I'm really fed up now!

Hi Group, Well, anyone who has read my most recent posts, will know that I just bought a New Guillemot/TM Ferrari FF Wheel. I like the quality etc of the wheel but, I have been doing a bit of testing with and without FF turned on. I am almost on the point of deciding (Like Jamnut), that FF is not for me, and I would have been better saving quite a LOT of cash, and buying the non-FF version :( I am finding the steering far easier to use with FF switched to 0 in core.ini. However, there is another problem far more serious than any choice between FF and non-FF. It is the ridiculous amount of play in the centre of the wheel, the famous DEADZONE :( It has been bad enough for me to shut stop driving GPL and, shut the PC off absolutely fuming a few times now, (just now included!). There was a fix available, a hacked version of dinput.dll which, reduced the deadzone set by MS, to 0% in place of the "standard" 5%. Sadly, this was only for an earlier version of DirectX (5.0 Maybe?). It will NOT work with DirectX 8.0a, which I now use. (Wheel won't even work without the latest dinput.dll)! So, does anyone have an answer to this? Is there a tweak utility similar to Dx-tweak for the LW FF wheels? If so, where would I find it please? I feel at the moment that with the wheel as it is, I don't even want to drive GPL, and that is MOST unusual for me, as I drive it for a good few hours EVERY single day! So, you can see how annoyed I am with this "play" in the middle of the wheel. When I turn my steering wheel 1 mm, I expect the "road wheels" to move 1mm, NOT turn wheel thru one quarter of an inch, let's say, before getting ANY movement from the "road wheels!". I'm really fed up now! as the subject says. Please suggest something to cure this, before I go completely mad and chuck the whole lot out the window. Although when I was using my niece's TM Sprint wheel (3 years old), it had a few "twitches" with it, which caused a few calibration problems, (wheel would not stay completely still when calibrated!), at least I was able to drive quite well with it. I managed a 1:30:92 at Monza, and was getting better all the time. Soon as I had this new wheel, I thought, here comes a 1:29:xx (Or less) at Monza! Hahahahahaha! I DON'T think so! The fastest I have gone at Monza with this Ferrari FF is a lousy 1:33:55 (lotus) last night, and I don't know where that came from with the wheel the way it is with this silly deadzone :( If there is NO cure for this, I am thinking of taking it back, and hopefully they will swap it for a non-FF version! PLEASE TRY AND HELP ME! Sorry for such a long message, but as you can see, I'm VERY angry at the moment! Fuming Mad Max (Andrew)

Well I don't want to make you any madder so please take this with a grain of salt, but I believe DXTweak is not specific to LWFF wheels but rather edits DirectX settings themselves to remove deadzones from ANY game controller. However, I have an LWFF, so I don't have experience with any other wheels. DXTweak worked great for me. "MAD MAX" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Hi Group, > > Well, anyone who has read my most recent posts, will know that I justbought > a New Guillemot/TM Ferrari FF Wheel. I like the quality etc of the wheel > but, I have been doing a bit of testing with and without FF turned on. Iam > almost on the point of deciding (Like Jamnut), that FF is not for me, andI > would have been better saving quite a LOT of cash, and buying the non-FF > version :( I am finding the steering far easier to use with FF switched to0 > in core.ini. However, there is another problem far more serious than any > choice between FF and non-FF. It is the ridiculous amount of play in the > centre of the wheel, the famous DEADZONE :( It has been bad enough for meto > shut stop driving GPL and, shut the PC off absolutely fuming a few times > now, (just now included!). There was a fix available, a hacked version of > dinput.dll which, reduced the deadzone set by MS, to 0% in place of the > "standard" 5%. Sadly, this was only for an earlier version of DirectX (5.0 > Maybe?). It will NOT work with DirectX 8.0a, which I now use. (Wheel won't > even work without the latest dinput.dll)! So, does anyone have an answerto > this? Is there a tweak utility similar to Dx-tweak for the LW FF wheels?If > so, where would I find it please? I feel at the moment that with the wheel > as it is, I don't even want to drive GPL, and that is MOST unusual for me, > as I drive it for a good few hours EVERY single day! So, you can see how > annoyed I am with this "play" in the middle of the wheel. When I turn my > steering wheel 1 mm, I expect the "road wheels" to move 1mm, NOT turnwheel > thru one quarter of an inch, let's say, before getting ANY movement fromthe > "road wheels!". I'm really fed up now! as the subject says. Please suggest > something to cure this, before I go completely mad and chuck the whole lot > out the window. Although when I was using my niece's TM Sprint wheel (3 > years old), it had a few "twitches" with it, which caused a fewcalibration > problems, (wheel would not stay completely still when calibrated!), atleast > I was able to drive quite well with it. I managed a 1:30:92 at Monza, and > was getting better all the time. Soon as I had this new wheel, I thought, > here comes a 1:29:xx (Or less) at Monza! Hahahahahaha! I DON'T think so!The > fastest I have gone at Monza with this Ferrari FF is a lousy 1:33:55(lotus) > last night, and I don't know where that came from with the wheel the wayit

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> is with this silly deadzone :( If there is NO cure for this, I am thinking > of taking it back, and hopefully they will swap it for a non-FF version! > PLEASE TRY AND HELP ME! Sorry for such a long message, but as you can see, > I'm VERY angry at the moment! > > Fuming Mad Max (Andrew) > >

Yea it was long Max...lol Ok DXTweak works fine for me! I am running Windows98'SE if this matters? My deadzone is flat on 0 all the time & Uncle Fester posted something awhile ago to help but I dont have the post.. sorry! I use to have your problem with the 1/4" slack until the DXTweak. I hope this will help but you also should fiddle with both the core.ini & your control panel applet until you get a nice smooth action.. I know it is frustrating right now but give it a day or 2 more and see... If not then maybe you should take it back. When anyone is unhappy with any product & can't resolve their problems with it, Get rid of it. Good luck Thom_j. "MAD MAX" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... | Hi Group,<snipped> | PLEASE TRY AND HELP ME! Sorry for such a long message, but as you can see, | I'm VERY angry at the moment! | Fuming Mad Max (Andrew) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.259 / Virus Database: 130 - Release Date: 6/5/2001

Max, Sounds like your wheel's a piece of crap. Return it. Find yourself an original LWFF--not the GP version. I got a refurbished one at an online auction, and I immediately started driving faster. A good FF wheel should make the car easier to drive, not harder. After you get an original LWFF, get the ball bearing kit from Jens, http://members.nbci.com/_XMCM/jensschu/index.html. Mine's on order, but others say the center play is entirely eliminated, and that driving with the converted wheel is altogether delightful. Be warned, LWFF wheels (original and GP) twitch in 2k. Don't get one unless you're running 9x. --Jeff "MAD MAX" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Hi Group, > > Well, anyone who has read my most recent posts, will know that I justbought > a New Guillemot/TM Ferrari FF Wheel. I like the quality etc of the wheel > but, I have been doing a bit of testing with and without FF turned on. Iam > almost on the point of deciding (Like Jamnut), that FF is not for me, andI > would have been better saving quite a LOT of cash, and buying the non-FF > version :( I am finding the steering far easier to use with FF switched to0 > in core.ini. However, there is another problem far more serious than any > choice between FF and non-FF. It is the ridiculous amount of play in the > centre of the wheel, the famous DEADZONE :( It has been bad enough for meto > shut stop driving GPL and, shut the PC off absolutely fuming a few times > now, (just now included!). There was a fix available, a hacked version of > dinput.dll which, reduced the deadzone set by MS, to 0% in place of the > "standard" 5%. Sadly, this was only for an earlier version of DirectX (5.0 > Maybe?). It will NOT work with DirectX 8.0a, which I now use. (Wheel won't > even work without the latest dinput.dll)! So, does anyone have an answerto > this? Is there a tweak utility similar to Dx-tweak for the LW FF wheels?If > so, where would I find it please? I feel at the moment that with the wheel > as it is, I don't even want to drive GPL, and that is MOST unusual for me, > as I drive it for a good few hours EVERY single day! So, you can see how > annoyed I am with this "play" in the middle of the wheel. When I turn my > steering wheel 1 mm, I expect the "road wheels" to move 1mm, NOT turnwheel > thru one quarter of an inch, let's say, before getting ANY movement fromthe > "road wheels!". I'm really fed up now! as the subject says. Please suggest > something to cure this, before I go completely mad and chuck the whole lot > out the window. Although when I was using my niece's TM Sprint wheel (3 > years old), it had a few "twitches" with it, which caused a fewcalibration > problems, (wheel would not stay completely still when calibrated!), atleast > I was able to drive quite well with it. I managed a 1:30:92 at Monza, and > was getting better all the time. Soon as I had this new wheel, I thought, > here comes a 1:29:xx (Or less) at Monza! Hahahahahaha! I DON'T think so!The > fastest I have gone at Monza with this Ferrari FF is a lousy 1:33:55(lotus) > last night, and I don't know where that came from with the wheel the wayit

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> is with this silly deadzone :( If there is NO cure for this, I am thinking > of taking it back, and hopefully they will swap it for a non-FF version! > PLEASE TRY AND HELP ME! Sorry for such a long message, but as you can see, > I'm VERY angry at the moment! > > Fuming Mad Max (Andrew) > >

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > Hi Group, > > Well, anyone who has read my most recent posts, will know that I just bought > a New Guillemot/TM Ferrari FF Wheel. I like the quality etc of the wheel > .... > It works just fine with DXtweak and the Ferrari wheel. Great wheel but like you I had big problems in the beginning with the force but got used to it eventually and now I can't be without the force. -- Johan N [email hidden]

Johan N <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > > Hi Group, > > > > Well, anyone who has read my most recent posts, will know that I justbought

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> > a New Guillemot/TM Ferrari FF Wheel. I like the quality etc of the wheel > > .... > > > It works just fine with DXtweak and the Ferrari wheel. > Great wheel but like you I had big problems in the beginning with the > force but got used to it eventually and now > I can't be without the force. > --

<skipping obligatory star wars reference.....> I got much faster after getting used to the FF. I didn't like it at first either.

They twitch in ME too. Well mine does anyway. "Jeffrey Rowe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9ftvf9$lgg$[email hidden]... > Be warned, LWFF wheels (original and GP) twitch in 2k. Don't get one > unless you're running 9x. > > --Jeff

Junk the wheel and get a Microsoft Force feedback wheel ! It is precise and there is no deadzone and the force is enough to throw my 4 year old off the chair if he hits a barrier ! Pete "MAD MAX" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Hi Group, > > Well, anyone who has read my most recent posts, will know that I justbought > a New Guillemot/TM Ferrari FF Wheel. I like the quality etc of the wheel > but, I have been doing a bit of testing with and without FF turned on. Iam > almost on the point of deciding (Like Jamnut), that FF is not for me, andI > would have been better saving quite a LOT of cash, and buying the non-FF > version :( I am finding the steering far easier to use with FF switched to0 > in core.ini. However, there is another problem far more serious than any > choice between FF and non-FF. It is the ridiculous amount of play in the > centre of the wheel, the famous DEADZONE :( It has been bad enough for meto > shut stop driving GPL and, shut the PC off absolutely fuming a few times > now, (just now included!). There was a fix available, a hacked version of > dinput.dll which, reduced the deadzone set by MS, to 0% in place of the > "standard" 5%. Sadly, this was only for an earlier version of DirectX (5.0 > Maybe?). It will NOT work with DirectX 8.0a, which I now use. (Wheel won't > even work without the latest dinput.dll)! So, does anyone have an answerto > this? Is there a tweak utility similar to Dx-tweak for the LW FF wheels?If > so, where would I find it please? I feel at the moment that with the wheel > as it is, I don't even want to drive GPL, and that is MOST unusual for me, > as I drive it for a good few hours EVERY single day! So, you can see how > annoyed I am with this "play" in the middle of the wheel. When I turn my > steering wheel 1 mm, I expect the "road wheels" to move 1mm, NOT turnwheel > thru one quarter of an inch, let's say, before getting ANY movement fromthe > "road wheels!". I'm really fed up now! as the subject says. Please suggest > something to cure this, before I go completely mad and chuck the whole lot > out the window. Although when I was using my niece's TM Sprint wheel (3 > years old), it had a few "twitches" with it, which caused a fewcalibration > problems, (wheel would not stay completely still when calibrated!), atleast > I was able to drive quite well with it. I managed a 1:30:92 at Monza, and > was getting better all the time. Soon as I had this new wheel, I thought, > here comes a 1:29:xx (Or less) at Monza! Hahahahahaha! I DON'T think so!The > fastest I have gone at Monza with this Ferrari FF is a lousy 1:33:55(lotus) > last night, and I don't know where that came from with the wheel the wayit

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> is with this silly deadzone :( If there is NO cure for this, I am thinking > of taking it back, and hopefully they will swap it for a non-FF version! > PLEASE TRY AND HELP ME! Sorry for such a long message, but as you can see, > I'm VERY angry at the moment! > > Fuming Mad Max (Andrew) > >

DXTweak definitely works with DX8a and the Guillemot Ferrari. I have the deadzone on 1% at the moment. FF will make you slower at first. Plus remember you are getting used to a new set of pedals. I found the pivot tops on the pedals unusable, so I added a couple of washers and tightenned them up so they couldn't pivot. That did improve them. Right now I'm using the wheel from the Ferrari and the pedals from an MS precision racing wheel. Make sure you don't have the FF too strong, it's not supposed to pull the wheel out of your hands. And don't be afraid to turn through the FF, it doesn't hurt the wheel. As for the Logitech, I used to be a big fan of the original LWFF, but I tried mine again recently and was really dissapointed in the feel given by the FF compared to the Ferrari. Plus the pedals on the LWFF are unspeakably bad. "MAD MAX" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Hi Group, > > Well, anyone who has read my most recent posts, will know that I justbought > a New Guillemot/TM Ferrari FF Wheel. I like the quality etc of the wheel > but, I have been doing a bit of testing with and without FF turned on. Iam > almost on the point of deciding (Like Jamnut), that FF is not for me, andI > would have been better saving quite a LOT of cash, and buying the non-FF > version :( I am finding the steering far easier to use with FF switched to0 > in core.ini. However, there is another problem far more serious than any > choice between FF and non-FF. It is the ridiculous amount of play in the > centre of the wheel, the famous DEADZONE :( It has been bad enough for meto

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> shut stop driving GPL and, shut the PC off absolutely fuming a few times > now, (just now included!). There was a fix available, a hacked version of > dinput.dll which, reduced the deadzone set by MS, to 0% in place of the > "standard" 5%. Sadly, this was only for an earlier version of DirectX (5.0 > Maybe?). It will NOT work with DirectX 8.0a, which I now use. (Wheel won't > even work without the latest dinput.dll)! So, does anyone have an answer

to > this? Is there a tweak utility similar to Dx-tweak for the LW FF wheels?If > so, where would I find it please? I feel at the moment that with the wheel > as it is, I don't even want to drive GPL, and that is MOST unusual for me, > as I drive it for a good few hours EVERY single day! So, you can see how > annoyed I am with this "play" in the middle of the wheel. When I turn my > steering wheel 1 mm, I expect the "road wheels" to move 1mm, NOT turnwheel > thru one quarter of an inch, let's say, before getting ANY movement fromthe > "road wheels!". I'm really fed up now! as the subject says. Please suggest > something to cure this, before I go completely mad and chuck the whole lot > out the window. Although when I was using my niece's TM Sprint wheel (3 > years old), it had a few "twitches" with it, which caused a fewcalibration > problems, (wheel would not stay completely still when calibrated!), atleast > I was able to drive quite well with it. I managed a 1:30:92 at Monza, and > was getting better all the time. Soon as I had this new wheel, I thought, > here comes a 1:29:xx (Or less) at Monza! Hahahahahaha! I DON'T think so!The > fastest I have gone at Monza with this Ferrari FF is a lousy 1:33:55(lotus) > last night, and I don't know where that came from with the wheel the wayit

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> is with this silly deadzone :( If there is NO cure for this, I am thinking > of taking it back, and hopefully they will swap it for a non-FF version! > PLEASE TRY AND HELP ME! Sorry for such a long message, but as you can see, > I'm VERY angry at the moment! > > Fuming Mad Max (Andrew) > >

I've also owned a usb MS FF wheel, and under demanding conditions, like full-grid race starts, it slowed GPL down considerably and made everything stutter, so I took it back for a refund. Also the FF was notchy and noisy. "Simon Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:mYxU6.27210$[email hidden]... > blah

"Simon Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:xayU6.27333$[email hidden]... > I've also owned a usb MS FF wheel, and under demanding conditions, like > full-grid race starts, it slowed GPL down considerably and made everything > stutter, so I took it back for a refund. Also the FF was notchy andnoisy. It needs at least 10 hours in operation to become smooth and still improves after that. One should not judge it as it comes right out of the box. My first impression of the wheel was a bit like "God what have I bought now" (coming from ECCI CDS2R) but when it's rubbed in so to speak and get used to it, you have a great wheel for a very reasonable price. Bart Westra

In article <[email hidden]>, MAD MAX <[email hidden]> writes >Hi Group, ><snip>

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>The >fastest I have gone at Monza with this Ferrari FF is a lousy 1:33:55 (lotus) >last night, and I don't know where that came from with the wheel the way it >is with this silly deadzone :( If there is NO cure for this, I am thinking >of taking it back, and hopefully they will swap it for a non-FF version! >PLEASE TRY AND HELP ME! Sorry for such a long message, but as you >can see, >I'm VERY angry at the moment! > >Fuming Mad Max (Andrew) > >

I've had the Thrustmaster Ferrari FF wheel for the past couple of months now, but can't say that I've ever noticed this deadzone problem. I actually find it quite difficult to ensure that the car is going as straight as I would like at times, especially under hard braking in GPL when the car can suddenly veer off to the left or right unexpectedly, even though I'm keeping the wheel as centered as possible. I've had to use a linearity setting at about 2/3rds non-linear to compensate for this. Is there a way of demonstrating this easily somewhere in the game to show what you are referring to? -- Peter Ives Remove ALL_STRESS before replying If you know what's good for you, don't listen to me GPLRank Joystick -50.63 Wheel -14.08

"Peter Ives" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <[email hidden]>, MAD MAX<[email hidden]>

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> writes > >Hi Group, > > > <snip> > > >The > >fastest I have gone at Monza with this Ferrari FF is a lousy

1:33:55 (lotus) > >last night, and I don't know where that came from with the wheelthe way it > >is with this silly deadzone :( If there is NO cure for this, I amthinking > >of taking it back, and hopefully they will swap it for a non-FFversion!

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> >PLEASE TRY AND HELP ME! Sorry for such a long message, but as you > >can see, > >I'm VERY angry at the moment! > > > >Fuming Mad Max (Andrew) > > > > > I've had the Thrustmaster Ferrari FF wheel for the past couple of

months > now, but can't say that I've ever noticed this deadzone problem. I > actually find it quite difficult to ensure that the car is going as > straight as I would like at times, especially under hard braking inGPL > when the car can suddenly veer off to the left or rightunexpectedly, > even though I'm keeping the wheel as centered as possible. I've hadto > use a linearity setting at about 2/3rds non-linear to compensate for > this. Is there a way of demonstrating this easily somewhere in thegame > to show what you are referring to? > -- > Peter Ives Suggest test for deadzone by making sure wheel and drivers arms are on, and in cockpit view. waggle the wheel to and fro past centre position. If there is a null deadzone spot, the on screen wheel will pause at that point. Cure using CTFJ from http://home.att.net/~stickworks/ -- Laurence Wilmer [email hidden] --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.256 / Virus Database: 129 - Release Date: 31/05/01

But the slow-down with GPL made it unacceptable. "Bart Westra" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3b232361$0$5738$[email hidden]... > > It needs at least 10 hours in operation to become smooth and stillimproves > after that. One should not judge it as it comes right out of the box. My > first impression of the wheel was a bit like "God what have I bought now" > (coming from ECCI CDS2R) but when it's rubbed in so to speak and get usedto > it, you have a great wheel for a very reasonable price. > > Bart Westra > >

On Sun, 10 Jun 2001 11:58:09 GMT, "Simon Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote: >But the slow-down with GPL made it unacceptable. I was concerned about problems I had read about slow down and the MSFF wheel, but I took a chance and bought one anyway. Well, I don't get any slow down in GPL or any other game that I have noticed. On this wheel you can turn FF off with a button on the wheel and turning it off and on makes no dif to the frame rate that I can discern. GPL is max frame rate at all times with a full field. Could it be because I have an AMD 1.33c cpu or could this problem maybe be on just certain motherboards? I have a FIC-AD11 mb (AMD 760 chipset).

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> >"Peter Ives" <[email hidden]> wrote in >message >news:[email hidden]... >> In article <[email hidden]>, MAD MAX ><[email hidden]> >> writes >> >Hi Group, >> > >> <snip> >> >> >The >> >fastest I have gone at Monza with this Ferrari FF is a lousy >1:33:55 (lotus) >> >last night, and I don't know where that came from with the wheel >the way it >> >is with this silly deadzone :( If there is NO cure for this, I am >thinking >> >of taking it back, and hopefully they will swap it for a non-FF >version! >> >PLEASE TRY AND HELP ME! Sorry for such a long message, but as >you >> >can see, >> >I'm VERY angry at the moment! >> > >> >Fuming Mad Max (Andrew) >> > >> > >> I've had the Thrustmaster Ferrari FF wheel for the past couple of >months >> now, but can't say that I've ever noticed this deadzone problem. I >> actually find it quite difficult to ensure that the car is going as >> straight as I would like at times, especially under hard braking in >GPL >> when the car can suddenly veer off to the left or right >unexpectedly, >> even though I'm keeping the wheel as centered as possible. I've had >to >> use a linearity setting at about 2/3rds non-linear to compensate for >> this. Is there a way of demonstrating this easily somewhere in the >game >> to show what you are referring to? >> -- >> Peter Ives > >Suggest test for deadzone by making sure wheel and drivers arms are >on, and in cockpit view. waggle the wheel to and fro past centre >position. If there is a null deadzone spot, the on screen wheel will >pause at that point. >Cure using CTFJ from http://home.att.net/~stickworks/ >

Cheers Laurence. -- Peter Ives Remove ALL_STRESS before replying If you know what's good for you, don't listen to me GPLRank Joystick -50.63 Wheel -14.08

Yes... "Peter Ives"wrote: | Is there a way of demonstrating this easily somewhere in the game | to show what you are referring to? --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.259 / Virus Database: 130 - Release Date: 6/5/2001

Exactly!!! "Laurence Wilmer" wrote: | Suggest test for deadzone by making sure wheel and drivers arms are | on, and in cockpit view. waggle the wheel to and fro past centre | position. If there is a null deadzone spot, the on screen wheel will | pause at that point. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.259 / Virus Database: 130 - Release Date: 6/5/2001

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> On Sun, 10 Jun 2001 11:58:09 GMT, "Simon Brown" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >But the slow-down with GPL made it unacceptable. > > I was concerned about problems I had read about slow down and the MSFF > wheel, but I took a chance and bought one anyway. Well, I don't get > any slow down in GPL or any other game that I have noticed. On this > wheel you can turn FF off with a button on the wheel and turning it > off and on makes no dif to the frame rate that I can discern. GPL is > max frame rate at all times with a full field. Could it be because I > have an AMD 1.33c cpu or could this problem maybe be on just certain > motherboards? I have a FIC-AD11 mb (AMD 760 chipset).

You have plenty cpu to satisfy the wheel. For me it was noticable on a Celeron 300 @ 450 (remember those? ;), but not anymore on the Athlon 800 I have now. Must say this is with the game port version of the MSFF. From what I have read here, the USB version will use more cpu cycles for the FF effects than the game port version. Bart Westra

This was on a P3-450 at the time. I also got the same thing on a second PC, and then when PC World tested it in the shop they got the same thing as well. The slow down was only apparent really at race starts with full grid. It cost about 30% frame-rate, which was totally unacceptable. Also happened in Sports Car GT. Like you say, on an Athlon 1.3 the CPU has cycles spare after GPL has done so it doesn't show I guess. "#141520" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Sun, 10 Jun 2001 11:58:09 GMT, "Simon Brown" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >But the slow-down with GPL made it unacceptable. > > I was concerned about problems I had read about slow down and the MSFF > wheel, but I took a chance and bought one anyway. Well, I don't get > any slow down in GPL or any other game that I have noticed. On this > wheel you can turn FF off with a button on the wheel and turning it > off and on makes no dif to the frame rate that I can discern. GPL is > max frame rate at all times with a full field. Could it be because I > have an AMD 1.33c cpu or could this problem maybe be on just certain > motherboards? I have a FIC-AD11 mb (AMD 760 chipset).