WSC E3 movie !!

its 39MBs, is it worth the download,, ohhhhhh yessssss the track detail is amazing !!!!!! http://www.4gamer.net/img6/wsc_mv.mpg

On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 08:19:13 GMT, (Rich#8) wrote:

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> >its 39MBs, is it worth the download,, ohhhhhh yessssss > >the track detail is amazing !!!!!! > > > > > >http://www.4gamer.net/img6/wsc_mv.mpg

Is this the old movie at Monza? I believe WSC wasn't present at E3.. Andre

It definitely was Andre....my friend was there and saw it live. Ash | >http://www.4gamer.net/img6/wsc_mv.mpg | | Is this the old movie at Monza? I believe WSC wasn't present at E3.. | | Andre

On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:45:57 +0100, "Ashley McConnell" <[email hidden]> wrote: >It definitely was Andre....my friend was there and saw it live. > >Ash Oh?? I really read Empire cancelled their visit to E3.. Cool, downloading the movie right now then :) Andre

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>| >http://www.4gamer.net/img6/wsc_mv.mpg >| >| Is this the old movie at Monza? I believe WSC wasn't present at E3.. >| >| Andre > >

Whether they were or not, it's not the old Monza demo but Brands Hatch. Cars and track look pretty damn good. Some spins/armco slaps but no skidmarks or visual damage. To bad it's videotaped off a monitor so it does flicker quite badly. Jan. =--- "Pay attention when I'm talking to you boy!" -Foghorn Leghorn. Andre Warringa wrote... > <snip> > Is this the old movie at Monza? I believe WSC wasn't present > at E3.. > > Andre

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> On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:45:57 +0100, "Ashley McConnell" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >It definitely was Andre....my friend was there and saw it live. > > > >Ash > > Oh?? I really read Empire cancelled their visit to E3..

You're not alone- I'd heard the same thing about Empire not showing for E3. Glad to see the video, though. :-)

From what I understand, they were there - in a hotel room doing lan racing with Derek Bell and several others. Would have been a blast to be there for that! David Cook "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 09:45:57 +0100, "Ashley McConnell" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >It definitely was Andre....my friend was there and saw it live. > > > >Ash > > Oh?? I really read Empire cancelled their visit to E3.. > Cool, downloading the movie right now then :) > > Andre > > >| >http://www.4gamer.net/img6/wsc_mv.mpg > >| > >| Is this the old movie at Monza? I believe WSC wasn't present at E3.. > >| > >| Andre > > > > >

In a way I wish I hadn't downlaoded it. It looks so breath-taking it just raises expectations further. So we'll never be satisfied until we get the demo, then the full version, then the patch, then the update, etc.. No wonder the West's are so stressed. But I was really hoping to see in-car footage. Even so, all I can say is.... breath taking! Looks like I'll need to start saving for that Gf3 and new monitor sooner rather than later! Cheers, Andy aka florist Jan Verschueren wrote:

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> > Whether they were or not, it's not the old Monza demo but Brands Hatch. Cars > and track look pretty damn good. Some spins/armco slaps but no skidmarks or > visual damage. > > To bad it's videotaped off a monitor so it does flicker quite badly. > > Jan. > =--- > "Pay attention when I'm talking to you boy!" -Foghorn Leghorn. > > Andre Warringa wrote... > > <snip> > > Is this the old movie at Monza? I believe WSC wasn't present > > at E3.. > > > > Andre

In article <[email hidden]>, "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> writes: >Whether they were or not, it's not the old Monza demo but Brands Hatch. Cars >and track look pretty damn good. Some spins/armco slaps but no skidmarks or >visual damage. Thank you! I couldn't recognize the track...<g> Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +20.90...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

<Rich#8> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > its 39MBs, is it worth the download,, ohhhhhh yessssss > > the track detail is amazing !!!!!! > Oh sure, when I first opened it up and started playing it I thought it might turn out to be a bit of alright, but then turned disapointed. I wanted to see the McLaren on the menu screen run. Other that THAT the play was pretty good - Mrs. A. Lincoln. KFG

Kevin Gavitt wrote: > Other that THAT the play was pretty good - Mrs. A. Lincoln. > You're killin' me! -- Fester

What I found really cool was that it appears that you can race the tracks at various times, from morning (see the fog still hanging around) then evening ( lighting looks like the sun setting) The first shot looks like the NSX is racing during mid day, the second shot with the Mclaren looks like morning with the fog, the third shot (don't know the car) looks like evening with sun setting. On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 16:47:46 GMT, Uncle Fester <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> >Kevin Gavitt wrote: > >> Other that THAT the play was pretty good - Mrs. A. Lincoln. >> > > >You're killin' me! > >-- > >Fester

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> What I found really cool was that it appears that you can race the > tracks at various times, from morning (see the fog still hanging > around) then evening ( lighting looks like the sun setting) > > The first shot looks like the NSX is racing during mid day, the second > shot with the Mclaren looks like morning with the fog, the third shot > (don't know the car) looks like evening with sun setting. > >

The second car is a WSC Panoz, the third is a GTP Mazda that won LeMans. KFG

Oops,, thanx dude !!! haha On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 18:55:37 GMT, "Kevin Gavitt" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> ><Rich#8> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... >> What I found really cool was that it appears that you can race the >> tracks at various times, from morning (see the fog still hanging >> around) then evening ( lighting looks like the sun setting) >> >> The first shot looks like the NSX is racing during mid day, the second >> shot with the Mclaren looks like morning with the fog, the third shot >> (don't know the car) looks like evening with sun setting. >> >> > >The second car is a WSC Panoz, the third is a GTP Mazda that won LeMans. > >KFG > >

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> > <Rich#8> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > What I found really cool was that it appears that you can race the > > tracks at various times, from morning (see the fog still hanging > > around) then evening ( lighting looks like the sun setting) > > > > The first shot looks like the NSX is racing during mid day, the second > > shot with the Mclaren looks like morning with the fog, the third shot > > (don't know the car) looks like evening with sun setting. > > > > > > The second car is a WSC Panoz, the third is a GTP Mazda that won LeMans. > > KFG > >

The third is a Group C Mercedes isn't it? looks very nice too :) Alex

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> > "Kevin Gavitt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:JGOV6.26869$[email hidden]... > > > > <Rich#8> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > > What I found really cool was that it appears that you can race the > > > tracks at various times, from morning (see the fog still hanging > > > around) then evening ( lighting looks like the sun setting) > > > > > > The first shot looks like the NSX is racing during mid day, the second > > > shot with the Mclaren looks like morning with the fog, the third shot > > > (don't know the car) looks like evening with sun setting. > > > > > > > > > > The second car is a WSC Panoz, the third is a GTP Mazda that won LeMans. > > > > KFG > > > > > The third is a Group C Mercedes isn't it? > > looks very nice too :) > > Alex >

Ummmm, why yes, it is. : ) You have to admit that it looks DAMN like the Mazda though. KFG

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Is it just me or does it look like the cars are moving pretty slow? I am sure you will get a better feeling inside the car, but from the replay (TV) view, they look like they are driving slow. <Rich#8> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > its 39MBs, is it worth the download,, ohhhhhh yessssss > > the track detail is amazing !!!!!! > > > > > > http://www.4gamer.net/img6/wsc_mv.mpg

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"Cliff Roman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:czSV6.48225$[email hidden]... > Is it just me or does it look like the cars are moving pretty slow? > > I am sure you will get a better feeling inside the car, but from thereplay > (TV) view, they look like they are driving slow. > > And don't the cars often look like they're driving slow when you watch them on TV? KFG

On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 23:20:40 GMT, "Cliff Roman" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Is it just me or does it look like the cars are moving pretty slow? > >I am sure you will get a better feeling inside the car, but from the replay >(TV) view, they look like they are driving slow. I didn't have this feeling Cliff.. to me the speed seemed very natural, and I found the movie VERY impressive. I wasn't too impressed with the screenshots released a couple of weeks ago, but this movie turned me too into a WSC believer.. :) I had problems with the feeling of speed in Nascar 4 and had a discussion here about it. From then on I started to focus more on the feeling of speed in a real car. And yes, if you only look to the objects outside and eliminate the feeling of speed you have because of the movement you make, it DOES look very slow.. Feeling of speed is very hard to simulate on a computer I think. Maybe things have to move a tad faster on a pc to give the same sense of speed as we have in real life.. Andre

I think it might be to do with peripheral vision, perhaps this is why F355 with 3 screens feels much more intense than the 1 screen version in the arcade. Ash | Feeling of speed is very hard to simulate on a computer I think. Maybe | things have to move a tad faster on a pc to give the same sense of | speed as we have in real life.. | | Andre

Not to me.. "Kevin Gavitt" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:wjWV6.27405$[email hidden]...

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> > "Cliff Roman" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:czSV6.48225$[email hidden]... > > Is it just me or does it look like the cars are moving pretty slow? > > > > I am sure you will get a better feeling inside the car, but from the > replay > > (TV) view, they look like they are driving slow. > > > > > > And don't the cars often look like they're driving slow when you watch

them > on TV? > > KFG > >

I think it is due to the fact there is no sound in that movie.. Maybe that is just throwing my senses off a little bit "Andre Warringa" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > On Wed, 13 Jun 2001 23:20:40 GMT, "Cliff Roman" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >Is it just me or does it look like the cars are moving pretty slow? > > > >I am sure you will get a better feeling inside the car, but from thereplay

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> >(TV) view, they look like they are driving slow. > > I didn't have this feeling Cliff.. to me the speed seemed very > natural, and I found the movie VERY impressive. > I wasn't too impressed with the screenshots released a couple of weeks > ago, but this movie turned me too into a WSC believer.. :) > > I had problems with the feeling of speed in Nascar 4 and had a > discussion here about it. From then on I started to focus more on the > feeling of speed in a real car. And yes, if you only look to the > objects outside and eliminate the feeling of speed you have because of > the movement you make, it DOES look very slow.. > Feeling of speed is very hard to simulate on a computer I think. Maybe > things have to move a tad faster on a pc to give the same sense of > speed as we have in real life.. > > Andre

Wot no tyre smoke?? <Rich#8> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> > its 39MBs, is it worth the download,, ohhhhhh yessssss > > the track detail is amazing !!!!!! > > > > > > http://www.4gamer.net/img6/wsc_mv.mpg

Cliff Roman wrote: > Is it just me or does it look like the cars are moving pretty slow? > > I am sure you will get a better feeling inside the car, but from the replay > (TV) view, they look like they are driving slow. The cars are moving slow, that's for sure. But that has more to do with the testdriver than with the sense of speed in WSC, in my opinion. You can clearly see at some points that the person who drove the cars was not pushing them at all. -- Imar de Vries - [email hidden] - ICQ 6972439

GT3 looks tip top, but with a max of only 6 cars (and no incar view) it better look good!!! Yup I noticed the redraw in the background as well (way in the background) since its far behind the car it did'nt bother me much, what was even more bothersome (atleast to me) was the clipping of the car shadow into the pavement. But alas I realize what we are seeing is an unfinished product. GT3 blows GPL out of the universe in the visual department, (this all men know) but when it comes to simulating real world physics GT3 is just a dumb blonde !! LOL You must ask yourself, do you want short term or long term gratification? Sure GT3 looks good but will you be playing it in 3 years? The best sim to ever come out on a console was Ferrari F355 on the DreamCast, eye popping graphics with GPL physics, the arcade version of this game with 3 monitors is amazing, if you haven' played this sim yet,, check it out !!! Though once complete I firmly believe that WSC will rival GT3 in the graphics department and have better AI and of course there is no need to discuss physics ;-) On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 19:08:52 -0700, Someotherdude<[email hidden]> wrote:

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>(Rich#8) wrote: > >>its 39MBs, is it worth the download,, ohhhhhh yessssss >> >>the track detail is amazing !!!!!! >> >> >>http://www.4gamer.net/img6/wsc_mv.mpg > > > > >Something disturbing about the graphics -- you can see the distant objects >being drawn or removed, depending if you are approaching or going away from >them, kinda similar to Colin McRae Rally ( one ) but not as severe -- not what >I expected from a brand new game engine. > >I thought the Gran Turismo 3 movies were much more impressive, the environment >looked much more realistic: >http://firingsquad.gamers.com/games/gt3/gallery2.asp > >It may not be a sim, but looks like fun. > >

In article <[email hidden]>, Rich#8 wrote: <snip> > > The best sim to ever come out on a console was Ferrari F355 on the > DreamCast, eye popping graphics with GPL physics, the arcade version > of this game with 3 monitors is amazing, if you haven' played this sim > yet,, check it out !!! > Rich#8 Did F355 for Dreamcast have a cockpit view, or a hood view? (I like both) I hate bumpercam, which is why I don't like the GTurismo games. Tim

Imar de Vries <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > The cars are moving slow, that's for sure. But that has more to do withthe > testdriver than with the sense of speed in WSC, in my opinion. You canclearly > see at some points that the person who drove the cars was not pushing themat > all. > -- > Imar de Vries - [email hidden] - ICQ 6972439 Hey! Hey! "I" was NOT driving!!!! dave henrie

You'e getting paranoid about your driving Dave. Jan. =--- Dave Henrie wrote... > <snip> > Hey! Hey! "I" was NOT driving!!!! > dave henrie > >

Hood view with gauges, the full version in the aracade has cockpit view On Fri, 15 Jun 2001 18:15:58 -0400, Tim <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>In article <[email hidden]>, Rich#8 wrote: > ><snip> >> >> The best sim to ever come out on a console was Ferrari F355 on the >> DreamCast, eye popping graphics with GPL physics, the arcade version >> of this game with 3 monitors is amazing, if you haven' played this sim >> yet,, check it out !!! >> > >Rich#8 > >Did F355 for Dreamcast have a cockpit view, or a hood view? >(I like both) >I hate bumpercam, which is why I don't like the GTurismo games. > >Tim

I thought Superbike 2001 and F355 Challenge had amazingly detailed tracks, but they don't compare to how WSC is looking. I've never seen so much modelling of track side objects, hills, trees, fences etc. The view of the back of the pit buildings from the straight behind them is awesome to see. Also looks like they've modelled every little bump on the track surface. The quality of the textures is also looking a notch above everything else I've seen. For instance, the way the grass joins the track. The grass doesn't stop, it wears thin as it nears the track edge. Little touches like this, which are everywhere in the video, add that little bit extra to visual realism. The cars look gorgeous, and they certainly move how they should. Can't wait to see this baby running on my own PC :) "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <[email hidden]>, "Jan Verschueren" > <[email hidden]> writes: > > >Whether they were or not, it's not the old Monza demo but Brands Hatch.Cars > >and track look pretty damn good. Some spins/armco slaps but no skidmarksor

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> >visual damage. > > Thank you! I couldn't recognize the track...<g> > > Eldred > -- > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > F1 hcp. +20.90...F2 +151.26... > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

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