These look pretty good.
http://www.sports-gaming.com/cgi/view2.cgi?F1%202001%20(PC)&/racing/f1_2001&
1&3
These look pretty good.
http://www.sports-gaming.com/cgi/view2.cgi?F1%202001%20(PC
1&3
On Thu, 17 May 2001 22:10:04 -0400, "Andrew S" <[email hidden]>
wrote:
>These look pretty good.
Yes, they do. But, will it need a Cray like F12K did?
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F12K needed a Cray, but F12KCS was a lot better. So there is hope!
Iain
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> On Thu, 17 May 2001 22:10:04 -0400, "Andrew S" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >These look pretty good. > > Yes, they do. But, will it need a Cray like F12K did? > -- > eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format > http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zipOn Sat, 19 May 2001 06:55:25 +0100, "Iain Mackenzie"
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>F12K needed a Cray, but F12KCS was a lot better. So there is hope!
>Iain
Yea. I'm looking forward to it. EA's F1 has been my personal favourite
so far.
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If they manage to put in proper FF, they have an almost clear winner in
my book.
-Gregor
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> Yea. I'm looking forward to it. EA's F1 has been my personal favourite
> so far.
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On Sat, 19 May 2001 18:23:46 +0200, Gregor Veble
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>If they manage to put in proper FF, they have an almost clear winner in
>my book.
>
>-Gregor
>
>Jagg wrote:
Yep, but the FFB is no worse than F1RC. I can't feel any corners in
F1RC with FFB, just bumps.
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How have you managed to bring F1RC into this? Amazing! Have you tried F1
2001? How do you know that it's 'no worse than F1RC'?
Although nothing like as good as the obviously wonderful GPL FF, the FF in
F1RC is a lot better than either of the previous EA titles, and you can feel
the car lifting off in corners, steering lightening, and good spot effects.
Not brilliant by any means, but pretty good and certainly better than most.
Iain
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> On Sat, 19 May 2001 18:23:46 +0200, Gregor Veble > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >If they manage to put in proper FF, they have an almost clear winner in > >my book. > > > >-Gregor > > > >Jagg wrote: > > Yep, but the FFB is no worse than F1RC. I can't feel any corners in > F1RC with FFB, just bumps. > > -- > eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format > http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zipWho said anything about F1 RC ;). I agree, in F1 RC (demo) FF is
appaling as well, and the only modern F1 sim to get it at least close to
right is GP3.
But if F1 2000/CS 2000 had done it, it would have been very hard for me
to say which modern F1 sim is my favourite. As it stands now, though
(and especially since 3D sound was released for it)...
-Gregor
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> > Yep, but the FFB is no worse than F1RC. I can't feel any corners in > F1RC with FFB, just bumps. > > -- > eFalcon keyboard chart in PDF format > http://storm.prohosting.com/~nos146/ef4_keys.zipOn Sun, 20 May 2001 08:09:39 +0100, "Iain Mackenzie"
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>How have you managed to bring F1RC into this? Amazing! Have you tried F1
>2001? How do you know that it's 'no worse than F1RC'?
I meant the FFB is no worse in F12K compared to F1RC. I managed to
bring F1RC into it, because I think people like you are giving F1RC
more credit than it deserves. IMO, you're just eyecandy weenies and
are glossing over the deficiencies in F1RC just because you think it
looks so great. All looks and little substance.
>Although nothing like as good as the obviously wonderful GPL FF, the FF in
>F1RC is a lot better than either of the previous EA titles, and you can feel
>the car lifting off in corners, steering lightening, and good spot effects.
Yea, I can feel that, but were's the cornering forces?
>Not brilliant by any means, but pretty good and certainly better than most.
GP3 has much better FFB than F1RC and F12K.
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On Sun, 20 May 2001 10:39:50 +0200, Gregor Veble
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>Who said anything about F1 RC ;). I agree, in F1 RC (demo) FF is
>appaling as well, and the only modern F1 sim to get it at least close to
>right is GP3.
Read my previous post to Ian.
>But if F1 2000/CS 2000 had done it, it would have been very hard for me
>to say which modern F1 sim is my favourite. As it stands now, though
>(and especially since 3D sound was released for it)...
>
Yea, the sound in GP3 is greatly improved now. My only real complaint
about GP3 is that the AI is still a bit daft at times and the
graphics need improving in some areas. That jiggling graphics engine
is a bit annoying.
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Wow, Jagg,
when was the last time we agreed this much ;).
-Gregor
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> GP3 has much better FFB than F1RC and F12K.
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> > I meant the FFB is no worse in F12K compared to F1RC. I managed to > bring F1RC into it, because I think people like you are giving F1RC > more credit than it deserves. IMO, you're just eyecandy weenies and > are glossing over the deficiencies in F1RC just because you think it > looks so great. All looks and little substance. >> I meant the FFB is no worse in F12K compared to F1RC. I managed to
> bring F1RC into it, because I think people like you are giving F1RC
> more credit than it deserves.
You're obsessed man! Seek some help! In a post about F1 2001, you manage to
bring in a totally irrelevant comment about F1RC, and get the sim wrong. No
mention of F12K or F1RC in the original post! Pretty impressive.
> IMO, you're just eyecandy weenies and are glossing over the deficienciesin F1RC just because you think it looks so great. All looks and little
substance.
You are continuing my theory of needing some serious help! I have been a
simmer probably longer than you've been born! From GC's original classic
'Revs' in the seventies through almost every release to the latest F1RC.
I've been posting to ras for years and haven't noticed you until fairly
recently.
I believe it is you who is totally wrong about F1RC, the fact that it looks
amazing is purely a bonus. Even if it looked totally crap, it would still be
the best modern F1 sim out there. That is not to say that it doesn't have
it's faults, neither does it mean that all other sims are crap. Far from it,
I still load F1CS a lot, and GP3 has some merits, but neither of them has
the right feel or the physics of the driving experience that makes F1RC such
a blast.
> GP3 has much better FFB than F1RCdisagree
> and F12K.agree.
Iain
On Sun, 20 May 2001 17:43:32 +0200, Gregor Veble
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>Wow, Jagg,
>
>when was the last time we agreed this much ;).
>
>-Gregor
Never! :-)
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On Sun, 20 May 2001 21:13:01 +0100, "Iain Mackenzie"
<[email hidden]> wrote:
>You are continuing my theory of needing some serious help! I have been a
>simmer probably longer than you've been born! From GC's original classic
>'Revs' in the seventies through almost every release to the latest F1RC.
>I've been posting to ras for years and haven't noticed you until fairly
>recently.
I go back a long way, not as long as you, but the reason you have'nt
noticed me before is because I have a split personality disorder and
post under more than one handle. But, I think your old age is fogging
your judgement. Time to retire to the web forums on MSN and play
online Hearts.
Whens the last time you drove an F1 car at Monza?
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>I believe it is you who is totally wrong about F1RC, the fact that it looks >amazing is purely a bonus. Even if it looked totally crap, it would still be >the best modern F1 sim out there. That is not to say that it doesn't have >it's faults, neither does it mean that all other sims are crap. Far from it, >I still load F1CS a lot, and GP3 has some merits, but neither of them has >the right feel or the physics of the driving experience that makes F1RC such >a blast.
>Time to retire to the web forums on MSN and play online Hearts.
>ooohhh!! The incisive wit is so cutting! Still, good idea, I'll just go
and grease that zimmer down!
See you there!
Iain
Hi Jagg,
Jagg wrote:
>
> Read my previous post to Ian.
>
It came here soon after I posted. So we fully agree it seems.
>
> Yea, the sound in GP3 is greatly improved now. My only real complaint
> about GP3 is that the AI is still a bit daft at times and the
> graphics need improving in some areas. That jiggling graphics engine
> is a bit annoying.
>
The AI sure does have certain issues when you are much slower than them,
but once you're racing them they are up there with those in GPL. I've
noticed that all the crashes I initially blame on them are fully shown
to be my mistakes in replays. Sometimes it feels you have more room than
you actually do.
The graphics engine sure is annoying at times, although the artwork
within it is superb. Still, it's not a gameplay killer and this is what
counts most.
-Gregor
