GPL clock runs @ 2X - Help

I recently built a new machine and have a problem with GPL. The game clock just runs too fast. The timer in practice mode only takes 34 seconds real time for a full minute of game time. Needless to say, this is difficult to drive. This is with patch 1.2, with or without the D3D patch. Prior to installing the 1.2 patch, version 1.0 appeared to run even a little faster. The system is a 1.7 P4 with a GForce 3. I am running WinMe. I have read on some other forums about the N4 Demo causing similiar GPL problems. I had installed and patched the full N4 prior to installing GPL. I uninstalled everything and made sure all of the papy*.sys files were removed from the win\system32\driver directory. Fresh install of the game does not help. Fresh format without installing N4 doesn't help. DX7 vs DX8 - same behavior. Gforce 2 vs Gforce 3 doesn't help. I have seen some older vague references to this problem around the web but no solutions. I have installed GPL several times over the years in my systems and I have never seen this problem before. Anyone have any ideas on this one? Thanks, Robert

Robert, The only thing I can say is ME TOO. I also built a P4 1.7 gig hz. machine and see the same results. the funny thing is the ( Alt F ) Key says 7- 8 FPS full detail 1600/1200 and max on everything including sound. I used the Gforce 3 card with no problems before I hooked up the 1.7 P4, It has to be the cpu causing the problem. Good luck George Barton On Sun, 13 May 2001 11:57:43 -0400, "Robert Roschen" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>I recently built a new machine and have a problem with GPL. The game clock >just runs too fast. The timer in practice mode only takes 34 seconds real >time for a full minute of game time. Needless to say, this is difficult to >drive. This is with patch 1.2, with or without the D3D patch. Prior to >installing the 1.2 patch, version 1.0 appeared to run even a little faster. >The system is a 1.7 P4 with a GForce 3. I am running WinMe. I have read on >some other forums about the N4 Demo causing similiar GPL problems. I had >installed and patched the full N4 prior to installing GPL. I uninstalled >everything and made sure all of the papy*.sys files were removed from the >win\system32\driver directory. Fresh install of the game does not help. >Fresh format without installing N4 doesn't help. DX7 vs DX8 - same >behavior. Gforce 2 vs Gforce 3 doesn't help. I have seen some older vague >references to this problem around the web but no solutions. > >I have installed GPL several times over the years in my systems and I have >never seen this problem before. Anyone have any ideas on this one? > >Thanks, Robert > > > >

Thanks for the input. I know 2 people running 1.5 P4 machines with no problem. 1 is a Dell machine, the other is an Asus P4T mobo. Both are using WinMe. I am using the P4T with the 1004 BIOS. I tried the 1005 beta BIOS with no change. Which motherboard are you using? I have posted on some GPL forums but I have not gotten any positive responses. Robert "Key Bored" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Robert, > > The only thing I can say is ME TOO. I also built a P4 1.7 gig hz. > machine and see the same results. the funny thing is the ( Alt F ) > Key says 7- 8 FPS full detail 1600/1200 and max on everything > including sound. > > I used the Gforce 3 card with no problems before I hooked up the 1.7 > P4, It has to be the cpu causing the problem. > > Good luck > George Barton

On Sun, 13 May 2001 17:51:50 -0400, "Robert Roschen" <[email hidden]> wrote: I also run ME. I have a Supermicro P4STA motherboard.. Looks like we may have a problem :( I already missed one league race. Don't guess we can count on Sierra to help much either. George

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>Thanks for the input. I know 2 people running 1.5 P4 machines with no >problem. 1 is a Dell machine, the other is an Asus P4T mobo. Both are >using WinMe. I am using the P4T with the 1004 BIOS. I tried the 1005 beta >BIOS with no change. Which motherboard are you using? I have posted on >some GPL forums but I have not gotten any positive responses. > >Robert > >"Key Bored" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> Robert, >> >> The only thing I can say is ME TOO. I also built a P4 1.7 gig hz. >> machine and see the same results. the funny thing is the ( Alt F ) >> Key says 7- 8 FPS full detail 1600/1200 and max on everything >> including sound. >> >> I used the Gforce 3 card with no problems before I hooked up the 1.7 >> P4, It has to be the cpu causing the problem. >> >> Good luck >> George Barton > > >

"Robert Roschen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9dmarb$uv$[email hidden]... > I recently built a new machine and have a problem with GPL. The game clock > just runs too fast. This drove me nuts a couple of months ago, using voodoo 3 on Windows 2000 server. The solution for me was to install an older voodoo driver, the one that ships with 2000. The beta voodoo drivers were the problem. Ian x's to e's to reply.

Well I had a simular problem after uprading to a PIII 933. and voodoo5. I had tweaked AI files installed in the game with all the patches and latest drivers and w98se. Changing back to the original AI files from the gpl cd-rom solved the problem for me. Succes Alex. >

"Robert Roschen" wrote... > I recently built a new machine and have a problem with GPL. The game clock > just runs too fast. The timer in practice mode only takes 34 seconds real > time for a full minute of game time. Needless to say, this is difficult to > drive. This is with patch 1.2, with or without the D3D patch. Prior to > installing the 1.2 patch, version 1.0 appeared to run even a littlefaster. > The system is a 1.7 P4 with a GForce 3. I am running WinMe. I have readon > some other forums about the N4 Demo causing similiar GPL problems. I had > installed and patched the full N4 prior to installing GPL. I uninstalled > everything and made sure all of the papy*.sys files were removed from the > win\system32\driver directory. Fresh install of the game does not help. > Fresh format without installing N4 doesn't help. DX7 vs DX8 - same > behavior. Gforce 2 vs Gforce 3 doesn't help. I have seen some oldervague > references to this problem around the web but no solutions. > > I have installed GPL several times over the years in my systems and I have > never seen this problem before. Anyone have any ideas on this one? >FWIW I just tried installing the GPL demo (9 March 98. Really?) on my 1.4G Athlon system and that's the same, even running software emulation. -- Tony Whitley GPLRank +1.02 "On some laps I'd get as many as fifteen corners really right, but Moss, he gets them all right on every lap" - Von Trips after the 1961 German Grand Prix.

I got this off of the Sierra Race Simulator Forum: "Grant Reeve from Papy, the guy who made the d3d patch, was on VROC tonight.. GPL does NOT work on a 1.7 gig and probably never will.. They fixed the problems with 1.7 cpu's for N4, but doing so for GPL would take way to much time and papy probably won't spend this time anymore on GPL" I am bumming....... Robert

In article <9dq344$l4c$[email hidden]>, "Robert Roschen" <[email hidden]> writes: >I got this off of the Sierra Race Simulator Forum: > >"Grant Reeve from Papy, the guy who made the d3d patch, was on VROC >tonight.. GPL does NOT work on a 1.7 gig and probably never will.. They >fixed the problems with 1.7 cpu's for N4, but doing so for GPL would take >way to much time and papy probably won't spend this time anymore on GPL" Well, I probably won't get to 1.7 gig for another TWO computers... Sorry about your problems, though. Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +25.37...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Does this mean 1.7 and beyond or just something peculiar about the 1.7?? And any idea why it is a problem? Marc. "Robert Roschen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9dq344$l4c$[email hidden]...

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> I got this off of the Sierra Race Simulator Forum: > > "Grant Reeve from Papy, the guy who made the d3d patch, was on VROC > tonight.. GPL does NOT work on a 1.7 gig and probably never will.. They > fixed the problems with 1.7 cpu's for N4, but doing so for GPL would take > way to much time and papy probably won't spend this time anymore on GPL" > > I am bumming....... > Robert > > > > >

Marc Collins wrote ... > Does this mean 1.7 and beyond or just something peculiar > about the 1.7?? And any idea why it is a problem? > > Marc. Furthermore, is this limited to Intel CPU's or do AMD ones suffer from the same problem? I'd like to keep GPL up and running even after my next upgrade. Jan. =--- "Pay attention when I'm talking to you boy!" -Foghorn Leghorn.

"Jan Verschueren" wrote...

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> Marc Collins wrote ... > > Does this mean 1.7 and beyond or just something peculiar > > about the 1.7?? And any idea why it is a problem? > > > > Marc. > > Furthermore, is this limited to Intel CPU's or do AMD ones suffer from the > same problem? > > I'd like to keep GPL up and running even after my next upgrade. > > Jan.

An educated guess is that all 1.7 GHz (and greater) machines are too quick and something is breaking down in the software. It means we'll have to go back to "Turbo" buttons like we had in the PC AT days to support games written for slower processors :-) Alternatively, I wonder if something like MO'SLO.COM (which slows the processor down by adding cycles) would do the trick? -- Tony Whitley GPLRank -0.16 "On some laps I'd get as many as fifteen corners really right, but Moss, he gets them all right on every lap" - Von Trips after the 1961 German Grand Prix.

By the way I read it, I am assuming this means 1.7 and beyond. I think your question is valid and the statement could be interpreted other ways. Robert "Marc Collins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:312M6.34485$[email hidden]...

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> Does this mean 1.7 and beyond or just something peculiar about the 1.7?? > And any idea why it is a problem? > > Marc. > > > "Robert Roschen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:9dq344$l4c$[email hidden]... > > I got this off of the Sierra Race Simulator Forum: > > > > "Grant Reeve from Papy, the guy who made the d3d patch, was on VROC > > tonight.. GPL does NOT work on a 1.7 gig and probably never will.. They > > fixed the problems with 1.7 cpu's for N4, but doing so for GPL would

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> > way to much time and papy probably won't spend this time anymore on GPL" > > > > I am bumming....... > > Robert > > > > > > > > > > > >

I wonder if even MOslow could handle the speeds the cpus are reaching these days.. dave henrie "Tony Whitley" <[email hidden]. c o . u k> An educated guess is that all 1.7 GHz (and greater) machines are too quick

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> and something is breaking down in the software. It means we'll have to go > back to "Turbo" buttons like we had in the PC AT days to support games > written for slower processors :-) > > Alternatively, I wonder if something like MO'SLO.COM (which slows the > processor down by adding cycles) would do the trick? > > -- > Tony Whitley > GPLRank -0.16

GPLrank....uhmmmmlots more than Tony's

I wonder if even MOslow could handle the speeds the cpus are reaching these days.. dave henrie is that all 1.7 GHz (and greater) machines are too quick GPLrank....uhmmmmlots more than Tony's