Hi guys,
Can I install rFactor on multiple machines from making one payment? I
want to install it on two race machines.
James
rFactor's three-activation copy protection
A buyer asked whether one rFactor purchase could be installed on two PCs. Answers explained the Trymedia scheme of three activations, after which customers must contact support for more. Mitch_A disliked it more than StarForce, though Trymedia confirmed that more activations would be granted. Others complained about rFactor's aggressive AI and confusing menus.
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On 31 Aug 2005 18:01:25 -0700, [email hidden] wrote:
Right now that is very much in doubt. From what I hear, you have
three unlocks, then apparently you will have to contact customer
service for any more. What this means for small home LANs like
yours is unknown.
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>Hi guys, > >Can I install rFactor on multiple machines from making one payment? I >want to install it on two race machines. > > >James
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yes you can.
before you do, read this, so you understand the situation completely
http://forum.rscnet.org/showthread.php?t=221245
cheers
steve
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> Hi guys, > > Can I install rFactor on multiple machines from making one payment? I > want to install it on two race machines. > > > James >I re-install windows very often. Am I screwed? Funny they dont mention
anything about that crap till after you own the dam thing...
And....
The AI is the worst attempt in a long time. Ive run this thing for all of 5
lap and have been run over without prejudice at least 10 times. They run
right over me, never once making any kind of passing maneuver. Just run
over the human like he doesnt exist.... JHC....
Horrible first hour with Rfactor....
"Steve Whitty" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> > <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... >> Hi guys, >> >> Can I install rFactor on multiple machines from making one payment? I >> want to install it on two race machines. >> >> >> James >> > > yes you can. > > before you do, read this, so you understand the situation completely > http://forum.rscnet.org/showthread.php?t=221245 > > > cheers > > steve >Have you read the Read Me?...........
....................>>Define AI opponent types, strength and
aggression<<.....................
Perhaps you need to adjust their strength and, particularly, their
aggression!
Bruce.
"Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>
> The AI is the worst attempt in a long time. Ive run this thing for all of5
> lap
Yea it was me ;)
I had a bad taste in my mouth from the 3 install deal and I let it cloud my
thinking.
After a bit of tweaking all is good.
Mitch
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> Have you read the Read Me?........... > ....................>>Define AI opponent types, strength and > aggression<<..................... > > Perhaps you need to adjust their strength and, particularly, their > aggression! > > Bruce. > >I know the 3 install deal is pissing people off, but its really only if you
format or do massive hardware changes. kind of like Windows XP does it. it
works kind of like lfs. so if you know your going to do a format, and have
used your 3 keys, email rfactor support before hand, like a couple of days.
get it all ready, and then you reinstall rF no problems. if you can, after
a fresh install of windows and rF etc. make a ghost image of your hard
drive. I know not all can do it. but there are ways to make your life
easier in regards to this matter
I know I'd rather do it this way than have starforce. Imagine all the
threads here if that were the case.
Unfortunately, the way things are done for games is changing. pirated
software is the cause of all the hassles.
I think the guys at ISI did what they thought was the best compromise for
them and for us. the last thing they would want to do is piss off their
future customers(unlike DK) this game/sim is their baby. they want it to
succeed. thats why no publisher on the back telling them it had to ship at
a certain date. it shipped when ready.
I'm not speaking on ISI's behalf. just my own point of view. so cut the
guys a little slack. they are quite open to constructive critism. post in
the forums things you'd like to see added, or changed in rF. heres your
chance guys, to get the sim you want, made by simmers themselves. Tell the
mod teams what you want. or learn how to do it yourself.
one last thing, wait till the modders start releasing for this sucker. I
think you'll be pleasantly surprised.
I haven't aimed this post at anyone in particular. just my point of view.
and besides, what other sim have you got at the moment with good net code,
and is inviting you to grab the product by the balls and run with. (modding
wise that is) :)
wow I'm out of breathe now.
cheers
steve
Hows things down under Steve? (and no, not New Orleans)
Ill take SF anyday... SF has been completely unobtrusive for me despite the
ongoing bullshit over all of the non-existent issues its caused (ez target
though). This RF scheme on the other hand is extremely annoying and a major
PITA compared to SF...
I test a bunch of software and as a result I reinstall nearly every month.
That in conjunction with my nasty hardware spending habit and Im screwed. I
used to use Drive Image religiously but that too has become a pita as much
as I change out hardware.
Calling MS is a PITA but the process isnt all that bad.
Actually I think Im going get the 48hr refund then re-order a CD.
On another note, where is the race restart button hidden? Having to exit a
race after getting run over by the AI on the first corner is also a PITA.
ISI seems to be going the wrong way with the game interface as well. F1x
was bad enough but this is ridiculous. Active buttons that are blacked out
and bad flow make the interface very difficult to manage. Yeah, after a few
hours Ill know the layout but it sure isnt a very intuitive experience to
say the least, hehe.
Mitch
"Steve Whitty" <[email hidden]> wrote in >I know the 3 install deal is
pissing people off, but its really only if you
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> format or do massive hardware changes. kind of like Windows XP does it. > it works kind of like lfs. so if you know your going to do a format, and > have used your 3 keys, email rfactor support before hand, like a couple > of days. get it all ready, and then you reinstall rF no problems. if you > can, after a fresh install of windows and rF etc. make a ghost image of > your hard drive. I know not all can do it. but there are ways to make > your life easier in regards to this matter > > > I know I'd rather do it this way than have starforce. Imagine all the > threads here if that were the case. > > Unfortunately, the way things are done for games is changing. pirated > software is the cause of all the hassles. > > I think the guys at ISI did what they thought was the best compromise for > them and for us. the last thing they would want to do is piss off their > future customers(unlike DK) this game/sim is their baby. they want it to > succeed. thats why no publisher on the back telling them it had to ship > at a certain date. it shipped when ready. > > I'm not speaking on ISI's behalf. just my own point of view. so cut the > guys a little slack. they are quite open to constructive critism. post in > the forums things you'd like to see added, or changed in rF. heres your > chance guys, to get the sim you want, made by simmers themselves. Tell > the mod teams what you want. or learn how to do it yourself. > > one last thing, wait till the modders start releasing for this sucker. I > think you'll be pleasantly surprised. > > I haven't aimed this post at anyone in particular. just my point of view. > and besides, what other sim have you got at the moment with good net code, > and is inviting you to grab the product by the balls and run with. > (modding wise that is) :) > > wow I'm out of breathe now. > > cheers > > steve >On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 15:58:45 GMT, "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]>
wrote:
>On another note, where is the race restart button hidden? Having to exit a
>race after getting run over by the AI on the first corner is also a PITA.
Press the R key.
On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 05:01:07 GMT, "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]>
wrote:
I don't know...I set aggression to zero and I'm still getting smacked
from behind a lot.
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>Yea it was me ;) > >I had a bad taste in my mouth from the 3 install deal and I let it cloud my >thinking. > >After a bit of tweaking all is good. > >MitchI dont believe they see the human on the track. They all cant be a Pedro
Rodriquez can they?? LOL.
"Praxiteles Democritus" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 05:01:07 GMT, "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > >>Yea it was me ;) >> >>I had a bad taste in my mouth from the 3 install deal and I let it cloud >>my >>thinking. >> >>After a bit of tweaking all is good. >> >>Mitch > > I don't know...I set aggression to zero and I'm still getting smacked > from behind a lot.R-Key is the replay... I havent tried a shift-r yet.
"Praxiteles Democritus" <[email hidden]> wrote in >
> Press the R key.
"Praxiteles Democritus" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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>
> I don't know...I set aggression to zero and I'm still getting smacked
> from behind a lot.
ditto - friggin annoying when you're in the middle of a good lap and BANG!
WTF are they (ISI) thinking? Un fucking beleivable. And, it seems you can't
filter out the faster cars yet and you need to do well to get the faster
ones. :(
She's a weird old planet let me tell ya!
Anyway, just finished my first day with it and am now getting CTDs for
some reason - need some sleep - I'll check it out more tomorrow.
It looks promising but I remember saying this about GTR too. I just
don't know how in the fuck you can release something like that! :(
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etworks.com.au>, [email hidden] (Byron Forbes)
wrote:
> And, it seems you can't
> filter out the faster cars
Before you hit the "load track" button there's a tab with
filter options. I find rF's menus pretty illogical though,
just like ISI's other games. I suppose if I'd spent more
time in their previous work I'd feel more at home.
Andrew McP
No you wouldnt Andrew. Trust me I spent loads of time in GTR and RFactor is
worse.
Mitch
"Andrew MacPherson" > Before you hit the "load track" button there's a tab
with
> filter options. I find rF's menus pretty illogical though,
> just like ISI's other games. I suppose if I'd spent more
> time in their previous work I'd feel more at home.
>
> Andrew McP
On Thu, 01 Sep 2005 16:55:24 GMT, "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]>
wrote:
>I dont believe they see the human on the track. They all cant be a Pedro
>Rodriquez can they?? LOL.
One word - patch!
On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 00:15:21 GMT, "Mitch_A" <[email hidden]>
wrote:
>No you wouldnt Andrew. Trust me I spent loads of time in GTR and RFactor is
>worse.
>
>Mitch
It's not the best interface but after spending a good part of the day
playing it the interface becomes second nature soon enough.
yeah doing good Mitch
to restart a race its the "Y" key.
the dev team knew this wasn't going to appeal to everyone. and knew there
would be some complaints about the purchase system. but hey, thats life.
cheers
steve
"Mitch_A" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Hows things down under Steve? (and no, not New Orleans) > > Ill take SF anyday... SF has been completely unobtrusive for me despite > the ongoing bullshit over all of the non-existent issues its caused (ez > target though). This RF scheme on the other hand is extremely annoying > and a major PITA compared to SF... > > I test a bunch of software and as a result I reinstall nearly every month. > That in conjunction with my nasty hardware spending habit and Im screwed. > I used to use Drive Image religiously but that too has become a pita as > much as I change out hardware. > > Calling MS is a PITA but the process isnt all that bad. > > Actually I think Im going get the 48hr refund then re-order a CD. > > On another note, where is the race restart button hidden? Having to exit > a race after getting run over by the AI on the first corner is also a > PITA. > > ISI seems to be going the wrong way with the game interface as well. F1x > was bad enough but this is ridiculous. Active buttons that are blacked > out and bad flow make the interface very difficult to manage. Yeah, after > a few hours Ill know the layout but it sure isnt a very intuitive > experience to say the least, hehe. > > Mitch > > > "Steve Whitty" <[email hidden]> wrote in >I know the 3 install deal is > pissing people off, but its really only if you >> format or do massive hardware changes. kind of like Windows XP does it. >> it works kind of like lfs. so if you know your going to do a format, and >> have used your 3 keys, email rfactor support before hand, like a couple >> of days. get it all ready, and then you reinstall rF no problems. if you >> can, after a fresh install of windows and rF etc. make a ghost image of >> your hard drive. I know not all can do it. but there are ways to make >> your life easier in regards to this matter >> >> >> I know I'd rather do it this way than have starforce. Imagine all the >> threads here if that were the case. >> >> Unfortunately, the way things are done for games is changing. pirated >> software is the cause of all the hassles. >> >> I think the guys at ISI did what they thought was the best compromise for >> them and for us. the last thing they would want to do is piss off their >> future customers(unlike DK) this game/sim is their baby. they want it >> to succeed. thats why no publisher on the back telling them it had to >> ship at a certain date. it shipped when ready. >> >> I'm not speaking on ISI's behalf. just my own point of view. so cut the >> guys a little slack. they are quite open to constructive critism. post >> in the forums things you'd like to see added, or changed in rF. heres >> your chance guys, to get the sim you want, made by simmers themselves. >> Tell the mod teams what you want. or learn how to do it yourself. >> >> one last thing, wait till the modders start releasing for this sucker. I >> think you'll be pleasantly surprised. >> >> I haven't aimed this post at anyone in particular. just my point of >> view. and besides, what other sim have you got at the moment with good >> net code, and is inviting you to grab the product by the balls and run >> with. (modding wise that is) :) >> >> wow I'm out of breathe now. >> >> cheers >> >> steve >> > >this sucks, after a few years these guys could be gone and then we could be
S.O.L. I know there has to be a better way..
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[email hidden] (John Smith) wrote:
> this sucks, after a few years these guys could be
> gone and then we could be S.O.L.
I agree the registration thing isn't ideal. But it does
seem to be the way PC gaming is going. If it helps make it
more profitable (or even simply viable) for developers to
keep working on this platform then I suppose we have to
support it.
And there's always GPL when we can't get any more unlocks
:-)
Andrew McP
"Praxiteles Democritus" <[email hidden]> wrote
> It's not the best interface but after spending a good part of the day
> playing it the interface becomes second nature soon enough.
You see that's not good gUI. It shouldn't take *any* time at all to feel at
ease with an interface. Good interface (ex : NR2003) are good from the
start when you load up a sim. Really why do they all keep some sort of
weird bloatware/animated menus/thingalings/large buttons that make it all
too complicated for nothing. LFS is the opposite.
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I sent an email to Tyremedia (sp?) and they confirmed to me that you get 3
activations then you can contact them and they give ya 3 more and so on.
Not that bad at all.
Mitch
"Andrew MacPherson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> In article <o3PRe.210664$[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] (John Smith) wrote: > >> this sucks, after a few years these guys could be >> gone and then we could be S.O.L. > > I agree the registration thing isn't ideal. But it does > seem to be the way PC gaming is going. If it helps make it > more profitable (or even simply viable) for developers to > keep working on this platform then I suppose we have to > support it. > > And there's always GPL when we can't get any more unlocks > :-) > > Andrew McP >2005-09-02, Mitch_A wrote:
> I sent an email to Tyremedia (sp?) and they confirmed to me that you get 3
> activations then you can contact them and they give ya 3 more and so on.
> Not that bad at all.
Do you have to use up the first ones? If not - start emailing for more
now! :-)
-peter
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What happens when they are gone? If you pay for a product it should be yours
for life, not the life of the company that sells it. I love the demo, but
hate to buy something that might be just a temporary and useless game after
a few years. However after saying this I'm sure something better will come
along, it just sucks knowing that the software could be rendered useless in
a few years..
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> 2005-09-02, Mitch_A wrote: >> I sent an email to Tyremedia (sp?) and they confirmed to me that you get >> 3 >> activations then you can contact them and they give ya 3 more and so on. >> Not that bad at all. > > Do you have to use up the first ones? If not - start emailing for more > now! :-) > > -peter2005-09-02, John Smith wrote:
I totally agree - software companies have really gone overboard with this,
StarForce, Steam, limited installs. It's almost like they don't want
our business :(
My call for emailing was to make a point to them - if everyone starts
asking for more they might get the hint :-)
-peter
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> > "Peter" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:431800aa$0$11065$[email hidden]... >> >> Do you have to use up the first ones? If not - start emailing for more >> now! :-) >> > What happens when they are gone? If you pay for a product it should be yours > for life, not the life of the company that sells it. I love the demo, but > hate to buy something that might be just a temporary and useless game after > a few years. However after saying this I'm sure something better will come > along, it just sucks knowing that the software could be rendered useless in > a few years..No, he specifically said "after you've used up the 3".
Mitch
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