Wheel clamps

I am looking for a good wheel setup, but I have a unique requirement. The desk I use has a lap drawer that is 5 inches deep. The drawer itself is not sturdy enough to clamp to, and I don't want to have to remove it every time I want to use my wheel. The top of the desk has an overhang that is about 3/4 inches wide. In other words, if I could find a wheel that only needs to clamp to the outer 3/4 inches of the desk, and doesn't extend any deeper, it would work. Does anyone know of such a wheel? Thanks, Hal

"Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:65gS6.7987$[email hidden]... : In other words, if I could find : a wheel that only needs to clamp to the outer 3/4 inches of the desk, : and doesn't extend any deeper, it would work. Does anyone know of such : a wheel? : LWFF (new style) isn't much more than 3/4" maybe 7/8". I really doubt you'll find a secure wheel that has less clamp area than the LWFF (which, IMO, isn't that secure). Dale.

Hmm. Not real impressed with the button layout on the LWFF. Another possibility is that if the clamps are less than 4.5" in height, I might be able to fit the wheel on with the drawer just pulled out a few inches, so that the clamps fit inside the drawer. Any wheel with clamps that are less than 4.5" high prior to tightening and less than 23" apart would probably fit inside the drawer. I already know that the Sidewinder and the Thrustmaster Ferrari won't fit in those dimensions (it was REAL difficult returning that Ferrari wheel btw, what a jewel!), but perhaps there are others. Any more suggestions? Thanks again, Hal "Sideshow Bob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:65gS6.7987$[email hidden]... > : In other words, if I could find > : a wheel that only needs to clamp to the outer 3/4 inches of thedesk, > : and doesn't extend any deeper, it would work. Does anyone know ofsuch > : a wheel? > : > > LWFF (new style) isn't much more than 3/4" maybe 7/8". I really doubt > you'll find a secure wheel that has less clamp area than the LWFF(which, > IMO, isn't that secure). > > Dale. > > >

You may have a floor.... :) http://www.bonghead.org/racing/hyper/hyper2.htm SZ

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> I am looking for a good wheel setup, but I have a unique requirement. > The desk I use has a lap drawer that is 5 inches deep. The drawer > itself is not sturdy enough to clamp to, and I don't want to have to > remove it every time I want to use my wheel. The top of the desk has an > overhang that is about 3/4 inches wide. In other words, if I could find > a wheel that only needs to clamp to the outer 3/4 inches of the desk, > and doesn't extend any deeper, it would work. Does anyone know of such > a wheel? > > Thanks, > Hal > >

I feel your pain. The only solution I've found for the moment is to keep my lap drawer on top of my dresser. : ) That is, until I finish building my dedicated sim station. KFG

Why don't you just open your drawer enough to get claps under the desk and then close the drawer as far as you can? In case you haven't tried that. -- Sean Higgins Redline Racing League www.rrlnrs.com Redline BGN Division http://home.sprintmail.com/~higgy/RRL/ "Kevin Gavitt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Y_tS6.128300$[email hidden]... > > "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:65gS6.7987$[email hidden]... > > I am looking for a good wheel setup, but I have a unique requirement. > > The desk I use has a lap drawer that is 5 inches deep. The drawer > > itself is not sturdy enough to clamp to, and I don't want to have to > > remove it every time I want to use my wheel. The top of the desk has an > > overhang that is about 3/4 inches wide. In other words, if I could find > > a wheel that only needs to clamp to the outer 3/4 inches of the desk, > > and doesn't extend any deeper, it would work. Does anyone know of such > > a wheel? > > > > Thanks, > > Hal > > > > > > I feel your pain. The only solution I've found for the moment is to keep my > lap drawer on top of my dresser. : ) > > That is, until I finish building my dedicated sim station. > > KFG > >

F*cking wow! Those are pretty cool looking. Most likely a tad beyond my budget though. :o) "Stefan Zscharnack" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:WvnS6.4628$[email hidden]... > You may have a floor.... :) > http://www.bonghead.org/racing/hyper/hyper2.htm > SZ > >

That's a good suggestion, but as I mentioned above in another reply, the drawer is only about 4.5" deep, which still prevents some clamp systems from working. So if I can find a wheel that has clamps that require less than 4.5" height to install and close that would probably work also. Unfortunately the MS Sidewinder and the Thrustmaster Ferrari already flunked that test also. Right now I'm thinking that the TM Nascar Pro Digital 2 might work, but I need to find one on display in a store so I can measure it. Thanks, Hal "Sean Higgins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Why don't you just open your drawer enough to get claps under the deskand > then close the drawer as far as you can? In case you haven't triedthat.

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> > -- > > Sean Higgins > > Redline Racing League > www.rrlnrs.com > > Redline BGN Division > http://home.sprintmail.com/~higgy/RRL/ > "Kevin Gavitt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Y_tS6.128300$[email hidden]... > > > > "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:65gS6.7987$[email hidden]... > > > I am looking for a good wheel setup, but I have a unique

requirement. > > > The desk I use has a lap drawer that is 5 inches deep. The drawer > > > itself is not sturdy enough to clamp to, and I don't want to haveto > > > remove it every time I want to use my wheel. The top of the deskhas an > > > overhang that is about 3/4 inches wide. In other words, if Icould find > > > a wheel that only needs to clamp to the outer 3/4 inches of thedesk, > > > and doesn't extend any deeper, it would work. Does anyone know ofsuch

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> > > a wheel? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Hal > > > > > > > > > > I feel your pain. The only solution I've found for the moment is to

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> my > > lap drawer on top of my dresser. : ) > > > > That is, until I finish building my dedicated sim station. > > > > KFG > > > > > >

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> Why don't you just open your drawer enough to get claps under the desk and > then close the drawer as far as you can? In case you haven't tried that. > > -- > > Sean Higgins >

Because a: The drawer isn't deep enough, and b: it's got stuff in it. KFG

I got an idea! Take a piece of 3/4" plywood and set it under your monitor and protruding from the desk and clap it to that. Just throwing out ideas, because I don't know of any wheels that only clamp on by that little amount you were asking about. -- Sean Higgins Redline Racing League www.rrlnrs.com Redline BGN Division http://home.sprintmail.com/~higgy/RRL/ "Kevin Gavitt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:JNvS6.36564$[email hidden]... > > "Sean Higgins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > Why don't you just open your drawer enough to get claps under the desk and > > then close the drawer as far as you can? In case you haven't tried that. > > > > -- > > > > Sean Higgins > > > > Because a: The drawer isn't deep enough, and b: it's got stuff in it. > > KFG > >

"Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:IvvS6.11305$[email hidden]... : That's a good suggestion, but as I mentioned above in another reply, the : drawer is only about 4.5" deep, which still prevents some clamp systems : from working. If I understand this right then the LWFF should work. The "J" part of the clamp is maybe 1-1.5" high and about 1 to 1.25" long. If it helps I can email you a small digital picture of the clamp. Dale.

"Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:IvvS6.11305$[email hidden]...

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> That's a good suggestion, but as I mentioned above in another reply, the > drawer is only about 4.5" deep, which still prevents some clamp systems > from working. So if I can find a wheel that has clamps that require > less than 4.5" height to install and close that would probably work > also. Unfortunately the MS Sidewinder and the Thrustmaster Ferrari > already flunked that test also. Right now I'm thinking that the TM > Nascar Pro Digital 2 might work, but I need to find one on display in a > store so I can measure it. > > Thanks, > Hal >

Many people find the ECCI heavy enough that they find they don't need clamps. Or at least it sounds like a good excuse for trying to aquire one. KFG

That's a good idea too, but I also use this desk and computer for other things besides gaming. If I have to go to that length, it would probably be easier to just pull the drawer out. Thanks for the ideas, though. Hal "Sean Higgins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I got an idea! Take a piece of 3/4" plywood and set it under yourmonitor > and protruding from the desk and clap it to that. Just throwing outideas, > because I don't know of any wheels that only clamp on by that littleamount

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> you were asking about. > > -- > > Sean Higgins > > Redline Racing League > www.rrlnrs.com > > Redline BGN Division > http://home.sprintmail.com/~higgy/RRL/ > "Kevin Gavitt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:JNvS6.36564$[email hidden]... > > > > "Sean Higgins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > Why don't you just open your drawer enough to get claps under the

desk > and > > > then close the drawer as far as you can? In case you haven'ttried

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> that. > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Sean Higgins > > > > > > > Because a: The drawer isn't deep enough, and b: it's got stuff in

it. > > > > KFG > > > > > >

I'm not familiar with the ECCI. Where would I find one? URL? "Kevin Gavitt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:qnyS6.36829$[email hidden]... > > "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:IvvS6.11305$[email hidden]... > > That's a good suggestion, but as I mentioned above in another reply,the > > drawer is only about 4.5" deep, which still prevents some clampsystems > > from working. So if I can find a wheel that has clamps that require > > less than 4.5" height to install and close that would probably work > > also. Unfortunately the MS Sidewinder and the Thrustmaster Ferrari > > already flunked that test also. Right now I'm thinking that the TM > > Nascar Pro Digital 2 might work, but I need to find one on displayin a

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> > store so I can measure it. > > > > Thanks, > > Hal > > > > Many people find the ECCI heavy enough that they find they don't need > clamps. > > Or at least it sounds like a good excuse for trying to aquire one. > > KFG > >

No need to mail a picture. I think you are right, it probably will work. Not sure yet whether I want force feedback though. I tried a TM Ferrari force feedback wheel with N4, and I couldn't even get around the track. I suppose it's just a matter of getting used to it, but I wonder whether it wouldn't be just as good to get a non-FF wheel. "Sideshow Bob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:IvvS6.11305$[email hidden]... > : That's a good suggestion, but as I mentioned above in another reply,the > : drawer is only about 4.5" deep, which still prevents some clampsystems > : from working. > > If I understand this right then the LWFF should work. The "J" part ofthe > clamp is maybe 1-1.5" high and about 1 to 1.25" long. If it helps Ican

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> email you a small digital picture of the clamp. > > > Dale. > > > >

I went down to the hardware store and bought a pair of deep C clamps, and a two-foot length of 8-inch pine shelf board. I attached my wheel to the pine board, and then used the C clamps to attach the board to the top of my desk. Because of the width of the board, I was able to attach on either side of some under-desk protrubances that prevented me from clamping the wheel directly to the desk. Perhaps you could do something similar? HTH, -- Darryl Johnson "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:65gS6.7987$[email hidden]... > I am looking for a good wheel setup, but I have a unique requirement. > The desk I use has a lap drawer that is 5 inches deep. The drawer > itself is not sturdy enough to clamp to, and I don't want to have to > remove it every time I want to use my wheel. The top of the desk has an > overhang that is about 3/4 inches wide. In other words, if I could find > a wheel that only needs to clamp to the outer 3/4 inches of the desk, > and doesn't extend any deeper, it would work. Does anyone know of such > a wheel? > > Thanks, > Hal > > >

That's a very good suggestion, it might work. The desk I'm using is a two pillar desk, with a lap drawer running the full width between the two pillars. So there really isn't any space that is free of obstruction, but I noticed that there is a 1 inch by .5 inch (w x h) support running laterally under the front of the lap drawer. It's not sturdy enough to handle clamping loads near the middle, but it might be sturdy enough to handle clamping near the sides, where it is attached to the pillars. Actually any wheel with big enough clamps could clamp to it directly, but it is about 6 inches down from the top of the desk, so I doubt that any wheel has clamps big enough to grab it. Thanks for the idea, Hal "Darryl Johnson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:iJAS6.10950$[email hidden]... > I went down to the hardware store and bought a pair of deep C clamps, > and a two-foot length of 8-inch pine shelf board. I attached my wheel > to the pine board, and then used the C clamps to attach the board tothe > top of my desk. Because of the width of the board, I was able toattach

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> on either side of some under-desk protrubances that prevented me from > clamping the wheel directly to the desk. > > Perhaps you could do something similar? > > HTH, > -- > Darryl Johnson > > > "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:65gS6.7987$[email hidden]... > > I am looking for a good wheel setup, but I have a unique

requirement. > > The desk I use has a lap drawer that is 5 inches deep. The drawer > > itself is not sturdy enough to clamp to, and I don't want to have to > > remove it every time I want to use my wheel. The top of the deskhas > an > > overhang that is about 3/4 inches wide. In other words, if I could > find > > a wheel that only needs to clamp to the outer 3/4 inches of thedesk,

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> > and doesn't extend any deeper, it would work. Does anyone know of > such > > a wheel? > > > > Thanks, > > Hal > > > > > > >

"Todd Walker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> www.ecci.net > > Oh yeah, their wheels range from around $500 to around $1800 :-) > > Todd Walker > twalker at jam dot rr dot com > http://twalker.d2g.com >

And are no longer available to the general public. You have to try to find a used one. KFG

"Sean Higgins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I got an idea! Take a piece of 3/4" plywood and set it under your monitor > and protruding from the desk and clap it to that. Just throwing outideas, > because I don't know of any wheels that only clamp on by that littleamount > you were asking about. > > -- > > Sean Higgins > Yeah, instead of just pulling the 5lb. drawer out and setting it aside I get to pick up my 40 lb. monitor, put a 5 lb. board on the desk, replace the 40 lb. monitor, block my chair up 3/4" and try to drive with the board scootching back and forth Much better. : ) KFG

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> www.ecci.net > > Oh yeah, their wheels range from around $500 to around $1800 :-) > > Todd Walker > twalker at jam dot rr dot com > http://twalker.d2g.com > > > > On Mon, 04 Jun 2001 00:10:10 GMT, "Haqsau" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >I'm not familiar with the ECCI. Where would I find one? URL? >

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> www.ecci.net > Oh yeah, their wheels range from around $500 to around $1800 :-) > Todd Walker > twalker at jam dot rr dot com > http://twalker.d2g.com > >I'm not familiar with the ECCI. Where would I find one? URL?

Leave the plywood there if it only sticks out about 3 or 4 inches. Just trying to give some suggestions. -- Sean Higgins Redline Racing League www.rrlnrs.com Redline BGN Division http://home.sprintmail.com/~higgy/RRL/ "Kevin Gavitt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:AKSS6.42897$[email hidden]... > > "Sean Higgins" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I got an idea! Take a piece of 3/4" plywood and set it under your monitor > > and protruding from the desk and clap it to that. Just throwing out > ideas, > > because I don't know of any wheels that only clamp on by that little > amount > > you were asking about. > > > > -- > > > > Sean Higgins > > > > Yeah, instead of just pulling the 5lb. drawer out and setting it aside I get > to pick up my 40 lb. monitor, put a 5 lb. board on the desk, replace the 40 > lb. monitor, block my chair up 3/4" and try to drive with the board > scootching back and forth > > Much better. : ) > > KFG > >

In article <AKSS6.42897$[email hidden]>, "Kevin Gavitt" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>Yeah, instead of just pulling the 5lb. drawer out and setting it aside I get >to pick up my 40 lb. monitor, put a 5 lb. board on the desk, replace the 40 >lb. monitor, block my chair up 3/4" and try to drive with the board >scootching back and forth > >Much better. : ) > >KFG >

Yeah, do that. Maybe I could beat you in a race then... <ok, everybody together now> "Naaahhhh..." :) -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +24.63...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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> Leave the plywood there if it only sticks out about 3 or 4 inches. Just > trying to give some suggestions. > > -- > > Sean Higgins >

I know, I'm just busting on ya. KFG

"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <AKSS6.42897$[email hidden]>, "Kevin Gavitt" > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >Yeah, instead of just pulling the 5lb. drawer out and setting it aside Iget > >to pick up my 40 lb. monitor, put a 5 lb. board on the desk, replace the40

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> >lb. monitor, block my chair up 3/4" and try to drive with the board > >scootching back and forth > > > >Much better. : ) > > > >KFG > > > > Yeah, do that. Maybe I could beat you in a race then... > <ok, everybody together now> > "Naaahhhh..." > :) > --

Oh come now, you've beaten me more than once already. KFG

In article <Q_yT6.148306$[email hidden]>, "Kevin Gavitt" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>> Yeah, do that. Maybe I could beat you in a race then... >> <ok, everybody together now> >> "Naaahhhh..." >> :) >> -- > >Oh come now, you've beaten me more than once already.

Sure, because you got disco'd. That's not beating anyone. That's taking advantage of someone else's bad luck. Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +20.90...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

"EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <Q_yT6.148306$[email hidden]>, "KevinGavitt"

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> <[email hidden]> writes: > > >> Yeah, do that. Maybe I could beat you in a race then... > >> <ok, everybody together now> > >> "Naaahhhh..." > >> :) > >> -- > > > >Oh come now, you've beaten me more than once already. > > Sure, because you got disco'd. That's not beating anyone. That's taking > advantage of someone else's bad luck. > > Eldred > --

Nonsense, you have finished up the road from me in races I've finished, and finished races I crashed out of. KFG

In article <fhQT6.154968$[email hidden]>, "Kevin Gavitt" <[email hidden]> writes:

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>> >Oh come now, you've beaten me more than once already. >> >> Sure, because you got disco'd. That's not beating anyone. That's taking >> advantage of someone else's bad luck. >> >> Eldred >> -- > >Nonsense, you have finished up the road from me in races I've finished, and >finished races I crashed out of.

I have??? Hmm, maybe Simon messed up the results somewhere...<g> Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +20.90...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.