GPL: No damage in (offline) racing?

I get so frustrated when I can't even finish an Int Short in the Lotus (the car seems much more fragile than online). Is there a util around that allows you to race offline GPL without damage? -- David. (GPLRank handicap: -5.92; Monsters of GPLRank h/cap +282.87) The GPL Scrapyard: http://scrapyard.9ug.com "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh.

Better to drop the lotus and race the cooper or eagle, they are more fun anyway. rms [email hidden]

"David Buttery" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I get so frustrated when I can't even finish an Int Short in the Lotus > (the car seems much more fragile than online). Is there a util > around that allows you to race offline GPL without damage? Yes, it's called SVGEdit, you find it at the pits (http://www.theuspits.com/). Bart Westra

Roger Squires <[email hidden]> wrote on 22 May 2001: >Better to drop the lotus and race the cooper or eagle, they are more >fun anyway. Well, I generally drive the Ferrari these days, mainly because of the annoying unreliability of the Lotus. I'd just like to have a bit of fun in the Lotus now and again. -- David. (GPLRank handicap: -5.92; Monsters of GPLRank h/cap +282.87) The GPL Scrapyard: http://scrapyard.9ug.com "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh.

Bart Westra <[email hidden]> wrote on 22 May 2001: >Yes, it's called SVGEdit, you find it at the pits >(http://www.theuspits.com/). Or www.thenorwaypits.com in my case, as the US site is too unreliable... cheers. -- David. (GPLRank handicap: -5.92; Monsters of GPLRank h/cap +282.87) The GPL Scrapyard: http://scrapyard.9ug.com "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh.

"Roger Squires" <[email hidden]> wrote in news:9ee0lg$64pa$1@newssvr05- en0.news.prodigy.com: > Better to drop the lotus and race the cooper or eagle, they are more fun > anyway. But be warned that at the tracks where you had easy wins in your pocket you may find yourself only fighting for points. I switched from Lotus to Honda and now I have no chances at all at Mosport. AI is running mid 1.21 starting from the first lap. How mere humans are supposed to win in Honda? (has anyone actually done it when at least one fast car stayed in the race?) Even at Mexico, where AI is slow winning in Honda is not that easy - those Lotii are quite hard to pass. Good point that I had no mechanical failures so far (Pro Short). Alex (alexti)

I hate to ask, but you do know to lift off the throttle momentarily when shifting? right? sorry if thats too basic to be considered... dave henrie "David Buttery" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> I get so frustrated when I can't even finish an Int Short in the Lotus > (the car seems much more fragile than online). Is there a util > around that allows you to race offline GPL without damage? > > -- > David. (GPLRank handicap: -5.92; Monsters of GPLRank h/cap +282.87) > The GPL Scrapyard: http://scrapyard.9ug.com > "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, > really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh.

Anyone know if it's possible to set a macro on your controller so that when changing gear the throttle is automatically removed and reapplied as soon as the gear change is complete without having to lift your foot off the accelerator? (kind of like a tip-tronic shifter). Would it be cheating? Cheers Hamish "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:GKGO6.45501$[email hidden]...

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> I hate to ask, but you do know to lift off the throttle momentarily when > shifting? right? sorry if thats too > basic to be considered... > dave henrie > "David Buttery" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I get so frustrated when I can't even finish an Int Short in the Lotus > > (the car seems much more fragile than online). Is there a util > > around that allows you to race offline GPL without damage? > > > > -- > > David. (GPLRank handicap: -5.92; Monsters of GPLRank h/cap +282.87) > > The GPL Scrapyard: http://scrapyard.9ug.com > > "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, > > really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh. > >

Questions David.. Since you have a high level GPLRank and it sure seems you know how to race. How do you race a Lotus? Your are or must be good with other chassis so how can this be? I started with the Lotus as soon as GPL was forsale on the shelves way back when but I never "Encountered" these problems and my GPLRank certainly does not come close to yours... This enquiring mind would like to know.... :-) Do you have a replay available? Thom_j. "David Buttery" wrote:

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| > I get so frustrated when I can't even finish an Int Short in the Lotus | > (the car seems much more fragile than online). Is there a util | > around that allows you to race offline GPL without damage? | > | > -- | > David. (GPLRank handicap: -5.92; Monsters of GPLRank h/cap +282.87) | > The GPL Scrapyard: http://scrapyard.9ug.com | > "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, | > really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh. | |

"Hamish Strong" wrote... > Anyone know if it's possible to set a macro on your controller so thatwhen > changing gear the throttle is automatically removed and reapplied as soonas > the gear change is complete without having to lift your foot off the > accelerator? (kind of like a tip-tronic shifter). Would it be cheating? > > Cheers > Hamish >Yes :) -- Tony Whitley GPLRank -0.54 "On some laps I'd get as many as fifteen corners really right, but Moss, he gets them all right on every lap" - Von Trips after the 1961 German Grand Prix.

"Bart Westra" wrote...

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> > "David Buttery" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I get so frustrated when I can't even finish an Int Short in the Lotus > > (the car seems much more fragile than online). Is there a util > > around that allows you to race offline GPL without damage? > > Yes, it's called SVGEdit, you find it at the pits > (http://www.theuspits.com/). > > Bart Westra

If you just want a short length race with no damage (and a more permanent change) you could use my Race Length Editor to change the length of a Novice race: http://www.simracing.dk/gpl/resourcer/tools/editor/racelengtheditor_v1_0_2.z ip -- Tony Whitley GPLRank -0.54 "On some laps I'd get as many as fifteen corners really right, but Moss, he gets them all right on every lap" - Von Trips after the 1961 German Grand Prix.

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>But be warned that at the tracks where you had easy wins in your >pocket you may find yourself only fighting for points. I switched from >Lotus to Honda and now I have no chances at all at Mosport. AI is running >mid 1.21 starting from the first lap. How mere humans are supposed >to win in Honda? (has anyone actually done it when at least one fast car >stayed in the race?) Even at Mexico, where AI is slow winning in Honda is >not that easy - those Lotii are quite hard to pass. Good point that I had >no mechanical failures so far (Pro Short).

The AI is slow at Mexico?!? Are we playing the same game...?<g> Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +25.37...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Dave Henrie <[email hidden]> wrote on 23 May 2001: > I hate to ask, but you do know to lift off the throttle > momentarily when >shifting? right? sorry if thats too >basic to be considered... >dave henrie Yes, I do lift off when shifting - when I'm racing "properly". What I want is a way to have a quick thrash so's I can sppedshift & slipstream at the same time, 'cause me Monza time's been stuck in teh mid-28s for ages. Dubious morality, maybe, but hey... :-) -- David. (GPLRank handicap: -5.92; Monsters of GPLRank h/cap +282.87) The GPL Scrapyard: http://scrapyard.9ug.com "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh.

Thom j. <[email hidden]> wrote on 23 May 2001:

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>Questions David.. Since you have a high level GPLRank and it sure >seems you know how to race. How do you race a Lotus? Your are >or must be good with other chassis so how can this be? >I started with the Lotus as soon as GPL was forsale on the shelves >way back when but I never "Encountered" these problems and my >GPLRank certainly does not come close to yours... This enquiring >mind would like to know.... :-) Do you have a replay available? >Thom_j.

I don't generally have too many problems, even with the Lotus, when racing "properly", as I said in my reply to Dave Henrie. That's the reason I specified "offline" in my subject line - I *only* want a quick fix for quick blasts vs the AI. And you're on very thin ice equating a low GPLRank with good racing skills... <g> As VROC types may have noticed, I tend to drive the Ferrari when I'm doing "serious" racing, ie trying to win. Monza is a bit of a special case - the Lotus' sheer speed is just too important to ignore there. -- David. (GPLRank handicap: -5.92; Monsters of GPLRank h/cap +282.87) The GPL Scrapyard: http://scrapyard.9ug.com "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh.

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> In article <[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] (Alex) writes: > >>But be warned that at the tracks where you had easy wins in your >>pocket you may find yourself only fighting for points. I switched from >>Lotus to Honda and now I have no chances at all at Mosport. AI is >>running mid 1.21 starting from the first lap. How mere humans are >>supposed to win in Honda? (has anyone actually done it when at least >>one fast car stayed in the race?) Even at Mexico, where AI is slow >>winning in Honda is not that easy - those Lotii are quite hard to pass. >>Good point that I had no mechanical failures so far (Pro Short). > > The AI is slow at Mexico?!? Are we playing the same game...?<g>

Comparatively. At Mexico fastest cars run somwhere in range 1:50.50 - 1:51.00 (fixed standard AI). For comparison, at Mosport they run around 1:21.70 - 1:22.20 range. From GPLRank: drivers with pb below 1:50.50 at Mexico - 930, drivers with pb below 1:21.70 at Mosport - 321. After checking this numbers I am not sure myself that the difference is that big as it appeared to me. My impression was based on the fact that at Mosport I normally lap in the same range as AI with few laps in low 1:21 and few laps with mistakes, so winning there is quite tough, but at Mexico, I can lap in 1:48.00 - 1:49.00 range quite comfortably, so winning there is much easier (both times in Lotus). I'd like to see in GPLRank a feature that would show distribution of drivers by lap times. Alex (alexti)

"O" ok I see now!! Sorry I am getting old & have always been dense.. :-) Btw: on GPLrank and good racers: Well I feel you can not be an extreme moron nor a racing crap-head with such a low GPLrank.. jmho!! :-) Thom_j. "David Buttery" wrote:

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| I don't generally have too many problems, even with the Lotus, when | racing "properly", as I said in my reply to Dave Henrie. That's the | reason I specified "offline" in my subject line - I *only* want a quick | fix for quick blasts vs the AI. | | And you're on very thin ice equating a low GPLRank with good racing | skills... <g> As VROC types may have noticed, I tend to drive the | Ferrari when I'm doing "serious" racing, ie trying to win. Monza is a | bit of a special case - the Lotus' sheer speed is just too important to | ignore there. | | -- | David. (GPLRank handicap: -5.92; Monsters of GPLRank h/cap +282.87) | The GPL Scrapyard: http://scrapyard.9ug.com | "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, | really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh.

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>> The AI is slow at Mexico?!? Are we playing the same game...?<g> > >Comparatively. At Mexico fastest cars run somwhere in range >1:50.50 - 1:51.00 (fixed standard AI). For comparison, at Mosport >they run around 1:21.70 - 1:22.20 range. From GPLRank: >drivers with pb below 1:50.50 at Mexico - 930, >drivers with pb below 1:21.70 at Mosport - 321. >After checking this numbers I am not sure myself that the difference >is that big as it appeared to me. My impression was based on >the fact that at Mosport I normally lap in the same range as AI >with few laps in low 1:21 and few laps with mistakes, so winning >there is quite tough, but at Mexico, I can lap in 1:48.00 - 1:49.00 >range quite comfortably, so winning there is much easier (both times >in Lotus). > >I'd like to see in GPLRank a feature that would show distribution >of drivers by lap times.

Well, my Mexico PB is 1:51.xx, and my Mosport PB is 1:24.xx. Bottom line, I can't win at either track, even using standard AI. Therefore, it's not easy ... :) Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +25.37...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.