article <[email hidden]>, Jason Monds <[email hidden]> writes: >You shouldn't need a joystick to just configure your dedicated server >player. Just press "done" when the controller screen comes up. I >wonder if you need a joystick port for it to work? That *is* wierd. > It says something like, "all controls must be configured"... My only option is <back>. Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +27.07...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Then try setting all the BOLD entries to a key. If you have problems assigning a key, try a keypad button. It has to work. Jason. EldredP wrote:

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> > In article <[email hidden]>, Jason Monds > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >You shouldn't need a joystick to just configure your dedicated server > >player. Just press "done" when the controller screen comes up. I > >wonder if you need a joystick port for it to work? That *is* wierd. > > > > It says something like, "all controls must be configured"... My only option is > <back>. > > Eldred > --

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>Then try setting all the BOLD entries to a key. If you have problems >assigning a key, try a keypad button. It has to work. > >Jason. > >EldredP wrote: >> >> In article <[email hidden]>, Jason Monds >> <[email hidden]> writes: >> >> >You shouldn't need a joystick to just configure your dedicated server >> >player. Just press "done" when the controller screen comes up. I >> >wonder if you need a joystick port for it to work? That *is* wierd. >> > >> >> It says something like, "all controls must be configured"... My only >option is >> <back>.

Last time I tried was Monday, I think. I didn't see this post until I got home, and the system is at work. Going from memory here... Since there isn't a joystick attached, the values keep jumping around. It assigns whatever axis jumps first. But, it won't keep that as a value because the min/max 'spread' isn't enough. Whatever the issue was, I couldn't go forward, and I couldn't go back far enough to abort the config. I had to alt-tab, then kill N4 in the task list. Not very user-friendly, if you ask me... :( Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +27.07...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

I think I get it now. When I start N4 without my TM-FF (USB) attached it defaults to keyboard controls and I just press the DONE button. The calibration screen doesn't even show up. You could try: 1. Remove the joystick from the Game Controls screen. 2. Removing/backup the player.ini file so it doesn't think you have a joystick. 3. Just move the player/yourname folder to player/yourname.old If you want to use it as a server, you can make up a new driver. It sounds like step 3 should definately get you up and running. Jason. EldredP wrote:

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> > > Last time I tried was Monday, I think. I didn't see this post until I got > home, and the system is at work. Going from memory here... Since there isn't > a joystick attached, the values keep jumping around. It assigns whatever axis > jumps first. But, it won't keep that as a value because the min/max 'spread' > isn't enough. Whatever the issue was, I couldn't go forward, and I couldn't go > back far enough to abort the config. I had to alt-tab, then kill N4 in the > task list. Not very user-friendly, if you ask me... :( > > Eldred > --

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