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GPL Frame Rate Hits

13 posts by 8 people · 14 May 2001 15:22 UTC - 16 May 2001 01:08 UTC

Gennarelli 14 May 2001 15:22 UTC#185605
I've been getting frame rate hits when I play GPL. The frame rate goes from a solid 36fps to 33fps. It doesn't seem like much of a hit but it happens about every 5 to 7 seconds. It really screws you when racing. It happens online and offline. I haven't had this problem before. I've haven't added anything new. Just started happening. My system: PIII 600 256 ram V3 3000 (latest drivers) SbLive Direct X 8 (latest) Logitech Wingman FF wheel TSW pedals Windows 98se I use Enditall to close all the programs I don't need. Any ideas? thanks, Chris G.
Have you got vsync enabled? that could be your problem either switch it off in the voodoo properties or set your monitors refresh rate to a multiple of 36 e.g. 72khz. Alex "Gennarelli" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:1LSL6.23658$[email hidden]... > I've been getting frame rate hits when I play GPL. The frame rate goesfrom
Quoted text (22 lines)> a solid 36fps to 33fps. It doesn't seem like much of a hit but it happens > about every 5 to 7 seconds. It really screws you when racing. It happens > online and offline. I haven't had this problem before. I've haven't added > anything new. Just started happening. My system: > > PIII 600 > 256 ram > V3 3000 (latest drivers) > SbLive > Direct X 8 (latest) > Logitech Wingman FF wheel > TSW pedals > Windows 98se > > I use Enditall to close all the programs I don't need. Any ideas? > > > thanks, > > Chris G. > >
I have vsync disabled. Also, I can only set my refresh rate to 60,70,75,85,100,120,optimal and adapter default. I have it set to optimal. Alex Cameron <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:brTL6.176837$[email hidden]... > Have you got vsync enabled? that could be your problem either switch itoff > in the voodoo properties or set your monitors refresh rate to a multipleof
Quoted text (9 lines)> 36 e.g. 72khz. > > Alex > > "Gennarelli" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:1LSL6.23658$[email hidden]... > > I've been getting frame rate hits when I play GPL. The frame rate goes > from > > a solid 36fps to 33fps. It doesn't seem like much of a hit but it
happens > > about every 5 to 7 seconds. It really screws you when racing. It happens > > online and offline. I haven't had this problem before. I've haven'tadded
Quoted text (21 lines)> > anything new. Just started happening. My system: > > > > PIII 600 > > 256 ram > > V3 3000 (latest drivers) > > SbLive > > Direct X 8 (latest) > > Logitech Wingman FF wheel > > TSW pedals > > Windows 98se > > > > I use Enditall to close all the programs I don't need. Any ideas? > > > > > > thanks, > > > > Chris G. > > > > > >
Also, I get the frame rates hits and the car is not even moving. I sit in the pits and watch the frame rate. It takes the hit to 33fps just sitting there. Chris G. Gennarelli <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:1LSL6.23658$[email hidden]... > I've been getting frame rate hits when I play GPL. The frame rate goesfrom
Quoted text (22 lines)> a solid 36fps to 33fps. It doesn't seem like much of a hit but it happens > about every 5 to 7 seconds. It really screws you when racing. It happens > online and offline. I haven't had this problem before. I've haven't added > anything new. Just started happening. My system: > > PIII 600 > 256 ram > V3 3000 (latest drivers) > SbLive > Direct X 8 (latest) > Logitech Wingman FF wheel > TSW pedals > Windows 98se > > I use Enditall to close all the programs I don't need. Any ideas? > > > thanks, > > Chris G. > >
Thats sounds like a network search. Do you have a local net or NIC card? You may have disconnected a network peripheral and windows is searching for the lost connection. One other way to confirm this is to go back to the windows desktop and start moving your mouse around. After the same amount of time as GPL, 5-7 seconds, does the mouse hitch in the arc it should be moving in? dave henrie "Gennarelli" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:STTL6.24248$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (10 lines)> Also, I get the frame rates hits and the car is not even moving. I sit in > the pits and watch the frame rate. It takes the hit to 33fps just sitting > there. > > Chris G. > Gennarelli <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:1LSL6.23658$[email hidden]... > > I've been getting frame rate hits when I play GPL. The frame rate goes > from > > a solid 36fps to 33fps. It doesn't seem like much of a hit but it
happens > > about every 5 to 7 seconds. It really screws you when racing. It happens > > online and offline. I haven't had this problem before. I've haven'tadded
Quoted text (21 lines)> > anything new. Just started happening. My system: > > > > PIII 600 > > 256 ram > > V3 3000 (latest drivers) > > SbLive > > Direct X 8 (latest) > > Logitech Wingman FF wheel > > TSW pedals > > Windows 98se > > > > I use Enditall to close all the programs I don't need. Any ideas? > > > > > > thanks, > > > > Chris G. > > > > > >
Two things *every* 3dfx gpl owner should download: Gary Peterson's voodoo3 utility http://www.tweakfiles.com/video/voodoo3overclocker.html You can overclock with this, but more importantly you can set all refresh rates at all resolutions at one time with it. Use 85hz for everything below 1280x1024, 60-75 above, depending on monitor. Turn off glide vsync, and overclock as much as possible as this will help somewhat with texture loading glitches; start at 172mhz for v3000, I run at 180 with a small fan mounted. George Smiley's glide wrapper http://home.swbell.net/gmsmiley/ Use the Resolution Override option to both cure texture corruption if you see any, and reduce monitor mode switching. Use MirrorUpdate = 2 to get an instant 4fps framerate boost. In GPL also set mirrors to CarsOnly and uncheck all the mirror texture options. You should be able to run GPL at 1280x1024 with the hi-res cockpits and 3d wheels and the whole bit on any cpu 700mhz and above with these tweaks. If you get periodic glitches they be Windows memory caching pauses or something related, so go thru all the tweaks here: http://www.3dspotlight.com/tweaking.shtml and make sure joystick polling is unchecked in device manager for your wheel, and dma is enabled for your HD if available. rms [email hidden]
Also, in gpl's core.ini set these variables: disable_ipx = 1 ; Disable IPX support disable_modem = 1 ; Don't look for/use modems They aren't needed for offline racing, and don't interfere with vroc, and gpl will start up faster. rms [email hidden]
All the solutions so far ask you to change a setting somewhere. But you stated in your original post that this just started happening and you haven't added anything new... odd eh? There were a couple of lines in your mail that stood out to me: >V3 3000 (latest drivers) >Direct X 8 (latest) So when did the problem occur? If you have changed NOTHING and the PC starts acting differently, logically it can only be a hardware fault or a full hard disk. But of course it depends what you mean when you say you havent added anything new.. What about the latest Voodoo3 drivers and DX8? Could the problem have occured just after you added those? I repeat, if NOTHING has changed on your PC, but programs start to act differently then either you filled up your HD so the swapfile cant work properly, or you have a hardware fault. Im sure something, somewhere, HAS added something new to your PC. Lol SF.
On Mon, 14 May 2001 11:17:23 -0600, "Roger Squires" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (16 lines)>Two things *every* 3dfx gpl owner should download: > >George Smiley's glide wrapper >http://home.swbell.net/gmsmiley/ >Use the Resolution Override option to both cure texture corruption if you >see any, and reduce monitor mode switching. Use MirrorUpdate = 2 to get an >instant 4fps framerate boost. In GPL also set mirrors to CarsOnly and >uncheck all the mirror texture options. > >You should be able to run GPL at 1280x1024 with the hi-res cockpits and 3d >wheels and the whole bit on any cpu 700mhz and above with these tweaks. If >you get periodic glitches they be Windows memory caching pauses or something >related, so go thru all the tweaks here: >http://www.3dspotlight.com/tweaking.shtml >and make sure joystick polling is unchecked in device manager for your >wheel, and dma is enabled for your HD if available.
Does the Glide wrapper fix the problem with large dash textures under Glide? I've been happily using D3D on my V5 1024x768 2xFSAA, and have had to revert alot of car enhancements to run under Glide (for testing). W/O the mirror tweaks of the Glide wrapper (using native GPL Glide support), D3D was as fast or faster than Glide for my setup (full 3D wheels - the Z-buffer added in the D3D renderer seemed to make the difference). Kendt
On Mon, 14 May 2001 16:37:38 GMT, "Gennarelli" <[email hidden]> wrote: >I have vsync disabled. Also, I can only set my refresh rate to >60,70,75,85,100,120,optimal and adapter default. I have it set to optimal. Not if you get HZTool. With htis utility you can set the refresh rate to whatever you want it to be. Just make sure you don't go over spec for your monitor. http://hem.spray.se/doxx/ -- eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zip
"Gennarelli" <[email hidden]> wrote: >I've been getting frame rate hits when I play GPL. The frame rate goes from >a solid 36fps to 33fps. It doesn't seem like much of a hit but it happens >about every 5 to 7 seconds. It really screws you when racing. It happens >online and offline. I haven't had this problem before. Could it could be that your hard disk is getting either very full, or fragmented? Either one could lead to hard disk accesses that would cause slowdowns. Chris Noto, see Noto at tee dee ess dot net

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