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GPL' Lets get those frame rates up !!!

13 posts by 10 people · 14 Jun 2001 20:01 UTC - 19 Jun 2001 10:20 UTC

John G 14 Jun 2001 20:01 UTC#178878
I want to start a string looking for the magic to find the last few frame rate improvements. Please ignore everything below.(unless you are really bored) I spent way too much time last night working on this to let it go. Below are the specs for my setup and it seems to be pretty good. Detail Bias is at abut 50% thats what I would like to get up. In 11th place on the grid at SPA of 19 cars I get 27/29 fps. 35/36 fps by turn one. Using the New DirectX 7 Direct3D Rasterizer for Grand Prix Legends Here's the url: www.papy.com/downloads/gpl_d3d.exe With these settings: [ Direct3D7 ] D3DDevice = 0 ;0 TossHighestMip = 0 ;0 DoubleMirrorResWidth = 0 ;1 DoubleMirrorResHeight = 0 ;1 DirectMirrorRendering = 0 ;1 DisableZBuffer = 0 ;0 AlphaThreshold = 1 ;1 TransparentMipsDrawOrder = 1 ;1 TrilinearFiltering = 1 ;1 AnisotropicFiltering = 16 ;14 wrong LODBias = -50 ;-75 On this system: Using Win 2k / 500Mhz Cpu / Matrox G400 196 Mb ram. DirectX 7.
How much do you care about sounds? How few sounds can you live with? I have the number of sounds set to 4 in the GPL settings window. A guaranteed fps increase is also found by decreasing the soundquality in the app.ini. Try soundquality=0 in the app.ini inside the gpl folder, if your ears can stand it, your eyes will love it!! Lol SpeedFreek
Sounds, Thats good. I go for three to six sounds. but it sure sounds good with more. I'll check sound quality. Also, does a quality sound card (Sound Blaster Live Value) really help FPS. If I can't bump up the number of sounds with it then I use the old card. Just Brainstorming this one. John G SpeedFreek wrote in message <9gbagu$89v6n$[email hidden]>...
Quoted text (11 lines)>How much do you care about sounds? >How few sounds can you live with? I have the number of sounds set to 4 in >the GPL settings window. >A guaranteed fps increase is also found by decreasing the soundquality in >the app.ini. >Try soundquality=0 in the app.ini inside the gpl folder, if your ears can >stand it, your eyes will love it!! > >Lol SpeedFreek > >
"John G" <typejATearthlink.net (Make AT @ to reply)> wrote in message news:tK8W6.4697$[email hidden]... > I want to start a string looking for the magic to find the last fewframe
Quoted text (35 lines)> rate improvements. > Please ignore everything below.(unless you are really bored) > > > I spent way too much time last night working on this to let it go. > Below are the specs for my setup and it seems to be pretty good. > > Detail Bias is at abut 50% thats what I would like to get up. > > In 11th place on the grid at SPA of 19 cars I get 27/29 fps. > 35/36 fps by turn one. > > Using the New > DirectX 7 Direct3D Rasterizer for Grand Prix Legends > Here's the url: www.papy.com/downloads/gpl_d3d.exe > > With these settings: > > [ Direct3D7 ] > D3DDevice = 0 ;0 > TossHighestMip = 0 ;0 > DoubleMirrorResWidth = 0 ;1 > DoubleMirrorResHeight = 0 ;1 > DirectMirrorRendering = 0 ;1 > DisableZBuffer = 0 ;0 > AlphaThreshold = 1 ;1 > TransparentMipsDrawOrder = 1 ;1 > TrilinearFiltering = 1 ;1 > AnisotropicFiltering = 16 ;14 wrong > LODBias = -50 ;-75 > > On this system: > Using Win 2k / 500Mhz Cpu / Matrox G400 > 196 Mb ram. DirectX 7. >
That's odd. I tried the new D3D patch on my G400 with the default core.ini suggested for it (which seems identical to what you have posted), and the 27/29fps I used have on Spa grid dropped to 15/17. Considered that undriveable and went straight back to the original D3D. I just thought, well, they never mentioned the G400 in the readme for this patch - what gives? (PIII 550 on Asus P3B-F, 256Meg RAM). -- Laurence Wilmer [email hidden] --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.256 / Virus Database: 129 - Release Date: 31/05/01
Hi John, Try setting: AnisotropicFiltering = 0 Also, if you have the filters enabled in core.ini and in your tweak-program/driver (whatever it is for your card) you may be forcing the card to do the same job twice! Some cards (eg. mine) have settings that force the card to use them regardless whether the game has that setting or not. /Jens John G wrote:
Quoted text (35 lines)> I want to start a string looking for the magic to find the last few frame > rate improvements. > Please ignore everything below.(unless you are really bored) > > > I spent way too much time last night working on this to let it go. > Below are the specs for my setup and it seems to be pretty good. > > Detail Bias is at abut 50% thats what I would like to get up. > > In 11th place on the grid at SPA of 19 cars I get 27/29 fps. > 35/36 fps by turn one. > > Using the New > DirectX 7 Direct3D Rasterizer for Grand Prix Legends > Here's the url: www.papy.com/downloads/gpl_d3d.exe > > With these settings: > > [ Direct3D7 ] > D3DDevice = 0 ;0 > TossHighestMip = 0 ;0 > DoubleMirrorResWidth = 0 ;1 > DoubleMirrorResHeight = 0 ;1 > DirectMirrorRendering = 0 ;1 > DisableZBuffer = 0 ;0 > AlphaThreshold = 1 ;1 > TransparentMipsDrawOrder = 1 ;1 > TrilinearFiltering = 1 ;1 > AnisotropicFiltering = 16 ;14 wrong > LODBias = -50 ;-75 > > On this system: > Using Win 2k / 500Mhz Cpu / Matrox G400 > 196 Mb ram. DirectX 7.
"John G" <typejATearthlink.net (Make AT @ to reply)> wrote in message news:TtaW6.4948$[email hidden]... > Sounds, > Thats good. I go for three to six sounds. but it sure sounds good withmore. > > I'll check sound quality. > > Also, does a quality sound card (Sound Blaster Live Value) really helpFPS. > If I can't bump up the number of sounds with it then I use the old card. > > Just Brainstorming this one. > John G A modern high quality sound card should cause very very little framerate hit. Jerry Morelock
No disrespect intended, but can some of the graphics gurus confirm this?? It sounds unlikely to me, but my card is one with those options, so... Marc "Jens H. Kruuse" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (13 lines)> Hi John, > > Try setting: > AnisotropicFiltering = 0 > > Also, if you have the filters enabled in core.ini and in your > tweak-program/driver (whatever it is for your card) you may be forcing > the card to do the same job twice! Some cards (eg. mine) have settings > that force the card to use them regardless whether the game has that > setting or not. > > /Jens >
An SBlive will definitely make a big difference. It allows multiple sounds to be played simultaneously, as well as putting virtually no load on the cpu. Well worth it, but there are plenty of other soundcards available as well. What card do you have at the moment? On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 22:00:19 GMT, "John G" <typejATearthlink.net (Make AT @ to reply)> wrote:
Quoted text (24 lines)>Sounds, >Thats good. I go for three to six sounds. but it sure sounds good with more. > >I'll check sound quality. > >Also, does a quality sound card (Sound Blaster Live Value) really help FPS. >If I can't bump up the number of sounds with it then I use the old card. > >Just Brainstorming this one. >John G > >SpeedFreek wrote in message <9gbagu$89v6n$[email hidden]>... >>How much do you care about sounds? >>How few sounds can you live with? I have the number of sounds set to 4 in >>the GPL settings window. >>A guaranteed fps increase is also found by decreasing the soundquality in >>the app.ini. >>Try soundquality=0 in the app.ini inside the gpl folder, if your ears can >>stand it, your eyes will love it!! >> >>Lol SpeedFreek >> >> >
El Cheapo, Aureal Vortex with soundblaster emulation. Never been too happy with this card. $55 or so for a soundblaster live. But hard to find. How about the many other soundblaster cards? -- John G "Rafe McAuliffe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > An SBlive will definitely make a big difference. It allows multiple > sounds to be played simultaneously, as well as putting virtually no > load on the cpu. Well worth it, but there are plenty of other > soundcards available as well. What card do you have at the moment? > > > On Thu, 14 Jun 2001 22:00:19 GMT, "John G" <typejATearthlink.net (Make > AT @ to reply)> wrote: > > >Sounds, > >Thats good. I go for three to six sounds. but it sure sounds good with more. > > > >I'll check sound quality. > > > >Also, does a quality sound card (Sound Blaster Live Value) really help FPS. > >If I can't bump up the number of sounds with it then I use the old card. > > > >Just Brainstorming this one. > >John G > > > >SpeedFreek wrote in message <9gbagu$89v6n$[email hidden]>... > >>How much do you care about sounds? > >>How few sounds can you live with? I have the number of sounds set to 4 in > >>the GPL settings window. > >>A guaranteed fps increase is also found by decreasing the soundquality in > >>the app.ini. > >>Try soundquality=0 in the app.ini inside the gpl folder, if your ears can > >>stand it, your eyes will love it!! > >> > >>Lol SpeedFreek > >> > >> > > > >
Well, the sblive value is what I use myself, and it works pretty well for me. US$55 sounds alright to me although I'm from Australia and don't know US prices well. The only other brand I'd recommend is Guillemott, which is very well regarded. DON'T get an sb 128 or any of the other ones they make. They're not much better than what you've already got. The platinum is best, but US$250-300 I believe. Not worth it unless you're gonna use the features (which I wouldn't) On Sun, 17 Jun 2001 10:21:09 GMT, "John G" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (7 lines)>El Cheapo, >Aureal Vortex with soundblaster emulation. > >Never been too happy with this card. > >$55 or so for a soundblaster live. But hard to find. >How about the many other soundblaster cards?
[email hidden] (Rafe McAuliffe) writes: > Well, the sblive value is what I use myself, and it works pretty well > for me. just a question; I know there are a bunch of different SB Live-types around (value, gold, gamer and all that), but they're all the same card, right? only software and accessories (like front panel connectors) differ? -- Gunnar #31 SUCKS#015 Tupperware MC#002 DoD#0x1B DoDRT#003 DoD:CT#4,8 Kibo�: 2 myk, trygg og god.
Same basic card, just additional features, wave processing stuff, dolby 5.1, optical links, remote control, etc. But the value is all you need for good gaming. They all use the same chip. On Mon, 18 Jun 2001 07:23:51 GMT, Gunnar Horrigmo <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (9 lines)>[email hidden] (Rafe McAuliffe) writes: > >> Well, the sblive value is what I use myself, and it works pretty well >> for me. > >just a question; I know there are a bunch of different SB Live-types >around (value, gold, gamer and all that), but they're all the same >card, right? only software and accessories (like front panel >connectors) differ?

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