Viper Racing aging well

I hadn't used Viper Racing for a year or more... loaded on my new PC the other day (Athlon 1.2 with ATI Radeon). Downloaded the latest patch, and ran it at 1024x768 with all the visual options set to maximum... in simulation mode with all the driving aids turned off... WOW! This game is still an excellent car simulator! In fact I still think it is still the only real car simulator available on the market. If you are waiting for WSC, and are getting impatient, I would strongly recommend this game to hold you over. I started career mode and forgot how difficult it was to race the stock Viper with all it's weight, soft suspension and inefficient parts and setup. You have to drive nice and easy to just finish races to get a few hundred dollars to upgrade your car. The physics and simulation are top notch! I mean, you really can't just slam on the accelerator or especially the brakes! How many car games are there where you actually need to lightly press on the brakes, like a normal car, to slow the car down? Not many! Maybe Formula 1 simulators only. Even the damage modeling is amazingly dynamic. The simulation is realistic, the game is fun and the tracks are really interesting too... I don't know why this game never sold that well? I guess it's too difficult for all of the NFS arcade type drivers out there... too bad we'll probably never see a Viper 2.

"Alain" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:jR8O6.2871$[email hidden]... > WOW! This game is still an excellent car simulator! I wholeheartedly agree with this. It has about the best shelf life of any driving game I can think of. I have probably run through the championship about 10 times and it is still a great fun challenge every time. The driving model is subtle but very good. I think Viper 2 was called "Nascar Heat", which also seems to be holding up well on my system. ~daxe

[email hidden] (Alain) wrote in <jR8O6.2871$[email hidden]>: >I hadn't used Viper Racing for a year or more... loaded on my new PC >the other day (Athlon 1.2 with ATI Radeon). Downloaded the latest >patch, and ran it at 1024x768 with all the visual options set to >maximum... in simulation mode with all the driving aids turned >off... I really enjoyed Viper and should give it another go. Are you saying there's a new Viper patch? -- Don Scurlock Vancouver,B.C. GPLRank -12.23 Come see how you rank, at the GPLRank site http://gplrank.ringlord.com/

>"Don Scurlock" <[email hidden]> wrote > I really enjoyed Viper and should give it another go. Are you saying > there's a new Viper patch? There was one official patch released (1.1) but there is also a "fix" on the net that gives you the possibility to crank up the resolution to 1024x768. There are also now plenty of car modifications, 3d rim wheels, etc... It has aged very well indeed, but the original tracks are still all there is :( -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

No, sorry, the latest patch (v1.1) is not that new (19 January 1999)... but it allows me to set the resolution to 1024x768 where the original did not. "Don Scurlock" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:90A84FCDAdscurlock@news... > I really enjoyed Viper and should give it another go. Are you saying > there's a new Viper patch?

I totally agree. Viper Racing is my favorite racing title by far. Perhaps the learning curve was too steep for the average gamer to appreciate. The AI was very good in career mode, and in the beginning, the on-line racing was fantastic. What kind of ruined it for me, was when they brought out a patch, that allowed you to choose regular, or GTS. It became increasingly difficult to get good races, where everyone was on the same page, willing to race the same type of cars. It still has the best use of force feedback that I've ever experienced, which is remarkable considering how long ago it was released. On Mon, 21 May 2001 09:36:23 -0400, "Alain" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>I hadn't used Viper Racing for a year or more... loaded on my new PC the >other day (Athlon 1.2 with ATI Radeon). Downloaded the latest patch, and >ran it at 1024x768 with all the visual options set to maximum... in >simulation mode with all the driving aids turned off... > >WOW! This game is still an excellent car simulator! In fact I still think >it is still the only real car simulator available on the market. If you are >waiting for WSC, and are getting impatient, I would strongly recommend this >game to hold you over. > >I started career mode and forgot how difficult it was to race the stock >Viper with all it's weight, soft suspension and inefficient parts and setup. >You have to drive nice and easy to just finish races to get a few hundred >dollars to upgrade your car. The physics and simulation are top notch! I >mean, you really can't just slam on the accelerator or especially the >brakes! How many car games are there where you actually need to lightly >press on the brakes, like a normal car, to slow the car down? Not many! >Maybe Formula 1 simulators only. Even the damage modeling is amazingly >dynamic. > >The simulation is realistic, the game is fun and the tracks are really >interesting too... I don't know why this game never sold that well? I >guess it's too difficult for all of the NFS arcade type drivers out there... >too bad we'll probably never see a Viper 2. > >

The game is great...just the tracks aren't that good (only a couple have the layout that could pass for a real life road course). Jesse Black Alain wrote in message ...

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>I hadn't used Viper Racing for a year or more... loaded on my new PC the >other day (Athlon 1.2 with ATI Radeon). Downloaded the latest patch, and >ran it at 1024x768 with all the visual options set to maximum... in >simulation mode with all the driving aids turned off... > >WOW! This game is still an excellent car simulator! In fact I still think >it is still the only real car simulator available on the market. If you

are >waiting for WSC, and are getting impatient, I would strongly recommend this >game to hold you over. > >I started career mode and forgot how difficult it was to race the stock >Viper with all it's weight, soft suspension and inefficient parts andsetup.

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>You have to drive nice and easy to just finish races to get a few hundred >dollars to upgrade your car. The physics and simulation are top notch! I >mean, you really can't just slam on the accelerator or especially the >brakes! How many car games are there where you actually need to lightly >press on the brakes, like a normal car, to slow the car down? Not many! >Maybe Formula 1 simulators only. Even the damage modeling is amazingly >dynamic. > >The simulation is realistic, the game is fun and the tracks are really >interesting too... I don't know why this game never sold that well? I >guess it's too difficult for all of the NFS arcade type drivers out

there... >too bad we'll probably never see a Viper 2. > > >

>It still has the best use of force feedback that I've ever >experienced, which is remarkable considering how long ago it was >released. In my opinion Viper's force feedback is second only to GPL. I have heard that N4 has great FF too. Lol SF.

Has anyone managed to get Viper Racing to work with Window's 2000? If so, could you let me know? I'm starting to go through withdrawl here since I installed windows 2000 about 2 weeks ago and haven't been able to race :-( tia jah_warrior86

On Mon, 21 May 2001 19:46:54 -0700, "jah_warrior86" <[email hidden]> scribbled: >Has anyone managed to get Viper Racing to work with Window's 2000? If so, >could you let me know? I'm starting to go through withdrawl here since I >installed windows 2000 about 2 weeks ago and haven't been able to race :-( >tia > >jah_warrior86 Try creating a shortcut to the main executable file, then on the property sheet for the shortcut, enable compatibility mode. Set it to Windows 98. That's what I did and it runs fine in Win2k (SP1). Only problem I have is choppy audio, but I can live with it. :) There's probably a better way to do the compatibility setting, but that's what I did and it worked, so I haven't fiddled with it. -Slash -- "Ebert Victorious" - The Onion

Agreed. VR & SCGT are two classics that I'll still play from time to time. -Tim "Todd Walker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> I must agree too. VR is still a great title. I think another title > that has aged very well is SCGT. I still play it (and enjoy it > immensely) to this day. > > Todd Walker > twalker at jam dot rr dot com > http://twalker.d2g.com > > > > On Mon, 21 May 2001 14:30:43 GMT, "daxe" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > >"Alain" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:jR8O6.2871$[email hidden]... > > > >> WOW! This game is still an excellent car simulator! > > > >I wholeheartedly agree with this. It has about the best shelf life of

any > >driving game I can think of. I have probably run through thechampionship > >about 10 times and it is still a great fun challenge every time. The > >driving model is subtle but very good. > > > >I think Viper 2 was called "Nascar Heat", which also seems to be holdingup > >well on my system. > > > >~daxe > > >

Run the attached setwin95.cm on the viper racing exe and hey presto! Viper must be one of the most underrated games of all time. FF is only second to GPL and the handling is excellent. Very good fun on LAN. -- Some Call Me Tim "jah_warrior86" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:hskO6.4459$[email hidden]... > Has anyone managed to get Viper Racing to work with Window's 2000? If so, > could you let me know? I'm starting to go through withdrawl here since I > installed windows 2000 about 2 weeks ago and haven't been able to race :-( > tia > > jah_warrior86 > > begin 666 SETWIN95.CMD M0&5C:&\@;V9F#0I214T-"E)%32!4:&ES(&)A=&-H('-C<FEP="!W:6QL(&UA M<FL@86X@:6UA9V4@9FEL92!S;R!T:&%T(&ET('1H:6YK<R!I="!I<R!R=6YN M:6YG#0I214T@;VX@5VEN9&]W<R Y-2X-"E)%30T*:68@(B4Q(B ]/2 B(B!G M;W1O('5S86=E#0IE8VAO($UA<FMI;F<@)3$@97AE8W5T86)L92!S;R!I="!T M:&EN:W,@:70@:7,@<G5N;FEN9R!O;B!7:6YD;W=S(#DU#0II;6%G96-F9R M M=R P>$,P,# P,# T("4Q(#YN=6P-"F=O=&\@9&]N90T*.G5S86=E#0IE8VAO L(%5S86=E.B!3151724XY-2!E>&5C=71A8FQE1FEL94YA;64-"CID;VYE#0H` ` end

Strange attachment you have there Tim, better run a virus check on your system.... Bart Westra "Some Call Me Tim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:IIUO6.98196$[email hidden]...

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> Run the attached setwin95.cm on the viper racing exe and hey presto! > > Viper must be one of the most underrated games of all time. FF is only > second to GPL and the handling is excellent. Very good fun on LAN. > > > --

On Mon, 21 May 2001 18:31:25 GMT, "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>>"Don Scurlock" <[email hidden]> wrote >> I really enjoyed Viper and should give it another go. Are you saying >> there's a new Viper patch? > >There was one official patch released (1.1) but there is also a "fix" on the >net that gives you the possibility to crank up the resolution to 1024x768. >There are also now plenty of car modifications, 3d rim wheels, etc... > > >It has aged very well indeed, but the original tracks are still all there is >:(

Where is the Viper patch available?

>"M. Gilmore" <[email hidden]> wrote > Where is the Viper patch available? Sierra's site has the 1.1patch, but I have no idea for the V3 fix. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Every time I dust it off and play it, I find that a couple of hours pass by in a blink of an eye. There is no other sim quite like it. I have played it more over the years than any other sim. My only reason for not playing it during certain periods of time is that I wish there were more tracks. As far as the physics is concerned, it ranks above even GPL in terms of "feel" for me. If only there were more tracks. I personally love the natural courses, they offer far more variety than most "real" race courses do. Lots of elevation changes and differences between the courses. I don't need big "name" courses, just great courses and excellent scenery and atmosphere, which Viper racing has. "Alain" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:jR8O6.2871$[email hidden]... > I hadn't used Viper Racing for a year or more... loaded on my new PC the > other day (Athlon 1.2 with ATI Radeon). Downloaded the latest patch, and > ran it at 1024x768 with all the visual options set to maximum... in > simulation mode with all the driving aids turned off... > > WOW! This game is still an excellent car simulator! In fact I stillthink > it is still the only real car simulator available on the market. If youare > waiting for WSC, and are getting impatient, I would strongly recommendthis > game to hold you over. > > I started career mode and forgot how difficult it was to race the stock > Viper with all it's weight, soft suspension and inefficient parts andsetup.

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> You have to drive nice and easy to just finish races to get a few hundred > dollars to upgrade your car. The physics and simulation are top notch! I > mean, you really can't just slam on the accelerator or especially the > brakes! How many car games are there where you actually need to lightly > press on the brakes, like a normal car, to slow the car down? Not many! > Maybe Formula 1 simulators only. Even the damage modeling is amazingly > dynamic. > > The simulation is realistic, the game is fun and the tracks are really > interesting too... I don't know why this game never sold that well? I > guess it's too difficult for all of the NFS arcade type drivers out

there... > too bad we'll probably never see a Viper 2. > > > >

On Thu, 24 May 2001 11:20:51 GMT, "Olly Greenfield" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Every time I dust it off and play it, I find that a couple of hours pass by >in a blink of an eye. There is no other sim quite like it. I have played it >more over the years than any other sim. My only reason for not playing it >during certain periods of time is that I wish there were more tracks. As far >as the physics is concerned, it ranks above even GPL in terms of "feel" for >me. If only there were more tracks. I personally love the natural courses, >they offer far more variety than most "real" race courses do. Lots of >elevation changes and differences between the courses. I don't need big >"name" courses, just great courses and excellent scenery and atmosphere, >which Viper racing has.

I agree on all counts -- and I REALLY like the tracks in Viper Racing, too. Imagine if we could import the Viper Racing tracks into NASCAR Heat for use with the CART Heat and Le Mans Heat add-ons. Maybe someday . . . -- JB

I also agree... Viper was (is) a fantastic game/sim ... too bad there aren`t more games like it :-/ Lorne --------------------- "John Bodin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Thu, 24 May 2001 11:20:51 GMT, "Olly Greenfield" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Every time I dust it off and play it, I find that a couple of hours passby > >in a blink of an eye. There is no other sim quite like it. I have playedit > >more over the years than any other sim. My only reason for not playing it > >during certain periods of time is that I wish there were more tracks. Asfar > >as the physics is concerned, it ranks above even GPL in terms of "feel"for > >me. If only there were more tracks. I personally love the naturalcourses,

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> >they offer far more variety than most "real" race courses do. Lots of > >elevation changes and differences between the courses. I don't need big > >"name" courses, just great courses and excellent scenery and atmosphere, > >which Viper racing has. > > I agree on all counts -- and I REALLY like the tracks in Viper Racing, > too. Imagine if we could import the Viper Racing tracks into NASCAR > Heat for use with the CART Heat and Le Mans Heat add-ons. > > Maybe someday . . . > > -- JB > >

I hope you guys can figure out a way to import the viper tracks , especially for lemans heat, that would be awesome. You would think that someone at MGI could give you a hint at how to do that, afterall it is an old game now, albeit still near state of the gaming art. "John Bodin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> I agree on all counts -- and I REALLY like the tracks in Viper Racing, > too. Imagine if we could import the Viper Racing tracks into NASCAR > Heat for use with the CART Heat and Le Mans Heat add-ons. > > Maybe someday . . . > > -- JB > > >