OT: Want to know who Tony Stewart was talking about?

After the race, a somewhat irate Tony commented on a media person who said that his 1100 mile attempt was 'dangerous'... http://www.knoxnews.com/sports/30217.shtml IMHO...that article was written by a complete idiot. I've driven 1100 miles in a day (Albuquerque, NM to St. Louis, Mo) and with less time to sit down and 'relax' as Tony gets in his helicopter rides and plane flight. And I certainly wasn't a danger to others on the roadways or so tired I couldn't see straight. This guy probably gets overcome with exhaustion driving to the grocery store... Cheers! -- �� Jan Kohl �� SECURITY CONSULTANT The Pits - http://www.theuspits.com Castle Graphics - http://www.castlegraphics.com

I should also add this bozo as well... http://dailypress.com/sports/stories/davteel.htm "Jan Kohl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ubjQ6.54455$[email hidden]...

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> After the race, a somewhat irate Tony commented on a media person who said > that his 1100 mile attempt was 'dangerous'... > > http://www.knoxnews.com/sports/30217.shtml > > IMHO...that article was written by a complete idiot. I've driven 1100 miles in a day > (Albuquerque, NM to St. Louis, Mo) and with less time to sit down and 'relax' as Tony > gets in his helicopter rides and plane flight. And I certainly wasn't a danger to others > on the roadways or so tired I couldn't see straight. This guy probably gets overcome > with exhaustion driving to the grocery store... > > Cheers! > > -- > �� Jan Kohl �� > SECURITY CONSULTANT > The Pits - http://www.theuspits.com > Castle Graphics - http://www.castlegraphics.com > >

Do not compare apples to oranges There is a HUGE difference between driving 1100 miles in a passanger car compared to race cars going 200mph. Today during the Indy 500 they were talking about how one of the drives (I forget which one) had a monitor strapped to him during the race so they could monitor his heart beats and his breathing. They said that during green flag driving, his heart was up to about 130 beats per minute and his breathing was at 35. They then commented how this was the same level that a marathon runner reaches. Not to mention that at 200mph, everytime you move it feels like your body is 3x its normal weight and it is hard just to move your head. "Jan Kohl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ubjQ6.54455$[email hidden]... > After the race, a somewhat irate Tony commented on a media person who said > that his 1100 mile attempt was 'dangerous'... > > http://www.knoxnews.com/sports/30217.shtml > > IMHO...that article was written by a complete idiot. I've driven 1100miles in a day > (Albuquerque, NM to St. Louis, Mo) and with less time to sit down and'relax' as Tony > gets in his helicopter rides and plane flight. And I certainly wasn't adanger to others > on the roadways or so tired I couldn't see straight. This guy probablygets overcome

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> with exhaustion driving to the grocery store... > > Cheers! > > -- > �� Jan Kohl �� > SECURITY CONSULTANT > The Pits - http://www.theuspits.com > Castle Graphics - http://www.castlegraphics.com > >

BS. That is in no way related to speed. When you fly across the Atlantic on Concorde at Mach 2 you won't feel any different to on the subway at 30mph. No question the drivers in the Indy500 are subject to a serious amount of lateral accellerationin the turns, but they're not subjected to 3G all the way 'round and do have extensive head support. Jan. =--- "Pay attention when I'm talking to you boy!" -Foghorn Leghorn. Cliff Roman wrote... > <snip> > Not to mention that at 200mph, everytime you move it feels > like your body is 3x its normal weight and it is hard just > to move your head.

I can see where the authors of these articles are coming from. Aside from the G's making you physically tired, you need to stay mentally sharp. All of those hours (not miles) in the cockpit could really dull that mental edge, and a personal trainer isn't helping that. This is in hindsight of the races, and thankfully nothing happened, but I still think it was a bad idea. Tim On Mon, 28 May 2001 03:09:24 GMT, "Jan Kohl" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>I should also add this bozo as well... > >http://dailypress.com/sports/stories/davteel.htm > > >"Jan Kohl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ubjQ6.54455$[email hidden]... >> After the race, a somewhat irate Tony commented on a media person who said >> that his 1100 mile attempt was 'dangerous'... >> >> http://www.knoxnews.com/sports/30217.shtml >> >> IMHO...that article was written by a complete idiot. I've driven 1100 miles in a day >> (Albuquerque, NM to St. Louis, Mo) and with less time to sit down and 'relax' as Tony >> gets in his helicopter rides and plane flight. And I certainly wasn't a danger to others >> on the roadways or so tired I couldn't see straight. This guy probably gets overcome >> with exhaustion driving to the grocery store... >> >> Cheers! >> >> -- >> �� Jan Kohl �� >> SECURITY CONSULTANT >> The Pits - http://www.theuspits.com >> Castle Graphics - http://www.castlegraphics.com

> Do not compare apples to oranges > > There is a HUGE difference between driving 1100 miles in a passanger car > compared to race cars going 200mph. Baloney. The physical aspects may be different (and not to the extent that you were talking about, you don't constantly have G-forces, only in the corners), but the mental aspects are the same. At least they *should* be...if you are not paying attention 100% of the time when you are driving, then I certainly want to give you a wide berth. Tony Stewart also got some time to sit down and 'relax' a bit, the 1 1/2 hours on the two helicopter flights and the plane flight. I didn't get that luxury, nor did I stop except for gas...and a quick stop for someone ELSE who fell asleep at the wheel and ran off the road. Tony also spent less time doing the distance (thankfully, for all the state troopers in TX, OK and MO would've had a field day), he did 6 1/2 hours driving, it took me 16 hours. Cheers! �� Jan Kohl �� SECURITY CONSULTANT The Pits - http://www.theuspits.com Castle Graphics - http://www.castlegraphics.com

IMHO...you're wrong. Look at the evidence. Tony spun on lap 2 because he was tired and not used to the stock car. THANK GOD he was dead last or he woulda taken the field with him. The guy is a menace. -Phasor "Jan Kohl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ubjQ6.54455$[email hidden]... > After the race, a somewhat irate Tony commented on a media person who said > that his 1100 mile attempt was 'dangerous'... > > http://www.knoxnews.com/sports/30217.shtml > > IMHO...that article was written by a complete idiot. I've driven 1100miles in a day > (Albuquerque, NM to St. Louis, Mo) and with less time to sit down and'relax' as Tony > gets in his helicopter rides and plane flight. And I certainly wasn't adanger to others > on the roadways or so tired I couldn't see straight. This guy probablygets overcome

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> with exhaustion driving to the grocery store... > > Cheers! > > -- > �� Jan Kohl �� > SECURITY CONSULTANT > The Pits - http://www.theuspits.com > Castle Graphics - http://www.castlegraphics.com > >

"Cliff Roman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:uKjQ6.37473$[email hidden]...

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> Do not compare apples to oranges > > There is a HUGE difference between driving 1100 miles in a passanger car > compared to race cars going 200mph. > > Today during the Indy 500 they were talking about how one of the drives (I > forget which one) had a monitor strapped to him during the race so they > could monitor his heart beats and his breathing. > > They said that during green flag driving, his heart was up to about 130 > beats per minute and his breathing was at 35. They then commented how

this > was the same level that a marathon runner reaches. Not to mention that at > 200mph, everytime you move it feels like your body is 3x its normal weight > and it is hard just to move your head. Which just goes to show that the reporter knew nothing, and I mean NOTHING about exercise physiology. 130 bpm is the level of moderate exercise that even your granny could sustain indefinately. And when I say indefinately I mean indefinately. She would only have to stop when due to lack of sleep, not from the stress of the exercise. Ultramarathoners routinely maintain heart rates above this level for 2 and 3 days at a time, without sleep. I would also point to Le Mans where drivers have taken 4 hour stints, a 4 hour break, and another 4 hour stint around the clock for decades. Pierre Levegh did it solo once. It took until the 23rd hour before he suffered any ill effects on his driving. KFG

LOL, you seriously think that driving a race car is the same as driving a passanger car mentally? LOL No offense, but that is a classic.. "Jan Kohl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:PAtQ6.85398$[email hidden]... > > Do not compare apples to oranges > > > > There is a HUGE difference between driving 1100 miles in a passanger car > > compared to race cars going 200mph. > > Baloney. The physical aspects may be different (and not to the extentthat you > were talking about, you don't constantly have G-forces, only in thecorners), but > the mental aspects are the same. At least they *should* be...if you arenot paying > attention 100% of the time when you are driving, then I certainly want togive you > a wide berth. > > Tony Stewart also got some time to sit down and 'relax' a bit, the 1 1/2hours > on the two helicopter flights and the plane flight. I didn't get thatluxury, nor did > I stop except for gas...and a quick stop for someone ELSE who fell asleepat > the wheel and ran off the road. > > Tony also spent less time doing the distance (thankfully, for all thestate troopers > in TX, OK and MO would've had a field day), he did 6 1/2 hours driving, ittook

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> me 16 hours. > > Cheers! > > �� Jan Kohl �� > SECURITY CONSULTANT > The Pits - http://www.theuspits.com > Castle Graphics - http://www.castlegraphics.com > > >

On Mon, 28 May 2001 14:50:23 GMT, Jan Kohl wrote about Re: Want to know who Tony Stewart was talking about?:

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> > Do not compare apples to oranges > > > > There is a HUGE difference between driving 1100 miles in a passanger car > > compared to race cars going 200mph. > > Baloney. The physical aspects may be different (and not to the extent that you > were talking about, you don't constantly have G-forces, only in the corners), but > the mental aspects are the same. At least they *should* be...if you are not paying > attention 100% of the time when you are driving, then I certainly want to give you > a wide berth.

If you think toodling down the interstate at 60mph takes 100% of your mental abilities, you must have an IQ of much less than 30. I can see you have zero hours seat time in a single seater. Go take a learn to race course somewhere and then talk about something you have some knowledge about. If you did have some seat time (I do) you would know that braking and being tossed from side to side at over 2G, no cumfy seat, 1 inch off the ground with no suspension (relatively) just aint the same as the harshest of road cars. I often travel up to 1000 miles a day on public roads for multiple days and it doesn't compare at all to five 20 minute race sessions a day in a single seater.

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> Tony Stewart also got some time to sit down and 'relax' a bit, the 1 1/2 hours > on the two helicopter flights and the plane flight. I didn't get that luxury, nor did > I stop except for gas...and a quick stop for someone ELSE who fell asleep at > the wheel and ran off the road. > > Tony also spent less time doing the distance (thankfully, for all the state troopers > in TX, OK and MO would've had a field day), he did 6 1/2 hours driving, it took > me 16 hours. > > Cheers! > > �� Jan Kohl �� > SECURITY CONSULTANT > The Pits - http://www.theuspits.com > Castle Graphics - http://www.castlegraphics.com

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holy frijole, the leader of the indy race and fastest qualifier lost it and hit the wall and the whole field was behind him and he had raced mile 0. should he be pulled from the track? how many races have you seen where someone spins on the first lap and takes others with him? none? well you haven't watched a freakin lot of a racing. tony held on and finished 3rd. jesus y maria! he really needs to be taken out back and shot for endangering others. u other idjits picking on jan. read what he said.... tony in car 6 hours, jan in car 16. he's talking concentration here. lets not mention endurance drivers, oh no! let's not mention them. tony was right, all those whining about how safe it was for him to do this are indeed "idiots." [email hidden] (Phasor) wrote in <3b127b3a$[email hidden]>:

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>IMHO...you're wrong. Look at the evidence. > >Tony spun on lap 2 because he was tired and not used to the stock car. >THANK GOD he was dead last or he woulda taken the field with him. > >The guy is a menace. > > -Phasor

I saw quite a few loop all by themselves last night. At least Tony did it early. Also, the WC drivers had very little seat time due to rain. Mike Grandy Proud Member of Precision Racing Internet Race Team 3 A Champion Forever-Godspeed Dale "Phasor" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3b127b3a$[email hidden]... IMHO...you're wrong. Look at the evidence. Tony spun on lap 2 because he was tired and not used to the stock car. THANK GOD he was dead last or he woulda taken the field with him. The guy is a menace. -Phasor "Jan Kohl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ubjQ6.54455$[email hidden]... > After the race, a somewhat irate Tony commented on a media person who said > that his 1100 mile attempt was 'dangerous'... > > http://www.knoxnews.com/sports/30217.shtml > > IMHO...that article was written by a complete idiot. I've driven 1100miles in a day > (Albuquerque, NM to St. Louis, Mo) and with less time to sit down and'relax' as Tony > gets in his helicopter rides and plane flight. And I certainly wasn't adanger to others > on the roadways or so tired I couldn't see straight. This guy probablygets overcome

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> with exhaustion driving to the grocery store... > > Cheers! > > -- > �� Jan Kohl �� > SECURITY CONSULTANT > The Pits - http://www.theuspits.com > Castle Graphics - http://www.castlegraphics.com > >

"rb" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:k2wQ6.13563$[email hidden]... > holy frijole, > > the leader of the indy race and fastest qualifier lost it and hit the wall > and the whole field was behind him and he had raced mile 0. should he be > pulled from the track? how many races have you seen where someone spins on > the first lap and takes others with him? none? well you haven't watcheda > freakin lot of a racing. > > tony held on and finished 3rd. jesus y maria! he really needs to betaken > out back and shot for endangering others. > > u other idjits picking on jan. read what he said.... tony in car 6 hours, > jan in car 16. he's talking concentration here. lets not mention > endurance drivers, oh no! let's not mention them. Oh bloody hell. Too late, I mentioned them already. : ) > > tony was right, all those whining about how safe it was for him to do this > are indeed "idiots." > >

Oh ***y hell. Too late, I mentioned them already. : )

Try and save a loose car, betcha your heart rate WILL go up!

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> I can see you have zero hours seat time in a single seater. > Go take a learn to race course somewhere and then talk about > something you have some knowledge about. > > If you did have some seat time (I do) you would know that braking > and being tossed from side to side at over 2G, no cumfy seat, > 1 inch off the ground with no suspension (relatively) just aint > the same as the harshest of road cars. > > I often travel up to 1000 miles a day on public roads for multiple days and > it doesn't compare at all to five 20 minute race sessions a day in a single seater.

Dave, you obviously missed my point completely, as well as have no idea about me. First off, I didn't mention the physical aspects...just the mental, which is what the whole point of the articles were. Second...I've got plenty of seat time. Circle track in the UK, drag racing, off-road racing, and some laps at Lowes. NOW... Again, if you do NOT concentrate 100% while driving on public roads, I don't want to be around you. I do. And I guarantee 16 straight hours of concentration is close enough to simulate Tony's 6 hours of concentration. I hope that is clear enough? Cheers! -- �� Jan Kohl �� SECURITY CONSULTANT The Pits - http://www.theuspits.com Castle Graphics - http://www.castlegraphics.com

"Cliff Roman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:F8vQ6.37520$[email hidden]... > LOL, you seriously think that driving a race car is the same as driving a > passanger car mentally? LOL > > No offense, but that is a classic.. Well, if you don't think you need to concentrate completely on what you're doing while driving, then I recommend taking a bus. There are too many people like that causing accidents everyday... hence the reason I *DO* concentrate 100% while driving on the roads. Cheers! -- �� Jan Kohl �� SECURITY CONSULTANT The Pits - http://www.theuspits.com Castle Graphics - http://www.castlegraphics.com

First off, if you *are* driving properly, you SHOULD be using 100% of your mental capacity for driving. The problem is that too many stupid people don't pay attention and cause stupid accidents. I'm talking USA though because we have alot of international members here... If you take your mentality to the Geman autobahn, you had better stay in the right lane or you might not survive! As for driving a racecar, it's actually easier IMHO. You have a consistent track, and you have drivers you know pretty well. Yeah, you run at faster speeds but it's really not that big of a deal... On Mon, 28 May 2001 17:05:20 GMT, [email hidden] (Dave Null Sr.) wrote:

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>On Mon, 28 May 2001 14:50:23 GMT, Jan Kohl wrote about Re: Want to know who Tony Stewart was talking about?: > >> > Do not compare apples to oranges >> > >> > There is a HUGE difference between driving 1100 miles in a passanger car >> > compared to race cars going 200mph. >> >> Baloney. The physical aspects may be different (and not to the extent that you >> were talking about, you don't constantly have G-forces, only in the corners), but >> the mental aspects are the same. At least they *should* be...if you are not paying >> attention 100% of the time when you are driving, then I certainly want to give you >> a wide berth. > >If you think toodling down the interstate at 60mph takes 100% >of your mental abilities, you must have an IQ of much less than 30. > >I can see you have zero hours seat time in a single seater. >Go take a learn to race course somewhere and then talk about >something you have some knowledge about. > >If you did have some seat time (I do) you would know that braking >and being tossed from side to side at over 2G, no cumfy seat, >1 inch off the ground with no suspension (relatively) just aint >the same as the harshest of road cars. > >I often travel up to 1000 miles a day on public roads for multiple days and >it doesn't compare at all to five 20 minute race sessions a day in a single seater. > >> Tony Stewart also got some time to sit down and 'relax' a bit, the 1 1/2 hours >> on the two helicopter flights and the plane flight. I didn't get that luxury, nor did >> I stop except for gas...and a quick stop for someone ELSE who fell asleep at >> the wheel and ran off the road. >> >> Tony also spent less time doing the distance (thankfully, for all the state troopers >> in TX, OK and MO would've had a field day), he did 6 1/2 hours driving, it took >> me 16 hours. >> >> Cheers! >> >> �� Jan Kohl �� >> SECURITY CONSULTANT >> The Pits - http://www.theuspits.com >> Castle Graphics - http://www.castlegraphics.com > > > ></Dave/Null

Scott Sharp lost it on the first lap in the Indy 500. What's his excuse - too tired? I think not. On Mon, 28 May 2001 09:22:58 -0700, "Phasor" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>IMHO...you're wrong. Look at the evidence. > >Tony spun on lap 2 because he was tired and not used to the stock car. >THANK GOD he was dead last or he woulda taken the field with him. > >The guy is a menace. > > -Phasor > >"Jan Kohl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:ubjQ6.54455$[email hidden]... >> After the race, a somewhat irate Tony commented on a media person who said >> that his 1100 mile attempt was 'dangerous'... >> >> http://www.knoxnews.com/sports/30217.shtml >> >> IMHO...that article was written by a complete idiot. I've driven 1100 >miles in a day >> (Albuquerque, NM to St. Louis, Mo) and with less time to sit down and >'relax' as Tony >> gets in his helicopter rides and plane flight. And I certainly wasn't a >danger to others >> on the roadways or so tired I couldn't see straight. This guy probably >gets overcome >> with exhaustion driving to the grocery store... >> >> Cheers! >> >> -- >> �� Jan Kohl �� >> SECURITY CONSULTANT >> The Pits - http://www.theuspits.com >> Castle Graphics - http://www.castlegraphics.com >> >> >

In article <[email hidden]>, George Lewis <[email hidden]> writes: >First off, if you *are* driving properly, you SHOULD be using 100% of >your mental capacity for driving. The problem is that too many stupid >people don't pay attention and cause stupid accidents. I'm talking >USA though because we have alot of international members here... I really don't think 100% is necessary - otherwise, you couldn't talk to your passengers, or even listen to the radio. However, I wish people would use more than the 50-60% I seem to see around here... :( Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +24.63...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

I agree 100% with this statement, "tony was right, all those whining about how safe it was for him to do this > are indeed "idiots."" W "rb" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:k2wQ6.13563$[email hidden]... > holy frijole, > > the leader of the indy race and fastest qualifier lost it and hit the wall > and the whole field was behind him and he had raced mile 0. should he be > pulled from the track? how many races have you seen where someone spins on > the first lap and takes others with him? none? well you haven't watcheda > freakin lot of a racing. > > tony held on and finished 3rd. jesus y maria! he really needs to betaken

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> out back and shot for endangering others. > > u other idjits picking on jan. read what he said.... tony in car 6 hours, > jan in car 16. he's talking concentration here. lets not mention > endurance drivers, oh no! let's not mention them. > > tony was right, all those whining about how safe it was for him to do this > are indeed "idiots." > > > [email hidden] (Phasor) wrote in <3b127b3a$[email hidden]>: > > >IMHO...you're wrong. Look at the evidence. > > > >Tony spun on lap 2 because he was tired and not used to the stock car. > >THANK GOD he was dead last or he woulda taken the field with him. > > > >The guy is a menace. > > > > -Phasor