Re: Get LEADFOOT NOW!!!

On Sat, 26 May 2001 04:37:13 GMT, RazorBird <[email hidden]> wrote: >Just got back from Best Buy. >Got a copy of LEADFOOT for 20 bucks. Find it hard to believe that Best Buy and CompUSA has this title a week before EB. What's up with that? So how is the in-truck vision in Leadfoot? Concerned that with the tight turns in stadium racing you might need to run this one from a different viewpoint. Driving outside the cockpit view just seems arcadish to me.

Does this game have a good framerate on your system, and what kind of system specs do you have ? Also, do the tracks have ruts and other irregularities to deal with ? "RazorBird" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... Just got back from Best Buy. Got a copy of LEADFOOT for 20 bucks. All I can say is WOW! This feels like GPL in DIRT. Take SODA, the jumps of Motorcross Madness 2, Add options up the butt, then add nice graphics and you have LEADFOOT. The jumps alone will make your stomach flip. DISCLAIMER I DO NOT WORK FOR RATBAG, WIZARD WORKS, THE CIA, FBI, ATF, OR ANY OTHER 3 LETTER AGENCIES. IN FACT I AM AN UNEMPLOYED BUM. ANYONE FOUND TO CONTRADICT ANYTHING I SAY WILL BE SHOT WITH A PELLET RIFLE IN THE LEFT PINKY TOE UNTIL YOU CRY UNCLE. THIS OFFER IS FOR A LIMITED TIME AND CERTAIN RESTRICTIONS APPLY. VOID IF READ BETWEEN 12:01 AM AND 11:59 PM SUNDAY THRU SATURDAY. OFFER ONLY VALID IN ALASKA AND SOME SMALL TROPICAL ISLAND.

Great FPS on my P3 800 at 1024x768 with all deatil on max, this game really rocks :). Tracks are really cool im not sure if they dig up as time goes by but they sure are rough. Hotdog On Sat, 26 May 2001 08:02:24 GMT, "Olly Greenfield" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Does this game have a good framerate on your system, and what kind of system >specs do you have ? >Also, do the tracks have ruts and other irregularities to deal with ? Hotdog

I would rather see some National type races than just the indoor stadioum races, but I guess thats what this game is all about. The only thing I dont like is no shot of the track when choosing which track to rasce at next, and the track design is a ittle behind what actual sadium races are like. . Fun game just cant expect a-ton for $20. Charlie B Serial # 19781010 <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Great FPS on my P3 800 at 1024x768 with all deatil on max, this game > really rocks :). > > Tracks are really cool im not sure if they dig up as time goes by but > they sure are rough. > > Hotdog > > On Sat, 26 May 2001 08:02:24 GMT, "Olly Greenfield" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Does this game have a good framerate on your system, and what kind of

system > >specs do you have ? > >Also, do the tracks have ruts and other irregularities to deal with ? > > Hotdog >

>"Charlie B" <[email hidden]> wrote > the track design is a ittle behind what actual sadium races are like Thanks Hans, I'll skip. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Defiently more of a first impression menard, and the Offline races do indeed show a shot of the track (kinda). There are some more outdoor looing tracks I guess I should open the manual... Just wanted to not that there are many good things about this sim, especially for $20 Charlie ymenard <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:frQP6.3279$[email hidden]...

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> >"Charlie B" <[email hidden]> wrote > > the track design is a ittle behind what actual sadium races are like > > Thanks Hans, I'll skip. > > > > > > -- > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > -- May the Downforce be with you... > -- http://www.ymenard.com/ > -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez > Corporation - helping America into the New World... > > > > >

>"Charlie B" <[email hidden]> wrote > Defiently more of a first impression menard, and the Offline races do > indeed show a shot of the track (kinda). There are some more outdoorlooing > tracks I guess I should open the manual... Just wanted to not thatthere > are many good things about this sim, especially for $20 LOL okay I'm struggling. One side of my tells me "well what the heck it could be fun for 20bucks" but on the other it somehow goes "Cmon Frank, SODA is still quite fun, why waste 20$ on tracks that are like that".. Ahhhhh eternal struggle ;-D -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

On Sat, 26 May 2001 04:37:13 GMT, RazorBird <[email hidden]> scribbled:

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>Just got back from Best Buy. >Got a copy of LEADFOOT for 20 bucks. > >All I can say is WOW! >This feels like GPL in DIRT. >Take SODA, the jumps of Motorcross Madness 2, Add options up the >butt, then add nice graphics and you have LEADFOOT. > >The jumps alone will make your stomach flip.

It also apparently doesn't like Win2k. :(

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>DISCLAIMER >I DO NOT WORK FOR RATBAG, WIZARD WORKS, THE CIA, FBI, ATF, OR ANY >OTHER 3 LETTER AGENCIES. IN FACT I AM AN UNEMPLOYED BUM. >ANYONE FOUND TO CONTRADICT ANYTHING I SAY WILL BE SHOT WITH A >PELLET RIFLE IN THE LEFT PINKY TOE UNTIL YOU CRY UNCLE. >THIS OFFER IS FOR A LIMITED TIME AND CERTAIN RESTRICTIONS APPLY. >VOID IF READ BETWEEN 12:01 AM AND 11:59 PM SUNDAY THRU SATURDAY. >OFFER ONLY VALID IN ALASKA AND SOME SMALL TROPICAL ISLAND.

Woohoo! Finally, us Alaskans get in on something. -Slash -- "Ebert Victorious" - The Onion

On Sat, 26 May 2001 04:37:13 GMT, RazorBird It also apparently doesn't like Win2k. :( Woohoo! Finally, us Alaskans get in on something. -Slash -- "Ebert Victorious" - The Onion

The tracks are nothing like Soda, this is definately worth the $20. Mike Grandy Proud Member of Precision Racing Internet Race Team 3 A Champion Forever-Godspeed Dale "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:BQUP6.2060$[email hidden]... >"Charlie B" <[email hidden]> wrote > Defiently more of a first impression menard, and the Offline races do > indeed show a shot of the track (kinda). There are some more outdoor looing > tracks I guess I should open the manual... Just wanted to not that there > are many good things about this sim, especially for $20 LOL okay I'm struggling. One side of my tells me "well what the heck it could be fun for 20bucks" but on the other it somehow goes "Cmon Frank, SODA is still quite fun, why waste 20$ on tracks that are like that".. Ahhhhh eternal struggle ;-D -- -- François Ménard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

The only problem with Ratbags games is that if I play on a LAN with someone, we are the only 2 cars on the track. With DTR and DTR Sprints you can not have AI cars in a LAN game. If this has not changed I'll have to pass. buzard "RazorBird" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... Just got back from Best Buy. Got a copy of LEADFOOT for 20 bucks. All I can say is WOW! This feels like GPL in DIRT. Take SODA, the jumps of Motorcross Madness 2, Add options up the butt, then add nice graphics and you have LEADFOOT. The jumps alone will make your stomach flip. DISCLAIMER I DO NOT WORK FOR RATBAG, WIZARD WORKS, THE CIA, FBI, ATF, OR ANY OTHER 3 LETTER AGENCIES. IN FACT I AM AN UNEMPLOYED BUM. ANYONE FOUND TO CONTRADICT ANYTHING I SAY WILL BE SHOT WITH A PELLET RIFLE IN THE LEFT PINKY TOE UNTIL YOU CRY UNCLE. THIS OFFER IS FOR A LIMITED TIME AND CERTAIN RESTRICTIONS APPLY. VOID IF READ BETWEEN 12:01 AM AND 11:59 PM SUNDAY THRU SATURDAY. OFFER ONLY VALID IN ALASKA AND SOME SMALL TROPICAL ISLAND.

I raced w/ 8 tonight through GameSpy Arcade, all drivers had pings under 250ms. Ultra Light buggies are alot more fun than the trucks on these smaller trax. Sense of speed is nice. Gearing is tough. How many clutches you guys run? Multiplayer is excellent. Charlie B Mike Grandy <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:DKYP6.56754$[email hidden]... The tracks are nothing like Soda, this is definately worth the $20. Mike Grandy Proud Member of Precision Racing Internet Race Team 3 A Champion Forever-Godspeed Dale "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:BQUP6.2060$[email hidden]... >"Charlie B" <[email hidden]> wrote > Defiently more of a first impression menard, and the Offline races do > indeed show a shot of the track (kinda). There are some more outdoor looing > tracks I guess I should open the manual... Just wanted to not that there > are many good things about this sim, especially for $20 LOL okay I'm struggling. One side of my tells me "well what the heck it could be fun for 20bucks" but on the other it somehow goes "Cmon Frank, SODA is still quite fun, why waste 20$ on tracks that are like that".. Ahhhhh eternal struggle ;-D -- -- François Ménard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

It is a fun game but it's no GPL in dirt, one BIG bad point is the cars jump wrong that type of racing a bit like super/motorX is as much about driving the cars in the air as much as on the ground. In Leadfoot this is just missing if you press the throttle while in the air the front end should come up if you brake it should go down but in Leadfoot nothing happens, I don't want to sound picky but this is a big miss. Apart from that it is good fun but imo games like Rally Masters have far better physics. "RazorBird" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... Just got back from Best Buy. Got a copy of LEADFOOT for 20 bucks. All I can say is WOW! This feels like GPL in DIRT. Take SODA, the jumps of Motorcross Madness 2, Add options up the butt, then add nice graphics and you have LEADFOOT. The jumps alone will make your stomach flip. DISCLAIMER I DO NOT WORK FOR RATBAG, WIZARD WORKS, THE CIA, FBI, ATF, OR ANY OTHER 3 LETTER AGENCIES. IN FACT I AM AN UNEMPLOYED BUM. ANYONE FOUND TO CONTRADICT ANYTHING I SAY WILL BE SHOT WITH A PELLET RIFLE IN THE LEFT PINKY TOE UNTIL YOU CRY UNCLE. THIS OFFER IS FOR A LIMITED TIME AND CERTAIN RESTRICTIONS APPLY. VOID IF READ BETWEEN 12:01 AM AND 11:59 PM SUNDAY THRU SATURDAY. OFFER ONLY VALID IN ALASKA AND SOME SMALL TROPICAL ISLAND.

I definetly agree w/ this. Brakes should affect it too. Charlie B Alex Cameron <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:AZ7Q6.4473$[email hidden]... > It is a fun game but it's no GPL in dirt, one BIG bad point is the carsjump > wrong that type of racing a bit like super/motorX is as much about driving > the cars in the air as much as on the ground. In Leadfoot this is just > missing if you press the throttle while in the air the front end shouldcome

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> up if you brake it should go down but in Leadfoot nothing happens, I don't > want to sound picky but this is a big miss. Apart from that it is good fun > but imo games like Rally Masters have far better physics. > > "RazorBird" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > Just got back from Best Buy. > Got a copy of LEADFOOT for 20 bucks. > > All I can say is WOW! > This feels like GPL in DIRT. > Take SODA, the jumps of Motorcross Madness 2, Add options up the > butt, then add nice graphics and you have LEADFOOT. > > The jumps alone will make your stomach flip. > > DISCLAIMER > I DO NOT WORK FOR RATBAG, WIZARD WORKS, THE CIA, FBI, ATF, OR ANY > OTHER 3 LETTER AGENCIES. IN FACT I AM AN UNEMPLOYED BUM. > ANYONE FOUND TO CONTRADICT ANYTHING I SAY WILL BE SHOT WITH A > PELLET RIFLE IN THE LEFT PINKY TOE UNTIL YOU CRY UNCLE. > THIS OFFER IS FOR A LIMITED TIME AND CERTAIN RESTRICTIONS APPLY. > VOID IF READ BETWEEN 12:01 AM AND 11:59 PM SUNDAY THRU SATURDAY. > OFFER ONLY VALID IN ALASKA AND SOME SMALL TROPICAL ISLAND. > > > > >

Really? Not challenging, but I just don't get the physics of why accelerating or braking has ANY effect on a car not in contact with the ground. I could see engine torque playing a part in causing the car to rotate obliquely on its axis a bit while airborne, but nothing else. I raced dirt years ago (anyone remember Bultaco?) and can tell you that unless somethings changed, the only thing you could do when airborne was shift your weight to keep the bike right for landing. More curious than anything else.. G Patricks

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>On Sun, 27 May 2001 14:15:05 GMT, "Alex Cameron" <[email hidden]> wrote: >It is a fun game but it's no GPL in dirt, one BIG bad point is the cars jump >wrong that type of racing a bit like super/motorX is as much about driving >the cars in the air as much as on the ground. In Leadfoot this is just >missing if you press the throttle while in the air the front end should come >up if you brake it should go down but in Leadfoot nothing happens, I don't >want to sound picky but this is a big miss. Apart from that it is good fun >but imo games like Rally Masters have far better physics. >

Watch any modern MotoX or Supercross racing. Those guys alternate between stopping the front wheel in the air or the rear depending on how and where they want to land. Using the brakes should have a very big impact on the inflight attitude of the car. After all, you have 4 very large rotating masses on a car, the gyroscopic effects of these spinning wheels is pretty tremendous. soo stopping that rotation via the brakes should make a profound difference. Oh yes...I remember Bultaco's and Maico's and Husky's. I got to ride another Spanish marque..I think it was a Montessa...whoooo! dave henrie "G Patricks" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Really? Not challenging, but I just don't get the physics of why > accelerating or braking has ANY effect on a car not in contact with > the ground. I could see engine torque playing a part in causing the > car to rotate obliquely on its axis a bit while airborne, but nothing > else. I raced dirt years ago (anyone remember Bultaco?) and can tell > you that unless somethings changed, the only thing you could do when > airborne was shift your weight to keep the bike right for landing. > > More curious than anything else.. > > G Patricks > > >On Sun, 27 May 2001 14:15:05 GMT, "Alex Cameron" <[email hidden]>

wrote: > >It is a fun game but it's no GPL in dirt, one BIG bad point is the carsjump > >wrong that type of racing a bit like super/motorX is as much aboutdriving > >the cars in the air as much as on the ground. In Leadfoot this is just > >missing if you press the throttle while in the air the front end shouldcome > >up if you brake it should go down but in Leadfoot nothing happens, Idon't > >want to sound picky but this is a big miss. Apart from that it is goodfun > >but imo games like Rally Masters have far better physics. > > >

It's the rotating mass of the wheels and it 100% definatly does happen like that (with 1/10th scale off road r/c cars, and GPL ;)) "G Patricks" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Really? Not challenging, but I just don't get the physics of why > accelerating or braking has ANY effect on a car not in contact with > the ground. I could see engine torque playing a part in causing the > car to rotate obliquely on its axis a bit while airborne, but nothing > else. I raced dirt years ago (anyone remember Bultaco?) and can tell > you that unless somethings changed, the only thing you could do when > airborne was shift your weight to keep the bike right for landing. > > More curious than anything else.. > > G Patricks > > >On Sun, 27 May 2001 14:15:05 GMT, "Alex Cameron" <[email hidden]>

wrote: > >It is a fun game but it's no GPL in dirt, one BIG bad point is the carsjump > >wrong that type of racing a bit like super/motorX is as much aboutdriving > >the cars in the air as much as on the ground. In Leadfoot this is just > >missing if you press the throttle while in the air the front end shouldcome > >up if you brake it should go down but in Leadfoot nothing happens, Idon't > >want to sound picky but this is a big miss. Apart from that it is goodfun > >but imo games like Rally Masters have far better physics. > > >

Ok Davie H now its ur turn!! How old are you cuz my first real un-professional race bike was a Bull & then a Husky. You cant be this old? aka 60s. Btw: you are "spot-on" about the spinning wheels in the air.. I'm impressed!! Not that I make a diff.. :o) "Dave Henrie" wrote: | Watch any modern MotoX or Supercross racing. Those guys alternatebetween

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| stopping the front wheel in the air or the rear depending on how and where | they want to land. Using the brakes should have a very big impact on the | inflight attitude of the car. After all, you have 4 very large rotating | masses on a car, the gyroscopic effects of these spinning wheels is pretty | tremendous. soo stopping that rotation via the brakes should make a | profound difference. | Oh yes...I remember Bultaco's and Maico's and Husky's. I got to ride | another Spanish marque..I think it was a Montessa...whoooo! | dave henrie

Alex Cameron <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:7XaQ6.7694$[email hidden]... > It's the rotating mass of the wheels and it 100% definatly doeshappen like > that (with 1/10th scale off road r/c cars, and GPL ;)) You beat me to it ;-) In 1/10th off road, learning to 'fly' the car over jumps and tabletops is definitely part of the art. Much like Flugplatz, indeed! Jonny > "G Patricks" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Really? Not challenging, but I just don't get the physics of why > > accelerating or braking has ANY effect on a car not in contactwith > > the ground. I could see engine torque playing a part in causingthe > > car to rotate obliquely on its axis a bit while airborne, butnothing > > else. I raced dirt years ago (anyone remember Bultaco?) and cantell > > you that unless somethings changed, the only thing you could dowhen > > airborne was shift your weight to keep the bike right for landing. > > > > More curious than anything else.. > > > > G Patricks

My first bike was the very first Honda two stroke...the MT 250 and it's racing equivilant the CR 250 Elsinore. I'm in my mid 40's last I checked... (ps...ever try and get warranty work from a Honda Mechanic when all he's ever seen is 4 strokes???) dave(not as old as Tom but more ma....nawwwww)henrie "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:E8eQ6.9557$[email hidden]...

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> Ok Davie H now its ur turn!! How old are you cuz my first real > un-professional race bike was a Bull & then a Husky. You cant > be this old? aka 60s. Btw: you are "spot-on" about the spinning > wheels in the air.. I'm impressed!! Not that I make a diff.. :o) > > "Dave Henrie" wrote: > | Watch any modern MotoX or Supercross racing. Those guys alternate > between > | stopping the front wheel in the air or the rear depending on how and

where > | they want to land. Using the brakes should have a very big impact onthe > | inflight attitude of the car. After all, you have 4 very large rotating > | masses on a car, the gyroscopic effects of these spinning wheels ispretty

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> | tremendous. soo stopping that rotation via the brakes should make a > | profound difference. > | Oh yes...I remember Bultaco's and Maico's and Husky's. I got to ride > | another Spanish marque..I think it was a Montessa...whoooo! > | dave henrie > > >

"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> writes:

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> Watch any modern MotoX or Supercross racing. Those guys alternate between > stopping the front wheel in the air or the rear depending on how and where > they want to land. Using the brakes should have a very big impact on the > inflight attitude of the car. After all, you have 4 very large rotating > masses on a car, the gyroscopic effects of these spinning wheels is pretty > tremendous. soo stopping that rotation via the brakes should make a > profound difference.

I think you mean inertia, not gyroscopic effect. The gyroscopic effect helps keep the rubber side down, but it is the inertia of the wheels that gets transferred to the whole car when you use the brake and make it tip it's nose down. -- -asbjxrn

but isn't a gyroscope just a spinning wheel?? Don't worry if I'm wrong...it won't be the last time..:) (i guess the gyroscope effect would be like TURNING the front wheel in mid air..and like you said the Inertia comes from stopping or not stopping a wheel's spin.-- is that closer to the truth?) dave henrie "Asbj�rn Bj�rnstad" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> writes: > > > Watch any modern MotoX or Supercross racing. Those guys alternatebetween > > stopping the front wheel in the air or the rear depending on how andwhere > > they want to land. Using the brakes should have a very big impact onthe > > inflight attitude of the car. After all, you have 4 very large rotating > > masses on a car, the gyroscopic effects of these spinning wheels ispretty

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> > tremendous. soo stopping that rotation via the brakes should make a > > profound difference. > > I think you mean inertia, not gyroscopic effect. The gyroscopic effect > helps keep the rubber side down, but it is the inertia of the wheels > that gets transferred to the whole car when you use the brake and make > it tip it's nose down. > -- > -asbjxrn

Hey nut ball!! OMG I am laughing to hard to type.. phew.. Anyway what in the hell is: "ma....nawwwww" anyway? Damn ur funny!! "Dave Henrie" wrote: | My first bike was the very first Honda two stroke...the MT 250 and it's | racing equivilant the CR 250 Elsinore. | I'm in my mid 40's last I checked... | (ps...ever try and get warranty work from a Honda Mechanic when all he's | ever seen is 4 strokes???) | dave(not as old as Tom but more ma....nawwwww)henrie

"Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:FYkQ6.10214$[email hidden]... > Hey nut ball!! OMG I am laughing to hard to type.. phew.. > Anyway what in the hell is: "ma....nawwwww" anyway?<engage George Bush Sr mode> "Won't go there...wouldn't be prudent." <disengage BFs mode> dh

"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> writes: > but isn't a gyroscope just a spinning wheel?? > Don't worry if I'm wrong...it won't be the last time..:) > (i guess the gyroscope effect would be like TURNING the front wheel in mid > air..and like you said the Inertia comes from stopping or not stopping a > wheel's spin.-- is that closer to the truth?) Yes. If you can handle the math: http://www.accs.net/users/cefpearson/gyro.htm Basically, if you try to tilt a gyro, you will experience a force 90 degrees to the direction of the tilt. This is gyroscopic forces. But if you spin up/brake a wheel, you will experience a force in the opposite direction of the way you accelerate/brake the wheel due to inertia. (This is why you have a tail rotor on helicopters, to stop the cockpit from spinning the opposite way of the rotor.(Oversimplify? Me? Nahh.) -- -asbjxrn