N4 performance...

Hello all...just loaded N4 last night Some tips for me maybe? Athlon 800, V5, 128 mb ram, adsl for net connection. Where should I be for good gameplay frame wise. I first used open gl and was getting about 14fps. I thought oh oh...then I switched to d3d and ran a frame rate that went between 45-60 it seemed. The I went to 2x fsaa and frames were around 38-39. Is this ok for online play? Any thoughts on how to make N4 look good would be appreciated. I use a TSW and at times the center seemed a bit off any tips on controller use? Any good sites for setups and info? As far as online play is there a vroc (gpl) type software to find races. At your convenience some info would be appreciated. I will be offline for a while so I hope to hear your thoughts. Dave Ciemny

To me, The more fps you can get without suffering in other areas of any sim then this is where you would want to be.. I feel it is a trial and error type thing.. Good Luck.. Thom_j. "David Ciemny" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:jnJH6.7750$[email hidden]... | Hello all...just loaded N4 last night | | Some tips for me maybe? Athlon 800, V5, 128 mb ram, adsl for net | connection. | | Where should I be for good gameplay frame wise. I first used open gl andwas | getting about 14fps. I thought oh oh...then I switched to d3d and ran a | frame rate that went between 45-60 it seemed. The I went to 2x fsaa and | frames were around 38-39. Is this ok for online play? Any thoughts on howto | make N4 look good would be appreciated. | | I use a TSW and at times the center seemed a bit off any tips oncontroller | use? | | Any good sites for setups and info? As far as online play is there a vroc | (gpl) type software to find races. | | At your convenience some info would be appreciated. I will be offline fora

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| while so I hope to hear your thoughts. | | Dave Ciemny | | | |

N4 has pretty awesome built in mulitplayer capabilities. Be sure and get the patch, as it improves it substantially. Your going to want good framerates, especially for online play. Your not going to want to drop below 30 fps for online play. I would think you would get better results running in d3d with that V5. Turn the world detail setting way down in N4. It seems to have a large impact on framerates, and still looks very good even with it turned way down. I use a TSW2, and have my linearity set to 60%, and run fairly high wheel locks at most tracks. You'll want to experiement with these 2 settings to see what works best for you. As far as feeling the center may be a bit off, your probably talking about the pull to the left which is a result of the stagger ( set by the game), castor and camber. It helps the car turn in the turns, but will give you a pull to the left down the straight. -- Don Burnette D Burnette in N4 Some people do nothing wrong. The problem is, they do nothing. And THAT is wrong. "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:K6LH6.43580$[email hidden]... > To me, The more fps you can get without suffering in other areas of any > sim then this is where you would want to be.. I feel it is a trial and error > type thing.. Good Luck.. Thom_j. > > "David Ciemny" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:jnJH6.7750$[email hidden]... > | Hello all...just loaded N4 last night > | > | Some tips for me maybe? Athlon 800, V5, 128 mb ram, adsl for net > | connection. > | > | Where should I be for good gameplay frame wise. I first used open gl and > was > | getting about 14fps. I thought oh oh...then I switched to d3d and ran a > | frame rate that went between 45-60 it seemed. The I went to 2x fsaa and > | frames were around 38-39. Is this ok for online play? Any thoughts on how > to > | make N4 look good would be appreciated. > | > | I use a TSW and at times the center seemed a bit off any tips on > controller > | use? > | > | Any good sites for setups and info? As far as online play is there a vroc > | (gpl) type software to find races. > | > | At your convenience some info would be appreciated. I will be offline for > a > | while so I hope to hear your thoughts. > | > | Dave Ciemny > | > | > | > | > >

Thanks Don...I think I spend too much time in the '67 GP cars :o))) Dave C. Don Burnette <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ZrLH6.47894$[email hidden]... > N4 has pretty awesome built in mulitplayer capabilities. Be sure and getthe > patch, as it improves it substantially. > Your going to want good framerates, especially for online play. Your not > going to want to drop below 30 fps for online play. I would think youwould

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> get better results running in d3d with that V5. Turn the world detail > setting way down in N4. It seems to have a large impact on framerates, and > still looks very good even with it turned way down. > I use a TSW2, and have my linearity set to 60%, and run fairly high wheel > locks at most tracks. You'll want to experiement with these 2 settings to > see what works best for you. > As far as feeling the center may be a bit off, your probably talking about > the pull to the left which is a result of the stagger ( set by the game), > castor and camber. It helps the car turn in the turns, but will give you a > pull to the left down the straight. > > -- > Don Burnette > D Burnette in N4 > > Some people do nothing wrong. > The problem is, they do nothing. > And THAT is wrong. > > "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:K6LH6.43580$[email hidden]... > > To me, The more fps you can get without suffering in other areas of any > > sim then this is where you would want to be.. I feel it is a trial and > error > > type thing.. Good Luck.. Thom_j. > > > > "David Ciemny" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:jnJH6.7750$[email hidden]... > > | Hello all...just loaded N4 last night > > | > > | Some tips for me maybe? Athlon 800, V5, 128 mb ram, adsl for net > > | connection. > > | > > | Where should I be for good gameplay frame wise. I first used open gl

and > > was > > | getting about 14fps. I thought oh oh...then I switched to d3d and rana > > | frame rate that went between 45-60 it seemed. The I went to 2x fsaaand

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> > | frames were around 38-39. Is this ok for online play? Any thoughts on > how > > to > > | make N4 look good would be appreciated. > > | > > | I use a TSW and at times the center seemed a bit off any tips on > > controller > > | use? > > | > > | Any good sites for setups and info? As far as online play is there a > vroc > > | (gpl) type software to find races. > > | > > | At your convenience some info would be appreciated. I will be offline > for > > a > > | while so I hope to hear your thoughts. > > | > > | Dave Ciemny > > | > > | > > | > > | > > > > > >

Welcome, You can never spend too much time in a '67 car (has it been 3 years already?:) I'm gonna break 8:10 @ the Ring soon (Eagle). I promise you knowing GPL is a great benefit for N4. See ya on the track! Charlie B David Ciemny <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9ELH6.18314$[email hidden]...

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> Thanks Don...I think I spend too much time in the '67 GP cars :o))) > > Dave C. > Don Burnette <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:ZrLH6.47894$[email hidden]... > > N4 has pretty awesome built in mulitplayer capabilities. Be sure and get > the > > patch, as it improves it substantially. > > Your going to want good framerates, especially for online play. Your not > > going to want to drop below 30 fps for online play. I would think you > would > > get better results running in d3d with that V5. Turn the world detail > > setting way down in N4. It seems to have a large impact on framerates,

and > > still looks very good even with it turned way down. > > I use a TSW2, and have my linearity set to 60%, and run fairly highwheel > > locks at most tracks. You'll want to experiement with these 2 settingsto > > see what works best for you. > > As far as feeling the center may be a bit off, your probably talkingabout > > the pull to the left which is a result of the stagger ( set by thegame), > > castor and camber. It helps the car turn in the turns, but will give youa

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> > pull to the left down the straight. > > > > -- > > Don Burnette > > D Burnette in N4 > > > > Some people do nothing wrong. > > The problem is, they do nothing. > > And THAT is wrong. > > > > "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:K6LH6.43580$[email hidden]... > > > To me, The more fps you can get without suffering in other areas of

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> > > sim then this is where you would want to be.. I feel it is a trial and > > error > > > type thing.. Good Luck.. Thom_j. > > > > > > "David Ciemny" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > > news:jnJH6.7750$[email hidden]... > > > | Hello all...just loaded N4 last night > > > | > > > | Some tips for me maybe? Athlon 800, V5, 128 mb ram, adsl for net > > > | connection. > > > | > > > | Where should I be for good gameplay frame wise. I first used open gl > and > > > was > > > | getting about 14fps. I thought oh oh...then I switched to d3d and

ran > a > > > | frame rate that went between 45-60 it seemed. The I went to 2x fsaa > and > > > | frames were around 38-39. Is this ok for online play? Any thoughtson

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> > how > > > to > > > | make N4 look good would be appreciated. > > > | > > > | I use a TSW and at times the center seemed a bit off any tips on > > > controller > > > | use? > > > | > > > | Any good sites for setups and info? As far as online play is there a > > vroc > > > | (gpl) type software to find races. > > > | > > > | At your convenience some info would be appreciated. I will be

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On Wed, 02 May 2001 04:23:27 GMT, "Charlie B" <[email hidden]> wrote: <snip> > I promise you >knowing GPL is a great benefit for N4. See ya on the track! > > Charlie B Yesterday I found out that it can also be a disadvantage.. Race at Bristol, constant using trailbraking. The first 15 laps went fine, I could keep up with the other driver, but then the car started to push like mad in the corners, the RF tire became way too hot.. Nope, these Nascars want to be treated different than my Lotus 49.. Andre

ANYONE can string together hot laps for awhile...well I've heard of folks who can that is....but TIRE MANAGEMENT is a big part of Nascar type racing. But we all know this isn't much of an issue in GPL so I'm thinking we will see more than a few hotshoes having trouble with longer races. dave henrie "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Wed, 02 May 2001 04:23:27 GMT, "Charlie B" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > <snip> > > I promise you > >knowing GPL is a great benefit for N4. See ya on the track! > > > > Charlie B > > Yesterday I found out that it can also be a disadvantage.. Race at > Bristol, constant using trailbraking. The first 15 laps went fine, I > could keep up with the other driver, but then the car started to push > like mad in the corners, the RF tire became way too hot.. > Nope, these Nascars want to be treated different than my Lotus 49.. > > Andre

That's another bad thing about pick-up races. 99% of them are too short for tire management, fuel management or flag management to make a difference :( I wish Papy had a dedicated server set up to run 40 or 50% races wilth full features enabled. That would be my home. -Larry "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:XvTH6.95296$[email hidden]... > ANYONE can string together hot laps for awhile...well I've heard offolks > who can that is....but TIRE MANAGEMENT is a big part of Nascar typeracing.

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> But we all know this isn't much of an issue in GPL so I'm thinking we will > see more than a few hotshoes having trouble with longer races. > dave henrie > "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > On Wed, 02 May 2001 04:23:27 GMT, "Charlie B" <[email hidden]> > > wrote: > > > > <snip> > > > I promise you > > >knowing GPL is a great benefit for N4. See ya on the track! > > > > > > Charlie B > > > > Yesterday I found out that it can also be a disadvantage.. Race at > > Bristol, constant using trailbraking. The first 15 laps went fine, I > > could keep up with the other driver, but then the car started to push > > like mad in the corners, the RF tire became way too hot.. > > Nope, these Nascars want to be treated different than my Lotus 49.. > > > > Andre > >

That's right. Surprised that Papyrus didn't include the 2x,4x,8x accelleration feature that F12000, and some others, had. All the online races I've participated in are <25%, I haven't had to pit once. Takes out the strategic element that NASCAR needs, and N4 is well equipped to provide- with an accelleration option. I think it would separate the men from the boys- in every sense.:-). The same day the put that it I'm upgrading from dial-up to cable. That said, I think it's the reigning king of Auto sims- until GPL2. "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:48jI6.69170$[email hidden]... > That's another bad thing about pick-up races. 99% of them are too shortfor > tire management, fuel management or flag management to make a difference:( > > I wish Papy had a dedicated server set up to run 40 or 50% races wilthfull

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> features enabled. That would be my home. > > -Larry > > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:XvTH6.95296$[email hidden]... > > ANYONE can string together hot laps for awhile...well I've heard of > folks > > who can that is....but TIRE MANAGEMENT is a big part of Nascar type > racing. > > But we all know this isn't much of an issue in GPL so I'm thinking we

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> > see more than a few hotshoes having trouble with longer races. > > dave henrie > > "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > On Wed, 02 May 2001 04:23:27 GMT, "Charlie B" <[email hidden]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > <snip> > > > > I promise you > > > >knowing GPL is a great benefit for N4. See ya on the track! > > > > > > > > Charlie B > > > > > > Yesterday I found out that it can also be a disadvantage.. Race at > > > Bristol, constant using trailbraking. The first 15 laps went fine, I > > > could keep up with the other driver, but then the car started to push > > > like mad in the corners, the RF tire became way too hot.. > > > Nope, these Nascars want to be treated different than my Lotus 49.. > > > > > > Andre > > > > > >

"Peyton Oxford" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9cso7l$r59$[email hidden]... > That's right. Surprised that Papyrus didn't include the 2x,4x,8x > accelleration feature that F12000, and some others, had. All the online > races I've participated in are <25%, I haven't had to pit once. Takes out > the strategic element that NASCAR needs, and N4 is well equipped toprovide- > with an accelleration option. I think it would separate the men from the > boys- in every sense.:-). It doesn't. Try doing 60 laps at Daytona UNDER YELLOW. I've done it and it's the worst hour and a half I've ever spent. Even more than any other kind of race, you have to have good drivers to make it work. Take out the yellows, and you'll have 1 car 5 laps ahead of the next car which is 5 laps ahead of the next car etc. which isn't really racing but driving in circles for fun. -Phasor

Phasor, I was referring to increasing tyre wear, brake wear, and fuel consumption by a certain percentage in order to encourage more pit stops- IOW, a pit stop strategy. This is a strategic element missing online because the races are too short. If you run a 50% race with 50% more wear and tear you'll have to make similiar tactical decisions faced by real NASCAR drivers. "Phasor" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:lUnI6.18032$[email hidden]... > "Peyton Oxford" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:9cso7l$r59$[email hidden]... > > That's right. Surprised that Papyrus didn't include the 2x,4x,8x > > accelleration feature that F12000, and some others, had. All the online > > races I've participated in are <25%, I haven't had to pit once. Takesout

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> > the strategic element that NASCAR needs, and N4 is well equipped to > provide- > > with an accelleration option. I think it would separate the men from the > > boys- in every sense.:-). > > It doesn't. Try doing 60 laps at Daytona UNDER YELLOW. I've done it and > it's the worst hour and a half I've ever spent. Even more than any other > kind of race, you have to have good drivers to make it work. Take out the > yellows, and you'll have 1 car 5 laps ahead of the next car which is 5

laps > ahead of the next car etc. which isn't really racing but driving incircles > for fun. > > -Phasor > >