Monaco GP

I certainly hope all the cars with launch control all work correctly today. That grid is WAY too narrow to have 4 cars stall like 2 weeks ago... :( Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +25.37...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

G'day Eldred, I'll give you 5:1 there's a pile up :)) I'm ready.......cumffy chair,cleaned the screen,chips & oh! nearly forgot...... Bourbon & Coke!! Another late night in OZ. Cheers, David. TopLoader. Melbourne, Australia.

U lost.. lol A few stupid smashes 'i.e. Montoya.. but no pile ups! :o) Pass those damn chips over here, will ya?? hahaha "TopLoader" wrote:

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| G'day Eldred, | I'll give you 5:1 there's a pile up :)) | I'm ready.......cumffy chair,cleaned the screen,chips & oh! nearly | forgot...... Bourbon & Coke!! | Another late night in OZ. | Cheers, David. | TopLoader. | Melbourne, Australia.

You call East Coast timezones early? C'mon over to the left coast and enjoy getting up at 4:30am to watch the race live...dave henrie <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> And what kind of nuts are we, watching Gran Prix on Speedvision for > the umpteenth time until 1 a.m. then getting up to see the real GP 6 > hours later....I don't know whether to wish I was in Australia staying > up or count my blessings that my toilet flushes in the "right" > direction and enjoy the rainy early morning in New England. And will > the Germans take our TV away now that I've gotten spoiled by having it > (almost like NASCAR has with FOX, now that there is so little coverage > of NASCAR on Speedvision I actually find I'm watching it less - of > course aided by DE's death even though I wasn't a fan of his, but > somehow the air went out a bit, oddly moreso than with Aryton died at > Monza). > > I guess Schumacher's got it, a few corners to go, oh well. > > On Sun, 27 May 2001 13:05:06 GMT, "Thom j." <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >U lost.. lol A few stupid smashes 'i.e. Montoya.. but no pile ups! :o) > >Pass those damn chips over here, will ya?? hahaha > > > >"TopLoader" wrote: > >| G'day Eldred, > >| I'll give you 5:1 there's a pile up :)) > >| I'm ready.......cumffy chair,cleaned the screen,chips & oh! nearly > >| forgot...... Bourbon & Coke!! > >| Another late night in OZ. > >| Cheers, David. > >| TopLoader. > >| Melbourne, Australia. > > > > >

no doubt. Even catching the Start of the Indy 500 is like getting up for work. Charlie B Dave Henrie <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:I49Q6.64636$[email hidden]...

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> You call East Coast timezones early? C'mon over to the left coast and > enjoy getting up at 4:30am to watch the race live...dave henrie > <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > And what kind of nuts are we, watching Gran Prix on Speedvision for > > the umpteenth time until 1 a.m. then getting up to see the real GP 6 > > hours later....I don't know whether to wish I was in Australia staying > > up or count my blessings that my toilet flushes in the "right" > > direction and enjoy the rainy early morning in New England. And will > > the Germans take our TV away now that I've gotten spoiled by having it > > (almost like NASCAR has with FOX, now that there is so little coverage > > of NASCAR on Speedvision I actually find I'm watching it less - of > > course aided by DE's death even though I wasn't a fan of his, but > > somehow the air went out a bit, oddly moreso than with Aryton died at > > Monza). > > > > I guess Schumacher's got it, a few corners to go, oh well. > > > > On Sun, 27 May 2001 13:05:06 GMT, "Thom j." <[email hidden]> > > wrote: > > > > >U lost.. lol A few stupid smashes 'i.e. Montoya.. but no pile ups! :o) > > >Pass those damn chips over here, will ya?? hahaha > > > > > >"TopLoader" wrote: > > >| G'day Eldred, > > >| I'll give you 5:1 there's a pile up :)) > > >| I'm ready.......cumffy chair,cleaned the screen,chips & oh! nearly > > >| forgot...... Bourbon & Coke!! > > >| Another late night in OZ. > > >| Cheers, David. > > >| TopLoader. > > >| Melbourne, Australia. > > > > > > > > > > >

"Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:I49Q6.64636$[email hidden]... > You call East Coast timezones early? C'mon over to the left coast and > enjoy getting up at 4:30am to watch the race live...dave henrie Get up? Why, I'd only have to go to bed an hour or so later than usual to catch the race, like any self respecting geek. I try to maintain standards though and insist on getting up by the crack of noon. KFG

What the HELL? The sidewalks weren't pink! +Cinquo

Hey All night of Gran Prix the movie, 7:30am of Monaco, 11am on Indy500, 4pm on Drags & soon Nascar?? Damn life cant get any better then this! :o) Hey Toploader U gonna hog those chips all day/night or what? Pass dem suckers over here!! Btw: I hate all yellows & anyone being hurt or killed in racing. I love racing but "sadly" the price tag sometimes is just too high! Thom_j. <[email hidden]> wrote

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| And what kind of nuts are we, watching Gran Prix on Speedvision for | the umpteenth time until 1 a.m. then getting up to see the real GP 6 | hours later....I don't know whether to wish I was in Australia staying | up or count my blessings that my toilet flushes in the "right" | direction and enjoy the rainy early morning in New England. And will | the Germans take our TV away now that I've gotten spoiled by having it | (almost like NASCAR has with FOX, now that there is so little coverage | of NASCAR on Speedvision I actually find I'm watching it less - of | course aided by DE's death even though I wasn't a fan of his, but | somehow the air went out a bit, oddly moreso than with Aryton died at | Monza). | I guess Schumacher's got it, a few corners to go, oh well.

"Ville V Sinkko" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9ern87$lce$[email hidden]... > What the HELL? The sidewalks weren't pink! > > > +Cinquo Yeah, why can't film get it as accurately as GPL? KFG

Hey Yea I always wondered why the sidewalks in GPL at Monaco are pinky? Does anyone know? Ok get your wise -A- answers out first & then give me a definative answer...ok?? Tia..Thom_j. "Ville V Sinkko" wrote: | What the HELL? The sidewalks weren't pink! | +Cinquo

Chalky cliffs reflecting sunlight bouncing off the sea produces such an effect....well it MIGHT produce such an effect......errrr....it COULD produce welllllllllll dh "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:0IeQ6.9681$[email hidden]...

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> Hey Yea I always wondered why the sidewalks in GPL at Monaco > are pinky? Does anyone know? Ok get your wise -A- answers out > first & then give me a definative answer...ok?? Tia..Thom_j. > > "Ville V Sinkko" wrote: > | What the HELL? The sidewalks weren't pink! > | +Cinquo > >

Well what a "bloody' boring race......poor old David Coultard stuck behind Bernaldi's Arrows, he's out for a Sunday drive while Dave's got to work his Arse off, Schumi just cruising past to lap him while he's stuck there, got to be the most frustrating track ever. I recon if Dave wasn't such a gentleman he would have given Bernaldi just a "little" tap......& made him park his car :)) And I stayed up till 2.45am..........Geezzz! Thom you get the chips OK.......but NO WAY.....you getting my "Wild Turkey 101" :)) Cheers, David. TopLoader. Melbourne, Australia.

I know DC is not really the fastest guy around, but isn't it a little unfair against him to claim that he had to work his arse off just to follow Bernaldi going in "Sunday drive" tempo ?? *lol* How come I keep getting disappointed at how BORING these races are... Will I never learn ? Mikkel TopLoader <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:l8gQ6.84535$[email hidden]... > Well what a "bloody' boring race......poor old David Coultard stuck behind > Bernaldi's Arrows, he's out for a Sunday drive while Dave's got to workhis > Arse off, > Schumi just cruising past to lap him while he's stuck there, got to be the > most frustrating track ever. > I recon if Dave wasn't such a gentleman he would have given Bernaldi justa

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> "little" tap......& made him park his car :)) > And I stayed up till 2.45am..........Geezzz! > > Thom you get the chips OK.......but NO WAY.....you getting my "Wild Turkey > 101" :)) > > Cheers, David. > TopLoader. > Melbourne, Australia. > >

Wow ur really stretching for this answer! aint ya??? Phew.. hahahaha "Dave Henrie" wrote: | Chalky cliffs reflecting sunlight bouncing off the sea produces such an | effect....well it MIGHT produce such an effect......errrr....it COULD | produce welllllllllll | dh

"Thom j." wrote: > > Hey Yea I always wondered why the sidewalks in GPL at Monaco > are pinky? Does anyone know? Ok get your wise -A- answers out > first & then give me a definative answer...ok?? Tia..Thom_j. > 'Coz it's the groovy 60s Monaco in GPL, that's why! -Gregor

living in a 3rd world country. it has its ups and downs. It must be said though, that it is frightfully convenient to be able to watch the Monaco GP after lunch and then catch the Indy 500 after supper and still get to bed before 11pm. (apologies to the Aussies and Yanks) Oh well. It was also very inconvenient getting my MS FF Wheel Sunday at noon. With all the autoracing on the box I didn't get much playing time in. I spent a frustrating half hour spinning the car at monza. after playing GPL with a joypad for sooo long, I had no idea how hard analog throttle and braking can be to learn. For the Aussies r.a.s'ers out there : Congrats to the Brumbies. The Stormers will be back...

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>living in a 3rd world country. > >it has its ups and downs. > >It must be said though, that it is frightfully convenient to be able >to watch the Monaco GP after lunch and then catch the Indy 500 after >supper and still get to bed before 11pm. >(apologies to the Aussies and Yanks) > >Oh well. It was also very inconvenient getting my MS FF Wheel Sunday >at noon. With all the autoracing on the box I didn't get much playing >time in. > >I spent a frustrating half hour spinning the car at monza. after >playing GPL with a joypad for sooo long, I had no idea how hard analog >throttle and braking can be to learn. > >For the Aussies r.a.s'ers out there : >Congrats to the Brumbies. >The Stormers will be back... >

Cool, they can cop another caning! Ben

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>>For the Aussies r.a.s'ers out there : >>Congrats to the Brumbies. >>The Stormers will be back... >> > >Cool, they can cop another caning! > >Ben >

i'd reply to that, but I have nothing witty to say. :)

On Mon, 28 May 2001 10:00:12 +0200, Gregor Veble <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>"Thom j." wrote: >> >> Hey Yea I always wondered why the sidewalks in GPL at Monaco >> are pinky? Does anyone know? Ok get your wise -A- answers out >> first & then give me a definative answer...ok?? Tia..Thom_j. >> > >'Coz it's the groovy 60s Monaco in GPL, that's why!

Lol :) Andre >-Gregor

On Mon, 28 May 2001 03:11:34 +0200, "Mikkel Gram-Hansen" <[email hidden]> wrote: >I know DC is not really the fastest guy around, but isn't it a little unfair >against him to claim that he had to work his arse off just to follow >Bernaldi going in "Sunday drive" tempo ?? *lol* > >How come I keep getting disappointed at how BORING these races are... Will I >never learn ? The 60's are over Mikkel, welcome to 2001 with computer-controlled cars :( If you want to see some good racing, order some historical racing videos from Duke. (allthough I must admit that we saw a couple of excellent races this year, Brazil and Sepang were great imho, and I also enjoyed Monaco yesterday, I was laughing 46 laps long with poor David stuck behind Bernoldi :))) Andre >Mikkel

There's the difference between real life and online. Who among us would have been patient enough to wait that amount of time in an online race? -- Colin ICQ 25485061 Fast Food Racing: http://www.gamensurf.co.uk/fastfood/ "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... I also enjoyed Monaco > yesterday, I was laughing 46 laps long with poor David stuck behind > Bernoldi :))) > > Andre

When the leaders came up, he had the right idea...sneek in behind them,,,he just wasn't agressive enough tucking in to follow the leader...Have somebody tape a few Nascar Races at Bristol or Martinsville to see how to pass inside on a narrow groove...errr maybe not....F1 cars still don't have fenders do they??? dave henrie "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Mon, 28 May 2001 03:11:34 +0200, "Mikkel Gram-Hansen" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >I know DC is not really the fastest guy around, but isn't it a littleunfair > >against him to claim that he had to work his arse off just to follow > >Bernaldi going in "Sunday drive" tempo ?? *lol* > > > >How come I keep getting disappointed at how BORING these races are...Will I

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> >never learn ? > > The 60's are over Mikkel, welcome to 2001 with computer-controlled > cars :( > If you want to see some good racing, order some historical racing > videos from Duke. > (allthough I must admit that we saw a couple of excellent races this > year, Brazil and Sepang were great imho, and I also enjoyed Monaco > yesterday, I was laughing 46 laps long with poor David stuck behind > Bernoldi :))) > > Andre > > >Mikkel >

I could if I had to... in online racing though, one rarely has to wait 40 laps for a mistake. ;-) Jan. =--- "Pay attention when I'm talking to you boy!" -Foghorn Leghorn. Colin Harris wrote... > There's the difference between real life and online. > Who among us would have been patient enough to wait > that amount of time in an online race?

Hahaha Yea right NOT!! I lived the 60s but dont remember this color and it never showed in the movie this way! Hmm? Maybe I dont remember that much in the mid 60s on? Especially Stock.. "O" Well.. Lah Tee Dah'... :o) "Gregor Veble" wrote: | 'Coz it's the groovy 60s Monaco in GPL, that's why! | -Gregor

Yea LOL!! Soon they will replace all the human drivers with Cyborgs!! No BS.. U watch!! "Andre Warringa" wrote: | The 60's are over Mikkel, welcome to 2001 with computer-controlled | cars :(<snuipped> | Andre

I dunno Thom... seems to me they're still overestimating human competence too much to really go down that path. Check it... Ron Dennis admits Mika probably didn't respect "the sequence" for turning on launch control when he stalled on the grid. If they pretend to be that good at automatisation, how come they don't make an action as important as that, which will be performed under quite some stress/pressure, a little easier? I.e. more like a "gun it and press the big red button when the lights go out" deal? Think about it. Jan. ;-) =--- "Pay attention when I'm talking to you boy!" -Foghorn Leghorn. Thom j. wrote... > Yea LOL!! Soon they will replace all the human > drivers with Cyborgs!! No BS.. U watch!!

"Thom j." wrote: > > Hahaha Yea right NOT!! I lived the 60s but dont remember this > color and it never showed in the movie this way! Hmm? Maybe > I dont remember that much in the mid 60s on? Especially Stock.. > "O" Well.. Lah Tee Dah'... :o) Like the old saying goes... If you remember the '60's, you weren't there! LOL -- Fester

On Mon, 28 May 2001 16:02:09 GMT, "Colin Harris" <[email hidden]> wrote: >There's the difference between real life and online. Who among us would have >been patient enough to wait that amount of time in an online race? Yep, the difference between real life injuries and a shift-r.. Allthough I do know what it's like being stuck behind a slower driver for a long time.. Eh Olav? :) Andre

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>-- > > >Colin >ICQ 25485061 >Fast Food Racing: http://www.gamensurf.co.uk/fastfood/ > > >"Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >I also enjoyed Monaco >> yesterday, I was laughing 46 laps long with poor David stuck behind >> Bernoldi :))) >> >> Andre > > > >

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> On Mon, 28 May 2001 16:02:09 GMT, "Colin Harris" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >There's the difference between real life and online. Who among us would have > >been patient enough to wait that amount of time in an online race? > > Yep, the difference between real life injuries and a shift-r.. > Allthough I do know what it's like being stuck behind a slower driver > for a long time.. Eh Olav? :)

Guess who were laughing when you contantly overcooked it at the exactly same place lap after lap at Solitude not so long ago. I had problems consentrating, and the guys who were out of the race had a ball. You will have to pay for that comment at Mexico. :) -- Olav K. Malmin remove .spam when replying

On 29 May 2001 11:21:29 +0200, [email hidden] (Olav K. Malmin) wrote:

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>[email hidden] (Andre Warringa) writes: > >> On Mon, 28 May 2001 16:02:09 GMT, "Colin Harris" >> <[email hidden]> wrote: >> >> >There's the difference between real life and online. Who among us would have >> >been patient enough to wait that amount of time in an online race? >> >> Yep, the difference between real life injuries and a shift-r.. >> Allthough I do know what it's like being stuck behind a slower driver >> for a long time.. Eh Olav? :) > >Guess who were laughing when you contantly overcooked it at the >exactly same place lap after lap at Solitude not so long ago. I had >problems consentrating, and the guys who were out of the race had a >ball.

And because of that race I know exactly how David felt being stuck behind Bernoldi - TOTALLY FRUSTRATED :) >You will have to pay for that comment at Mexico. :) Eh? What comment? Andre >-- >Olav K. Malmin >remove .spam when replying

Its easy really and I don't understand how they stuff it up so many times. You tap the accelerator 4 times Press the blue button once Tap the brake 2 times Wiggle the steering wheel to and froe 3 times Press the orange button twice Turn the green dial with the white numbers to the 6 position Turn the white dial withe the green numbers to the 9 position Press the white button Flick the yellow switch Press the red button And you're away. What's the *&^%$ problem ? A Swiss systems engineer explained it to the Finnish driver in English - so what could go wrong ? My grandmother could do this ! Phillip "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> I dunno Thom... seems to me they're still overestimating human competence > too much to really go down that path. > > Check it... Ron Dennis admits Mika probably didn't respect "the sequence" > for turning on launch control when he stalled on the grid. If they pretend > to be that good at automatisation, how come they don't make an action as > important as that, which will be performed under quite some

stress/pressure, > a little easier? I.e. more like a "gun it and press the big red buttonwhen

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> the lights go out" deal? > > Think about it. > > Jan. ;-) > =--- > "Pay attention when I'm talking to you boy!" -Foghorn Leghorn. > > Thom j. wrote... > > Yea LOL!! Soon they will replace all the human > > drivers with Cyborgs!! No BS.. U watch!! > >

In article <5EuQ6.27687$[email hidden]>, Colin Harris <[email hidden]> writes >There's the difference between real life and online. Who among us would >have >been patient enough to wait that amount of time in an online race? > Not sure about that. I've seen many a real life F1 race where a fast guy, starting from the back, hasn't lasted more than half a dozen laps before trying some kamikaze overtaking manouevre. I think DC learnt from his last rear-of-the-field start this year when he lost his nose- cone pretty early on, which cost him quite significantly. He wasn't going to make the same mistake twice. >"Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >I also enjoyed Monaco >> yesterday, I was laughing 46 laps long with poor David stuck behind >> Bernoldi :))) >> -- Peter Ives Remove ALL_STRESS before replying If you know what's good for you, don't listen to me GPLRank Joystick -50.63 Wheel -5.88

In article <3b13b4ed$0$25486$[email hidden]>, Phillip McNelley <[email hidden]> writes

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>Its easy really and I don't understand how they stuff it up so many times. > >You tap the accelerator 4 times >Press the blue button once >Tap the brake 2 times >Wiggle the steering wheel to and froe 3 times >Press the orange button twice >Turn the green dial with the white numbers to the 6 position >Turn the white dial withe the green numbers to the 9 position >Press the white button >Flick the yellow switch >Press the red button > >And you're away. What's the *&^%$ problem ? A Swiss systems engineer >explained it to the Finnish driver in English - so what could go wrong ? My >grandmother could do this ! >

Hey, she sounds cool. Maybe we could meet? -- Peter Ives Remove ALL_STRESS before replying If you know what's good for you, don't listen to me GPLRank Joystick -50.63 Wheel -5.88

Ur sooo bad Andre!!! hahaha "Andre Warringa" wrote: | Allthough I do know what it's like being stuck behind a slower driver | for a long time.. Eh Olav? :) | Andre<snipp'ed'ed'ed again>

Launch Control snafu I thought... try dailyF1.com they might have it... dave henrie "Richard S Beckett" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9f2m6v$[email hidden]... > I know I'm behind the times again, but what was the official line on why > DC's engine stopped on the grid? > > Thanks. > > R.

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> Launch Control snafu I thought... > try dailyF1.com they might have it... > dave henrie > "Richard S Beckett" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:9f2m6v$[email hidden]... > > I know I'm behind the times again, but what was the official line on why > > DC's engine stopped on the grid? > > > > Thanks. > > > > R.

For which Ron Dennis now takes team responsiblility despite having previously called DC a "stupid idiot" for his previous stall. KFG

Can somebody please explain in simple terms to a non-F1 fan (unless it's 1967 cars) what launch control is and how it works? I would be an F1 fan if they'd just race at a reasonable time - it's usually just too damn early in the morning in the Pacific Time Zone. Everything should be scheduled for my convenience <g> "Kevin Gavitt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:QG9R6.101351$[email hidden]...

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> > "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Do6R6.81839$[email hidden]... > > Launch Control snafu I thought... > > try dailyF1.com they might have it... > > dave henrie > > "Richard S Beckett" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:9f2m6v$[email hidden]... > > > I know I'm behind the times again, but what was the official line on

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> > > DC's engine stopped on the grid? > > > > > > Thanks. > > > > > > R. > > For which Ron Dennis now takes team responsiblility despite having > previously called DC a "stupid idiot" for his previous stall. > > KFG > >

"Rob Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:JpaR6.10716$[email hidden]... > Can somebody please explain in simple terms to a non-F1 fan (unless it's > 1967 cars) what launch control is and how it works? > I simple terms the driver is not in control of the throttle at "launch," such being delegated to an onboard computer. The idea being that the computer can get the maximum acceleration with minimum wheel spin better than a human driver can. Certain parameters cannot be supplied to the computer by sensors, such as the exact grip the tires are GOING to have once they start turning, and a guess must be made by a human being and programed into the computer. Sometimes the guess is wrong resulting in the car stalling at the start. Sometimes, as appears to be the case with DC, the computer just plain dosn't work. KFG

Kevin Gavitt <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:nteR6.101748$[email hidden]... > Sometimes, as appears to be the case with DC, the computer justplain dosn't > work. They didn't get Micro$oft to code it, did they? ;-) Jonny

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> > Kevin Gavitt <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:nteR6.101748$[email hidden]... > > > Sometimes, as appears to be the case with DC, the computer just > plain dosn't > > work. > > They didn't get Micro$oft to code it, did they? ;-) > > Jonny > >

Well it definately ain't open source, I can tell you that much. KFG

No, they used shareware and the granted testing period expired at 13.55 hours. JensSchumi On Thu, 31 May 2001 00:00:52 +0100, "Jonny Hodgson" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> >Kevin Gavitt <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:nteR6.101748$[email hidden]... > >> Sometimes, as appears to be the case with DC, the computer just >plain dosn't >> work. > >They didn't get Micro$oft to code it, did they? ;-) > >Jonny >

-- LWFF Ball Bearing conversion at: http://members.nbci.com/JensSchu/ GPLRank: -10.1 Monsters of GPL: sub 200

"JS" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > No, > they used shareware and the granted testing period expired at 13.55 hours. > > JensSchumi > Maybe they were using the beta of XP and forgot to " phone home." KFG