OT: P4 Help

I'm sure there's someone on this group who can help, do I need a 'special' case for a P4 motherboard? I've seen some labelled 'P4'. As far as I can tell the P4 motherboards are just standard ATX. Many thanks for any help given. Andi.

This post may be better answered in a computer.hardware group somewhere.....but to my knowledge the P4 requires a different power supply, not a case. It may work your existing power supply, but might be unstable. "Andi Cole" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9fbck5$d20$[email hidden]...

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> I'm sure there's someone on this group who can help, do I need a 'special' > case for a P4 motherboard? I've seen some labelled 'P4'. As far as I can > tell the P4 motherboards are just standard ATX. > > Many thanks for any help given. > > Andi. > > >

On Sat, 02 Jun 2001 21:31:39 GMT, "Ford Power" <[email hidden]> wrote: >This post may be better answered in a computer.hardware group >somewhere.....but to my knowledge the P4 requires a different power supply, >not a case. It may work your existing power supply, but might be unstable. > Nope, P4 PS has extra connectors. It will fit a standard ATX case though.

A P4 in its socket 423 incarnation NEEDS a NEW P4 compatible case. The heatsink must be mounted to the back panel that the motherboard mounts to. This is because the Intel P4 heatsink is so huge. And on top of that requires 2 additional power connectors. The power supply must meet the ATX 2.03 standard. Jeff, A+ Intel Products Dealer (CCUSAonline.com) "Andi Cole" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9fbck5$d20$[email hidden]...

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> I'm sure there's someone on this group who can help, do I need a 'special' > case for a P4 motherboard? I've seen some labelled 'P4'. As far as I can > tell the P4 motherboards are just standard ATX. > > Many thanks for any help given. > > Andi. > > >

> This is because the Intel P4 heatsink is so huge. Gawd! What's next? 10m high cooling towers? Quote from Pentium CXI Xeon 666EHz manual: "Do *not* disable main power for secondary cooling tower when operating in or over speed-grade Exa-2 (533-833EHz). The resulting heat surge can then affect the performance of lower hydro-vents which *may* cause the main cooling tower to overheat and explode, thus effectively destroying everything within a 2-mile radius." "Intel takes no responsibility.. blah blah."

It depends on the motherboard. The Intel D850GB requires a special set of anchor points, because Intel wants the heatsink screwed down into the case. The Asus, Gigabyte and MSI 850 motherboards don't require a different case. Asus supplies you with a metal plate and rubber sheet to act as an anchor point between the motherboard and the case, but fits in a normal ATX chassis. MSI and Gigabyte use plastic pins to anchor the heatsink into the case. All of them do require a P4-compatible power supply with an extra 12V, 4-pin power connector. However, these now cost no more than any ATX power supply and fit into a standard ATX case. Best regards, Loyd Case "Andi Cole" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9fbck5$d20$[email hidden]...

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> I'm sure there's someone on this group who can help, do I need a 'special' > case for a P4 motherboard? I've seen some labelled 'P4'. As far as I can > tell the P4 motherboards are just standard ATX. > > Many thanks for any help given. > > Andi. > > >

Don't the plastic pins need the properly postioned and threaded holes to anchor the heatsink? If so you need to be a machinist or get a true P4 case. The next gen P4 will not require heatsinks to be "anchored" to the case. Jeff "Loyd Case" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:H1iS6.57594$%[email hidden]... > It depends on the motherboard. > > The Intel D850GB requires a special set of anchor points, because Intel > wants > the heatsink screwed down into the case. The Asus, Gigabyte and MSI 850 > motherboards don't require a different case. Asus supplies you with ametal > plate and rubber sheet to act as an anchor point between the motherboardand

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> the case, but fits in a normal ATX chassis. MSI and Gigabyte use plastic > pins > to anchor the heatsink into the case. > > All of them do require a P4-compatible power supply with an extra 12V, > 4-pin power connector. However, these now cost no more than any ATX > power supply and fit into a standard ATX case. > > Best regards, > > Loyd Case

Assuming you're the Loyd Case who used to write for CGW, I wanted to say "thanks" for a lot of good, informative reading over the years. Still miss your column - it's a pity so many great writers have left the PC gaming mags the last few years, but I imagine consoles are hurting everybody associated with that end of the business. Best regards, Rick "Loyd Case" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:H1iS6.57594$%[email hidden]... > It depends on the motherboard. > > The Intel D850GB requires a special set of anchor points, because Intel > wants > the heatsink screwed down into the case. The Asus, Gigabyte and MSI 850 > motherboards don't require a different case. Asus supplies you with ametal > plate and rubber sheet to act as an anchor point between the motherboardand

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> the case, but fits in a normal ATX chassis. MSI and Gigabyte use plastic > pins > to anchor the heatsink into the case. > > All of them do require a P4-compatible power supply with an extra 12V, > 4-pin power connector. However, these now cost no more than any ATX > power supply and fit into a standard ATX case. > > Best regards, > > Loyd Case

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> "Loyd Case" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:H1iS6.57594$%[email hidden]... > > It depends on the motherboard. > > > > The Intel D850GB requires a special set of anchor points, because Intel > > wants > > the heatsink screwed down into the case. The Asus, Gigabyte and MSI 850 > > motherboards don't require a different case. Asus supplies you with a > metal > > plate and rubber sheet to act as an anchor point between the motherboard > and > > the case, but fits in a normal ATX chassis. MSI and Gigabyte use

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> > pins > > to anchor the heatsink into the case. > > > > All of them do require a P4-compatible power supply with an extra 12V, > > 4-pin power connector. However, these now cost no more than any ATX > > power supply and fit into a standard ATX case. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Loyd Case >

OMFG!!!! *THE* Loyd Case??? Here?! I humbly bow before you. How's the new job coming along? Miss your articles in CGW even though you still seem to pop in every now and again. Regards, badson

Thanks guys I have ordered an Intel MB and a Suntek Vision P4 case - we'll see what happens when we get the P4 1.7 and Geforce 3. Andi. "Andi Cole" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9fbck5$d20$[email hidden]...

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> I'm sure there's someone on this group who can help, do I need a 'special' > case for a P4 motherboard? I've seen some labelled 'P4'. As far as I can > tell the P4 motherboards are just standard ATX. > > Many thanks for any help given. > > Andi. > > >

Andi Cole wrote in message <9fbck5$d20$[email hidden]>...

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>I'm sure there's someone on this group who can help, do I need a 'special' >case for a P4 motherboard? I've seen some labelled 'P4'. As far as I can >tell the P4 motherboards are just standard ATX. > >Many thanks for any help given. > >Andi.

Andy, I thought they fit in ATX.. When you get it running, could you advise me on -if, or not- a Texas Instruments listing is in your system properties? Thanks Pasha

-Liberace, live at Leeds 4 CD set attached- Nos wrote in message ... >On Sat, 02 Jun 2001 21:31:39 GMT, "Ford Power" <[email hidden]> >wrote: > >>This post may be better answered in a computer.hardware group >>somewhere.....but to my knowledge the P4 requires a different powersupply, >>not a case. It may work your existing power supply, but might be unstable. >> > >Nope, P4 PS has extra connectors. It will fit a standard ATX case >though. PLONK!!!!!!! ;-) Pasha

On Sun, 3 Jun 2001 17:29:58 -0400, "M" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>PLONK!!!!!!! > >;-) > > > >Pasha > >

PLONK- PLONK-PLONK!!!

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>On Sun, 3 Jun 2001 17:29:58 -0400, "M" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > >>PLONK!!!!!!! >> >>;-) >> >> >> >>Pasha >> >> > >PLONK- PLONK-PLONK!!!

Canada Plonk Goose? =) Pasha

You don't need a special case. P4 requirements would be for the motherboard, and the ATX refers to the form factor, which encompasses items like dimensions and shape, layout of connective components, position of power supply, etc. You will need a motherboard that support the P4 you're looking to get, and most these days will be in the ATX form factor. -- Philip D'Amato [email hidden] 00 ZX-6R 00 S4 "Andi Cole" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9fbck5$d20$[email hidden]... > I'm sure there's someone on this group who can help, do I need a 'special' > case for a P4 motherboard? I've seen some labelled 'P4'. As far as I can > tell the P4 motherboards are just standard ATX. > > Many thanks for any help given. > > Andi. > > >

However Intel P4 motherboards require a special case with 4 extra mounting bolts to which the heatsink/fan combo is bolted through the motherboard to the backplate the motherboard is mounted on. I have built 4 Intel P4 systems. Jeff "Philip D'Amato" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:8gAS6.3576$[email hidden]... > You don't need a special case. P4 requirements would be for the > motherboard, and the ATX refers to the form factor, which encompassesitems

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> like dimensions and shape, layout of connective components, position of > power supply, etc. You will need a motherboard that support the P4 you're > looking to get, and most these days will be in the ATX form factor. > > -- > Philip D'Amato > [email hidden] > 00 ZX-6R > 00 S4 > > > "Andi Cole" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:9fbck5$d20$[email hidden]... > > I'm sure there's someone on this group who can help, do I need a

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> > case for a P4 motherboard? I've seen some labelled 'P4'. As far as I can > > tell the P4 motherboards are just standard ATX. > > > > Many thanks for any help given. > > > > Andi. > > > > > > > >

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>However Intel P4 motherboards require a special case with 4 extra mounting >bolts to which the heatsink/fan combo is bolted through the motherboard to >the backplate the motherboard is mounted on. > >I have built 4 Intel P4 systems. > >Jeff

Hay Jeff, Do they all have Texas Instruments controllers? Pasha

Ya know, Pash, I'll have to look at the next one I build. Jeff (ps I can do some looking elsewhere... : http://support.intel.com ) "M" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:59QS6.57336$[email hidden]... > > Jeff Hunt wrote in message ... > >However Intel P4 motherboards require a special case with 4 extramounting > >bolts to which the heatsink/fan combo is bolted through the motherboardto

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> >the backplate the motherboard is mounted on. > > > >I have built 4 Intel P4 systems. > > > >Jeff > > > > Hay Jeff, > > Do they all have Texas Instruments controllers? > > > > Pasha > >

Jeff Hunt wrote in message ... >Ya know, Pash, I'll have to look at the next one I build. > >Jeff >(ps I can do some looking elsewhere... : >http://support.intel.com ) I perused the Intel place before, and couldn't find anything for sure, thanks buddy. Pasha

To paraphrase the great Arnold, "I'll be back... real soon now". I'm doing something new for Ziff-Davis again. About five days and counting... As ever, Loyd Case "Rick Baumhauer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9fddum$3clcu$[email hidden]... > Assuming you're the Loyd Case who used to write for CGW, I wanted to say > "thanks" for a lot of good, informative reading over the years. Stillmiss > your column - it's a pity so many great writers have left the PC gamingmags > the last few years, but I imagine consoles are hurting everybodyassociated > with that end of the business.

Loyd Case wrote:

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> > To paraphrase the great Arnold, "I'll be back... real soon now". > > I'm doing something new for Ziff-Davis again. About five days and > counting... > > As ever, > > Loyd Case

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