GPL "High Speed CPU" Patch?

Could someone please post some "details" on this topic....I'm tired of clicking through 10,000 "thank you's"......looking for some details on what the heck this patch addresses....and "why/when/how its needed." I've not been running GPL for a few months....but will be installing it again shortly. Thanks in advance, for your information. Tom

> Could someone please post some "details" on this topic....I'm tired of > clicking through 10,000 "thank you's"......looking for some details onwhat > the heck this patch addresses....and "why/when/how its needed." > > I've not been running GPL for a few months....but will be installing it > again shortly. > > Thanks in advance, for your information. Hi Tom, The patch is an unsupported beta patch which will update Grand Prix Legends 1.2 so that it will run properly on 1.7Ghz and higher machines. Download the file from Papyrus' website at http://www.papy.com/html/new.htm. -- Kenneth Verburg Editor-in-chief High Gear http://www.simracingnews.com

"Tom Pabst" wrote... > Could someone please post some "details" on this topic....I'm tired of > clicking through 10,000 "thank you's"......looking for some details onwhat > the heck this patch addresses....and "why/when/how its needed."That'll be in the first message in the thread, from Eric Busch of Papyrus... "An unsupported beta patch is now available that addresses the CPU speed detection problems in Grand Prix Legends when run on 1.7+ GHz machines. The patch comes in 6 flavors (one for each of the country specific versions of GPL), so be sure to download the appropriate version. * Note that you will need to have the 1.2 patch installed before applying this patch. http://www.papy.com/downloads/gpl_cpufix_us.exe http://www.papy.com/downloads/gpl_cpufix_french.exe http://www.papy.com/downloads/gpl_cpufix_german.exe http://www.papy.com/downloads/gpl_cpufix_italian.exe http://www.papy.com/downloads/gpl_cpufix_spanish.exe http://www.papy.com/downloads/gpl_cpufix_uk.exe Enjoy. Eric/Papyrus www.papy.com" -- Tony Whitley GPLRank -0.54 "On some laps I'd get as many as fifteen corners really right, but Moss, he gets them all right on every lap" - Von Trips after the 1961 German Grand Prix.

Thanks Ken....and thanks, Tony. However, I can read....and you posted "repeated" information. I would like to know the details of the reasons behind this patch....why its needed and how it works.....and what caused the "problem" (yet to be defined) in the first place. I learned quite some time ago.....DO NOT INSTALL "patches" on your computer because someone else thinks you need it. Regards, Tom PS: And how many people could possibly be running systems with a 1.7 Ghz CPU......it would have to be an Intel chip....and there aren't that many of those around (or people stupid enough to buy them....since they are slower than an AMD 1.2 Ghz...for $190 bucks!)? I am encouraged that Papyrus is helping.....what, maybe 15 or 16 people on this planet! That's great news! But, "Could you guys get back to work on N4......or the CART sim.....please?"

>I would like to know the details of the reasons behind this patch....whyits >needed and how it works.....and what caused the "problem" (yet to be >defined) in the first place. I think it goes something like this. When GPL was written, I think a P166 was the standard cpu. Papy designed the timing system inside GPL based on cpu speed. People started noticing that GPL was acting strangely, running at twice the speed, or crashing when used on PCs with cpus running at over 1400mhz. I think the actual figure where GPL stopped working properly is around 1415mhz. It is something to do with the 32 bit integers that GPL uses. When involved in calculations using these fast processors, they were "overflowing" and causing problems. So this new patch fiddles with the gpl.exe in quite a few places, to change the code. I think GPL will now work at speeds up to around 2800mhz, at least thats what people were saying in VROC last night. Gary Hoorn has installed it successfully on his P4 1.7ghz, and Dan Leach tested it on a P3 960 (!!), just to see if it worked, and it did. Lol SpeedFreek.

Thanks Speed......that was exactly what I was looking for....appreciate the information. Take care, Tom

Tom, you're coming across as fairly aggressive, you seem to have some unresolved anger... :-) Or is that just the result of too many coffees today? :-P "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:FJbP6.30370$%[email hidden]... > Thanks Ken....and thanks, Tony. However, I can read....and you posted > "repeated" information. > > I would like to know the details of the reasons behind this patch....whyits > needed and how it works.....and what caused the "problem" (yet to be > defined) in the first place. > > I learned quite some time ago.....DO NOT INSTALL "patches" on yourcomputer

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> because someone else thinks you need it. > > Regards, > > Tom > > PS: And how many people could possibly be running systems with a 1.7 Ghz > CPU......it would have to be an Intel chip....and there aren't that many

of > those around (or people stupid enough to buy them....since they are slower > than an AMD 1.2 Ghz...for $190 bucks!)? I am encouraged that Papyrus is > helping.....what, maybe 15 or 16 people on this planet! That's greatnews! > But, "Could you guys get back to work on N4......or the CART > sim.....please?" > >

My understanding is that its for high speed CPUs. Not exactly sure were the break point is but I think its around the 1.5 mark, but maybe 1.4. Its mostly the P4s with the problem. So unless you have a brand new screamer of a system I don't think you need it. Hope that helps MadDAWG

Tom Pabst wrote: > > PS: And how many people could possibly be running systems with a 1.7 Ghz > CPU......it would have to be an Intel chip....and there aren't that many of > those around (or people stupid enough to buy them....since they are slower > than an AMD 1.2 Ghz...for $190 bucks!)? I am encouraged that Papyrus is > helping.....what, maybe 15 or 16 people on this planet! The future, Tom, the future. In the future people running gpl on faster cpu's will need it. In the future there will be more than 15 or 16 people who need the patch. > That's great news! Yes I agree. > But, "Could you guys get back to work on N4......or the CART > sim.....please?" I'm guessing here, but maybe this speed patch was made in someone's own free time, just like the D3Dpatch was...anyone know? But whatever, I'm grateful for it! And I'm sure all the folks at papy are still working away at N4 and a new CART sim just for you :0/. BTW, have you had a bad day?;) Gerry

Tom Pabst wrote... > <snip> > PS: And how many people could possibly be running systems > with a 1.7 Ghz CPU Everyone in 2 years time. Where did you get the impression people are going to stop using GPL any time soon? Jan. =---

"Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:UWbP6.30404$%[email hidden]... > Thanks Speed......that was exactly what I was looking for....appreciatethe > information. > > Take care, > > Tom > Tom, This information which is as you say "exactly what I was looking for" is repeated information in this newsgroup. Next time be clear about what you do, and do not want repeated :)

"Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<FJbP6.30370$%[email hidden]>...

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> Thanks Ken....and thanks, Tony. However, I can read....and you posted > "repeated" information. > > I would like to know the details of the reasons behind this patch....why its > needed and how it works.....and what caused the "problem" (yet to be > defined) in the first place. > > I learned quite some time ago.....DO NOT INSTALL "patches" on your computer > because someone else thinks you need it. > > Regards, > > Tom

If I knew where you lived, I'd come round and rip the " key off your keyboard :-) "Regards", Ian

>"Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote > Thanks Ken....and thanks, Tony. However, I can read....and you posted > "repeated" information. Geeze Bloody Christ it seems so hard to please you. You want your McFlurry served on a golden plate hmm??? > I would like to know the details of the reasons behind this patch.... Why do you need to know everything about it? It's a patch, it fixes a bug. It's all written in the post you replied to. End of story. It's none of your business to know "why" this bug was in GPL. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

>"Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote > Thanks Ken....and thanks, Tony. However, I can read....and you posted > "repeated" information. Geeze Bloody Christ it seems so hard to please you. You want your McFlurry served on a golden plate hmm??? > I would like to know the details of the reasons behind this patch.... Why do you need to know everything about it? It's a patch, it fixes a bug. It's all written in the post you replied to. End of story. It's none of your business to know "why" this bug was in GPL. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Oh, come on Mike. You know as well as I that, but for a few in this community....visiting RAS much more than once or twice a weeks is about max. How many thousands of posts are made within a week? I went back 5 or 6 days....couldn't find anything about the "reasons for the patch"...so I asked the question again. I don't think I was out of line in so doing. Do you really think I was.....or is there something else that was bugging you? Regarding my "reply" to Ken Verburg......Ken is probably the best friend I have within this sim community....he will probably vouch for that as well. You guys are reading too much into my choice of words....maybe not the best, I admit. But, I've just returned from a week in LA for E3...and have less than 10-days before leaving for London for another week......and with the Winston Cup guys coming in less than a month (and just days after I return from London)....I'm a bit swamped right now....so my email and posts are short (except for this one....lol...). Besides all this, I'm very frustrated....not just for me, but for this entire sim community....that the GF3 release has essentially been a "non-event" for sim racing. That's disappointing....for many, many reasons......not all of which are very public right at the moment. "My apologies" to anyone offended by my remarks or posts........including you, Mike. Regards, Tom

On Thu, 24 May 2001 18:51:39 +0100, "SpeedFreek" <[email hidden]> wrote: ... >So this new patch fiddles with the gpl.exe in quite a few places, >to change the code. I think GPL will now work at speeds up to >around 2800mhz, at least thats what people were saying in >VROC last night. 2.8Ghz, hm, well WSC better be out in a year then, since then we'll be there I guess. ;-) Ruud van Gaal, GPL Rank +53.25 Pencil art : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/ Free car sim : http://www.marketgraph.nl/gallery/racer/

On Fri, 25 May 2001 05:15:57 GMT, "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Besides all this, I'm very frustrated....not just for me, but for this >entire sim community....that the GF3 release has essentially been a >"non-event" for sim racing. That's disappointing....for many, many >reasons......not all of which are very public right at the moment. Tom, the reason is simple. The GF3 is an amazing card and I'd love to have it. And allthough I do have the money to buy it, it's ridiculously overpriced and I refuse to pay more money for my gfx card than I did for my motherboard. I think most people will wait a bit for the price to drop to a normal, for most people affordable level. Andre

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>"My apologies" to anyone offended by my remarks or posts........including >you, Mike. > >Regards, > >Tom > >

Mike White <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9zeP6.29665$[email hidden]...

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> > "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:UWbP6.30404$%[email hidden]... > > Thanks Speed......that was exactly what I was looking for....appreciate > the > > information. > > > > Take care, > > > > Tom > > > > Tom, > > This information which is as you say "exactly what I was looking for" is > repeated information in this newsgroup. > > Next time be clear about what you do, and do not want repeated :) >

Tom likes to pontificate, it makes him feel important.

SpeedFreek wrote: > > > So this new patch fiddles with the gpl.exe in quite a few places, > to change the code. I think GPL will now work at speeds up to > around 2800mhz, at least thats what people were saying in > VROC last night. > hmmm, 2800? Where did that come from? I belive the fix should be sufficient until pcs are at least 4 billion times faster than current machines.

"Grant Reeve" wrote... > hmmm, 2800? Where did that come from? > I belive the fix should be sufficient until pcs are at > least 4 billion times faster than current machines.Typical short-sighted programmer. How are we going to run GPL then? ;-) -- Tony Whitley GPLRank -0.54 "On some laps I'd get as many as fifteen corners really right, but Moss, he gets them all right on every lap" - Von Trips after the 1961 German Grand Prix.

Francois..... Read the "post I replied to" again. It does not define "what the bug is." That is what I was asking information about. Chill out, man. Tom PS: However, I do remember your propensity to start "flame wars" on r.a.s. and on Jacobs newsgroup....seems you are addicted to them. So, being a good friend of yours, I'd like to help you out as follows (...lol...): Talk about "Geeze Bloody Christ," Francois.....what the hell do you care "what or why" I need to know something? When were you appointed the "gatekeeper" of information on R.A.S.? I don't recall you even running for that position, did you? And, what the hell is a "McFlurry" anyway? Is that something "gays and caboose drivers" drink? Its gotta be something like that if you are using the term! ......[ok...the ball is in your court, go man!]

"Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote > Read the "post I replied to" again. It does not define "what the bug is." > That is what I was asking information about. Chill out, man. Yes, it did. He posted the information directly from a Papyrus source. How can you get more information then that? Everything that to be known about the bug was told in the post. You don't need to know anything more. But of course you were arrogant, that was obvious. > PS: However, I do remember your propensity to start "flame wars" onr.a.s. > and on Jacobs newsgroup....seems you are addicted to them. So, being agood > friend of yours, I'd like to help you out as follows (...lol...): No you confuse me and George Ojeda ;-D > Talk about "Geeze Bloody Christ," Francois.....what the hell do you care > "what or why" I need to know something? When were you appointed the > "gatekeeper" of information on R.A.S.? I don't recall you even runningfor > that position, did you? And, what the hell is a "McFlurry" anyway? Isthat > something "gays and caboose drivers" drink? Its gotta be something like > that if you are using the term! ......[ok...the ball is in your court, go > man!] McFlurry's are good. Hmmmm sweet taste of McFlurry, refreshing taste of a McFlurry. Ball is in my court? I don't care I'm letting it pass right through. I also noticed your bigotry towards the gay community. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

On Fri, 25 May 2001 10:57:53 -0400, Grant Reeve <[email hidden]> wrote: >hmmm, 2800? Where did that come from? >I belive the fix should be sufficient until pcs are at >least 4 billion times faster than current machines. GPL FOREVER!!! :) Andre

oem GF3 64 MB = �286 ELSA GF3 64 MB = �303 ELSA GF2 Ultra 64 MB = �273 Creative Labs GF2 GTS 32 MB = �220 not too bad I think. "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > On Fri, 25 May 2001 05:15:57 GMT, "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >Besides all this, I'm very frustrated....not just for me, but for this > >entire sim community....that the GF3 release has essentially been a > >"non-event" for sim racing. That's disappointing....for many, many > >reasons......not all of which are very public right at the moment. > > Tom, the reason is simple. The GF3 is an amazing card and I'd love to > have it. And allthough I do have the money to buy it, it's > ridiculously overpriced and I refuse to pay more money for my gfx card > than I did for my motherboard. I think most people will wait a bit for > the price to drop to a normal, for most people affordable level. > > Andre