Super 1 Karting -- GPL with little wheels?

With all the mods I've been working on, plus a new daughter to keep up with, I've kind of drifted away from mainstream activities like the F1CS2K Rank and the Offline Competition. Mod development and testing leads to a bit of "burn-out" on certain sims for me, as you must test, tweak, test, tweak, and then test some more, and that often takes the "fun" out of whatever title I'm working on or testing. This is why I often find myself playing around with oddball things to serve as an enjoyable diversion. The latest oddball diversion I've found is Super 1 Karting -- have any of you guys tried this? I had the demo for quite a while, but it didn't run on my old video card without crashing, so I forgot about it. After doing a review of a new karting center here in Indy, I found myself bit by the karting bug, so I fired up the Super 1 Karting demo -- it ran well on my new GeForce card, and I was immediately addicted. I'd have to say that this game is the GPL of karting, and I'm definitely hooked. So why hasn't this game made more of a splash here on r.a.s.? I know it lacks multiplayer support, but the AI can be pretty tough, it seems, and the game REALLY seems to have captured the essence of go-kart physics in much the same way that GPL captured the overall physics of a 1967-era Grand Prix car. Are there any dedicated sites for S1K, or any offline leagues on the Web, perhaps? Or are there glaring errors that I haven't noticed yet that have kept the rest of the GPL faithful at bay? Perhaps go-karts are too tame for the GPL faithful? Or are there are a LOT of admirers of S1K just like me, but I'm just the first one to come out of the closet? <G> Great game, and lots of fun. If you haven't tried it, I'd highly recommend checking out the demo. -- JB

At Last!! I have the full game, and I thought I was the only one in the world with this! Good game, especially in full season mode. -- -- Mvh Sven

John, I too have the full game. It is a lot of fun. I haven't played with it much but intend to again soon. Wayne Hutchison "John Bodin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> With all the mods I've been working on, plus a new daughter to keep up > with, I've kind of drifted away from mainstream activities like the > F1CS2K Rank and the Offline Competition. Mod development and testing > leads to a bit of "burn-out" on certain sims for me, as you must test, > tweak, test, tweak, and then test some more, and that often takes the > "fun" out of whatever title I'm working on or testing. This is why I > often find myself playing around with oddball things to serve as an > enjoyable diversion. > > The latest oddball diversion I've found is Super 1 Karting -- have any > of you guys tried this? I had the demo for quite a while, but it > didn't run on my old video card without crashing, so I forgot about > it. After doing a review of a new karting center here in Indy, I found > myself bit by the karting bug, so I fired up the Super 1 Karting demo > -- it ran well on my new GeForce card, and I was immediately addicted. > I'd have to say that this game is the GPL of karting, and I'm > definitely hooked. > > So why hasn't this game made more of a splash here on r.a.s.? I know > it lacks multiplayer support, but the AI can be pretty tough, it > seems, and the game REALLY seems to have captured the essence of > go-kart physics in much the same way that GPL captured the overall > physics of a 1967-era Grand Prix car. > > Are there any dedicated sites for S1K, or any offline leagues on the > Web, perhaps? Or are there glaring errors that I haven't noticed yet > that have kept the rest of the GPL faithful at bay? Perhaps go-karts > are too tame for the GPL faithful? Or are there are a LOT of admirers > of S1K just like me, but I'm just the first one to come out of the > closet? <G> > > Great game, and lots of fun. If you haven't tried it, I'd highly > recommend checking out the demo. > > -- JB > > > >

On Fri, 25 May 2001 20:58:04 GMT, [email hidden] (John Bodin) wrote:

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>With all the mods I've been working on, plus a new daughter to keep up >with, I've kind of drifted away from mainstream activities like the >F1CS2K Rank and the Offline Competition. Mod development and testing >leads to a bit of "burn-out" on certain sims for me, as you must test, >tweak, test, tweak, and then test some more, and that often takes the >"fun" out of whatever title I'm working on or testing. This is why I >often find myself playing around with oddball things to serve as an >enjoyable diversion. > >The latest oddball diversion I've found is Super 1 Karting -- have any >of you guys tried this? I had the demo for quite a while, but it >didn't run on my old video card without crashing, so I forgot about >it. After doing a review of a new karting center here in Indy, I found >myself bit by the karting bug, so I fired up the Super 1 Karting demo >-- it ran well on my new GeForce card, and I was immediately addicted. >I'd have to say that this game is the GPL of karting, and I'm >definitely hooked. > >So why hasn't this game made more of a splash here on r.a.s.? I know >it lacks multiplayer support, but the AI can be pretty tough, it >seems, and the game REALLY seems to have captured the essence of >go-kart physics in much the same way that GPL captured the overall >physics of a 1967-era Grand Prix car. > >Are there any dedicated sites for S1K, or any offline leagues on the >Web, perhaps? Or are there glaring errors that I haven't noticed yet >that have kept the rest of the GPL faithful at bay? Perhaps go-karts >are too tame for the GPL faithful? Or are there are a LOT of admirers >of S1K just like me, but I'm just the first one to come out of the >closet? <G> > >Great game, and lots of fun. If you haven't tried it, I'd highly >recommend checking out the demo. > >-- JB > > > >

At last now we have an S1K community! Michael

Sorry John I respect many of your posts, comments, ideas etc but with this "Super 1 Karting"..? Well I dnloaded the demo but it was too cartoonie for me & I didn't see anything special about it at all!! Did I miss something? Thom_j. "John Bodin" wrote: <snipped> | So why hasn't this game made more of a splash here on r.a.s.? I know | it lacks multiplayer support, but the AI can be pretty tough, it | seems, and the game REALLY seems to have captured the essence of | go-kart physics in much the same way that GPL captured the overall | physics of a 1967-era Grand Prix car.<snipped again>

Thom, Did you try the cockpit view? Also, did you make sure that the "Help" aids were disabled (steering help is NO help at all -- it just slows you down and almost makes the game unplayable)? I think if you've spent any time in go-karts, you might like S1K, but if you haven't, it might not "feel" right since karts don't feel like any other type of vehicle. The "cartoonie" feeling comes from being so close to the ground and wide-open to the world, I think -- the view from a kart does look a lot like a "bumper-cam" view in an arcade racer, for example, and I think this may add to the "cartoonie" feel you experienced, perhaps. Anyway, this may be a love it or hate it kind of thing -- if you have ever gotten behind the wheel of a kart in the past, try to draw on that to give the game a bit of perspective and see what you think. IMO, S1K is about as close to racing in a real kart as you can get at this point (not like S1K has a lot of competition in the sim market, of course, but I do think it's pretty darn good). TTYL! - JB On Sat, 26 May 2001 05:49:31 GMT, "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Sorry John I respect many of your posts, comments, ideas etc but >with this "Super 1 Karting"..? Well I dnloaded the demo but it was >too cartoonie for me & I didn't see anything special about it at all!! >Did I miss something? Thom_j. > >"John Bodin" wrote: ><snipped> >| So why hasn't this game made more of a splash here on r.a.s.? I know >| it lacks multiplayer support, but the AI can be pretty tough, it >| seems, and the game REALLY seems to have captured the essence of >| go-kart physics in much the same way that GPL captured the overall >| physics of a 1967-era Grand Prix car. ><snipped again> > >

On Sat, 26 May 2001 05:35:40 GMT, [email hidden] (Michael Thompson) wrote: <SNIP> > >At last now we have an S1K community! If I may: "If two of us walked in and bought S1K, they'd think we was fags and they wouldn't take either of us. But if three of us walked in put down our money and bought copies of S1K in full harmony then walked out, they'd think it was a movement . . . and that's what it is -- it's the S1K Anti-Massacre Movement, and all you've got to do is join in the next time you find a copy of the full version . . ." (With all due respects and my most sincere apology to Arlo Guthrie! <G>) ;-) -- JB

Who is the developer an publisher of this carting game? John Bodin <[email hidden]> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag: [email hidden]...

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> With all the mods I've been working on, plus a new daughter to keep up > with, I've kind of drifted away from mainstream activities like the > F1CS2K Rank and the Offline Competition. Mod development and testing > leads to a bit of "burn-out" on certain sims for me, as you must test, > tweak, test, tweak, and then test some more, and that often takes the > "fun" out of whatever title I'm working on or testing. This is why I > often find myself playing around with oddball things to serve as an > enjoyable diversion. > > The latest oddball diversion I've found is Super 1 Karting -- have any > of you guys tried this? I had the demo for quite a while, but it > didn't run on my old video card without crashing, so I forgot about > it. After doing a review of a new karting center here in Indy, I found > myself bit by the karting bug, so I fired up the Super 1 Karting demo > -- it ran well on my new GeForce card, and I was immediately addicted. > I'd have to say that this game is the GPL of karting, and I'm > definitely hooked. > > So why hasn't this game made more of a splash here on r.a.s.? I know > it lacks multiplayer support, but the AI can be pretty tough, it > seems, and the game REALLY seems to have captured the essence of > go-kart physics in much the same way that GPL captured the overall > physics of a 1967-era Grand Prix car. > > Are there any dedicated sites for S1K, or any offline leagues on the > Web, perhaps? Or are there glaring errors that I haven't noticed yet > that have kept the rest of the GPL faithful at bay? Perhaps go-karts > are too tame for the GPL faithful? Or are there are a LOT of admirers > of S1K just like me, but I'm just the first one to come out of the > closet? <G> > > Great game, and lots of fun. If you haven't tried it, I'd highly > recommend checking out the demo. > > -- JB > > > >

On Fri, 25 May 2001 20:58:04 GMT, [email hidden] (John Bodin) wrote: I have this and it really is a blast and with the steering mods suggested mahy moons agp by Randy Magruder it really does a damn good job of simulating real Karts. The Tracks are real Tracks (can't comment on their authenticity though). I'd also echo the comments about the AI. I tried the demo and it ran terribly but the full game itself looks and feels much better. If you havent modified your steering, try this : Alter this line to this in USERDATA.TXT Joy1=16368,49168,32168,33368,354,64400,30768,34768,0,0 It basically reduces the deadzone and makes the steering much "quicker", feels much less mushy and more Kart like. Maxx

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> >Great game, and lots of fun. If you haven't tried it, I'd highly >recommend checking out the demo. > >-- JB > > >

> Great game, and lots of fun. If you haven't tried it, I'd highly > recommend checking out the demo. > In the UK, you can pick this game up for �9.99. Also, it's in the 3 for �20 section of H.M.V. Bargain ? I think so.

Thanks for the steering mod. I had forgotten about that one. Much better now! Wayne "Maxx" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Fri, 25 May 2001 20:58:04 GMT, [email hidden] (John > Bodin) wrote: > > I have this and it really is a blast and with the steering mods > suggested mahy moons agp by Randy Magruder it really > does a damn good job of simulating real Karts. > > The Tracks are real Tracks (can't comment on their > authenticity though). I'd also echo the comments about the > AI. > > I tried the demo and it ran terribly but the full game itself > looks and feels much better. > > If you havent modified your steering, try this : > > Alter this line to this in USERDATA.TXT > > Joy1=16368,49168,32168,33368,354,64400,30768,34768,0,0 > > It basically reduces the deadzone and makes the steering much > "quicker", feels much less mushy and more Kart like. > > Maxx > > > >Great game, and lots of fun. If you haven't tried it, I'd highly > >recommend checking out the demo. > > > >-- JB > > > > > > >

"redTed" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9eo0vp$bsfg$[email hidden]... > > > Great game, and lots of fun. If you haven't tried it, I'd highly > > recommend checking out the demo. > > > In the UK, you can pick this game up for �9.99. Also, it's in the 3 for�20 > section of H.M.V. > Bargain ? I think so. > >You can download it from http://realguide.real.com/games/?s=game_download&sub=super1karting for $14.99

I second what Max says about the steering mods -- these are the values I'm using, and they work GREAT! Be advised, though, that if you have "steering help" enabled, it's absolutely NO help at all -- it is actually a hindrance, in fact. I think the game enables various helps (braking, steering, etc.) if you run on anything less than "Ace" difficulty mode, so make sure you check to see if the helps are toggled off. -- JB On Sat, 26 May 2001 08:36:58 GMT, Maxx <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>On Fri, 25 May 2001 20:58:04 GMT, [email hidden] (John >Bodin) wrote: > >I have this and it really is a blast and with the steering mods >suggested mahy moons agp by Randy Magruder it really >does a damn good job of simulating real Karts. > >The Tracks are real Tracks (can't comment on their >authenticity though). I'd also echo the comments about the >AI. > >I tried the demo and it ran terribly but the full game itself >looks and feels much better. > >If you havent modified your steering, try this : > >Alter this line to this in USERDATA.TXT > >Joy1=16368,49168,32168,33368,354,64400,30768,34768,0,0 > >It basically reduces the deadzone and makes the steering much >"quicker", feels much less mushy and more Kart like. > >Maxx >> >>Great game, and lots of fun. If you haven't tried it, I'd highly >>recommend checking out the demo. >> >>-- JB >> >> >> >

The developer is a company called Interatctive-Entertainment, I believe, and I can't find any Web site for them. The publisher was Microids, and this is their site: http://www.microids.com/ S1K is also distributed by Distributed by RealNetworks, Inc, at: http://www.Real.com You can buy the full version of S1K via direct download (27 MB) from Real.com for $14.99, I believe. -- JB On Sat, 26 May 2001 09:56:36 +0200, "Thomas Gatschnegg" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Who is the developer an publisher of this carting game? > >John Bodin <[email hidden]> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag: >[email hidden]... >> With all the mods I've been working on, plus a new daughter to keep up >> with, I've kind of drifted away from mainstream activities like the >> F1CS2K Rank and the Offline Competition. Mod development and testing >> leads to a bit of "burn-out" on certain sims for me, as you must test, >> tweak, test, tweak, and then test some more, and that often takes the >> "fun" out of whatever title I'm working on or testing. This is why I >> often find myself playing around with oddball things to serve as an >> enjoyable diversion. >> >> The latest oddball diversion I've found is Super 1 Karting -- have any >> of you guys tried this? I had the demo for quite a while, but it >> didn't run on my old video card without crashing, so I forgot about >> it. After doing a review of a new karting center here in Indy, I found >> myself bit by the karting bug, so I fired up the Super 1 Karting demo >> -- it ran well on my new GeForce card, and I was immediately addicted. >> I'd have to say that this game is the GPL of karting, and I'm >> definitely hooked. >> >> So why hasn't this game made more of a splash here on r.a.s.? I know >> it lacks multiplayer support, but the AI can be pretty tough, it >> seems, and the game REALLY seems to have captured the essence of >> go-kart physics in much the same way that GPL captured the overall >> physics of a 1967-era Grand Prix car. >> >> Are there any dedicated sites for S1K, or any offline leagues on the >> Web, perhaps? Or are there glaring errors that I haven't noticed yet >> that have kept the rest of the GPL faithful at bay? Perhaps go-karts >> are too tame for the GPL faithful? Or are there are a LOT of admirers >> of S1K just like me, but I'm just the first one to come out of the >> closet? <G> >> >> Great game, and lots of fun. If you haven't tried it, I'd highly >> recommend checking out the demo. >> >> -- JB >> >> >> >> > >

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> On Sat, 26 May 2001 05:35:40 GMT, [email hidden] (Michael > Thompson) wrote: > > <SNIP> > > > >At last now we have an S1K community! > > If I may: > > "If two of us walked in and bought S1K, they'd think we was fags and > they wouldn't take either of us. But if three of us walked in put > down our money and bought copies of S1K in full harmony then walked > out, they'd think it was a movement . . . and that's what it is -- > it's the S1K Anti-Massacre Movement, and all you've got to do is join > in the next time you find a copy of the full version . . ." > > (With all due respects and my most sincere apology to Arlo Guthrie! > <G>) > > ;-) > > -- JB

" And they all looked at me and said, " Kid, what're you in for? And I said," Playing Mario Kart Racing." And they all moved away from me on the bench. KFG

On Sat, 26 May 2001 17:00:28 GMT, "Kevin Gavitt" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> >"John Bodin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> On Sat, 26 May 2001 05:35:40 GMT, [email hidden] (Michael >> Thompson) wrote: >> >> <SNIP> >> > >> >At last now we have an S1K community! >> >> If I may: >> >> "If two of us walked in and bought S1K, they'd think we was fags and >> they wouldn't take either of us. But if three of us walked in put >> down our money and bought copies of S1K in full harmony then walked >> out, they'd think it was a movement . . . and that's what it is -- >> it's the S1K Anti-Massacre Movement, and all you've got to do is join >> in the next time you find a copy of the full version . . ." >> >> (With all due respects and my most sincere apology to Arlo Guthrie! >> <G>) >> >> ;-) >> >> -- JB > >" And they all looked at me and said, " Kid, what're you in for? And I >said," Playing Mario Kart Racing." > >And they all moved away from me on the bench. > >KFG > >

LOL! ROTFPP! LMAO!!!!! :-D -- JB

My (Dutch) version is by Midas Interactive, url is www.midasinteractive.com Direct link to super 1 karting support page is http://www.midas-interactive.nl/support.asp?page=games/superkarting Btw, the trainer mode, with the trainer waiting for you to catch up, is a nice feature to learn new tracks :) Bart Westra "John Bodin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> The developer is a company called Interatctive-Entertainment, I > believe, and I can't find any Web site for them. The publisher was > Microids, and this is their site: > > http://www.microids.com/ > > S1K is also distributed by Distributed by RealNetworks, Inc, at: > > http://www.Real.com > > You can buy the full version of S1K via direct download (27 MB) from > Real.com for $14.99, I believe. >

Oops! Scratch that -- the publisher for S1K was Midas Interactive: http://www.midasinteractive.com/ Microids has a new karting sim coming out called "Open Kart." It was supposed to be released May 15, I think, but other than a few advanced looks, I haven't heard a thing about this -- no reviews, no comments about availability, no reports that it's showing up in stores . . . nothing. Which doesn't bode well for the final product, I fear. -- JB On Sat, 26 May 2001 16:33:26 GMT, [email hidden] (John Bodin) wrote:

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>The developer is a company called Interatctive-Entertainment, I >believe, and I can't find any Web site for them. The publisher was >Microids, and this is their site: > >http://www.microids.com/ > >S1K is also distributed by Distributed by RealNetworks, Inc, at: > >http://www.Real.com > >You can buy the full version of S1K via direct download (27 MB) from >Real.com for $14.99, I believe. > >-- JB > >On Sat, 26 May 2001 09:56:36 +0200, "Thomas Gatschnegg" ><[email hidden]> wrote: > >>Who is the developer an publisher of this carting game? >> >>John Bodin <[email hidden]> schrieb in im Newsbeitrag: >>[email hidden]... >>> With all the mods I've been working on, plus a new daughter to keep up >>> with, I've kind of drifted away from mainstream activities like the >>> F1CS2K Rank and the Offline Competition. Mod development and testing >>> leads to a bit of "burn-out" on certain sims for me, as you must test, >>> tweak, test, tweak, and then test some more, and that often takes the >>> "fun" out of whatever title I'm working on or testing. This is why I >>> often find myself playing around with oddball things to serve as an >>> enjoyable diversion. >>> >>> The latest oddball diversion I've found is Super 1 Karting -- have any >>> of you guys tried this? I had the demo for quite a while, but it >>> didn't run on my old video card without crashing, so I forgot about >>> it. After doing a review of a new karting center here in Indy, I found >>> myself bit by the karting bug, so I fired up the Super 1 Karting demo >>> -- it ran well on my new GeForce card, and I was immediately addicted. >>> I'd have to say that this game is the GPL of karting, and I'm >>> definitely hooked. >>> >>> So why hasn't this game made more of a splash here on r.a.s.? I know >>> it lacks multiplayer support, but the AI can be pretty tough, it >>> seems, and the game REALLY seems to have captured the essence of >>> go-kart physics in much the same way that GPL captured the overall >>> physics of a 1967-era Grand Prix car. >>> >>> Are there any dedicated sites for S1K, or any offline leagues on the >>> Web, perhaps? Or are there glaring errors that I haven't noticed yet >>> that have kept the rest of the GPL faithful at bay? Perhaps go-karts >>> are too tame for the GPL faithful? Or are there are a LOT of admirers >>> of S1K just like me, but I'm just the first one to come out of the >>> closet? <G> >>> >>> Great game, and lots of fun. If you haven't tried it, I'd highly >>> recommend checking out the demo. >>> >>> -- JB >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >

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>If I may: > >"If two of us walked in and bought S1K, they'd think we was fags and >they wouldn't take either of us. But if three of us walked in put >down our money and bought copies of S1K in full harmony then walked >out, they'd think it was a movement . . . and that's what it is -- >it's the S1K Anti-Massacre Movement, and all you've got to do is join >in the next time you find a copy of the full version . . ." > >(With all due respects and my most sincere apology to Arlo Guthrie! ><G>)

What about Alice...?<g> Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +25.37...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (John Bodin) writes: >With all the mods I've been working on, plus a new daughter to keep up >with, I've kind of drifted away from mainstream activities like the >F1CS2K Rank and the Offline Competition. New daughter?!? I don't remember seeing that announcement.. :( Congrats, John! BTW, what's the website for F1CS2K rank? I finally bought it. Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +25.37...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

This sim rocks. It gets little credit for two reasons: 1) Its a karting sim 2) Like so many others, it not GPL :-) It's not perfect but is really really fun. The full game has all real life Super 1 circuits brilliantly detailed yet doesn't require a super machine to run well. FF. is great but very strong unless set up correctly. Brilliant, engine and tyre wear effects, nice rain effects. Driver animation rocks too, no other sim has this so detailed. It's a budget release now so i say go for it as it's cheap and really fun. You can jump in right away and race or you can really shave time off with a realistic kart set-up. A very well modelled set-up as results are really noticeable. John Bodin <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> With all the mods I've been working on, plus a new daughter to keep up > with, I've kind of drifted away from mainstream activities like the > F1CS2K Rank and the Offline Competition. Mod development and testing > leads to a bit of "burn-out" on certain sims for me, as you must test, > tweak, test, tweak, and then test some more, and that often takes the > "fun" out of whatever title I'm working on or testing. This is why I > often find myself playing around with oddball things to serve as an > enjoyable diversion. > > The latest oddball diversion I've found is Super 1 Karting -- have any > of you guys tried this? I had the demo for quite a while, but it > didn't run on my old video card without crashing, so I forgot about > it. After doing a review of a new karting center here in Indy, I found > myself bit by the karting bug, so I fired up the Super 1 Karting demo > -- it ran well on my new GeForce card, and I was immediately addicted. > I'd have to say that this game is the GPL of karting, and I'm > definitely hooked. > > So why hasn't this game made more of a splash here on r.a.s.? I know > it lacks multiplayer support, but the AI can be pretty tough, it > seems, and the game REALLY seems to have captured the essence of > go-kart physics in much the same way that GPL captured the overall > physics of a 1967-era Grand Prix car. > > Are there any dedicated sites for S1K, or any offline leagues on the > Web, perhaps? Or are there glaring errors that I haven't noticed yet > that have kept the rest of the GPL faithful at bay? Perhaps go-karts > are too tame for the GPL faithful? Or are there are a LOT of admirers > of S1K just like me, but I'm just the first one to come out of the > closet? <G> > > Great game, and lots of fun. If you haven't tried it, I'd highly > recommend checking out the demo. > > -- JB > > > >

Yip, tr cockpit view, choking the engine accurately, really learning to drive the karts properly and use the set-up options.... you'll be pleasantly surprised. However if you haven't done karting in real life or else you have and drive high powered machines this isn't your cup of tea I suppose :-( Thom j. <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:LtHP6.6090$[email hidden]...

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> Sorry John I respect many of your posts, comments, ideas etc but > with this "Super 1 Karting"..? Well I dnloaded the demo but it was > too cartoonie for me & I didn't see anything special about it at all!! > Did I miss something? Thom_j. > > "John Bodin" wrote: > <snipped> > | So why hasn't this game made more of a splash here on r.a.s.? I know > | it lacks multiplayer support, but the AI can be pretty tough, it > | seems, and the game REALLY seems to have captured the essence of > | go-kart physics in much the same way that GPL captured the overall > | physics of a 1967-era Grand Prix car. > <snipped again> > >

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> writes: > > >If I may: > > > >"If two of us walked in and bought S1K, they'd think we was fags and > >they wouldn't take either of us. But if three of us walked in put > >down our money and bought copies of S1K in full harmony then walked > >out, they'd think it was a movement . . . and that's what it is -- > >it's the S1K Anti-Massacre Movement, and all you've got to do is join > >in the next time you find a copy of the full version . . ." > > > >(With all due respects and my most sincere apology to Arlo Guthrie! > ><G>) > > What about Alice...?<g> > > Eldred > --

You remember Alice? There's a song about Alice. By the way, I live just a tick over shouting distance from the church. I made the first fretless banjo that Arlo ever saw/played. Nice guy all in all. Who would have thunk it. His kids are getting into the Guthrie family business too these days. Should be interesting. KFG

John, Good post; I bit the $14.99 bullet and d'loaded the game. Works well, but I cannot get it to detect the pedals of my Logitech WFF (1st version). Any ideas, or is there a user site that might address that problem? I've noticed that at the Midas Interactive support site http://www.midas-interactive.nl/ ), a patch is available. Have you tried it? If so, what does it address? cheers, David K "John Bodin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > With all the mods I've been working on, plus a new daughter to keep up > with, I've kind of drifted away from mainstream activities like the[snip]

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> >"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (John >Bodin) >> writes: >> >> >If I may: >> > >> >"If two of us walked in and bought S1K, they'd think we was fags and >> >they wouldn't take either of us. But if three of us walked in put >> >down our money and bought copies of S1K in full harmony then walked >> >out, they'd think it was a movement . . . and that's what it is -- >> >it's the S1K Anti-Massacre Movement, and all you've got to do is join >> >in the next time you find a copy of the full version . . ." >> > >> >(With all due respects and my most sincere apology to Arlo Guthrie! >> ><G>) >> >> What about Alice...?<g> >> >> Eldred >> -- > >You remember Alice? There's a song about Alice. > >By the way, I live just a tick over shouting distance from the church. I >made the first fretless banjo that Arlo ever saw/played. Nice guy all in >all. Who would have thunk it. > >His kids are getting into the Guthrie family business too these days. Should >be interesting. > >KFG

Cool! That begs the question, though -- how are you with rakes, shovels, and implements of destruction? And whatever happened to the 27 8x10 color glossy photos with the circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one explaining what each one was to be used against us in a court of law? And what, I wonder, would the judge's seeing-eye dog think of S1K? ;-) -- JB

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> >"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (John >Bodin) >> writes: >> >> >If I may: >> > >> >"If two of us walked in and bought S1K, they'd think we was fags and >> >they wouldn't take either of us. But if three of us walked in put >> >down our money and bought copies of S1K in full harmony then walked >> >out, they'd think it was a movement . . . and that's what it is -- >> >it's the S1K Anti-Massacre Movement, and all you've got to do is join >> >in the next time you find a copy of the full version . . ." >> > >> >(With all due respects and my most sincere apology to Arlo Guthrie! >> ><G>) >> >> What about Alice...?<g> >> >> Eldred >> -- > >You remember Alice? There's a song about Alice. > >By the way, I live just a tick over shouting distance from the church. I >made the first fretless banjo that Arlo ever saw/played. Nice guy all in >all. Who would have thunk it.

FWIW, my wife is a banjo player and also an Arlo Guthrie fan. I was reading this thread to her and she asked the following question: "Hmmm . . . I wonder if this is how Arlo Guthrie was able to get involved in the peace movement? Because he had a fretless banjo, he no longer had to worry . . ." She's not into sim racing, but she's tolerant of my habit, cute as all get-out, and she's got a great sense of humor -- am I a lucky guy or what? ;-) - JB

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> > In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (John Bodin) > writes: > > >If I may: > > > >"If two of us walked in and bought S1K, they'd think we was fags and > >they wouldn't take either of us. But if three of us walked in put > >down our money and bought copies of S1K in full harmony then walked > >out, they'd think it was a movement . . . and that's what it is -- > >it's the S1K Anti-Massacre Movement, and all you've got to do is join > >in the next time you find a copy of the full version . . ." > > > >(With all due respects and my most sincere apology to Arlo Guthrie! > ><G>) > > What about Alice...?<g>

And all them pictures with lines & arrows and a paragraph on the back explaining what each one was... -- Fester

>"John Bodin" <[email hidden]> wrote > Great game, and lots of fun. If you haven't tried it, I'd highly > recommend checking out the demo. Was that the game that modeled real European karting tracks? The demo was very enjoyable, a nice combination of fun and seriousness. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Oop. Nevermind--I got the combined pedals working anyway. Doesn't seem to work w/separate axes though. cheers, David "David Karr" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9ep0up$rkd$[email hidden]... > John, > > Good post; I bit the $14.99 bullet and d'loaded the game. Works well, butI > cannot get it to detect the pedals of my Logitech WFF (1st version). Any [snip]

JOHN!!! What did you say here? "cute as all get-out" Ok Lets See Pics!! YeeeeeeHaaaaaaa....Btw I have been Frettless for years but also Fretted too..Been playing all fretted & frettless instruments for over 46years now! Yup my "nick" use to be "Fretts"..:-) G-Clef Thom_j. "John Bodin" wrote: | She's not into sim racing, but she's tolerant of my habit, cute as all | get-out, and she's got a great sense of humor -- am I a lucky guy or | what? | ;-) | - JB

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>This sim rocks. >It gets little credit for two reasons: >1) Its a karting sim >2) Like so many others, it not GPL :-) > >It's not perfect but is really really fun. >The full game has all real life Super 1 circuits brilliantly detailed yet >doesn't require a super machine to run well. >FF. is great but very strong unless set up correctly. >Brilliant, engine and tyre wear effects, nice rain effects. >Driver animation rocks too, no other sim has this so detailed. > >It's a budget release now so i say go for it as it's cheap and really fun. >You can jump in right away and race or you can really shave time off with a >realistic kart set-up. >A very well modelled set-up as results are really noticeable. >

I tried the demo,thought it sucked.Wtih the post here,I just had to try the full version. NICE!With no helps and in simulation mode,this is pretty damn fun! The feeling of speed is great,nice graphics,funner than hell driving on the limit.The tracks are challenging,with my favorite so far being Buckmore Park.Thanks for raving about it guys,it's a nice addition to the collection! Dave K

Well, since you asked: http://members.iquest.net/~jbodin/ Around my house, even the dogs are cute -- but not as cute as the ladies, of course! ;-) FWIW, Tammy's just a beginning banjo player, but she loves it. She also plays the hammered dulcimer, but the banjo is the first fretted, stringed instrument she's played. She's taking to it very well -- pretty impressive lady, in more ways than one! ;-D -- JB On Sat, 26 May 2001 22:11:36 GMT, "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>JOHN!!! What did you say here? "cute as all get-out" Ok Lets See Pics!! >YeeeeeeHaaaaaaa....Btw I have been Frettless for years but also Fretted >too..Been playing all fretted & frettless instruments for over 46years now! >Yup my "nick" use to be "Fretts"..:-) >G-Clef Thom_j. > >"John Bodin" wrote: >| She's not into sim racing, but she's tolerant of my habit, cute as all >| get-out, and she's got a great sense of humor -- am I a lucky guy or >| what? >| ;-) >| - JB > > >

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>>"John Bodin" <[email hidden]> wrote >> Great game, and lots of fun. If you haven't tried it, I'd highly >> recommend checking out the demo. > > >Was that the game that modeled real European karting tracks? The demo was >very enjoyable, a nice combination of fun and seriousness.

That's the one, Frank -- and as good as the demo was, the full version is actually MUCH better. A VERY pleasant surprise -- like I said, "GPL with little wheels." ;-) -- JB

In article <sSVP6.7807$[email hidden]>, "Thom j." <[email hidden]> writes: >JOHN!!! What did you say here? "cute as all get-out" Ok Lets See Pics!! >YeeeeeeHaaaaaaa....Btw I have been Frettless for years but also Fretted >too..Been playing all fretted & frettless instruments for over 46years now! >Yup my "nick" use to be "Fretts"..:-) You've been *playing* for more than 46 years??? Just how old ARE you...?<g> I considered getting a fretless jazz bass at one time, but I'd have to work too hard at it. :0 Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +25.37...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

FYI, Tocca (Thomas R.), who runs the F1CS2000 Offline Championship is considering starting an offline league for Super 1 Karting. If you'd like to express your interest, check out this thread on the High Gear forum: http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~hg/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&postid=96999#post96999 If the link doesn't work, visit the High Gear forums and check out the thread titled "Super1 Karting competition?" under the General Racing Sims forum: http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~hg/vbulletin/index.php?s= Enjoy! -- JB

Ok Now! Does she have a sister? Hmmm? For me, I basically love all types of music. My classical training began at the tender age of 4..:o) I do prefer blues, jazz, a little country and if it is on a 'sheet or on a radio' I can usually find the key and play along with most tunes.. Classical music is a different story. All structure!! Anywayz thanx for sharing the photo and say hola` to Tammy!! Cheers Thom_j. "John Bodin" wrote:

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| Well, since you asked: | http://members.iquest.net/~jbodin/ | Around my house, even the dogs are cute -- but not as cute as the | ladies, of course! | ;-) | FWIW, Tammy's just a beginning banjo player, but she loves it. She | also plays the hammered dulcimer, but the banjo is the first fretted, | stringed instrument she's played. She's taking to it very well -- | pretty impressive lady, in more ways than one! | ;-D | -- JB

Ok Mr Eldred... Are you ready?? I am 53 [soon to be 54] years young! I'm one hip old son of a bitch!! :o)~ And not half bad on a track either! So there... hahaha Gramps Thom_j. "EldredP" wrote: | You've been *playing* for more than 46 years??? Just how old AREyou...?<g> | I considered getting a fretless jazz bass at one time, but I'd have towork too | hard at it. :0 | | Eldred

Well after seeing some Swiss-Hutler<sp> shifter 125 and 250cc 2 stroke karts at Mid Ohio supporting the TransAm series, this sounded great. To cut this short I'm glad I ferreted out a warez copy first cause its not that good IMHO. Bad sound, all single speed karts (bleh) so no shifting, minimal setup options, no smoke effects. I set the userdata joystick sens upgrade, sim mode, no helpers nearly all full graphics and ran a few race weekends, somewhat fun but not long term, I can't believe anyone could say this is the GPL of karting. I've an entire 8 lap standing start race video from an onboard cam from a French indoor shifter kart race that gives me goose bumps every time I watch it from the sheer sense of speed and driver ferocity tempered with extremely clean minimal contact passing. This game is not that. Jason http://www.jasonfagan.com -----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! -----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =-----

On 27 May 2001 04:23:01 -0500, [email hidden] (JasonF) wrote: >somewhat fun but not long term, I can't believe anyone could say >this is the GPL of karting. Thom put it as a question, not a statement, all credit to the developers though, they have tried to make it realistic as well as fun, it's just a shame the market is so small for this type of product, a better demo and online play may have helped. If you are looking for a pretty realistic simulation with even smaller wheels, try Revolt (sim of radio-controlled cars). Demo is very good and full game is pretty addictive. Where else can you get a feel for what it's like to be 5 inches tall driving an RC car (yes, theres a cockpit view - well bumper really). Get it at places like www.avault.com Maxx

I just dont see all the "hooplah" either! and the GPL of karting? Well then they must be no other karts sims out there cuz' as I said before this is too cartoonie for me and more arcade then sim.. jmho.. "JasonF" wrote: <snipped> | To cut this short I'm glad I ferreted out a warez copy first cause its not | that good IMHO. Bad sound, all single speed karts (bleh) so no shifting, | minimal setup options, no smoke effects. I set the userdata joystick sens | upgrade, sim mode, no helpers nearly all full graphics and ran a few race | weekends, somewhat fun but not long term, I can't believe anyone could say | this is the GPL of karting.<snipped again>

Got it! Had it for a long time! Love it for what it is! :o) Great graphics. Great 3d. Great levels! I like the 'space' type level a lot.... Well done! Now if the made a kart sim like 'Revolt' I'd give it 2 thumbs and 2 big toes up!! :o) "Maxx" <[email hidden]> wrote in message | If you are looking for a pretty realistic simulation with even | smaller wheels, try Revolt (sim of radio-controlled cars). | Maxx

It don't support split axis. Combine axis and it works fine. David Karr <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9ep0up$rkd$[email hidden]... > John, > > Good post; I bit the $14.99 bullet and d'loaded the game. Works well, butI

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> cannot get it to detect the pedals of my Logitech WFF (1st version). Any > ideas, or is there a user site that might address that problem? > > I've noticed that at the Midas Interactive support site > http://www.midas-interactive.nl/ ), a patch is available. Have you tried > it? If so, what does it address? > > cheers, > David K > > > "John Bodin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > With all the mods I've been working on, plus a new daughter to keep up > > with, I've kind of drifted away from mainstream activities like the > [snip] > >

Have you ever DRIVEN a non-shifter 2-stroke racing kart??? Super 1 Karting does a GREAT job of simulating that experience. Yeah, it doesn't model shifter karts, but GPL doesn't model Can-Am cars -- in both cases, I have to say, "So what?" That's not what it's all about. Non-shifter karts have minimal setup options; karting is minimalistic racing, so what do want -- something less than realistic??? When it comes to non-shifter karts, Super 1 Karting pretty much IS "GPL with little wheels" at this point -- and it's going to be tough for someone to come up with a kart sim that models the genre better than S1K. If you don't like it, that's fine, but make sure you're judging it for what it is, not for what it's not. -- JB On 27 May 2001 04:23:01 -0500, [email hidden] (JasonF) wrote:

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>Well after seeing some Swiss-Hutler<sp> shifter 125 and 250cc 2 stroke >karts at Mid Ohio supporting the TransAm series, this sounded great. > >To cut this short I'm glad I ferreted out a warez copy first cause its not >that good IMHO. Bad sound, all single speed karts (bleh) so no shifting, >minimal setup options, no smoke effects. I set the userdata joystick sens >upgrade, sim mode, no helpers nearly all full graphics and ran a few race >weekends, somewhat fun but not long term, I can't believe anyone could say >this is the GPL of karting. > >I've an entire 8 lap standing start race video from an onboard cam from a >French indoor shifter kart race that gives me goose bumps every time I >watch it from the sheer sense of speed and driver ferocity tempered with >extremely clean minimal contact passing. This game is not that. > >Jason >http://www.jasonfagan.com > > >-----= Posted via Newsfeeds.Com, Uncensored Usenet News =----- >http://www.newsfeeds.com - The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! >-----== Over 80,000 Newsgroups - 16 Different Servers! =-----

"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <sSVP6.7807$[email hidden]>, "Thom j." > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >JOHN!!! What did you say here? "cute as all get-out" Ok Lets See Pics!! > >YeeeeeeHaaaaaaa....Btw I have been Frettless for years but also Fretted > >too..Been playing all fretted & frettless instruments for over 46yearsnow! > >Yup my "nick" use to be "Fretts"..:-) > > You've been *playing* for more than 46 years??? Just how old AREyou...?<g> > I considered getting a fretless jazz bass at one time, but I'd have towork too

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> hard at it. :0 > > Eldred > -- > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > F1 hcp. +25.37...F2 +151.26... > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply. You might be surprised at how easy fretless is. For the first couple of hours you'll feel a bit lost, but after that you'll wonder what all the trouble was. The first time I heard a fretless bass was on a Michael Hedges album. I wanted to know who the French Horn player was! You can get some really great sound from a fretless. Thom's been playing about 3 years longer than I have, but I seem to have gotten a slightly earlier start. The old fart. KFG

On Mon, 28 May 2001 17:07:04 GMT, "Kevin Gavitt" <[email hidden]> wrote: [major snip] >Thom's been playing about 3 years longer than I have, but I seem to have >gotten a slightly earlier start. The old fart. I just had to check back on this thread to see how we got talking about playing fretless bass's etc. It suddenly made me think that many of my muso mates are also in Motor Racing and Computers. Havent really kept in touch with them for a while so not sure if they are into GPL but could it be there is some link here i.e. Music(as in playing), Computer - Motor Racing - Sim playing ?? I've never played a fretless bass but love Stanley Clarke, solo and when he was with Chic Corea. I played Guitar/Keyboards and even had the odd warble back in the 70s/80s a few bands and more gigs than I can remember but never anything of significance. Well we did support Lemmy (Motorhead) once, but that was only out of the pub as he was so pi**ed :-) Any other muso sim players out there ? Maxx

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> On Mon, 28 May 2001 17:07:04 GMT, "Kevin Gavitt" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > [major snip] > >Thom's been playing about 3 years longer than I have, but I seem to have > >gotten a slightly earlier start. The old fart. > > I just had to check back on this thread to see how we got talking > about playing fretless bass's etc. It suddenly made me think that > many of my muso mates are also in Motor Racing and Computers. > > Havent really kept in touch with them for a while so not sure if > they are into GPL but could it be there is some link here i.e. > > Music(as in playing), Computer - Motor Racing - Sim playing ?? > > I've never played a fretless bass but love Stanley Clarke, solo > and when he was with Chic Corea. I played Guitar/Keyboards > and even had the odd warble back in the 70s/80s a few bands > and more gigs than I can remember but never anything of > significance. Well we did support Lemmy (Motorhead) once, > but that was only out of the pub as he was so pi**ed :-) > > Any other muso sim players out there ?

Oh yeah. I learned to play the guitar by a friend back in 89-90, and in 91 i bought my first bass-guitar, since we planned on starting a band together and a bass player was needed :) It was a really cheap korean thing $270 at the time, but it was fun. My mother dropped her jaw to the floor when I asked her to drive me to the music shop to buy a instrument (i was 16 then). The band we finally managed to put together was real crap, and we basically played a lot of Metallica songs. It was a nice time indeed. Then I moved to begin at the University and i got in tough with a band where we explored the more extreme directions of music, so I had to buy a 5 string since the old 4 string couldn't handle a fat B-string instead of the E :) A very nice Ibanez, which i still use today. Around 96 i left the band and my band aspirations are over. I have a mp3 of one of our "hit's" from that period i can mail if you are interested. It's one of our first songs we wrote, so it pretty basic, but still so experimental that it lifted some eyebrows. Two years ago a friend of mine bought a drum-kit, and i started to explore that one. So now i'm playing the drums more than i play the bass. I came to the conclusion that i'm not good at picking the tones and keys, so i'm a lot more comfortable with doing only rhythms. Two friends of mine and myself have a band where we only play well-known songs at our own parties. It's mighty fun because we only do it for fun and there is no aspirations and pressure :) Opps, a little bit too long answer here :) -- Olav K. Malmin remove .spam when replying

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> Two years ago a friend of mine bought a drum-kit, and i started to > explore that one. So now i'm playing the drums more than i play the > bass. I came to the conclusion that i'm not good at picking the tones > and keys, so i'm a lot more comfortable with doing only rhythms. Two > friends of mine and myself have a band where we only play well-known > songs at our own parties. It's mighty fun because we only do it for > fun and there is no aspirations and pressure :) > > Opps, a little bit too long answer here :) > > -- > Olav K. Malmin > remove .spam when replying

What do you call a person who likes to hang out with musicians? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . A drummer. KFG

<snip> What do you call a person who likes to hang out with musicians? . . . . . . . . . . . . . . A drummer. KFG

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> "Olav K. Malmin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > <snip> > > > Two years ago a friend of mine bought a drum-kit, and i started to > > explore that one. So now i'm playing the drums more than i play the > > bass. I came to the conclusion that i'm not good at picking the tones > > and keys, so i'm a lot more comfortable with doing only rhythms. Two > > friends of mine and myself have a band where we only play well-known > > songs at our own parties. It's mighty fun because we only do it for > > fun and there is no aspirations and pressure :) > > > > Opps, a little bit too long answer here :) > > > > -- > > Olav K. Malmin > > remove .spam when replying > > > What do you call a person who likes to hang out with musicians? > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > . > A drummer.

Oooooh, very funny indeed :D But there is a point to it, when we played for around 40 people at the 2000 new years eve, all the other musicians got all the attention from the girls (we has someone on saxophone and trumpet too) while the stupid guy hiding behind all that round-shaped metal and barrel-looking things was left with the option of just trying to play cool with no result whatoever :) -- Olav K. Malmin remove .spam when replying

LOL Kevin, I kinda' low balled my years playing.. I started at 4yrs/old & was playing an upright frettless bass by 7yrs/old {+many other types of instruments}So Ahmm 53 -7=46. no I was right....lol I did play the Viola at 5yrs/old but we wont count that...lol Btw: Yes I am an Old Fart!! TankU Berry Much!! :o)~ "Kevin Gavitt" wrote: | You might be surprised at how easy fretless is. For the first couple of | hours you'll feel a bit lost, but after that you'll wonder what all the | trouble was. | | The first time I heard a fretless bass was on a Michael Hedges album. I | wanted to know who the French Horn player was! You can get some reallygreat | sound from a fretless. | | Thom's been playing about 3 years longer than I have, but I seem to have | gotten a slightly earlier start. The old fart. | | KFG

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>Oooooh, very funny indeed :D > >But there is a point to it, when we played for around 40 people at the >2000 new years eve, all the other musicians got all the attention from >the girls (we has someone on saxophone and trumpet too) while the >stupid guy hiding behind all that round-shaped metal and >barrel-looking things was left with the option of just trying to play >cool with no result whatoever :)

Keyboard players don't get much attention, either - *trust* me. When I was in a band, all the groupies went for either the singer or lead guitar player... :( Eldred - frustrated keyboard player...<g> -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +24.63...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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> Maxx <[email hidden]> writes: > >> On Mon, 28 May 2001 17:07:04 GMT, "Kevin Gavitt" >> <[email hidden]> wrote: >> >> [major snip] >> >Thom's been playing about 3 years longer than I have, but I seem to >> >have gotten a slightly earlier start. The old fart. >> >> I just had to check back on this thread to see how we got talking >> about playing fretless bass's etc. It suddenly made me think that >> many of my muso mates are also in Motor Racing and Computers. >> >> Havent really kept in touch with them for a while so not sure if >> they are into GPL but could it be there is some link here i.e. >> >> Music(as in playing), Computer - Motor Racing - Sim playing ?? >> >> I've never played a fretless bass but love Stanley Clarke, solo >> and when he was with Chic Corea. I played Guitar/Keyboards >> and even had the odd warble back in the 70s/80s a few bands >> and more gigs than I can remember but never anything of >> significance. Well we did support Lemmy (Motorhead) once, >> but that was only out of the pub as he was so pi**ed :-) >> >> Any other muso sim players out there ? > > Oh yeah. I learned to play the guitar by a friend back in 89-90, and > in 91 i bought my first bass-guitar, since we planned on starting a > band together and a bass player was needed :) It was a really cheap > korean thing $270 at the time, but it was fun. My mother dropped her > jaw to the floor when I asked her to drive me to the music shop to buy > a instrument (i was 16 then). The band we finally managed to put > together was real crap, and we basically played a lot of Metallica > songs. It was a nice time indeed. Then I moved to begin at the > University and i got in tough with a band where we explored the more > extreme directions of music, so I had to buy a 5 string since the old > 4 string couldn't handle a fat B-string instead of the E :) A very > nice Ibanez, which i still use today. Around 96 i left the band and my > band aspirations are over. I have a mp3 of one of our "hit's" from > that period i can mail if you are interested. It's one of our first > songs we wrote, so it pretty basic, but still so experimental that it > lifted some eyebrows. > > Two years ago a friend of mine bought a drum-kit, and i started to > explore that one. So now i'm playing the drums more than i play the > bass. I came to the conclusion that i'm not good at picking the tones > and keys, so i'm a lot more comfortable with doing only rhythms. Two > friends of mine and myself have a band where we only play well-known > songs at our own parties. It's mighty fun because we only do it for > fun and there is no aspirations and pressure :) > > Opps, a little bit too long answer here :)

One more here:) I will save some space, because my answer would be almost the same as Olav's, except I was playing (well, trying to play) solo-guitar. Also a lot of Metallica's songs as well as other heavy staff as well as making attempts to write our own music (without much success). Though I didn't play for 7-8 years. Shall we suggest a "Musician Cup" at GPLRank? :> Alex (alexti)

"Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:JvBQ6.12054$[email hidden]... > LOL Kevin, I kinda' low balled my years playing.. I started at 4yrs/old > & was playing an upright frettless bass by 7yrs/old {+many other types > of instruments}So Ahmm 53 -7=46. no I was right....lol I did play the > Viola at 5yrs/old but we wont count that...lol > Btw: Yes I am an Old Fart!! TankU Berry Much!! :o)~ > What's the difference between a trampoline and viola? . . . . . . . . . . . . . You take your shoes OFF to jump on a trampoline. KFG

What's the difference between a ***oline and viola? . . . . . . . . . . . . . You take your shoes OFF to jump on a ***oline. KFG

I'll stupidly bite, What? "Kevin Gavitt" wrote: | What's the difference between a trampoline and viola?

I'll stupidly bite, What? | What's the difference between a ***oline and viola?

"Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:AZFQ6.12636$[email hidden]...

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> I'll stupidly bite, What? > > "Kevin Gavitt" wrote: > | What's the difference between a trampoline and viola? > > >

You didn't scroll down to the answer : ) KFG

> I'll stupidly bite, What? > | What's the difference between a ***oline and viola? You didn't scroll down to the answer : ) KFG

Duh it was almost 2am so my cabaza` was almost in shut-off mode... I'll look back at ur witty answer :o) Cheers "Kevin Gavitt" wrote:

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| "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message | news:AZFQ6.12636$[email hidden]... | > I'll stupidly bite, What? | > | > "Kevin Gavitt" wrote: | > | What's the difference between a trampoline and viola? | | You didn't scroll down to the answer : ) | | KFG

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Alex) writes: >One more here:) I will save some space, because my answer would be >almost the same as Olav's, except I was playing (well, trying to play) >solo-guitar. Also a lot of Metallica's songs as well as other heavy >staff as well as making attempts to write our own music (without much >success). Though I didn't play for 7-8 years. Shall we suggest a >"Musician Cup" at GPLRank? :> Please don't. I don't think I could stand doing poorly in *another* ranking...<g> Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +24.63...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.