Gunslinger would you please tell us what you really feel?
Dont be so wishy-washy will ya??.. :-)
"Gunslinger" wrote:
| The HELL I say with NASCAR 4.
P.S. Anyone have an Athlon 1.333 266 FSB system I could "borrow"?
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I don't get it. I have a PCeleron 700, 128MB RAM and a Voodoo3/3000, and I
can run 43 cars in chase view crystal clear. I don't use cockpit, so I guess
that's the difference, but I think N4 is better than N3 seeing I'm used to
the physics now...
Go N4!
Nascar 4 didn't run on my P3/550 but now it runs just fine on my 1ghz Athlon
T-Bird
"Gunslinger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I hate to say it, but NASCAR 3.
I have fiddled, tweaked, downloaded, re-installed, bought new
hardware, and prayed to a golden monkey and I HAVE HAD IT with NASCAR
4.
I have a P3 650, 196 Meg Ram, TNT2 Ultra , and can not run the damn
thing with 43 cars and get above 20 FPS when in the cockpit view.
Come on, Im computer savvy, I've been using them since the TRS-80 CoCo
days damn it.
My computer is not that old that it should be a dinosaur that fast for
God's sake.
Anyway, after 3 weeks of of a major headache of trying to get N4 to
run smoothly I said the hell with it.
I reinstalled Nascar3 last night and wondered what the hell the big
fuss is over N4 anyway.
N3 runs smooth as glass, everything maxed, 1024x768, full field.
The racing is good (no irrating hard left pull) , the Force feedback
works great so damn it... The HELL I say with NASCAR 4.
P.S. Anyone have an Athlon 1.333 266 FSB system I could "borrow"?
>I don't get it. I have a PCeleron 700, 128MB RAM and a Voodoo3/3000, and I
>can run 43 cars in chase view crystal clear. I don't use cockpit, so I guess
>that's the difference, but I think N4 is better than N3 seeing I'm used to
>the physics now...
I've never had much of a problem either. When I heard that N4 was going to
need a little horsepower under the hood I saved and bought an Athlon 900 with
a GeForce2 card. I've since added more memory bringing it up to 512 megs. I
enjoy 45-50 fps in 35-40 car races and I use cockpit view. I have no
complaints with the game now except for the wreckers. Oh, and I connect using
DSL.
The only problem I had when buying the computer is that I didn't know what I
wanted for sound so I just went with the onboard sound until I could decide.
That made N4 unbearable. Graphics were great but the sound was awful.
Sounded like my car and all the other cars were powered by Norelco razor
motors. Then, $350 later I had a SoundBlaster Live Platinum 5.1 and a
Cambridge Soundworks 5.1 speaker system. First time I fired up the game and
stepped on the gas I thought I was gonna piss my pants. ;o)
Dave Casey
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NASCAR 4 runs fine on my Pentium 2 350. Admittedly I have decreased graphic
detail and I only run with 20 AI.
Chris
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"RegularRacer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Nascar 4 didn't run on my P3/550 but now it runs just fine on my 1ghz
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> "Gunslinger" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> I hate to say it, but NASCAR 3.
> I have fiddled, tweaked, downloaded, re-installed, bought new
> hardware, and prayed to a golden monkey and I HAVE HAD IT with NASCAR
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> thing with 43 cars and get above 20 FPS when in the cockpit view.
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> days damn it.
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Eek. Doesn't N3 seem really cheesy physics-wise after N4?
I tried it briefly, but couldn't stand it.
I'd run less cars in N4 before going back.
On Sat, 09 Jun 2001 04:20:29 GMT, Gunslinger
<[email hidden]> wrote:
>I hate to say it, but NASCAR 3.
[snip]
Gunslingler,
In one word; physics.
I also went back to Nascar3 for a week or so, after the fustration
that Nascar 4 caused me. But after some reflection, it seemed to be exactly
the same fustration we all felt when we 1st tried GPL after years of
mastering the fine art of ICR2.
Nascar 4 is a real hog when it comes to computer power. All I can say
is to drop down the drawn cars to 24 or so in front and 4 to 6 in mirrors
and see what happens. I couldn't get it to run maxed out on a AMD K7-800
and I still can't maxed it out on a AMD 1.2 gig machine.
Joel Willstein
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Gunslinger <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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I hate to say it, but NASCAR 3.
I have fiddled, tweaked, downloaded, re-installed, bought new
hardware, and prayed to a golden monkey and I HAVE HAD IT with NASCAR
4.
I have a P3 650, 196 Meg Ram, TNT2 Ultra , and can not run the damn
thing with 43 cars and get above 20 FPS when in the cockpit view.
Come on, Im computer savvy, I've been using them since the TRS-80 CoCo
days damn it.
My computer is not that old that it should be a dinosaur that fast for
God's sake.
Anyway, after 3 weeks of of a major headache of trying to get N4 to
run smoothly I said the hell with it.
I reinstalled Nascar3 last night and wondered what the hell the big
fuss is over N4 anyway.
N3 runs smooth as glass, everything maxed, 1024x768, full field.
The racing is good (no irrating hard left pull) , the Force feedback
works great so damn it... The HELL I say with NASCAR 4.
P.S. Anyone have an Athlon 1.333 266 FSB system I could "borrow"?
Just a note. N4 runs fine (40-60 fps) on my P-3 600 but on my brothers p3-550
it wouldn't run for doo doo (18-25 fps). After much fiddling, it turns out his
THRUSTMASTER software, which runs behind the scene and which we figured HAD to
run, was hogging the processor. Turned it off and BANG! 40-60 fps. We knew
to turn off everthing else running in the background, but never figured the
wheel software was such a wheezer.
Michael Loos
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He's just whining because his system doesn't have the juevos to run run
the sim at an acceptable level of detail and perofrmance. So, instead
of blaming his hardware (he could probably upgrade his CPU to at least
an 850, and the TNT card is a true dinosaur), he blames the software.
<sarcasm>That's real productive...</sarcasm>
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> Gunslingler, > > In one word; physics. > > I also went back to Nascar3 for a week or so, after the fustration > that Nascar 4 caused me. But after some reflection, it seemed to be exactly > the same fustration we all felt when we 1st tried GPL after years of > mastering the fine art of ICR2. > > Nascar 4 is a real hog when it comes to computer power. All I can say > is to drop down the drawn cars to 24 or so in front and 4 to 6 in mirrors > and see what happens. I couldn't get it to run maxed out on a AMD K7-800 > and I still can't maxed it out on a AMD 1.2 gig machine. > > > Joel Willstein > [email hidden] > > > Gunslinger <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > I hate to say it, but NASCAR 3. > I have fiddled, tweaked, downloaded, re-installed, bought new > hardware, and prayed to a golden monkey and I HAVE HAD IT with NASCAR > 4. > > I have a P3 650, 196 Meg Ram, TNT2 Ultra , and can not run the damn > thing with 43 cars and get above 20 FPS when in the cockpit view. > > Come on, Im computer savvy, I've been using them since the TRS-80 CoCo > days damn it. > My computer is not that old that it should be a dinosaur that fast for > God's sake. > > Anyway, after 3 weeks of of a major headache of trying to get N4 to > run smoothly I said the hell with it. > > I reinstalled Nascar3 last night and wondered what the hell the big > fuss is over N4 anyway. > > N3 runs smooth as glass, everything maxed, 1024x768, full field. > The racing is good (no irrating hard left pull) , the Force feedback > works great so damn it... The HELL I say with NASCAR 4. > >
Tim O wrote:
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> Eek. Doesn't N3 seem really cheesy physics-wise after N4?
> I tried it briefly, but couldn't stand it.
> I'd run less cars in N4 before going back.
Same here. N3 feels awfully flat physics-wise now.
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The physics in N3 always felt kind of flat to me, N4 is truly a great sim
IMO and I don't even like NASCAR.
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"Uncle Fester" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Tim O wrote:
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> > Eek. Doesn't N3 seem really cheesy physics-wise after N4?
> > I tried it briefly, but couldn't stand it.
> > I'd run less cars in N4 before going back.
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> Same here. N3 feels awfully flat physics-wise now.
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> Fester
I couldnt stand N3 once GPL came out, that was over 3 years ago. N1,N2, N3
could make decent drag racing sims. :0
Charlie B
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> > Eek. Doesn't N3 seem really cheesy physics-wise after N4? > I tried it briefly, but couldn't stand it. > I'd run less cars in N4 before going back. > > On Sat, 09 Jun 2001 04:20:29 GMT, Gunslinger > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >I hate to say it, but NASCAR 3. > > [snip] uhhhh Charlie....N3 came out about 2-3 years AFTER GPL....just thought
you'd like to know :)
dave henrie
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> I couldnt stand N3 once GPL came out, that was over 3 years ago. N1,N2,N3
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> could make decent drag racing sims. :0 > > Charlie B > > Tim O <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > Eek. Doesn't N3 seem really cheesy physics-wise after N4? > > I tried it briefly, but couldn't stand it. > > I'd run less cars in N4 before going back. > > > > On Sat, 09 Jun 2001 04:20:29 GMT, Gunslinger > > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > > >I hate to say it, but NASCAR 3. > > > > [snip] > > Damn thanks for the info...I had to put my PIII 500 back in after I
toasted my AMD bios....so when I went back the fps didn't seem to be the
same...I had also gotten a TM wheel recently. I'll check that out.
dave henrie
"Race1530" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
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> Just a note. N4 runs fine (40-60 fps) on my P-3 600 but on my brothersp3-550
> it wouldn't run for doo doo (18-25 fps). After much fiddling, it turnsout his
> THRUSTMASTER software, which runs behind the scene and which we figuredHAD to
> run, was hogging the processor. Turned it off and BANG! 40-60 fps. Weknew
> to turn off everthing else running in the background, but never figuredthe
