"Driven" review at Planet F1

Quote: "Either this is a cult classic in the making, or race fans should avoid it at all costs." http://www.planet-f1.com/news/article.html/f1/ENG?ref=5942

On Wed, 02 May 2001 11:29:56 +0200, Jan Loebzien <[email hidden]> wrote: >Quote: "Either this is a cult classic in the making, or race fans >should avoid it at all costs." >http://www.planet-f1.com/news/article.html/f1/ENG?ref=5942 But read some user reviews on www.imdb.com - the 'average' crowd seems to love it.. Andre

<<"Either this is a cult classic in the making, or race fans should avoid it at all costs.">> A cult classic in the same mold as "Plan 9 From Outer Space." --Steve Smith

On Wed, 02 May 2001 11:04:14 GMT, [email hidden] (Andre Warringa) wrote: >But read some user reviews on www.imdb.com - the 'average' crowd seems >to love it.. Yeah, but r.a.s isn't exactly the average crowd. Or is it? ;-)

I haven't seen it yet(but I do have an almost free coupon to use/waste) so I may. But most of the interviews I've seen has Sly focusing on attracting or gaining interest from Non-racers. As such, we may think it silly, trite, condecending etc. But that is just what will grab a 'non-fan' and possibly pull him in. So IF Stallone was targeting this non-fan as the primary viewer of the film, it seems he suceeded. dave henrie "Jan Loebzien" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Wed, 02 May 2001 11:04:14 GMT, [email hidden] (Andre > Warringa) wrote: > > >But read some user reviews on www.imdb.com - the 'average' crowd seems > >to love it.. > > Yeah, but r.a.s isn't exactly the average crowd. Or is it? ;-)

Serious racers will pick this movie apart and probably not like it. I didn't notice a single one of the nitpicks in the Planet-F1 review but I wasn't there to analyze the "reality" of the movie - just to have a good time and see some fast driving and amazing crashes. Serious movie-lovers will like this movie a lot. It's low on plot but high on action and energy and lots of "eye candy" tossed in the pit scenes. Plus any movie where you can see Gina Gershon's sexy-snarl for 2hrs is worth the price of admission. Considering most people go to the races to see the crashes - this movie delivers those in excess and nobody is getting hurt. [email hidden] (Andre Warringa) wrote:

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>On Wed, 02 May 2001 11:29:56 +0200, Jan Loebzien <[email hidden]> >wrote: > >>Quote: "Either this is a cult classic in the making, or race fans >>should avoid it at all costs." >>http://www.planet-f1.com/news/article.html/f1/ENG?ref=5942 > >But read some user reviews on www.imdb.com - the 'average' crowd seems >to love it.. > >Andre

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On 02 May 2001 14:29:44 GMT, [email hidden] (Sinjin) wrote: >I didn't notice a single one of the nitpicks in the Planet-F1 review [snip] Hmm, I guess that's why I asked "or is it" in the other post. <G> Jan

On Wed, 02 May 2001 13:22:31 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> I haven't seen it yet(but I do have an almost free coupon to use/waste) >so I may. But most of the interviews I've seen has Sly focusing on >attracting or gaining interest from Non-racers. As such, we may think it >silly, trite, condecending etc. But that is just what will grab a 'non-fan' >and possibly pull him in. So IF Stallone was targeting this non-fan as the >primary viewer of the film, it seems he suceeded. >dave henrie

Stallone has never turned out a decent movie yet. I abhor the Rocky series too, Judge Dred was his low point though. Absolutely pathetic shite.

Gary Cogil, the movie reviewer for WFAA in Dallas gave this a very poor rating. The graphics look like a video game, story not very realistic, ... He said that any movie that had a Stallone character as the most rational is cause for concern. heh heh Tim.

>"Sinjin" <[email hidden]> wrote > Serious movie-lovers will like this movie a lot. Errr, I think you might confuse something here :) Serious movie-lovers all HATE this movie. Racing freaks all HATE this movie. The only people that enjoy Driven are the mainstream masses. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Hey, don't be dissin' the Dredd! -Larry "Nos v7.0000001" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Wed, 02 May 2001 13:22:31 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > > I haven't seen it yet(but I do have an almost free coupon to use/waste) > >so I may. But most of the interviews I've seen has Sly focusing on > >attracting or gaining interest from Non-racers. As such, we may think it > >silly, trite, condecending etc. But that is just what will grab a

'non-fan' > >and possibly pull him in. So IF Stallone was targeting this non-fan asthe > >primary viewer of the film, it seems he suceeded. > >dave henrie > > Stallone has never turned out a decent movie yet. I abhor the Rocky > series too, Judge Dred was his low point though. Absolutely pathetic > shite.

It looks like Stallone's best driving movie to date will remain "Death Race 2000", one of my all-time faves...8^) J. P. Hovercraft "Forsa Machine-Gun Joe!" "Nos v7.0000001" wrote:

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> On Wed, 02 May 2001 13:22:31 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > > I haven't seen it yet(but I do have an almost free coupon to use/waste) > >so I may. But most of the interviews I've seen has Sly focusing on > >attracting or gaining interest from Non-racers. As such, we may think it > >silly, trite, condecending etc. But that is just what will grab a 'non-fan' > >and possibly pull him in. So IF Stallone was targeting this non-fan as the > >primary viewer of the film, it seems he suceeded. > >dave henrie > > Stallone has never turned out a decent movie yet. I abhor the Rocky > series too, Judge Dred was his low point though. Absolutely pathetic > shite.

erm...that should be "forza"... J. P. Hovercraft Support wrote:

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> It looks like Stallone's best driving movie to date will remain "Death Race > 2000", one of my all-time faves...8^) > > J. P. Hovercraft > "Forsa Machine-Gun Joe!" > > "Nos v7.0000001" wrote: > > > On Wed, 02 May 2001 13:22:31 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> > > wrote: > > > > > I haven't seen it yet(but I do have an almost free coupon to use/waste) > > >so I may. But most of the interviews I've seen has Sly focusing on > > >attracting or gaining interest from Non-racers. As such, we may think it > > >silly, trite, condecending etc. But that is just what will grab a 'non-fan' > > >and possibly pull him in. So IF Stallone was targeting this non-fan as the > > >primary viewer of the film, it seems he suceeded. > > >dave henrie > > > > Stallone has never turned out a decent movie yet. I abhor the Rocky > > series too, Judge Dred was his low point though. Absolutely pathetic > > shite.

erm...that should be "forza"... J. P. Hovercraft Support wrote:

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> It looks like Stallone's best driving movie to date will remain "Death Race > 2000", one of my all-time faves...8^) > > J. P. Hovercraft > "Forza Machine-Gun Joe!" > > "Nos v7.0000001" wrote: > > > On Wed, 02 May 2001 13:22:31 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> > > wrote: > > > > > I haven't seen it yet(but I do have an almost free coupon to use/waste) > > >so I may. But most of the interviews I've seen has Sly focusing on > > >attracting or gaining interest from Non-racers. As such, we may think it > > >silly, trite, condecending etc. But that is just what will grab a 'non-fan' > > >and possibly pull him in. So IF Stallone was targeting this non-fan as the > > >primary viewer of the film, it seems he suceeded. > > >dave henrie > > > > Stallone has never turned out a decent movie yet. I abhor the Rocky > > series too, Judge Dred was his low point though. Absolutely pathetic > > shite.

For me, the major disappointment of the movie was that Sly didn't have a scene with Mr. Fernandez, the driver of the Tecate car, and go "Yo, Aaa-dria-annnn!" Ian Jan Loebzien <[email hidden]> wrote: >Quote: "Either this is a cult classic in the making, or race fans >should avoid it at all costs." >http://www.planet-f1.com/news/article.html/f1/ENG?ref=5942

I didn't think the movie was too bad up until the last race. Then it went down in flames. Of course, I'm more into independent films than hollywood blockbuster. I think CART should have had more say in the filming of the crashes, but it's a fantastic 2 hour CART advertisement. "Jan Loebzien" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Quote: "Either this is a cult classic in the making, or race fans > should avoid it at all costs." > http://www.planet-f1.com/news/article.html/f1/ENG?ref=5942

On Wed, 02 May 2001 19:55:13 GMT, "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Hey, don't be dissin' the Dredd! > >-Larry Probably a Chuck Norris fan too.

Yep $13 million and #1 isn't too bad for an opening weekend for a Sly movie these days. In all fairness Driven had no real competition this weekend. But with Mummy Returns, Swordfish, Pearl Harbor and many other good movies just around the corner I don't think many movies will remain in the #1 slots for more than a week (PH may be the exception to that since it will appeal to a wide target audience of all ages) [email hidden] (Todd Walker) wrote:

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>The movie opened #1. They don't give a rat's arse who the target >audience is -- it succeeded ;-) > >Todd Walker >twalker at jam dot rr dot com >http://twalker.d2g.com > > > >On Wed, 02 May 2001 13:22:31 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> >wrote: > >> I haven't seen it yet(but I do have an almost free coupon to use/waste) >>so I may. But most of the interviews I've seen has Sly focusing on >>attracting or gaining interest from Non-racers. As such, we may think it >>silly, trite, condecending etc. But that is just what will grab a 'non-fan' >>and possibly pull him in. So IF Stallone was targeting this non-fan as the >>primary viewer of the film, it seems he suceeded. >>dave henrie

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Well, um.... :) I get a kick out of Arnold too! I treat movies for what they are. Some are simple brain-candy, like Judge Dredd. I just don't take them seriously and enjoy them for what they are. -Larry "Nos v7.0000001" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Wed, 02 May 2001 19:55:13 GMT, "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Hey, don't be dissin' the Dredd! > > > >-Larry > > Probably a Chuck Norris fan too.

LOL! Ian wrote:

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> > For me, the major disappointment of the movie was that Sly didn't have > a scene with Mr. Fernandez, the driver of the Tecate car, and go "Yo, > Aaa-dria-annnn!" > > Ian > > Jan Loebzien <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Quote: "Either this is a cult classic in the making, or race fans > >should avoid it at all costs." > >http://www.planet-f1.com/news/article.html/f1/ENG?ref=5942

On Thu, 03 May 2001 20:07:36 GMT, "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Well, um.... > >:) > >I get a kick out of Arnold too! > >I treat movies for what they are. Some are simple brain-candy, like Judge >Dredd. I just don't take them seriously and enjoy them for what they are. >

Agree, there are only two kinds of movies, good and bad. Judge Dredd comes under bad. Bad acting, bad story, bad costumes, just plain bad. I guess you just have BAD taste. :-) -- eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip

Who's to say YOU don't have bad taste. Why does your opinion supercede anyone else's? That's the mentality that really pisses me off about these so called movie reviewers. The only person's opinion that truely matters is your own. Judge Dredd was a FUN movie just like Driven was. It certainly won't win any awards but it wasn't meant to - it was a popcorn movie just like ID4, Armageddon, Gone in 60 Seconds, and a hundred other movies that release every year. Nos v7.0000001 <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>On Thu, 03 May 2001 20:07:36 GMT, "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote: > >>Well, um.... >> >>:) >> >>I get a kick out of Arnold too! >> >>I treat movies for what they are. Some are simple brain-candy, like Judge >>Dredd. I just don't take them seriously and enjoy them for what they are. >> > >Agree, there are only two kinds of movies, good and bad. Judge Dredd >comes under bad. Bad acting, bad story, bad costumes, just plain bad. >I guess you just have BAD taste. :-)

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That's interesting...I thought it sucked until the last race. :) They should have kept the street race and the final race, thrown out the rest and charged half the price. Just like with Star Wars Phantom Menace - keep the podracing and chuck everything else. -Phasor "Drew S" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:FM%H6.555$[email hidden]...

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> I didn't think the movie was too bad up until the last race. Then it went > down in flames. Of course, I'm more into independent films than hollywood > blockbuster. I think CART should have had more say in the filming of the > crashes, but it's a fantastic 2 hour CART advertisement. > > "Jan Loebzien" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Quote: "Either this is a cult classic in the making, or race fans > > should avoid it at all costs." > > http://www.planet-f1.com/news/article.html/f1/ENG?ref=5942 > >

On 04 May 2001 14:08:19 GMT, [email hidden] (Sinjin) wrote: >Who's to say YOU don't have bad taste. Why does your opinion supercede anyone >else's? That's the mentality that really pisses me off about these so called >movie reviewers. The only person's opinion that truely matters is your own. Oh, so you want to get serious do you? I'll tell you why I know. BEACAUSE THE MASSES ARE STUPID. They read stupid books, listen to stupid music and like stupid movies. There, does that answer your question clear enough? >Judge Dredd was a FUN movie just like Driven was. Judge Dredd was shit. Sylvester Stallone is a shit actor too. Go read some Camus and get some enlightenment in your life. You are running short. -- eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip

"FUN". That's a good word for it :) Just like "The Demolition Man", which IMHO was the best film Rocky ever made. It was quite entertaining. -Larry "Sinjin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Who's to say YOU don't have bad taste. Why does your opinion supercedeanyone > else's? That's the mentality that really pisses me off about these socalled > movie reviewers. The only person's opinion that truely matters is yourown. > > Judge Dredd was a FUN movie just like Driven was. It certainly won't winany > awards but it wasn't meant to - it was a popcorn movie just like ID4, > Armageddon, Gone in 60 Seconds, and a hundred other movies that releaseevery

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> year. > > > Nos v7.0000001 <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >On Thu, 03 May 2001 20:07:36 GMT, "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > >>Well, um.... > >> > >>:) > >> > >>I get a kick out of Arnold too! > >> > >>I treat movies for what they are. Some are simple brain-candy, like

Judge > >>Dredd. I just don't take them seriously and enjoy them for what theyare.

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> >> > > > >Agree, there are only two kinds of movies, good and bad. Judge Dredd > >comes under bad. Bad acting, bad story, bad costumes, just plain bad. > >I guess you just have BAD taste. :-) > > > -------------------- > Sinjin > www.SinjinSolves.com > Your Guide to Success

It's a matter of taste, people like what they like. Just because your taste is different doesn't mean it's right. Just because you like a niche product it doesn't mean that product is necessarily better (or worse) than what the mass market would prefer. It just means that product is better for you. You may also want to check your spelling before calling people stupid :) -- Ian P <email invalid due to spam> Nos v7.0000001 <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On 04 May 2001 14:08:19 GMT, [email hidden] (Sinjin) wrote: > > >Who's to say YOU don't have bad taste. Why does your opinion supercede anyone > >else's? That's the mentality that really pisses me off about these so called > >movie reviewers. The only person's opinion that truely matters is your own. > > Oh, so you want to get serious do you? I'll tell you why I know. > BEACAUSE THE MASSES ARE STUPID. They read stupid books, listen to > stupid music and like stupid movies. There, does that answer your > question clear enough? > > >Judge Dredd was a FUN movie just like Driven was. > > Judge Dredd was shit. Sylvester Stallone is a shit actor too. Go read > some Camus and get some enlightenment in your life. You are running > short. > > -- > eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format > http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip

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>On 04 May 2001 14:08:19 GMT, [email hidden] (Sinjin) wrote: > >>Who's to say YOU don't have bad taste. Why does your opinion supercede anyone >>else's? That's the mentality that really pisses me off about these so called >>movie reviewers. The only person's opinion that truely matters is your own. > >Oh, so you want to get serious do you? I'll tell you why I know. >BEACAUSE THE MASSES ARE STUPID. They read stupid books, listen to >stupid music and like stupid movies. There, does that answer your >question clear enough? > >>Judge Dredd was a FUN movie just like Driven was. > >Judge Dredd was shit. Sylvester Stallone is a shit actor too. Go read >some Camus and get some enlightenment in your life. You are running >short.

I think I'll pass on the Camus - I'd hate to turn into a flaming butthole like you. I'm glad to know you have risen "above the stupid masses" to reach your demi-god like status. Life must be realling boring for you since musicians, filmmakers, and authors are consistently writing FOR THE MASSES. If they only targetted the elite scholars such as yourself no one would ever turn a profit. And Judge Dredd was still a fun movie (at the time it was made). Now the effects are a bit dated and its ready for the MST3000 treatment. -------------------- Sinjin www.SinjinSolves.com Your Guide to Success

On Fri, 04 May 2001 17:52:47 GMT, "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote: >"FUN". That's a good word for it :) > >Just like "The Demolition Man", which IMHO was the best film Rocky ever >made. It was quite entertaining. > >-Larry I'm surrounded by peons. -- eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip

On Fri, 4 May 2001 18:55:50 +0100, "Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote: >It's a matter of taste, people like what they like.\ Rationalize it anyway you want. The truth is it's a matter of intellect. Hard to admit you have a low intellect, but don't try to bullshit me sonny. >Just because your taste is different doesn't mean it's right. Just because >you like a niche product it doesn't mean that product is necessarily better >(or worse) than what the mass market would prefer. It just means that >product is better for you. > >You may also want to check your spelling before calling people stupid :) Nothing wrong with my spelling, it's my typing that needs work. But, there you go proving your low intellect again. What does one's spelling ability have to do with intellect? I know you can't answer that so don't even bother trying. Peons - sheesh. -- eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip

On 04 May 2001 19:27:33 GMT, [email hidden] (Sinjin) wrote: >I think I'll pass on the Camus - I'd hate to turn into a flaming butthole like >you. I'm glad to know you have risen "above the stupid masses" to reach your >demi-god like status. Life must be realling boring for you since musicians, >filmmakers, and authors are consistently writing FOR THE MASSES. If they only >targetted the elite scholars such as yourself no one would ever turn a profit. Yea, and that's what it's all about you dumbass. The quickest and cheapest way to seperate the masses from their money. >And Judge Dredd was still a fun movie (at the time it was made). Now the >effects are a bit dated and its ready for the MST3000 treatment. Keep telling yourself that. But, just so you peons know the facts. I enjoy movies from most genre's so long as they are well done. Judge Dredd does not fit that criteria. -- eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip

>What does one's >spelling ability have to do with intellect? About as much as which films one enjoys...? -- Cheers! Graeme Nash

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>On Fri, 04 May 2001 17:52:47 GMT, "Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote: > >>"FUN". That's a good word for it :) >> >>Just like "The Demolition Man", which IMHO was the best film Rocky ever >>made. It was quite entertaining. >> >>-Larry > >I'm surrounded by peons.

So leave and go back to sipping tea with your buddies at Mensa. -------------------- Sinjin www.SinjinSolves.com Your Guide to Success

Graeme Nash <[email hidden]> wrote: > >>What does one's >>spelling ability have to do with intellect? > >About as much as which films one enjoys...? Touche' -------------------- Sinjin www.SinjinSolves.com Your Guide to Success

On Sat, 5 May 2001 13:18:49 +0100, Graeme Nash <[email hidden]> wrote: >About as much as which films one enjoys...? The fact I understand that film is an art form and you don't shows you have low intelectual capacity. Move along, I'm finished trifling with people who are an integral part in the dumbing down of America. -- eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip

On 05 May 2001 15:40:17 GMT, [email hidden] (Sinjin) wrote: >>About as much as which films one enjoys...? > >Touche' Touche'??? Are you that dumb? You think he got a one-up-manship on me? Only in your inferior little mind that wouldn't spend two minutes at a film if it was subtitled. Read my response to him for the facts. You neglect to realise that film is an art form and not just some mindless cheap entertainment package. To some people it is their way of comminicating with the world. Geez, you lot are tossers. Truly clueless. Go back to your sim racing and discuss shit you actually know something about. -- eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip

On 05 May 2001 15:39:51 GMT, [email hidden] (Sinjin) wrote: >So leave and go back to sipping tea with your buddies at Mensa. No true intellectual would have anything to do with those wankers at Mensa. Do you not know the difference between intellect and intelligence? Do you think a truly intelligent person would feel the need to show their intelligence by joining an organization like Mensa? Those people are not intellectuals. Two completely different things. Same as ones spelling ability has nothing to do with their intelligence. You can be poorly educated, but still be *very* intelligent. Anyway, you lot are too easy to wind up and I don't want to pummel you all with the truth that you can not accept so I will move along and have that cuppa' afterall. -- eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip

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>"Nos v7.0000001" <[email hidden]> wrote > Touche'??? Are you that dumb? You think he got a one-up-manship on me? > Only in your inferior little mind that wouldn't spend two minutes at a > film if it was subtitled. Read my response to him for the facts. You > neglect to realise that film is an art form and not just some mindless > cheap entertainment package. To some people it is their way of > comminicating with the world. Geez, you lot are tossers. Truly > clueless. Go back to your sim racing and discuss shit you actually > know something about.

Ok easy now, Comic book guy... (hehe just teasing, but cmon chill out I've been there tons of times also) -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

On Sun, 06 May 2001 05:42:48 GMT, [email hidden] (Todd Walker) wrote:

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>Hey Mr. "Too smart for Mensa" guy -- couple of corrections for you... > >>No true intellectual would have anything to do with those wankers at >>Mensa. Do you not know the difference between intellect and >>intelligence? Do you think a truly intelligent person would feel the >>need to show their intelligence by joining an organization like Mensa? >>Those people are not intellectuals. Two completely different things. > >^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ >This is a sentence fragment. > >>Same as ones spelling ability has nothing to do with their > ^^^^ >That should be "one's" -- you forgot the apostrophe. > >Have a lovely day! > > >Todd

You just don't get it do you? What does any of that have to do with what I said? You think education and intelligence are relative? Common misconception of the facist educated elite. Moron. -- eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip

On Sun, 06 May 2001 06:16:05 GMT, "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Ok easy now, Comic book guy... > > > >(hehe just teasing, but cmon chill out I've been there tons of times also) I'm just winding them up. It's like taking candy from a baby. ;-) -- eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip

>The fact I understand that film is an art form and you don't shows you >have low intelectual capacity. Move along, I'm finished trifling with >people who are an integral part in the dumbing down of America. Why don't you consider literature and the written word an art form? It seems to me that that would be an equally good reason to consider someone to have low "intelectual" capacity. Move along yourself Nos, you're no better than anyone else here. Oh, and I'm not American either. I would have expected you to realise that. -- Cheers! Graeme Nash

On Sun, 6 May 2001 11:36:15 +0100, Graeme Nash <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> >>The fact I understand that film is an art form and you don't shows you >>have low intelectual capacity. Move along, I'm finished trifling with >>people who are an integral part in the dumbing down of America. > >Why don't you consider literature and the written word an art form? It >seems to me that that would be an equally good reason to consider >someone to have low "intelectual" capacity.

I already mentioned literature and music. Pay attention please. >Move along yourself Nos, you're no better than anyone else here. Oh, and >I'm not American either. I would have expected you to realise that. Why should I realise it unless I took the time to look at your headers? I just looked and see you are Euro Trash. Heheh. -- eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip

You'll have to try much harder than that to wind me up, especially this weekend as I've just spent a day in Yorkshire driving round in some sporty motorcars, which happened to include a couple of red cars with a prancing horse on the bonnet :)) You can take your intellectual books and stick them where the sun doesn't shine, I'll take fun anyday of the week :) -- Ian P <email invalid due to spam> Nos v7.0000001 <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Sun, 06 May 2001 06:16:05 GMT, "ymenard" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > > >Ok easy now, Comic book guy... > > > > > > > >(hehe just teasing, but cmon chill out I've been there tons of times also) > > I'm just winding them up. It's like taking candy from a baby. ;-) > > -- > eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format > http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip

Nos v7.0000001 <[email hidden]> writes: > Why should I realise it unless I took the time to look at your > headers? I just looked and see you are Euro Trash. Heheh. Spoken like an intellectual. -- -asbjxrn Consultant, n.: An ordinary man a long way from home.

On Sun, 6 May 2001 17:31:40 +0100, "Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote: >You'll have to try much harder than that to wind me up, especially this >weekend as I've just spent a day in Yorkshire driving round in some sporty >motorcars, which happened to include a couple of red cars with a prancing >horse on the bonnet :)) Philistine!!! > You can take your intellectual books and stick them where the sun doesn't >shine, I'll take fun anyday of the week :) And all this because I think Stallone is a crap actor and his movie Judge Dredd is one of the worst movies ever made. Rent the movie and see what you think. -- eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip

On 07 May 2001 03:08:08 +0200, [email hidden] (Asbjørn Bjørnstad) wrote: >Spoken like an intellectual. And were did I say *I* was an intellectual? -- eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip

>"Nos v7.0000001" <[email hidden]> wrote > And all this because I think Stallone is a crap actor and his movie > Judge Dredd is one of the worst movies ever made. Rent the movie and > see what you think. I wouldn't go that far to say "one of the worst". With an IMDB rating of 4.4, there are thousands of movies worse then it. It's just a mistreatment of the comic. It also has the heresy of all heresy, as he takes off his helmet in the movie!!!! @$%#! Hollywood screwing comic fandom another time ;) Let's also remember that this "crap actor" was nominated for BEST ACTOR in 1977. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

On Mon, 07 May 2001 14:19:20 GMT, "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote: >I wouldn't go that far to say "one of the worst". With an IMDB rating of >4.4, there are thousands of movies worse then it. It's just a mistreatment >of the comic. It also has the heresy of all heresy, as he takes off his >helmet in the movie!!!! That's not why I thought it was bad. It just had poor performances all around and was very cheeesy. >Let's also remember that this "crap actor" was nominated for BEST ACTOR in >1977. Strange things happen when something has mass appeal. You told me you think Gladiator is junk and yet it won the acedemy award for best picture. Stallone did do a movie prior to becoming successful where he played a credible role. It's called "The Lords of Flatbush" and he plays the role of a teenage 50's era rocker. The role suited him. -- eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip

Nos v7.0000001 <[email hidden]> writes: > picture. Stallone did do a movie prior to becoming successful where he > played a credible role. It's called "The Lords of Flatbush" and he > plays the role of a teenage 50's era rocker. The role suited him. I kinda liked his performance in Copland. Maybe because it was such an unusual role for him. -- -asbjxrn

Nos v7.0000001 <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Philistine!!! No, I'm British actually, or as you'd say, Euro Scum ;) > > > And all this because I think Stallone is a crap actor and his movie > Judge Dredd is one of the worst movies ever made. Rent the movie and > see what you think. I'd agree that Stallone is a crap actor. I haven't nor do I wish to, see Judge Dredd. Some people have seen it and like it, they also like Stallone, that does not mean they are either less or more intellectual than you or I. They simply have a different taste in movies. Ian P <email invalid due to spam> PS. Sorry about the cheap shot at the spelling, I should have known better :)

ymenard <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:F_5J6.92$[email hidden]... > >"Nos v7.0000001" <[email hidden]> wrote > > Touche'??? Are you that dumb? You think he got a one-up-manship on me? > > Only in your inferior little mind that wouldn't spend two minutes at a > > film if it was subtitled. A big assumption from a big mouth !! MS

Move along, I'm finished trifling with > people who are an integral part in the dumbing down of America. Another big assumption gob almighty. You really think that there is no life beyond the US boundaries? MS > -- > eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format > http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip

On Mon, 7 May 2001 18:29:04 +0100, "Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote: >No, I'm British actually, or as you'd say, Euro Scum ;) It's Euro Trash. I'm British too, but don't tell anyone. >I'd agree that Stallone is a crap actor. I haven't nor do I wish to, see >Judge Dredd. >Some people have seen it and like it, they also like Stallone, that does not >mean they are either less or more intellectual than you or I. They simply >have a different taste in movies. Yea, *bad* taste. That's all I said in the first place and then some twat decided to make an issue out of it. All the rest is just winding you all up. You say I'm not winding you up, if that's true then why did you even bother responding? You took everything I said seriously along with the other tossers in this thread. -- eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip

On Mon, 7 May 2001 18:45:08 +0100, "Mark Seery" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Another big assumption gob almighty. > >You really think that there is no life beyond the US boundaries? > >MS Another sub-dweeb takes the bait. -- eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip

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>OK, let me put it terms that you might understand. > >Kuz whin yoo kant spell, it makes yoo look like a DUMMASS, no madder >howe smart yoo reely r. > >BTW, "fascist" is spelled with an "S." Woohoo! This is fun!!!! > >And thank you for calling me "educated" and "elite." Compliment >accepted. > > >Todd

When people post spelling flames it just shows everyone else that *you* are unimaginative and without the capability of original thought. *This* is too easy. For all your education it didn't help hide your limp wristed idiocy one bit. -- eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip

On Mon, 7 May 2001 18:29:04 +0100, "Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote: >PS. Sorry about the cheap shot at the spelling, I should have known better >:) Todd thinks it's actually an effective form of flaming. Guess he hasn't been on the internet too long. Todd should go wave his hanky elsewhere. -- eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip

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>OK, let me put it terms that you might understand. > >Kuz whin yoo kant spell, it makes yoo look like a DUMMASS, no madder >howe smart yoo reely r. > >BTW, "fascist" is spelled with an "S." Woohoo! This is fun!!!! > >And thank you for calling me "educated" and "elite." Compliment >accepted. > > >Todd

I make a couple of mistakes and that means I can't spell? You ever considered that maybe I'm too busy typing to be bothered with a missing "s" or some other trivial matter? If I want a spell check done then I'll just employ some lacky hanky waver like you. You may know how to spell, but you sure are lacking in the area of creative composition. No mind, the world is full of mediocre monkey clackers, you'll just have to make do with your dull little mind and lead the usual life of watching other people make life interesting for you. -- eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip

On Tue, 08 May 2001 01:30:37 GMT, Nos v7.0000001 <[email hidden]> wrote: >>Some people have seen it and like it, they also like Stallone, that does not >>mean they are either less or more intellectual than you or I. Sure it does. You are what you eat, as they say. In with shit, out with shit. Your choice in music, art, literature, film (amongst other things) has a lot to do with intellect. They are the building blocks of a mind. Not saying one should spend their life watching just serious film, but one shouldn't spend their life filling it with rubbish films like Judge Dredd either. A person who is inclined to read Camus, Sarte, Hesse etc. (and not just becasue they had to at university) would tend to have a higher intellect than one who spends their time reading light weigth novels that serve no purpose other than to entertain. It seems some of you have confused intellect with intelligence. I make a couple of comments about Stallone and his acting abilities and the next thing I know I'm being attacked for my ideas.Remember "Lord Of the Flies"? Well, you boys should leave Piggy alone and lose the mob mentality. -- eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip

Bullocks...just because some airbag tells me the book is a classic...does not make me any smarter. I had to drop a philosophy class because I disagreed with the professor. He said read this very intellectual story and write what it meant to us...I did...he seemed to think he knew what the story should have meant to ME even tho I didn't get ANY of the supposed hidden message. Satre I beleive it was. Pure poppycock. I never claimed to be a wiz but I used to be fairly widely read, however, if I get something completely different out of a story, that shouldn't make me wrong. This bozo...(professor) seemed to think there was only one Possible read to the story. Obviously by my interpretation, he was wrong...but I got the F. Goodbye Mr Satre or whatever his name was...Something about a person walking across a wheat field. Back on the subject...if a person reads deep intellectual stuff, he may EXERCISE his intellect more but it won't make him by definition any smarter, wiser, or more profound. Conversely, If I like Monty Python, does that make me intellectually weaker? dave henrie "Nos v7.0000001" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Tue, 08 May 2001 01:30:37 GMT, Nos v7.0000001 <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > > >>Some people have seen it and like it, they also like Stallone, that doesnot

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> >>mean they are either less or more intellectual than you or I. > > Sure it does. You are what you eat, as they say. In with shit, out > with shit. Your choice in music, art, literature, film (amongst other > things) has a lot to do with intellect. They are the building blocks > of a mind. Not saying one should spend their life watching just > serious film, but one shouldn't spend their life filling it with > rubbish films like Judge Dredd either. A person who is inclined to > read Camus, Sarte, Hesse etc. (and not just becasue they had to at > university) would tend to have a higher intellect than one who spends > their time reading light weigth novels that serve no purpose other > than to entertain. It seems some of you have confused intellect with > intelligence. I make a couple of comments about Stallone and his > acting abilities and the next thing I know I'm being attacked for my > ideas.Remember "Lord Of the Flies"? Well, you boys should leave Piggy > alone and lose the mob mentality. > -- > eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format > http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip

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> > "Medoicre monkey clackers"?????? Now you're just trying to slap a few > words together and hope they sound good. I am becoming VERY > disappointed in you Mr. Nos. You WERE making my life interesting for > me, but you are slipping. BADLY. Oh well, I'll just have to find > someone else. >

Ehm... I think he was referring to a story involving monkeys, typewriters and collected works of Shakespeare, if I'm not mistaken. Not exactly what one would call slapping words together. -Gregor

Monty Python were the ones who took the idea of the theatre of absurd (e.g. Beckett) and took it to the mainstream TV, influencing the way comedy is done for the generations to come. For example, I cannot imagine South Park ever beeing what it is without them. So, no, I wouldn't say watching Monty Python would make you intellectually weaker. But, considering the way you look at the show, I can't say it can make you intellectually stronger either, although it has the potential to do so. -Gregor Dave Henrie wrote: > Conversely, If I like Monty Python, does that make > me intellectually weaker?

Wow, that's three separate replies to my one post, that's got to be a record ! :) As for winding me up, no you didn't, I merely felt like joining in on this thread because I disagreed with your opinion, which I still do. In the same way, I don't believe I am winding you up, you simply replied to my posts because you either agree or disagree with what I then implied. You have no idea how much it takes to really wind me up. You can be sure that when, if you ever do, everyone will know about it. A long fuse leads to large explosion <G> -- Ian P <email invalid due to spam> Nos v7.0000001 <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Mon, 7 May 2001 18:29:04 +0100, "Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > >PS. Sorry about the cheap shot at the spelling, I should have known better > >:) > > Todd thinks it's actually an effective form of flaming. Guess he > hasn't been on the internet too long. Todd should go wave his hanky > elsewhere. > > -- > eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format > http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip

"Nos v7.0000001" <[email hidden]> wrote > >I wouldn't go that far to say "one of the worst". With an IMDB rating of > >4.4, there are thousands of movies worse then it. It's just amistreatment > >of the comic. It also has the heresy of all heresy, as he takes off his > >helmet in the movie!!!! > > That's not why I thought it was bad. It just had poor performances all > around and was very cheeesy. Well I'm a movie geek, so you need to be specific with me ;-) > >Let's also remember that this "crap actor" was nominated for BEST ACTORin

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> >1977. > > Strange things happen when something has mass appeal. You told me you > think Gladiator is junk and yet it won the acedemy award for best > picture. Stallone did do a movie prior to becoming successful where he > played a credible role. It's called "The Lords of Flatbush" and he > plays the role of a teenage 50's era rocker. The role suited him.

True, the Academy Awards aren't really realistic awards, but he was very credible in the original Rocky, it was his own role suited for him. A very well done job, worth his nomination, and worth the best picture award also! -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

>"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote > Bullocks...just because some airbag tells me the book is aclassic...does > not make me any smarter. I had to drop a philosophy class because I > disagreed with the professor. > He said read this very intellectual story and write what it meant tous...I > did...he seemed to think he knew what the story should have meant to MEeven > tho I didn't get ANY of the supposed hidden message. Satre I beleive it > was. Talk about coincidence. Same thing happened this semester in philosophy in College. He phoned me, told he wanted to see me. Situation is, he finds my attitude in my text arrogant and on purpose shocking. He did not want me anymore in his class. I told him that he was a twat (well, in French lol) and left the room. So to resume the situation, it's not because you think you are in intellectual, that you are one. There is no true judge of what is and what is not intellectual. Heck I enjoy Stallone's no-brainer movies, yet on the same night I can easily watch a Godard or a Fellini movie. People who can't enjoy entertainment can't enjoy life. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

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> ymenard <[email hidden]> wrote > > >"Nos v7.0000001" <[email hidden]> wrote > > > Touche'??? Are you that dumb? You think he got a one-up-manship on me? > > > Only in your inferior little mind that wouldn't spend two minutes at a > > > film if it was subtitled. > > A big assumption from a big mouth !!

Errr, just to be sure, I never wrote those above words. You perhaps misquoted the thread ;-) -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

On Tue, 08 May 2001 05:14:38 GMT, [email hidden] (Todd Walker) wrote: >"Medoicre monkey clackers"?????? Oh, you don't know about the million monkeys clacking away at their keyboards? -- eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip

On Tue, 08 May 2001 07:06:45 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> Bullocks...just because some airbag tells me the book is a classic...does >not make me any smarter. I had to drop a philosophy class because I >disagreed with the professor. >He said read this very intellectual story and write what it meant to us...I >did...he seemed to think he knew what the story should have meant to ME even >tho I didn't get ANY of the supposed hidden message. Satre I beleive it >was. >Pure poppycock. I never claimed to be a wiz but I used to be fairly widely >read, however, if I get something completely different out of a story, that >shouldn't make me wrong. This bozo...(professor) seemed to think there was >only one Possible read to the story. Obviously by my interpretation, he was >wrong...but I got the F. Goodbye Mr Satre or whatever his name >was...Something about a person walking across a wheat field. > Back on the subject...if a person reads deep intellectual stuff, he may >EXERCISE his intellect more but it won't make him by definition any smarter, >wiser, or more profound. Conversely, If I like Monty Python, does that make >me intellectually weaker? >dave henrie

I keep saying intellect and intelligence are two seperate things so why do you equate intellect with smart? Monty Python is not low brow humour. Geez, no wonder your prof flunked you. ;-) But yes, art is open to interpretation. Where's the dude that flamed me for my opinion in the first place? He ran long ago. My comments were deliberately arrogant to get his goat. -- eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip

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>Talk about coincidence. Same thing happened this semester in philosophy in >College. He phoned me, told he wanted to see me. Situation is, he finds my >attitude in my text arrogant and on purpose shocking. He did not want me >anymore in his class. I told him that he was a twat (well, in French lol) >and left the room. So to resume the situation, it's not because you think >you are in intellectual, that you are one. There is no true judge of what >is and what is not intellectual. Heck I enjoy Stallone's no-brainer movies, >yet on the same night I can easily watch a Godard or a Fellini movie. >People who can't enjoy entertainment can't enjoy life.

And yet you put down a movie like Gladiator. What a hypocrite. BTW, I've said this twice now, there are only two kinds of movies, good and bad. Meaning I watch all kinds of movies, Terminator=good, Judge Dredd=bad. Simple as that. -- eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip

On Tue, 08 May 2001 14:29:36 GMT, "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Situation is, he finds my attitude in my text arrogant and on purpose shocking. Now what on earth makes him say that, LOL :) Andre

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>-- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> >-- May the Downforce be with you... >-- http://www.ymenard.com/ >-- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez >Corporation - helping America into the New World... > > >

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>Wow, that's three separate replies to my one post, that's got to be a record >! :) > >As for winding me up, no you didn't, I merely felt like joining in on this >thread because I disagreed with your opinion, which I still do. In the same >way, I don't believe I am winding you up, you simply replied to my posts >because you either agree or disagree with what I then implied. >You have no idea how much it takes to really wind me up. You can be sure >that when, if you ever do, everyone will know about it. A long fuse leads to >large explosion <G>

It wasn't an opinion. It was purely a way to piss off someone. ie. wind someone up. -- eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip

>"Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote > >On Tue, 08 May 2001 14:29:36 GMT, "ymenard" <[email hidden]> > > > >Situation is, he finds my attitude in my text arrogant and on purposeshocking. > > Now what on earth makes him say that, LOL :) Yeah I mean geeze, it's not like it's the same here on r.a.s. ! <G> ;) -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

>"Nos v7.0000001" <[email hidden]> wrote > And yet you put down a movie like Gladiator. What a hypocrite. BTW, Because I like some of Stallone's no-brainer movie yet I disliked the badly directed and produced Gladiator (not hated, just found it did not merit anything that it won), I'm an hypocrite? Wow, your opinion is trully *mainstream* <G>. I also said that Freddy Got Fingered is a masterpiece of neo-surrealism, SO? > I've said this twice now, there are only two kinds of movies, good and > bad. Meaning I watch all kinds of movies, Terminator=good, Judge > Dredd=bad. Simple as that. My God, for you Art is either good or bad? It's do or don't? Yes or no? Black or White? You can't even consider a grey zone? Wow, amazing... -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Not you Frank, the troll. MS ymenard <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:yqTJ6.1733$[email hidden]... > "Mark Seery" <[email hidden]> wrote > > ymenard <[email hidden]> wrote > > > >"Nos v7.0000001" <[email hidden]> wrote > > > > Touche'??? Are you that dumb? You think he got a one-up-manship onme? > > > > Only in your inferior little mind that wouldn't spend two minutes ata

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Hate to tell ya bud. A copy of Forte agent and the usual forgeries do not a troll make. You're not even second class :-) MS Nos v7.0000001 <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Mon, 7 May 2001 18:45:08 +0100, "Mark Seery" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > > >Another big assumption gob almighty. > > > >You really think that there is no life beyond the US boundaries? > > > >MS > > Another sub-dweeb takes the bait. > -- > eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format > http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip

Don't mention the troll! ;-) -- Jan. =---- "Pay attention when I'm talking to you boy!" -Foghorn Leghorn. Mark Seery wrote... > Not you Frank, the troll. > > MS

Ok Mr Movie Geek! Here: What movie did Humphrey Bogart & Katharine Hepburn play in? Name there names in the movie, the movie, who wrote the screenplay, year it was made, was it nominated for oscars - if so how many? No cheating looking in a search engine neither...lol Now do it!! <BG> Tic Toc, Tic Toc, Tic Toc.....Cheers Thom_j. Sorry for the "OT" RAS galz & guyz.. The Devil made me do it!! :o)~ "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:sjTJ6.1727$[email hidden]... | Well I'm a movie geek, so you need to be specific with me ;-)

Your words ring true my intuitive friends ymenard and Dave H! I've always liked this quote from Mr A E. "To say who is or is not intellectual will only dispell the concept of intelligence." by -Albert Einstein- Cheers Thom_j. "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:kpTJ6.1732$[email hidden]...

So you are "stating" there are only good and bad movies? There is no in between? Are these facts or just your subjective opinions? Do you view life this way too? A Baffled Thom_j. "Nos v7.0000001" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... | I've said this twice now, there are only two kinds of movies, good and | bad. Meaning I watch all kinds of movies, Terminator=good, Judge | Dredd=bad. Simple as that.

| On Tue, 8 May 2001 13:27:15 +0100, "Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote: | >Wow, that's three separate replies to my one post, that's got to be arecord | >! :) ya` think? | >A long fuse leads to large explosion <G> Dont short ones have large explosion too? <BG> Sorry "Ian" I just couldnt resist....lol Cheers Thom_j.

No, short ones can only have a small explosion or the fuse lighter would probably get blown up, unless of course he's a fast runner ;) -- Ian P <email invalid due to spam> Thom j. <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:RvXJ6.55292$[email hidden]... > | >A long fuse leads to large explosion <G> > > Dont short ones have large explosion too? <BG> > Sorry "Ian" I just couldnt resist....lol > Cheers Thom_j. > >

Touche` Ian...<G> Sadly, My fuse has become very short lately.. Old age I guess? Cheers Thom_j. "Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9d9kir$i9f$[email hidden]... | No, short ones can only have a small explosion or the fuse lighter would | probably get blown up, unless of course he's a fast runner ;) | -- | Ian P | <email invalid due to spam>

>"Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote > Ok Mr Movie Geek! Here: What movie did Humphrey Bogart & Katharine > Hepburn play in? Name there names in the movie, the movie, who wrote the > screenplay, year it was made, was it nominated for oscars - if so howmany? LOL well the names of the movie is enough ;) There's the African Queen, that's an easy one (have the movie at home). There are other movies they were both together? Hmm let's check out IMDB... <tic tic tic> Oh hmmm Road to Bali, yes I remember that movie, had no idea she was in. Oh, uncredited she is. I don't see any other movie. > No cheating looking in a search engine neither...lol Now do it!! <BG> > Tic Toc, Tic Toc, Tic Toc.....Cheers Thom_j. > Sorry for the "OT" RAS galz & guyz.. The Devil made me do it!! :o)~ -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

On Tue, 8 May 2001 12:31:48 -0400, "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Because I like some of Stallone's no-brainer movie yet I disliked the badly >directed and produced Gladiator (not hated, just found it did not merit >anything that it won), I'm an hypocrite? Wow, your opinion is trully >*mainstream* <G>. Well, you are wrong about Gladiator. Oh, and your prof was right. You are arrogant. > >My God, for you Art is either good or bad? It's do or don't? Yes or no? >Black or White? You can't even consider a grey zone? Wow, amazing... Ok. there are three kinds of movies, good, ok and bad. Judge Dredd still falls under bad. But, when you really think about it, you either like something or you don't. If your going to waffle through life then you are a man of no conviction. -- eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip

On Tue, 08 May 2001 19:01:05 GMT, "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote: >So you are "stating" there are only good and bad movies? There is no in >between? Are these facts or just your subjective opinions? Do you view >life this way too? A Baffled Thom_j. Arrrrgh! Fuck this shit! I've had it with all of you. Why don't you all just fuck off! -- eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip

Arrrrgh! *** this shit! I've had it with all of you. Why don't you all just *** off! -- eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip

On Wed, 09 May 2001 06:16:53 GMT, Nos v7.0000001 <[email hidden]> wrote: >Arrrrgh! <beep> this shit! I've had it with all of you. Why don't you >all just <beep> off! Nos, now this is a good moment to go to that Peter Pan site and become happy again :) Andre >-- >eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format >http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip

>"Nos v7.0000001" <[email hidden]> wrote > Well, you are wrong about Gladiator. No, I'm not. Who are you to tell me what's wrong and what's right? That movie was not in my top 10 list of 2000 (but it wasn't a bad movie). It was a below-average work from Ridley Scott. > You are arrogant. You have a naive elitist attitude. Btw, yes I'm arrogant. > Ok. there are three kinds of movies, good, ok and bad. lmao! I've seen it all. You are the complete opposite of pure rational. Everything for you is something specific, it cannot even barely blend between two concepts. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

>"Nos v7.0000001" <[email hidden]> wrote > Arrrrgh! Fuck this shit! I've had it with all of you. Why don't you > all just fuck off! Nice try for an easy escape. That's WebTV-quality... -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

> Arrrrgh! *** this shit! I've had it with all of you. Why don't you > all just *** off! Nice try for an easy escape. That's WebTV-quality... -- -- Fran?ois Mnard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Or the motorhome !! MS <G> Jan Verschueren <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Don't mention the troll! ;-) > > -- > Jan. > =---- > "Pay attention when I'm talking to you boy!" -Foghorn Leghorn. > > Mark Seery wrote... > > Not you Frank, the troll. > > > > MS > >

On Wed, 9 May 2001 08:35:32 -0400, "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote: >>"Nos v7.0000001" <[email hidden]> wrote >> Well, you are wrong about Gladiator. > >No, I'm not. Who are you to tell me what's wrong and what's right? That >movie was not in my top 10 list of 2000 (but it wasn't a bad movie). It was >a below-average work from Ridley Scott. I agree with the last part, but I still think it was a damn good movie (good as in 'entertaining'). I skipped the movie when it run here in the cinema, I didn;t rent it on video, I just thought it would be another boring action movie. Untill a friend of mine showed it to me on dvd with dolby surround.. I sat on the edge of my seat for two hours.. especially the camerawork was absolutely fantastic. Just out of curiosity, and to get even more off-topic, what's your top 10 of 2000? Andre

I didn't mean to Pee you off but {yes there is a but} when you commit to only a 'Yea or Neh' attitude dont you think you are limiting yourself? Please dont mis-understand if this the way you feel it *is* prerogative! Always take our/my subjective questions/comments with a grain of salt Have a nice day... <G>.....Cheers Thom_j. "Nos v7.0000001" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... | On Tue, 08 May 2001 19:01:05 GMT, "Thom j." <[email hidden]> | wrote: | Arrrrgh! Fuck this shit! I've had it with all of you. Why don't you | all just fuck off!

OMG Andre you are a riot!!! Too Funny..lol "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... | On Wed, 09 May 2001 06:16:53 GMT, Nos v7.0000001 <[email hidden]> | wrote:<snipped for the kiddies> | Nos, now this is a good moment to go to that Peter Pan site and become | happy again :) | | Andre

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>"Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote > I agree with the last part, but I still think it was a damn good movie > (good as in 'entertaining'). I skipped the movie when it run here in > the cinema, I didn;t rent it on video, I just thought it would be > another boring action movie. Untill a friend of mine showed it to me > on dvd with dolby surround.. I sat on the edge of my seat for two > hours.. especially the camerawork was absolutely fantastic. > Just out of curiosity, and to get even more off-topic, what's your top > 10 of 2000?

That's the problem. I thought the cinematography was a very lousy job by Ridley, on top of his questionable framing. It was just a lousy job for his caliber, that doesn't mean it's a bad thing. Kinda like Spielberg doing lousy directing on the Lost World. There was some nice moments, but I expected much more from a director who can do perfect framing jobs (Blade Runner!). It's a nice escapist movie, lots of fun if you forget about the anachronisms :) I did not agree with the Academy, but it's has always been a popularity contest. In over 20 years I've agreed with their best picture choice 3times only (84, 92, 93) Top 10 of 2000? 1-Dancer in the Dark 2-Memento 3-Maelstr�m 4-Amores Perros 5-Wo hu Zang Long (CT,HD) 6-Traffic 7-Wonder Boys 8-15 f�vrier 1839 9-American Psycho 10-Shadow of the Vampire Some of them are international movies, you probably never seen them (3 and 8 especially as they are from Qu�bec) -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

On Tue, 8 May 2001 17:39:31 +0100, "Mark Seery" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Hate to tell ya bud. A copy of Forte agent and the usual forgeries do not a >troll make. You're not even second class :-) Forgeries? I've made no forgeries. If they are second rate then that doesn't say much for all you twats replying then does it? I've even said, more than once, that I was winding someone up, and yet you all still reply. Doh! I'm a r.a.s'er and my brain hurts. -- eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip

On Wed, 09 May 2001 08:14:41 GMT, [email hidden] (Andre Warringa) wrote: >Nos, now this is a good moment to go to that Peter Pan site and become >happy again :) > >Andre Nah, he's too weird, even for me. I just switched to an alter-nick. Feel like a whole new person. -- eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip

On Wed, 09 May 2001 19:19:45 GMT, "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote: >I didn't mean to Pee you off but {yes there is a but} when you commit >to only a 'Yea or Neh' attitude dont you think you are limiting yourself? >Please dont mis-understand if this the way you feel it *is* prerogative! >Always take our/my subjective questions/comments with a grain of salt >Have a nice day... <G>.....Cheers Thom_j. > Take it as you like. You don't really know how I mean it and I'm not about to bother explaining. Let's just say you are not me and therefore don't have a clue as to what my true beliefs are. How I represent myself on usenet from time to time are not always representative of me. I should put that as a disclaimer in all my posts maybe. "All the world's a stage, And all the men and women merely players" -- eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip

On Tue, 8 May 2001 13:27:15 +0100, "Ian P" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Wow, that's three separate replies to my one post, that's got to be a record >! :) > >As for winding me up, no you didn't, I merely felt like joining in on this >thread because I disagreed with your opinion, BUT, it's not my opinion. I'm winding you up remember? -- eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip

On Wed, 09 May 2001 06:26:00 GMT, [email hidden] (Todd Walker) wrote:

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>Spoken like a true 14 year old ;-) >Don't go Nos! You're fun! > > > >Todd

Damn Todd, your responses are so predictable.You have a "Big Book of Classic Flames" in front of you or what? -- eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip

AahHaa Mr Nos aka Jagg ...lol So you have been playing a bit of mind game with us poor fools.....eh?? hahaha Touche`then!! <G> Btw: I like Jagg better then ur old nick.. :o)~ Thom_j. "All the world's a stage, And all mankind are merely players" "Jagg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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| Take it as you like. You don't really know how I mean it and I'm not | about to bother explaining. Let's just say you are not me and | therefore don't have a clue as to what my true beliefs are. How I | represent myself on usenet from time to time are not always | representative of me. I should put that as a disclaimer in all my | posts maybe. "All the world's a stage, | And all the men and women merely players"

On Wed, 09 May 2001 21:33:29 GMT, "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Top 10 of 2000? > >1-Dancer in the Dark >2-Memento >3-Maelstr�m >4-Amores Perros >5-Wo hu Zang Long (CT,HD) >6-Traffic >7-Wonder Boys >8-15 f�vrier 1839 >9-American Psycho >10-Shadow of the Vampire > > >Some of them are international movies, you probably never seen them (3 and 8 >especially as they are from Qu�bec)

CTHD and Traffic are fantastic indeed, Memento is on my need-to-see-this-badly list, but I haven't even heard of the rest :) But movies are released here much later than in the states so they will probably be shown here later. I'll add them to my need-to-see-these-badly list, thx :) Andre

On Thu, 10 May 2001 06:16:34 GMT, [email hidden] (Todd Walker) wrote:

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>No actually it's just his way of trying to back away from his earlier, >immature and unreasonable comments. He doesn't have the balls to stick >to his guns. If you are an asshole, fine. At least be consistent >though. > > >Todd >

Believe what you will. Makes no dif to me. Especially coming from a man of such mediocrity. -- eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip

On Thu, 10 May 2001 06:14:57 GMT, [email hidden] (Todd Walker) wrote: >Actually right now I have a jar of peanut butter and a package of >saltines in front of me. > >Now, that wasn't predictable was it? ;-) > > No, just disgusting. -- eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip

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> > Top 10 of 2000? > > 1-Dancer in the Dark > 2-Memento > 3-Maelstr�m > 4-Amores Perros > 5-Wo hu Zang Long (CT,HD) > 6-Traffic > 7-Wonder Boys > 8-15 f�vrier 1839 > 9-American Psycho > 10-Shadow of the Vampire

Good list, but what about "Oh Brother, Where Art Thou?" ? Dave Ewing -- ***************************************************** David A. Ewing Xilinx Boulder [email hidden] *****************************************************

On Thu, 10 May 2001 10:09:30 -0600, David Ewing <[email hidden]> wrote: > >Good list, but what about "Oh Brother, Where Art Thou?" ? > >Dave Ewing Notice he's got two Qeubecois movies in the top ten. Can you say biased? -- eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip

>"Nos" <[email hidden]> wrote > Notice he's got two Qeubecois movies in the top ten. Can you say > biased? How can that be biased? I go see movies from all over the world (note that 4-5 movies in that list are not *American* movies). But since I live in Qu�bec, movies from where I live are easily accessible to the viewers. Like American movies for Americans. Like German movies in Germany. Like Italian movies in Italy. I watched many and those two stand upon my top 10 list. Why? Because in the society in which I live, they affected me. Like Dancer in the Dark affected me, or CTHD. Why are you trolling? It's "Quebecois", btw. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

>"David Ewing" <[email hidden]> wrote > Good list, but what about "Oh Brother, Where Art Thou?" ? Well he asked to list 10 movies, but there were quite more then 10 great movies in 2000, that one included ;-D -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

>"Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote > CTHD and Traffic are fantastic indeed, Memento is on my > need-to-see-this-badly list, but I haven't even heard of the rest :) Dancer in the Dark is an excellent movie, directed by the great Lars von Trier and featuing Bj�rk and Catherine Deneuve. It won the Golden Palm at Cannes last year. It's out on DVD now in the US, you should really check it out if you like movies. It's not a mainstream movie, but it's really amazing. And Bj�rk, what can I say more! (hmmmmmm!). Wonder Boys, American Psycho and Shadow of the Vampire are American movies released last year, they should all be available in VHS/DVD now. Really all quality movies to rent. > But movies are released here much later than in the states so they > will probably be shown here later. I'll add them to my > need-to-see-these-badly list, thx :) Yeah, in my list there is still 3 movies that are shown in the US presently. It just takes more time to the American public to reach out to other movies. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

On Thu, 10 May 2001 22:16:30 GMT, "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote: >How can that be biased? I go see movies from all over the world (note that >4-5 movies in that list are not *American* movies). But since I live in >Québec, movies from where I live are easily accessible to the viewers. Yea, and they are mostly pretentious, how artsy can we be if we try really hard movies. You slag Gladiator, but put this stuff on a pedestal? They use those movies for filler on TMN late at night. -- eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip

>"Nos" <[email hidden]> wrote > >How can that be biased? I go see movies from all over the world (notethat > >4-5 movies in that list are not *American* movies). But since I live in > >Qu�bec, movies from where I live are easily accessible to the viewers. > > Yea, and they are mostly pretentious, how artsy can we be if we try > really hard movies. You slag Gladiator, but put this stuff on a > pedestal? They use those movies for filler on TMN late at night. Because a movie is not made in America, they are pretentious? My god, you need some help, FAST! Have you seen the movies in my list? How can you judge them! THey are found on a good majority of movie lovers (you know... ART movies, not mainstream commercial movies) -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Because to most Yanks like me...ART = pretentious I was blown away by CTHD and not much else lately. The only movie I'm looking forward to is the Christmas release of the first part of Lord Of The Rings. dave henrie "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:iKaL6.16346$h%[email hidden]... > >"Nos" <[email hidden]> wrote > > >How can that be biased? I go see movies from all over the world (note > that > > >4-5 movies in that list are not *American* movies). But since I livein

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On Sat, 12 May 2001 09:18:20 -0400, "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Because a movie is not made in America, they are pretentious? My god, you >need some help, FAST! Have you seen the movies in my list? How can you >judge them! THey are found on a good majority of movie lovers (you know... >ART movies, not mainstream commercial movies) I don't watch movies that require me to read text because I can't spell too well. -- eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip