Best F1 Sim???

Hey F1 racers, Due to a system change in my cable TV system I now get Speedvision and I have enjoyed the numerous types of Auto and Motorcycle racing.especially the Formula 1 this morning at Monaco!!!! Now I need to buy the latest F1 Simulator game. but which one ??? F1 RC ? GP3?? Others??? Any advice is appreciated !!!!!!!!!!!!! As always, THANKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Tim A. Deatherage [email hidden] www.timdeatheragecpa.com

i like GP3 Tim Deatherage <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:AY7Q6.21947$[email hidden]... > Hey F1 racers, > > Due to a system change in my cable TV system I now get Speedvision and I > have enjoyed the numerous types of Auto and Motorcycle racing.especiallythe

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> Formula 1 this morning at Monaco!!!! > > Now I need to buy the latest F1 Simulator game. but which one ??? > > F1 RC ? > GP3?? > Others??? > > Any advice is appreciated !!!!!!!!!!!!! > > As always, THANKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Tim A. Deatherage > [email hidden] > www.timdeatheragecpa.com > > >

Although dated, I was partial to F12000. I haven't been able to find F12CS locally yet, may end up ordering it. Don Burnette "rik anthrax" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:NJ8Q6.37792$[email hidden]... > i like GP3 > Tim Deatherage <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:AY7Q6.21947$[email hidden]... > > Hey F1 racers, > > > > Due to a system change in my cable TV system I now get Speedvision andI

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> > have enjoyed the numerous types of Auto and Motorcycle racing.especially > the > > Formula 1 this morning at Monaco!!!! > > > > Now I need to buy the latest F1 Simulator game. but which one ??? > > > > F1 RC ? > > GP3?? > > Others??? > > > > Any advice is appreciated !!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > As always, THANKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > > > Tim A. Deatherage > > [email hidden] > > www.timdeatheragecpa.com > > > > > > > >

The first modern F1 sim I tried after GPL was F1 2000 and I hated it. I had high hopes as I presumed it would be step up from SCGT, however I was very dissapointed. I believed GP3 would come and maybe even be better than GPL. Again highly dissapointed, instead of progressing from 1996 (GP2) to 2000, Geoff Crammond decided to stay in 1997. Some aspects of the game I like, especially the weather but it is really not what you would expect in a sim post-GPL. When F1CS2K came out I dismissed it as F1 2000 re-badged to allow EA to rake in a few million more. I then tried a demo I recieved on a cover disk and WOW! What an improvment over F1 2000. Everything was 100% better, the graphics run smoothly, the physics are vastly improved, the sound is at least starting to resemble that of a GP car and some of the tracks are actually looking like their real life versions (though I still think GP3 is more accurate with track renditions). Hopefully F1 2001 will carry on with more improvements. Chris -- Simbokza GPL FD League www.simbokza.com Remove _YOUR_CLOTHES before replying by e-mail "Tim Deatherage" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:AY7Q6.21947$[email hidden]... > Hey F1 racers, > > Due to a system change in my cable TV system I now get Speedvision and I > have enjoyed the numerous types of Auto and Motorcycle racing.especially the > Formula 1 this morning at Monaco!!!! > > Now I need to buy the latest F1 Simulator game. but which one ??? > > F1 RC ? > GP3?? > Others??? > > Any advice is appreciated !!!!!!!!!!!!! > > As always, THANKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Tim A. Deatherage > [email hidden] > www.timdeatheragecpa.com > > >

I don't play it much because it affects my GPL driving but imo F1RC is the best in almost every department apart from AI and whether modelling (GP3) to me it is the only one that feels right, and it also looks amazing :-) "Tim Deatherage" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:AY7Q6.21947$[email hidden]... > Hey F1 racers, > > Due to a system change in my cable TV system I now get Speedvision and I > have enjoyed the numerous types of Auto and Motorcycle racing.especiallythe

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> Formula 1 this morning at Monaco!!!! > > Now I need to buy the latest F1 Simulator game. but which one ??? > > F1 RC ? > GP3?? > Others??? > > Any advice is appreciated !!!!!!!!!!!!! > > As always, THANKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Tim A. Deatherage > [email hidden] > www.timdeatheragecpa.com > > >

I don't play it much because it affects my GPL driving but imo F1RC is the best in almost every department apart from AI and whether modelling (GP3) to me it is the only one that feels right, and it also looks amazing :-) "Tim Deatherage" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:AY7Q6.21947$[email hidden]... > Hey F1 racers, > > Due to a system change in my cable TV system I now get Speedvision and I > have enjoyed the numerous types of Auto and Motorcycle racing.especiallythe

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> Formula 1 this morning at Monaco!!!! > > Now I need to buy the latest F1 Simulator game. but which one ??? > > F1 RC ? > GP3?? > Others??? > > Any advice is appreciated !!!!!!!!!!!!! > > As always, THANKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Tim A. Deatherage > [email hidden] > www.timdeatheragecpa.com > > >

On Sun, 27 May 2001 18:05:31 GMT, "Alex Cameron" <[email hidden]> wrote: >I don't play it much because it affects my GPL driving but imo F1RC is the >best in almost every department apart from AI and whether modelling (GP3) to >me it is the only one that feels right, and it also looks amazing :-) > Yea, but the AI is appalling. I would'nt recommend F1RC to anyone until there is a patch that fixes the AI. Unless you just want to hotlap. I would probably recommend FICS2000 over GP3, but not by much.

tried them all, despite the bugs F1RC is the king of the hill by far (excluding GPL ofcourse). LM "Tim Deatherage" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:AY7Q6.21947$[email hidden]... > Hey F1 racers, > > Due to a system change in my cable TV system I now get Speedvision and I > have enjoyed the numerous types of Auto and Motorcycle racing.especiallythe

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> Formula 1 this morning at Monaco!!!! > > Now I need to buy the latest F1 Simulator game. but which one ??? > > F1 RC ? > GP3?? > Others??? > > Any advice is appreciated !!!!!!!!!!!!! > > As always, THANKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Tim A. Deatherage > [email hidden] > www.timdeatheragecpa.com > > >

"O" Hell Tim... Buy them all.. I did!! lol Oops no F1RC tho'... Heck I still have F1RS loaded...:o) P.S. I think you sent me an email but I lost it somehow.. Sorry.. please re-send it..ok?? Cheers Thom_j. "Tim Deatherage" wrote: | Hey F1 racers, | Due to a system change in my cable TV system I now get Speedvision and I | have enjoyed the numerous types of Auto and Motorcycle racing.especiallythe

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| Formula 1 this morning at Monaco!!!! | Now I need to buy the latest F1 Simulator game. but which one ??? | F1 RC ? | GP3?? | Others??? | Any advice is appreciated !!!!!!!!!!!!! | As always, THANKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | Tim A. Deatherage | [email hidden] | www.timdeatheragecpa.com

>"Tim Deatherage" <[email hidden]> wrote > Now I need to buy the latest F1 Simulator game. but which one ??? We need a FAQ gents... ;-) Tim, somebody posted the same question not even a day ago. Imho, if you want to buy the "latest", well that leaves only one, F1RC. It's the best of the worst. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Don, you might as well wait for the 2001 version now.. "Don Burnette" wrote: | Although dated, I was partial to F12000. I haven't been able to find F12CS | locally yet, may end up ordering it. | Don Burnette

When is it due out? Don "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:fUdQ6.9502$[email hidden]... > Don, you might as well wait for the 2001 version now.. > > "Don Burnette" wrote: > | Although dated, I was partial to F12000. I haven't been able to findF12CS > | locally yet, may end up ordering it. > | Don Burnette > > >

When is it due out? Don > Don, you might as well wait for the 2001 version now.. > | Although dated, I was partial to F12000. I haven't been able to find F12CS > | locally yet, may end up ordering it. > | Don Burnette

I had heard before the end of the season, and I had heard a better graphics engine was being built...that may slow things down. I am suspicious...They quickly produced F12k because it was a port really of SCGT. Then the CS update was mostly AI fixes and some graphic speedups..although I havent' seen too much more fps with CS. Finally a whole new graphics engine for 2001. I would suppose to get that out in less than a year would mean another prebuilt engine was being used..any chance the SBK2001 guys have been helping out ISI??? dave henrie "Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:lVdQ6.78674$[email hidden]...

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> When is it due out? > > Don > > > "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:fUdQ6.9502$[email hidden]... > > Don, you might as well wait for the 2001 version now.. > > > > "Don Burnette" wrote: > > | Although dated, I was partial to F12000. I haven't been able to find > F12CS > > | locally yet, may end up ordering it. > > | Don Burnette > > > > > > > >

Doesnt EA Sports have a newer F12001 coming out after the E3 Expo? "Don Burnette" wrote: | When is it due out? | Don

Now Dave if they did this EA would finally have used their heads in a fantastically positive direction! Woo it would kick azz!! "Dave Henrie" wrote: <snipped> | I would suppose to get that out in less | than a year would mean another prebuilt engine was being used..any chance | the SBK2001 guys have been helping out ISI??? | dave henrie<snipped again>

"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:V6eQ6.66577$[email hidden]... > I had heard before the end of the season, and I had heard a better > graphics engine was being built...that may slow things down. I am > suspicious...They quickly produced F12k because it was a port really of > SCGT. Then the CS update was mostly AI fixes and some graphic > speedups..although I havent' seen too much more fps with CS. Finally a > whole new graphics engine for 2001. I would suppose to get that out inless > than a year would mean another prebuilt engine was being used..any chance > the SBK2001 guys have been helping out ISI??? > dave henrie Hey Dave, I remember you taking me to task about two years ago for suggesting that the EA ought to have the SBK team help out ISI with their graphics engine. :) KFG

"Kevin Gavitt" <[email hidden]> wrote in > Hey Dave, I remember you taking me to task about two years ago for > suggesting that the EA ought to have the SBK team help out ISI with their > graphics engine. :) > > KFG Something to the effect, that although EA produces both titles, they are NOT made by the same programmers so it would be almost impossible for such a feat to occur.??? I still feel that was a fairly accurate statement. But I just wonder how the ISI guys can junk three years of code and get it out the door in less than a year. Of course as much CROW as I've been eating lately, maybe I'd better refill the salt shaker.. dave henrie

At the risk of sounding redundant (I've posted this before, but it addresses your question): I have GP3, Ubisoft's F1 Racing Championship (F1RC), and EA's F1 Championship Season 2000 (F1CS2K), and I would wholeheartedly recommend F1CS2K as the closest thing to GPL in terms of modern F1 sims. I have a Duron 750 with a GeForce256 card, and F1CS2K runs fine, so use this as a benchmark for your possible performance. Also, check out the demo and see for yourself: http://www.3dfiles.com/games/f1championshipseason2000.shtml There is a TON of third-party support for F1CS2K, including a CART conversion and a Trans Am conversion, and also an advanced physics patch that I put together that really makes the physics come alive (you can find that at the Blackhole Motorsports site, and I believe it works fine with the demo). The High Gear forum has a VERY active F1CS2K community, and there are lots of helpful people there: http://dynamic.gamespy.com/~hg/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=23 There is also an F1CS2K Rank site, much like the GPLRank: http://f1cs2krank.dhs.org/ And also an active offline competition as well: http://hem.spray.se/redeby/f1/offline.htm Of the three current modern F1 sims, F1CS2K wins hands-down as far as I'm concerned. Enjoy! -- JB On Sun, 27 May 2001 09:14:54 -0500, "Tim Deatherage" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>Hey F1 racers, > >Due to a system change in my cable TV system I now get Speedvision and I >have enjoyed the numerous types of Auto and Motorcycle racing.especially the >Formula 1 this morning at Monaco!!!! > >Now I need to buy the latest F1 Simulator game. but which one ??? > >F1 RC ? >GP3?? >Others??? > >Any advice is appreciated !!!!!!!!!!!!! > >As always, THANKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > >Tim A. Deatherage >[email hidden] >www.timdeatheragecpa.com > > >

On Sun, 27 May 2001 22:30:50 GMT, "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> >"Kevin Gavitt" <[email hidden]> wrote in > Hey Dave, I remember you >taking me to task about two years ago for >> suggesting that the EA ought to have the SBK team help out ISI with their >> graphics engine. :) >> >> KFG > Something to the effect, that although EA produces both titles, they are >NOT made by the same programmers so it would be almost impossible for such a >feat to occur.??? > I still feel that was a fairly accurate statement. But I just wonder how >the ISI guys can junk three years of code and get it out the door in less >than a year.

Because they've been working on F1 2001 since before F1 2000 was released. The F1CS2000 update was done by two or three guys at ISI, so they didn't really commit too much of their resources to that -- the bulk of their effort has been put into developing the new F1 2001 engine. > Of course as much CROW as I've been eating lately, maybe I'd better refill >the salt shaker.. That might be a good idea! ;-) -- JB

>"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote > But I just wonder how the ISI guys can junk three years of code and get itout the door in less > than a year. Well, they did that at Papyrus. They probably were working on it before the other releases. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Yeah! Thom go Here: http://www.pcgameplay.co.uk/Previews/f12001/f12001.htm Cheers, David. TopLoader. Melbourne, Australia. "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:0MeQ6.9695$[email hidden]... > Doesnt EA Sports have a newer F12001 coming out after the E3 Expo? >

Here we go again. ;) Cheers, David. TopLoader. Melbourne, Australia. "Tim Deatherage" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:AY7Q6.21947$[email hidden]... > Hey F1 racers, > > Due to a system change in my cable TV system I now get Speedvision and I > have enjoyed the numerous types of Auto and Motorcycle racing.especiallythe

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> Formula 1 this morning at Monaco!!!! > > Now I need to buy the latest F1 Simulator game. but which one ??? > > F1 RC ? > GP3?? > Others??? > > Any advice is appreciated !!!!!!!!!!!!! > > As always, THANKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Tim A. Deatherage > [email hidden] > www.timdeatheragecpa.com > > >

Right now, the best of F1200CS, GP3, and F1RC is definitely F1RC. The best graphics in any sim, and a superb physics model. A patch is to be released soon (ignore the conspiracy theorists here at r.a.s.). GP3 has a lot going for it, but the graphics are dated, and the driving model seems too forgiving compared to F12000 and F1RC. I was one of the first here at r.a.s. to say F12000 was excellent. It does many things well, but after F1RC, it doesn't hold up anymore. F12001 by EA may be something special. In the meantime, F1RC is the way to go. David G Fisher "Tim Deatherage" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:AY7Q6.21947$[email hidden]... > Hey F1 racers, > > Due to a system change in my cable TV system I now get Speedvision and I > have enjoyed the numerous types of Auto and Motorcycle racing.especiallythe

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> Formula 1 this morning at Monaco!!!! > > Now I need to buy the latest F1 Simulator game. but which one ??? > > F1 RC ? > GP3?? > Others??? > > Any advice is appreciated !!!!!!!!!!!!! > > As always, THANKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Tim A. Deatherage > [email hidden] > www.timdeatheragecpa.com > > >

"David G Fisher" <[email hidden]> wrote > A patch is to be released soon Oh hihihih I always am in the need for humour ;-) -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Wow!! Now this looks like the stuff that SBK was made of & if they can get all running like a real F1 EA will have a winner! Thanx for the info TopLoader!! Cheers Thom_j. "TopLoader" wrote: | Yeah! Thom go Here: | http://www.pcgameplay.co.uk/Previews/f12001/f12001.htm

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> Yeah! Thom go Here: > http://www.pcgameplay.co.uk/Previews/f12001/f12001.htm > > Cheers, David. > TopLoader. > Melbourne, Australia. > "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:0MeQ6.9695$[email hidden]... > > Doesnt EA Sports have a newer F12001 coming out after the E3 Expo? > > > > >

Now THAT looks nice! ISI has always been held back by the graphics engine that they inherited with the SCGT project. It was, and is, horrible. I havn't bought a modern F1 sim since MGPRS. This one looks like it might be worth my money. KFG

Damn Fran�ois, whats wrong with you?? Its 1000% true F1RC2.. hahaha "ymenard" wrote:

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| > "David G Fisher" tried to write: | > A patch is to be released soon | Oh hihihih I always am in the need for humour ;-) | -- | -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> | -- May the Downforce be with you... | -- http://www.ymenard.com/ | -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez | Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Ditto Kevin and more importantly!! 2 Tumbs & Big Toes Up!!! :o) "Kevin Gavitt" wrote: | Now THAT looks nice! ISI has always been held back by the graphics engine | that they inherited with the SCGT project. It was, and is, horrible. | | I havn't bought a modern F1 sim since MGPRS. This one looks like it mightbe | worth my money. | KFG

F12000 Championship Season is the one. Period. -- [email hidden] "Tim Deatherage" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:AY7Q6.21947$[email hidden]... > Hey F1 racers, > > Due to a system change in my cable TV system I now get Speedvision and I > have enjoyed the numerous types of Auto and Motorcycle racing.especially the > Formula 1 this morning at Monaco!!!! > > Now I need to buy the latest F1 Simulator game. but which one ??? > > F1 RC ? > GP3?? > Others??? > > Any advice is appreciated !!!!!!!!!!!!! > > As always, THANKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Tim A. Deatherage > [email hidden] > www.timdeatheragecpa.com > > >

"Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:82lQ6.10215$[email hidden]... > Ditto Kevin and more importantly!! 2 Tumbs & Big Toes Up!!! :o) > Ah, but can you count to 21 without taking your clothes off? : ) KFG

Hell I cant count beyond 10 without taking my shoes off!! :o)~ Tuffest part tho' is getting my stinkie hole'ie socks off eeeew "Kevin Gavitt" wrote: | Ah, but can you count to 21 without taking your clothes off? : ) | KFG

F1RC followed by F1CS .....just buy them both....there both cheap

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> Hey F1 racers, > > Due to a system change in my cable TV system I now get Speedvision and I > have enjoyed the numerous types of Auto and Motorcycle racing.especially the > Formula 1 this morning at Monaco!!!! > > Now I need to buy the latest F1 Simulator game. but which one ??? > > F1 RC ? > GP3?? > Others??? > > Any advice is appreciated !!!!!!!!!!!!! > > As always, THANKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Tim A. Deatherage > [email hidden] > www.timdeatheragecpa.com

Hey Tim.....Tim here. Welcome to Speedvision! Great variety of racing for sure, though the F1 race at Monaco was not nearly as exciting as the others this year. You have much to look forward to! I think the F1 season so far had been the wildest in years...and it's still early! It makes a huge difference learning the tracks ahead of time by driving a sim, for sure. Have fun!!! Tim

If your after best overall I'd go for GP3. Allthough dated graphics the physics and feel beat the other sims hands down. EA's titles are to arcade'ish and so is Ubi-Softs to some extent. Biggest problem with F1 2000 is the physics and the tracks are not particulary well modelled. Best thing with F1 2000 is the cockpit and how you see the front tires move :) . Ubisofts F1 racing is purdy and have somethings going for it. But nothing beats GP3 overall. Only drawback with Gp3 is the slightly dated graphics but its ok if you get some seasonpackage and the fact that the AI sometimes is quite frustrating. AI drivers keep forgeting to break and hits you frequently in the back. /Blackhawk /Blackhawk "Tim Deatherage" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:AY7Q6.21947$[email hidden]... > Hey F1 racers, > > Due to a system change in my cable TV system I now get Speedvision and I > have enjoyed the numerous types of Auto and Motorcycle racing.especiallythe

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> Formula 1 this morning at Monaco!!!! > > Now I need to buy the latest F1 Simulator game. but which one ??? > > F1 RC ? > GP3?? > Others??? > > Any advice is appreciated !!!!!!!!!!!!! > > As always, THANKS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! > > Tim A. Deatherage > [email hidden] > www.timdeatheragecpa.com > > >

Anyone know where to pick up F1RC in the US? Online or Onfoot? "Leo Merikallio" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<9erpkv$f9m$[email hidden]>... > tried them all, despite the bugs F1RC is the king of the hill by far > (excluding GPL ofcourse). > > LM