Hi
I have just upgraded my system from a 3dfx voodoo3 3000 to a Geoforce2 GTS.
I am running GPL with the Opengl patch and it runs fine with a solid 36 FPS
until I exit a race and then the screen drops down about 2/3 so the upped
part is black ?? I am using the Nvidea 778 WHQL drivers on Win 98 se.
Anyone got GPL to run succesufully with a GTS ?
Any help will be appreciated
Andy
Use the D3D patch. Works great here.
Erik
Use D3d, get the latest Nvidia drivers and turn on anisotropic
filtering(looks a LOT better) with RivaTuner. Get the lowdown here
http://www.mjessup.freeserve.co.uk/
> I have just upgraded my system from a 3dfx voodoo3 3000 to a Geoforce2GTS.
Wow, you're a star! I spent hours the other night with NVMax trying to get
anisotropic filtering to work with my GF2 in GPL. As you'll be able to
guess I had no luck. Just off to try it with RivaTuner :)
btw I do a little bit of D3D programming, and even the 6.50 drivers can do
anisotropic filtering when a program requests it, so I'll try enabling it
with the 6.50 drivers first. My own programs have an anisotropic filtering
option, and it does work, and improves texture filtering clarity by a good
30%. This idea that it was only supported from 12.xx onwards is either a
myth, or someone somewhere got misquoted.
Anyway, thanks again :)
"Kirk House" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Use D3d, get the latest Nvidia drivers and turn on anisotropic > filtering(looks a LOT better) with RivaTuner. Get the lowdown here > http://www.mjessup.freeserve.co.uk/ > > > > I have just upgraded my system from a 3dfx voodoo3 3000 to a Geoforce2 > GTS.Don't thank me :) got the info from http://www.simracingmag.com
I'm glad to hear anisotropic filtering works on the older drivers, the new
ones seem a bit flakey.
"Simon Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Wow, you're a star! I spent hours the other night with NVMax trying toget
> anisotropic filtering to work with my GF2 in GPL. As you'll be able to
> guess I had no luck. Just off to try it with RivaTuner :)
>
> btw I do a little bit of D3D programming, and even the 6.50 drivers can do
> anisotropic filtering when a program requests it, so I'll try enabling it
> with the 6.50 drivers first. My own programs have an anisotropicfiltering
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> option, and it does work, and improves texture filtering clarity by a good > 30%. This idea that it was only supported from 12.xx onwards is either a > myth, or someone somewhere got misquoted. > > Anyway, thanks again :) > > "Kirk House" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3b1be2fe$0$772$[email hidden]... > > Use D3d, get the latest Nvidia drivers and turn on anisotropic > > filtering(looks a LOT better) with RivaTuner. Get the lowdown here > > http://www.mjessup.freeserve.co.uk/ > > > > > > > I have just upgraded my system from a 3dfx voodoo3 3000 to a Geoforce2 > > GTS. > >Didn't work with 6.50, but works a dream with 12.40 :) Fixed one of the
main things wrong with the d3d patch, the blurry textures, particularly on
the cars.
I can imagine it would look even better with a GF3 since it supports two
better kinds of anisotropic filtering as well.
"Simon Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Wow, you're a star! I spent hours the other night with NVMax trying toget
> anisotropic filtering to work with my GF2 in GPL. As you'll be able to
> guess I had no luck. Just off to try it with RivaTuner :)
>
> btw I do a little bit of D3D programming, and even the 6.50 drivers can do
> anisotropic filtering when a program requests it, so I'll try enabling it
> with the 6.50 drivers first. My own programs have an anisotropicfiltering
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> option, and it does work, and improves texture filtering clarity by a good > 30%. This idea that it was only supported from 12.xx onwards is either a > myth, or someone somewhere got misquoted. > > Anyway, thanks again :) > > "Kirk House" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3b1be2fe$0$772$[email hidden]... > > Use D3d, get the latest Nvidia drivers and turn on anisotropic > > filtering(looks a LOT better) with RivaTuner. Get the lowdown here > > http://www.mjessup.freeserve.co.uk/ > > > > > > > I have just upgraded my system from a 3dfx voodoo3 3000 to a Geoforce2 > > GTS. > >Please forgive the stupid question but I've been a 3dfx bigot for years.
I will soon be taking delivery of a new PC, with a GF2 Ultra (Herc Prophet
II). Can anybody give me the definitive answer to what the current drivers
are? nvidia.com has Detonator3 version 6.50, but I hear of 7.x, 10.x, 12.x,
etc.
Has nVidia officially released anything newer than 6.50 or are they ALL beta
and/or leaked drivers?
Thanks!
"Simon Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Didn't work with 6.50, but works a dream with 12.40 :) Fixed one of the > main things wrong with the d3d patch, the blurry textures, particularly on > the cars. > > I can imagine it would look even better with a GF3 since it supports two > better kinds of anisotropic filtering as well. >6.50 are the current official drivers, anything higher than that is a leaked
beta.
"Rob Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Please forgive the stupid question but I've been a 3dfx bigot for years.
>
> I will soon be taking delivery of a new PC, with a GF2 Ultra (Herc Prophet
> II). Can anybody give me the definitive answer to what the current drivers
> are? nvidia.com has Detonator3 version 6.50, but I hear of 7.x, 10.x,12.x,
> etc.
>
> Has nVidia officially released anything newer than 6.50 or are they ALLbeta
> and/or leaked drivers?
>
> Thanks!
Er... I didn't mean I'd got anisotropic filtering working with GPL with
6.50. I hadn't tried it when I posted. I've since tried it and it didn't
work, so I'm using 12.40 now. Rather I meant anisotropic filtering works on
my own d3d programs with 6.50.
"Kirk House" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Don't thank me :) got the info from http://www.simracingmag.com
> I'm glad to hear anisotropic filtering works on the older drivers, the new
> ones seem a bit flakey.
Is it worth making the switch to D3D? My GPL is running quite nicely in
OpenGL on my GF2 GTS (looks nicer than I remember D3D on my previous TNT).
What filtering does the OpenGL driver use?
BTW Has anyone got GPL running with the Asus 3D glasses? I haven't got these
working at all (I get funny flickering, but nothing like 3D) in any program.
I know the glasses probably a bit of a gimmick right now, but I'd still like
to give them a bit of a try.
Ryan
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"Kirk House" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Use D3d, get the latest Nvidia drivers and turn on anisotropic
> filtering(looks a LOT better) with RivaTuner. Get the lowdown here
> http://www.mjessup.freeserve.co.uk/
Just wondering what drivers you use? I had problems getting the OpenGL
renderer to work right with GPL. On switching screen resolutions (like when
coming back to the menus after driving) the menus would look all wrong, like
they were being drawn in the wrong place, so the top half of the screen
would be black. I'd really like to try OpenGL though if you know how to get
it working.
Thanks in advance,
Simon.
"Ryan Mitchley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Is it worth making the switch to D3D? My GPL is running quite nicely in
> OpenGL on my GF2 GTS (looks nicer than I remember D3D on my previous TNT).
> What filtering does the OpenGL driver use?
>
> BTW Has anyone got GPL running with the Asus 3D glasses? I haven't gotthese
> working at all (I get funny flickering, but nothing like 3D) in anyprogram.
> I know the glasses probably a bit of a gimmick right now, but I'd stilllike
> to give them a bit of a try.
>
> Ryan
>
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> Faster-than-light travel is indeed possible, though research intoeconomical
> methods has been systematically suppressed by headlamp manufacturers
> and their agents in the Congress.
> --Todd Zwillich
Simon,
It doesnt work when FSAA is turned on. I would really like it to work as
you can use FSAA with the opengl rast. through VROC.
All the best
Ash
"Simon Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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| Just wondering what drivers you use? I had problems getting the OpenGL
| renderer to work right with GPL. On switching screen resolutions (likewhen
| coming back to the menus after driving) the menus would look all wrong,like
| they were being drawn in the wrong place, so the top half of the screen
| would be black. I'd really like to try OpenGL though if you know how toget
| it working.
|
Ok, actually I don't use FSAA myself, I was just hoping to find a way of
stopping the menus going wrong with OpenGL.
"Ashley McConnell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Simon, > > It doesnt work when FSAA is turned on. I would really like it to work as > you can use FSAA with the opengl rast. through VROC. > > All the best > Ash >I'm using the Nvidia Detonator drivers (7.something - I think 7.17 - I'm
away from my home PC right now). I have an Asus V7700 Geforce2 GTS Deluxe.
For the latest Geforce drivers, tweaks and fixes, visit
http://www.geforcefaq.com/faq.html (set aside an evening or two!!!)
Is the menu problem not related to refresh rate at all? Do you see any
screen flicker? Most monitors base index their position settings by the
refresh rate. Have you tried the 16/32 bit colour forcing options (not sure
why these could be a problem)?
I've tried GPL in both Direct3D and OpenGL and the OpenGL seems to look
vastly superior, although I haven't tried to examine exactly why. I *think*
it's a filtering or colour depth issue. D3D looks cartoonish in comparison.
Maybe D3D will look as good with anisotropic filtering, though...
Ryan
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Faster-than-light travel is indeed possible, though research into economical
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"Simon Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Just wondering what drivers you use? I had problems getting the OpenGL
> renderer to work right with GPL. On switching screen resolutions (likewhen
> coming back to the menus after driving) the menus would look all wrong,like
> they were being drawn in the wrong place, so the top half of the screen
> would be black. I'd really like to try OpenGL though if you know how toget
> it working.
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Simon.
Ok, thanks for that. The screen isn't flickering (different problem from
the d3d flickering menus bug), it's just that the menus have sorta been
moved down so they only occupy the bottom 3rd of the screen. The higher the
res, the worse the problem. Actually in 640*480 the problem is gone
completely, since there's no resolution switching (since the menus are also
in 640*480).
I'll try those 7.17 drivers and have a mess round with the OpenGL settings,
thanks again.
Simon.
"Ryan Mitchley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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sure
> why these could be a problem)?
>
> I've tried GPL in both Direct3D and OpenGL and the OpenGL seems to look
> vastly superior, although I haven't tried to examine exactly why. I*think*
> it's a filtering or colour depth issue. D3D looks cartoonish incomparison.
> Maybe D3D will look as good with anisotropic filtering, though...
>
> Ryan
>
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> Faster-than-light travel is indeed possible, though research intoeconomical
> methods has been systematically suppressed by headlamp manufacturers
> and their agents in the Congress.
> --Todd Zwillich
>
>
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> I'm using the Nvidia Detonator drivers (7.something - I think 7.17 - I'm > away from my home PC right now). I have an Asus V7700 Geforce2 GTS Deluxe. > For the latest Geforce drivers, tweaks and fixes, visit > http://www.geforcefaq.com/faq.html (set aside an evening or two!!!) > > Is the menu problem not related to refresh rate at all? Do you see any > screen flicker? Most monitors base index their position settings by the > refresh rate. Have you tried the 16/32 bit colour forcing options (notI don't suppose you run in 640*480 do you, because then you wouldn't ever
see this problem.
"Ryan Mitchley" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I'm using the Nvidia Detonator drivers (7.something - I think 7.17 - I'm
><snip>
>
> Ryan
No, the 7.17 drivers didn't make a difference :(
I'd really like to get to the bottom of this though, if you don't mind
answering a few questions-
Can I ask which OS you have?
Do you run 640*480?
Are you using the beta2 OpenGL renderer? (there was a beta1 OpenGL renderer,
but I don't have it anymore) The beta2 renderer zip file is 66.2 k.
Do you use any video card tweaking utilities, such as NVMax or RivaTuner?
Which version of GPL are you using?
If you could answer any of those questions, it would be really helpful :)
Thanks,
Simon.
Do you use NVMax or RivaTuner or anything similar to tweak your video card
settings?
"Simon Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Ok, thanks for that. The screen isn't flickering (different problem from
> the d3d flickering menus bug), it's just that the menus have sorta been
> moved down so they only occupy the bottom 3rd of the screen. The higherthe
> res, the worse the problem. Actually in 640*480 the problem is gone
> completely, since there's no resolution switching (since the menus arealso
> in 640*480).
>
> I'll try those 7.17 drivers and have a mess round with the OpenGLsettings,
> thanks again.
> Simon.
>
