N4 and new pc

I'm thinking about upgrading my computer, and wondering how much framerate you guys think I'd get in Nascar4 if I get this new rig: starting with an Athlon Thunderbird 1.2Ghz o'clocked to 1.5, VisionTek Geforce3, 256mb cas2 ram, Iwill KK-266 motherboard, etc... ps, I had a gateway 300mhz with TNT1 card

>"Juice" <[email hidden]> wrote > I'm thinking about upgrading my computer, and wondering how much framerate > you guys think I'd get in Nascar4 if I get this new rig: starting with an > Athlon Thunderbird 1.2Ghz o'clocked to 1.5, VisionTek Geforce3, 256mb cas2 > ram, Iwill KK-266 motherboard, etc... Errrrr, 50+ fps all the time with everything on. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

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> I'm thinking about upgrading my computer, and wondering how much framerate > you guys think I'd get in Nascar4 if I get this new rig: starting with an > Athlon Thunderbird 1.2Ghz o'clocked to 1.5, VisionTek Geforce3, 256mb cas2 > ram, Iwill KK-266 motherboard, etc... > > ps, I had a gateway 300mhz with TNT1 card > >

I would not take a geforce 3 but a geforce 2. You will not see a difference in frame rate as cpu power is more important. But you will save a lot of money. Pascal.

Good point. Especially if you mainly play racing games. Unless you play first person shooters like Quake3 or Tribes 2, stick with the GF2. -Tim "Pascal Dukers" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:rbTK6.41136$[email hidden]... > > "Juice" <[email hidden]> schreef in bericht > news:dHHK6.3495$[email hidden]... > > I'm thinking about upgrading my computer, and wondering how muchframerate > > you guys think I'd get in Nascar4 if I get this new rig: starting withan > > Athlon Thunderbird 1.2Ghz o'clocked to 1.5, VisionTek Geforce3, 256mbcas2

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> > ram, Iwill KK-266 motherboard, etc... > > > > ps, I had a gateway 300mhz with TNT1 card > > > > > > I would not take a geforce 3 but a geforce 2. You will not see a

difference > in frame rate as cpu power is more important. But you will save a lot of > money. > > Pascal. > >

ummmm, all of them? Seriously, I run an Athlon 1.1 with a Radeon 64 Meg DDR VIVO and get around 40 fps on the superspeedways, everything max'ed. Nice system by the way Russ "Juice" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:dHHK6.3495$[email hidden]...

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> I'm thinking about upgrading my computer, and wondering how much framerate > you guys think I'd get in Nascar4 if I get this new rig: starting with an > Athlon Thunderbird 1.2Ghz o'clocked to 1.5, VisionTek Geforce3, 256mb cas2 > ram, Iwill KK-266 motherboard, etc... > > ps, I had a gateway 300mhz with TNT1 card > >

For all the slack I've caught for buying a P4 I have to return the favor and tell you that the AMD 1.2 and 1.33's run hotter than anything ever created. Might as well hook an element up to it and bake a cake in your case. Seriously though buy atleast 3 case fans for it my friend has 5 fans in his case and still isnt happy w/ the temp. He's tried a few different cpu heatsink/fans still the same though. Then he bought a better power supply thinking that maybe it wasnt getting enough current. Nope.... Then he tried another chip.. same deal then he bought a 1.33 chip, same deal lol. Now he's got a full tower with Hard drives in the 51/4 bays far away from the motherboard....Did someone say Kryotech? lol. I built my P4 and have been using it happily 8 fps slower than a 1.2amd @1.5. (yes same vid card etc.) So instead of 80fps@1280x960 I get 72fps and using a chip that is 20*C cooler than the AMD.. w/o extra fans and bigger cases etc. I guess you really do get what you pay for. Charlie Happy and proud P4-1.4 (@1.6 when needed) owner 8^P Russell D. Laughlin Jr. <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Y_1L6.65570$[email hidden]...

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> ummmm, all of them? Seriously, I run an Athlon 1.1 with a Radeon 64 Meg > DDR VIVO and get around 40 fps on the superspeedways, everything max'ed. > Nice system by the way > > Russ > > > > "Juice" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:dHHK6.3495$[email hidden]... > > I'm thinking about upgrading my computer, and wondering how much

framerate > > you guys think I'd get in Nascar4 if I get this new rig: starting withan > > Athlon Thunderbird 1.2Ghz o'clocked to 1.5, VisionTek Geforce3, 256mbcas2

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> > ram, Iwill KK-266 motherboard, etc... > > > > ps, I had a gateway 300mhz with TNT1 card > > > > > > >

A 40,000btu window a/c in a full tower might work? <g> "Charlie B" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:xm5L6.3526$[email hidden]... | thinking that maybe it wasnt getting enough current. Nope.... Then hetried

On Sat, 12 May 2001 07:11:25 GMT, "Charlie B" <[email hidden]> wrote: > I get 72fps and using a chip that is 20*C >cooler than the AMD.. w/o extra fans and bigger cases etc. I guess you >really do get what you pay for. 20c lower? What is your cpu temp under load? -- eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip

highest ive seen during N4 or otherwise is 109*f. Right after bootup it shows 114.. but it falls whether or not I start a program. Charlie B Jagg <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Sat, 12 May 2001 07:11:25 GMT, "Charlie B" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > > I get 72fps and using a chip that is 20*C > >cooler than the AMD.. w/o extra fans and bigger cases etc. I guess you > >really do get what you pay for. > > 20c lower? What is your cpu temp under load? > -- > eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format > http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip

On Sun, 13 May 2001 07:18:49 GMT, "Charlie B" <[email hidden]> wrote: >highest ive seen during N4 or otherwise is 109*f. Right after bootup it >shows 114.. but it falls whether or not I start a program. > >Charlie B 109f is not 20c lower than the average T-Bird temp would run at. My T-bird @1.380ghz runs about 8-10c higher than my P3 800 did. T-Birds are rated to 95c core, Pentium 3 I believe is rated to 70c. -- eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip

Sorry to burst our bubble but my P4 runs alot cooler than my PIII800 and 700. 18.5*C cooler to be exact. thats 33*F. All systems are using standard heatsink/fan, same vid card and operating system. If you want screen shots of the comparisons between systems i'll be glad to put em up on the web. Enjoy your Easy Bake oven.... "Ding" Charlie Jagg <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Sun, 13 May 2001 07:18:49 GMT, "Charlie B" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >highest ive seen during N4 or otherwise is 109*f. Right after bootup it > >shows 114.. but it falls whether or not I start a program. > > > >Charlie B > > 109f is not 20c lower than the average T-Bird temp would run at. My > T-bird @1.380ghz runs about 8-10c higher than my P3 800 did. T-Birds > are rated to 95c core, Pentium 3 I believe is rated to 70c. > > -- > eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format > http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip >

BTW if you think that a a processor can come even close to running for any period of time your wrong. The AMD's have to have the higher rated core temp because their avg. temp is that much higher. Charlie Jagg <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Sun, 13 May 2001 07:18:49 GMT, "Charlie B" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >highest ive seen during N4 or otherwise is 109*f. Right after bootup it > >shows 114.. but it falls whether or not I start a program. > > > >Charlie B > > 109f is not 20c lower than the average T-Bird temp would run at. My > T-bird @1.380ghz runs about 8-10c higher than my P3 800 did. T-Birds > are rated to 95c core, Pentium 3 I believe is rated to 70c. > > -- > eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format > http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip >

On Mon, 14 May 2001 08:26:56 GMT, "Charlie B" <[email hidden]> wrote: > BTW if you think that a a processor can come even close to running for >any period of time your wrong. The AMD's have to have the higher rated core >temp because their avg. temp is that much higher. > > Charlie Could you post that first part again? As it is now it doesn't make much sense. Are you saying that running at 95c for any length of time? All I'm saying is the T-Bird is designed to be able to run hotter so just because it runs 10c hotter than a P3 doesn't mean there is a problem or a problem will be encountered. 95c is it's maximum limit so of course you can't run it at that temp for a long length of time. None run at that temp either. -- eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip

Not quite sure I understand why the cpu temp is even an issue. If a standard AMD Tbird cpu runs hotter than a standard P4 cpu, who cares? Shouldn't the question be which chip runs programs faster?? A Porsche engine runs hotter than a Ford engine but I'll take the Porsche thank you! -Tim "Charlie B" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:kFML6.1782$[email hidden]... > BTW if you think that a a processor can come even close to running for > any period of time your wrong. The AMD's have to have the higher ratedcore

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> temp because their avg. temp is that much higher. > > Charlie > > > Jagg <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > On Sun, 13 May 2001 07:18:49 GMT, "Charlie B" <[email hidden]> > > wrote: > > > > >highest ive seen during N4 or otherwise is 109*f. Right after bootup it > > >shows 114.. but it falls whether or not I start a program. > > > > > >Charlie B > > > > 109f is not 20c lower than the average T-Bird temp would run at. My > > T-bird @1.380ghz runs about 8-10c higher than my P3 800 did. T-Birds > > are rated to 95c core, Pentium 3 I believe is rated to 70c. > > > > -- > > eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format > > http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip > > > >

On Mon, 14 May 2001 15:45:09 -0700, "Tim Miser" <[email hidden]> wrote: >A Porsche engine runs hotter than a Ford engine but I'll take the Porsche >thank you! > >-Tim Good analogy. -- eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip

ah yes...but what is he putting the Porche engine into?? Does he have sufficient air cooling??? dave henrie "Jagg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Mon, 14 May 2001 15:45:09 -0700, "Tim Miser" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > > >A Porsche engine runs hotter than a Ford engine but I'll take the Porsche > >thank you! > > > >-Tim > > Good analogy. > > -- > eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format > http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip

Of course....I'm using one of those 7000 rpm black label fans! "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:lFkM6.7905$[email hidden]...

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> ah yes...but what is he putting the Porche engine into?? Does he have > sufficient air cooling??? > dave henrie > "Jagg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > On Mon, 14 May 2001 15:45:09 -0700, "Tim Miser" <[email hidden]> > > wrote: > > > > > > >A Porsche engine runs hotter than a Ford engine but I'll take the

Porsche

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> > >thank you! > > > > > >-Tim > > > > Good analogy. > > > > -- > > eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format > > http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip > >

On Wed, 16 May 2001 11:24:56 -0700, "Tim Miser" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Of course....I'm using one of those 7000 rpm black label fans Me too. Actually, mine has an rpm controller card so I can set it to what I like. I run it at max though. -- eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip