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rFactor - Multiple installs from one payment?

26 posts by 11 people · 01 Sep 2005 01:01 UTC - 02 Sep 2005 16:00 UTC

rFactor's three-activation copy protection

A buyer asked whether one rFactor purchase could be installed on two PCs. Answers explained the Trymedia scheme of three activations, after which customers must contact support for more. Mitch_A disliked it more than StarForce, though Trymedia confirmed that more activations would be granted. Others complained about rFactor's aggressive AI and confusing menus.

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(unknown) 01 Sep 2005 01:01 UTC#18067
Hi guys, Can I install rFactor on multiple machines from making one payment? I want to install it on two race machines. James
On 31 Aug 2005 18:01:25 -0700, [email hidden] wrote:
Quoted text (7 lines)>Hi guys, > >Can I install rFactor on multiple machines from making one payment? I >want to install it on two race machines. > > >James
Right now that is very much in doubt. From what I hear, you have three unlocks, then apparently you will have to contact customer service for any more. What this means for small home LANs like yours is unknown.
I re-install windows very often. Am I screwed? Funny they dont mention anything about that crap till after you own the dam thing... And.... The AI is the worst attempt in a long time. Ive run this thing for all of 5 lap and have been run over without prejudice at least 10 times. They run right over me, never once making any kind of passing maneuver. Just run over the human like he doesnt exist.... JHC.... Horrible first hour with Rfactor.... "Steve Whitty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:qYsRe.18452$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (22 lines)> > <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >> Hi guys, >> >> Can I install rFactor on multiple machines from making one payment? I >> want to install it on two race machines. >> >> >> James >> > > yes you can. > > before you do, read this, so you understand the situation completely > http://forum.rscnet.org/showthread.php?t=221245 > > > cheers > > steve >
Have you read the Read Me?........... ....................>>Define AI opponent types, strength and aggression<<..................... Perhaps you need to adjust their strength and, particularly, their aggression! Bruce. "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:JwtRe.143$[email hidden]... > > The AI is the worst attempt in a long time. Ive run this thing for all of5 > lap
Yea it was me ;) I had a bad taste in my mouth from the 3 install deal and I let it cloud my thinking. After a bit of tweaking all is good. Mitch "Bruce Kennewell" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (11 lines)> Have you read the Read Me?........... > ....................>>Define AI opponent types, strength and > aggression<<..................... > > Perhaps you need to adjust their strength and, particularly, their > aggression! > > Bruce. > >
I know the 3 install deal is pissing people off, but its really only if you format or do massive hardware changes. kind of like Windows XP does it. it works kind of like lfs. so if you know your going to do a format, and have used your 3 keys, email rfactor support before hand, like a couple of days. get it all ready, and then you reinstall rF no problems. if you can, after a fresh install of windows and rF etc. make a ghost image of your hard drive. I know not all can do it. but there are ways to make your life easier in regards to this matter I know I'd rather do it this way than have starforce. Imagine all the threads here if that were the case. Unfortunately, the way things are done for games is changing. pirated software is the cause of all the hassles. I think the guys at ISI did what they thought was the best compromise for them and for us. the last thing they would want to do is piss off their future customers(unlike DK) this game/sim is their baby. they want it to succeed. thats why no publisher on the back telling them it had to ship at a certain date. it shipped when ready. I'm not speaking on ISI's behalf. just my own point of view. so cut the guys a little slack. they are quite open to constructive critism. post in the forums things you'd like to see added, or changed in rF. heres your chance guys, to get the sim you want, made by simmers themselves. Tell the mod teams what you want. or learn how to do it yourself. one last thing, wait till the modders start releasing for this sucker. I think you'll be pleasantly surprised. I haven't aimed this post at anyone in particular. just my point of view. and besides, what other sim have you got at the moment with good net code, and is inviting you to grab the product by the balls and run with. (modding wise that is) :) wow I'm out of breathe now. cheers steve
Hows things down under Steve? (and no, not New Orleans) Ill take SF anyday... SF has been completely unobtrusive for me despite the ongoing bullshit over all of the non-existent issues its caused (ez target though). This RF scheme on the other hand is extremely annoying and a major PITA compared to SF... I test a bunch of software and as a result I reinstall nearly every month. That in conjunction with my nasty hardware spending habit and Im screwed. I used to use Drive Image religiously but that too has become a pita as much as I change out hardware. Calling MS is a PITA but the process isnt all that bad. Actually I think Im going get the 48hr refund then re-order a CD. On another note, where is the race restart button hidden? Having to exit a race after getting run over by the AI on the first corner is also a PITA. ISI seems to be going the wrong way with the game interface as well. F1x was bad enough but this is ridiculous. Active buttons that are blacked out and bad flow make the interface very difficult to manage. Yeah, after a few hours Ill know the layout but it sure isnt a very intuitive experience to say the least, hehe. Mitch "Steve Whitty" <[email hidden]> wrote in >I know the 3 install deal is pissing people off, but its really only if you
Quoted text (41 lines)> format or do massive hardware changes. kind of like Windows XP does it. > it works kind of like lfs. so if you know your going to do a format, and > have used your 3 keys, email rfactor support before hand, like a couple > of days. get it all ready, and then you reinstall rF no problems. if you > can, after a fresh install of windows and rF etc. make a ghost image of > your hard drive. I know not all can do it. but there are ways to make > your life easier in regards to this matter > > > I know I'd rather do it this way than have starforce. Imagine all the > threads here if that were the case. > > Unfortunately, the way things are done for games is changing. pirated > software is the cause of all the hassles. > > I think the guys at ISI did what they thought was the best compromise for > them and for us. the last thing they would want to do is piss off their > future customers(unlike DK) this game/sim is their baby. they want it to > succeed. thats why no publisher on the back telling them it had to ship > at a certain date. it shipped when ready. > > I'm not speaking on ISI's behalf. just my own point of view. so cut the > guys a little slack. they are quite open to constructive critism. post in > the forums things you'd like to see added, or changed in rF. heres your > chance guys, to get the sim you want, made by simmers themselves. Tell > the mod teams what you want. or learn how to do it yourself. > > one last thing, wait till the modders start releasing for this sucker. I > think you'll be pleasantly surprised. > > I haven't aimed this post at anyone in particular. just my point of view. > and besides, what other sim have you got at the moment with good net code, > and is inviting you to grab the product by the balls and run with. > (modding wise that is) :) > > wow I'm out of breathe now. > > cheers > > steve >
On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 15:58:45 GMT, "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote: >On another note, where is the race restart button hidden? Having to exit a >race after getting run over by the AI on the first corner is also a PITA. Press the R key.
On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 05:01:07 GMT, "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (8 lines)>Yea it was me ;) > >I had a bad taste in my mouth from the 3 install deal and I let it cloud my >thinking. > >After a bit of tweaking all is good. > >Mitch
I don't know...I set aggression to zero and I'm still getting smacked from behind a lot.
I dont believe they see the human on the track. They all cant be a Pedro Rodriquez can they?? LOL. "Praxiteles Democritus" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (15 lines)> On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 05:01:07 GMT, "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > >>Yea it was me ;) >> >>I had a bad taste in my mouth from the 3 install deal and I let it cloud >>my >>thinking. >> >>After a bit of tweaking all is good. >> >>Mitch > > I don't know...I set aggression to zero and I'm still getting smacked > from behind a lot.
"Praxiteles Democritus" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > I don't know...I set aggression to zero and I'm still getting smacked > from behind a lot. ditto - friggin annoying when you're in the middle of a good lap and BANG! WTF are they (ISI) thinking? Un fucking beleivable. And, it seems you can't filter out the faster cars yet and you need to do well to get the faster ones. :( She's a weird old planet let me tell ya! Anyway, just finished my first day with it and am now getting CTDs for some reason - need some sleep - I'll check it out more tomorrow. It looks promising but I remember saying this about GTR too. I just don't know how in the fuck you can release something like that! :(
In article <43175273$0$15521$[email hidden] etworks.com.au>, [email hidden] (Byron Forbes) wrote: > And, it seems you can't > filter out the faster cars Before you hit the "load track" button there's a tab with filter options. I find rF's menus pretty illogical though, just like ISI's other games. I suppose if I'd spent more time in their previous work I'd feel more at home. Andrew McP
No you wouldnt Andrew. Trust me I spent loads of time in GTR and RFactor is worse. Mitch "Andrew MacPherson" > Before you hit the "load track" button there's a tab with > filter options. I find rF's menus pretty illogical though, > just like ISI's other games. I suppose if I'd spent more > time in their previous work I'd feel more at home. > > Andrew McP
On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 16:55:24 GMT, "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote: >I dont believe they see the human on the track. They all cant be a Pedro >Rodriquez can they?? LOL. One word - patch!
On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 00:15:21 GMT, "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote: >No you wouldnt Andrew. Trust me I spent loads of time in GTR and RFactor is >worse. > >Mitch It's not the best interface but after spending a good part of the day playing it the interface becomes second nature soon enough.
yeah doing good Mitch to restart a race its the "Y" key. the dev team knew this wasn't going to appeal to everyone. and knew there would be some complaints about the purchase system. but hey, thats life. cheers steve "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:VyFRe.141$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (74 lines)> Hows things down under Steve? (and no, not New Orleans) > > Ill take SF anyday... SF has been completely unobtrusive for me despite > the ongoing bullshit over all of the non-existent issues its caused (ez > target though). This RF scheme on the other hand is extremely annoying > and a major PITA compared to SF... > > I test a bunch of software and as a result I reinstall nearly every month. > That in conjunction with my nasty hardware spending habit and Im screwed. > I used to use Drive Image religiously but that too has become a pita as > much as I change out hardware. > > Calling MS is a PITA but the process isnt all that bad. > > Actually I think Im going get the 48hr refund then re-order a CD. > > On another note, where is the race restart button hidden? Having to exit > a race after getting run over by the AI on the first corner is also a > PITA. > > ISI seems to be going the wrong way with the game interface as well. F1x > was bad enough but this is ridiculous. Active buttons that are blacked > out and bad flow make the interface very difficult to manage. Yeah, after > a few hours Ill know the layout but it sure isnt a very intuitive > experience to say the least, hehe. > > Mitch > > > "Steve Whitty" <[email hidden]> wrote in >I know the 3 install deal is > pissing people off, but its really only if you >> format or do massive hardware changes. kind of like Windows XP does it. >> it works kind of like lfs. so if you know your going to do a format, and >> have used your 3 keys, email rfactor support before hand, like a couple >> of days. get it all ready, and then you reinstall rF no problems. if you >> can, after a fresh install of windows and rF etc. make a ghost image of >> your hard drive. I know not all can do it. but there are ways to make >> your life easier in regards to this matter >> >> >> I know I'd rather do it this way than have starforce. Imagine all the >> threads here if that were the case. >> >> Unfortunately, the way things are done for games is changing. pirated >> software is the cause of all the hassles. >> >> I think the guys at ISI did what they thought was the best compromise for >> them and for us. the last thing they would want to do is piss off their >> future customers(unlike DK) this game/sim is their baby. they want it >> to succeed. thats why no publisher on the back telling them it had to >> ship at a certain date. it shipped when ready. >> >> I'm not speaking on ISI's behalf. just my own point of view. so cut the >> guys a little slack. they are quite open to constructive critism. post >> in the forums things you'd like to see added, or changed in rF. heres >> your chance guys, to get the sim you want, made by simmers themselves. >> Tell the mod teams what you want. or learn how to do it yourself. >> >> one last thing, wait till the modders start releasing for this sucker. I >> think you'll be pleasantly surprised. >> >> I haven't aimed this post at anyone in particular. just my point of >> view. and besides, what other sim have you got at the moment with good >> net code, and is inviting you to grab the product by the balls and run >> with. (modding wise that is) :) >> >> wow I'm out of breathe now. >> >> cheers >> >> steve >> > >
In article <o3PRe.210664$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (John Smith) wrote: > this sucks, after a few years these guys could be > gone and then we could be S.O.L. I agree the registration thing isn't ideal. But it does seem to be the way PC gaming is going. If it helps make it more profitable (or even simply viable) for developers to keep working on this platform then I suppose we have to support it. And there's always GPL when we can't get any more unlocks :-) Andrew McP
"Praxiteles Democritus" <[email hidden]> wrote > It's not the best interface but after spending a good part of the day > playing it the interface becomes second nature soon enough. You see that's not good gUI. It shouldn't take *any* time at all to feel at ease with an interface. Good interface (ex : NR2003) are good from the start when you load up a sim. Really why do they all keep some sort of weird bloatware/animated menus/thingalings/large buttons that make it all too complicated for nothing. LFS is the opposite. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimago-Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...
I sent an email to Tyremedia (sp?) and they confirmed to me that you get 3 activations then you can contact them and they give ya 3 more and so on. Not that bad at all. Mitch "Andrew MacPherson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (17 lines)> In article <o3PRe.210664$[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] (John Smith) wrote: > >> this sucks, after a few years these guys could be >> gone and then we could be S.O.L. > > I agree the registration thing isn't ideal. But it does > seem to be the way PC gaming is going. If it helps make it > more profitable (or even simply viable) for developers to > keep working on this platform then I suppose we have to > support it. > > And there's always GPL when we can't get any more unlocks > :-) > > Andrew McP >
Peter 02 Sep 2005 07:35 UTC↳ reply to Mitch_A#17937
2005-09-02, Mitch_A wrote: > I sent an email to Tyremedia (sp?) and they confirmed to me that you get 3 > activations then you can contact them and they give ya 3 more and so on. > Not that bad at all. Do you have to use up the first ones? If not - start emailing for more now! :-) -peter
"Peter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:431800aa$0$11065$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (10 lines)> 2005-09-02, Mitch_A wrote: >> I sent an email to Tyremedia (sp?) and they confirmed to me that you get >> 3 >> activations then you can contact them and they give ya 3 more and so on. >> Not that bad at all. > > Do you have to use up the first ones? If not - start emailing for more > now! :-) > > -peter
What happens when they are gone? If you pay for a product it should be yours for life, not the life of the company that sells it. I love the demo, but hate to buy something that might be just a temporary and useless game after a few years. However after saying this I'm sure something better will come along, it just sucks knowing that the software could be rendered useless in a few years..
2005-09-02, John Smith wrote:
Quoted text (13 lines)> > "Peter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:431800aa$0$11065$[email hidden]... >> >> Do you have to use up the first ones? If not - start emailing for more >> now! :-) >> > What happens when they are gone? If you pay for a product it should be yours > for life, not the life of the company that sells it. I love the demo, but > hate to buy something that might be just a temporary and useless game after > a few years. However after saying this I'm sure something better will come > along, it just sucks knowing that the software could be rendered useless in > a few years..
I totally agree - software companies have really gone overboard with this, StarForce, Steam, limited installs. It's almost like they don't want our business :( My call for emailing was to make a point to them - if everyone starts asking for more they might get the hint :-) -peter
Mitch_A 02 Sep 2005 16:00 UTC↳ reply to Peter#17968
No, he specifically said "after you've used up the 3". Mitch "Peter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:431800aa$0$11065$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (10 lines)> 2005-09-02, Mitch_A wrote: >> I sent an email to Tyremedia (sp?) and they confirmed to me that you get >> 3 >> activations then you can contact them and they give ya 3 more and so on. >> Not that bad at all. > > Do you have to use up the first ones? If not - start emailing for more > now! :-) > > -peter

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