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(long) GPL: new *fast* PC, a few minor problems

15 posts by 10 people · 14 Jun 2001 21:46 UTC - 18 Jun 2001 16:08 UTC

Rob Adams 14 Jun 2001 21:46 UTC#178810
I recently picked up my shiny new PC (specs below) and GPL runs great on it. As usual with new hardware though, I'm experiencing a few minor irritations. I'm hoping some of you hardware gurus have some suggestions: mainboard: ASUS A7M266, BIOS revision 1003 (flashed from 1002 last night) CPU: AMD Athlon 1.333 GHz RAM: 256 MB Crucial DDR (PC1600) Vid: 64MB Hercules Prophet Ultra II Sound: Diamond Monster MX-300 HD: Maxtor 40.0GB 7200RPM UDMA 100 sound card driver: latest reference Vortex 2 driver ver 2041 plus A3D drivers 2.12 vid card driver: nVidia driver 12.41 GPL 1.2 with the newest D3D patch and disco fix. No other patches (carsound, etc.). I am using a Lotus sound from Alison's site, and an updated dash, but no other graphics updates Here are the problems: 1. Sound pops and crackles significantly in GPL. I got a bit of this with my previous PC (PII 333, Voodoo 3) but not enough to annoy. -->I have visited the GeForce FAQ site and followed most of their suggestions, nothing helped. (The suggestions I didn't follow dealt with BIOS changes that didn't relate to my BIOS or I couldn't find them if they did). 2. Menu flickers in GPL when coming off the track. -->I have seen this mentioned in other posts and the solution was always "use older drivers or live with it". I can live with it unless there is an easy solution. It happens maybe 40% of the time, and hitting Esc twice makes it go away (GPL displays the "leave session" dialog box which clears up the display). 3. (For the real hw gurus): the mainboard comes with an integrated "CMedia" sound chip, which I have turned off in the BIOS settings. However, Win98 keeps detecting a "PCI Multimedia Audio Device" and can't find drivers. If I delete it from Device Manager it just comes back. I'd like to make it go away cuz it bugs me. -->I flashed the BIOS (on the vendor's suggestion) in an attempt to get my BIOS setup screen to resemble the one in the BIOS manual, but it still doesn't. I'm thinking this is a bad thing, but the PC seems to be working fine. 4. I applied the "coolbits" Reg patch in an effort to get the overclocking and vsync tabs in the nVidia control panel but it didn't work for the 12.41 drivers. I don't want to overclock (yet) but I'd like to see what else I can fiddle with. Anybody been able to get this to work with these drivers? Thanks in advance Rob
Rob Adams wrote...
Quoted text (8 lines)> 2. Menu flickers in GPL when coming off the track. > > -->I have seen this mentioned in other posts and the > solution was always "use older drivers or live with it". > I can live with it unless there is an easy solution. It > happens maybe 40% of the time, and hitting Esc twice makes > it go away (GPL displays the "leave session" dialog box > which clears up the display).
Perhaps easier to press the "save replay" icon and then cancel the save... that cures it on the rare occasions it happens with V3 and Glide Wrapper. Jan. =---
On my new pc (KT133A chipset), there are two places in the BIOS where you have to diasable the onboard sound: Advanced Chipset Features -> OnChip Sound and Integrated Peripherials -> Onboard Legacy Audio. Hope this helps. /Jens Rob Adams wrote:
Quoted text (55 lines)> I recently picked up my shiny new PC (specs below) and GPL runs great on it. > As usual with new hardware though, I'm experiencing a few minor irritations. > I'm hoping some of you hardware gurus have some suggestions: > > mainboard: ASUS A7M266, BIOS revision 1003 (flashed from 1002 last night) > CPU: AMD Athlon 1.333 GHz > RAM: 256 MB Crucial DDR (PC1600) > Vid: 64MB Hercules Prophet Ultra II > Sound: Diamond Monster MX-300 > HD: Maxtor 40.0GB 7200RPM UDMA 100 > > sound card driver: latest reference Vortex 2 driver ver 2041 plus A3D > drivers 2.12 > vid card driver: nVidia driver 12.41 > > GPL 1.2 with the newest D3D patch and disco fix. No other patches (carsound, > etc.). I am using a Lotus sound from Alison's site, and an updated dash, but > no other graphics updates > > Here are the problems: > 1. Sound pops and crackles significantly in GPL. I got a bit of this with my > previous PC (PII 333, Voodoo 3) but not enough to annoy. > > -->I have visited the GeForce FAQ site and followed most of their > suggestions, nothing helped. (The suggestions I didn't follow dealt with > BIOS changes that didn't relate to my BIOS or I couldn't find them if they > did). > > 2. Menu flickers in GPL when coming off the track. > > -->I have seen this mentioned in other posts and the solution was always > "use older drivers or live with it". I can live with it unless there is an > easy solution. It happens maybe 40% of the time, and hitting Esc twice makes > it go away (GPL displays the "leave session" dialog box which clears up the > display). > > 3. (For the real hw gurus): the mainboard comes with an integrated "CMedia" > sound chip, which I have turned off in the BIOS settings. However, Win98 > keeps detecting a "PCI Multimedia Audio Device" and can't find drivers. If I > delete it from Device Manager it just comes back. I'd like to make it go > away cuz it bugs me. > > -->I flashed the BIOS (on the vendor's suggestion) in an attempt to get my > BIOS setup screen to resemble the one in the BIOS manual, but it still > doesn't. I'm thinking this is a bad thing, but the PC seems to be working > fine. > > 4. I applied the "coolbits" Reg patch in an effort to get the overclocking > and vsync tabs in the nVidia control panel but it didn't work for the 12.41 > drivers. I don't want to overclock (yet) but I'd like to see what else I can > fiddle with. Anybody been able to get this to work with these drivers? > > Thanks in advance > > Rob
Thanks Jens. My BIOS manual shows 2 places (similar wording to what you describe) but my BIOS doesn't match the manual - there is only one setting. I'm assuming the manual is out of date. The setting that's missing is "Onboard Legacy Audio" which sounds like what I need :( "Jens H. Kruuse" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (10 lines)> On my new pc (KT133A chipset), there are two places in the BIOS where > you have to diasable the onboard sound: Advanced Chipset Features -> > OnChip Sound and Integrated Peripherials -> Onboard Legacy Audio. > Hope this helps. > > /Jens > > Rob Adams wrote: > > > I recently picked up my shiny new PC (specs below) and GPL runs great on
it. > > As usual with new hardware though, I'm experiencing a few minorirritations. > > I'm hoping some of you hardware gurus have some suggestions: > > > > mainboard: ASUS A7M266, BIOS revision 1003 (flashed from 1002 lastnight)
Quoted text (11 lines)> > CPU: AMD Athlon 1.333 GHz > > RAM: 256 MB Crucial DDR (PC1600) > > Vid: 64MB Hercules Prophet Ultra II > > Sound: Diamond Monster MX-300 > > HD: Maxtor 40.0GB 7200RPM UDMA 100 > > > > sound card driver: latest reference Vortex 2 driver ver 2041 plus A3D > > drivers 2.12 > > vid card driver: nVidia driver 12.41 > > > > GPL 1.2 with the newest D3D patch and disco fix. No other patches
(carsound, > > etc.). I am using a Lotus sound from Alison's site, and an updated dash,but > > no other graphics updates > > > > Here are the problems: > > 1. Sound pops and crackles significantly in GPL. I got a bit of thiswith my > > previous PC (PII 333, Voodoo 3) but not enough to annoy. > > > > -->I have visited the GeForce FAQ site and followed most of their > > suggestions, nothing helped. (The suggestions I didn't follow dealt with > > BIOS changes that didn't relate to my BIOS or I couldn't find them ifthey > > did). > > > > 2. Menu flickers in GPL when coming off the track. > > > > -->I have seen this mentioned in other posts and the solution was always > > "use older drivers or live with it". I can live with it unless there isan > > easy solution. It happens maybe 40% of the time, and hitting Esc twicemakes > > it go away (GPL displays the "leave session" dialog box which clears upthe > > display). > > > > 3. (For the real hw gurus): the mainboard comes with an integrated"CMedia" > > sound chip, which I have turned off in the BIOS settings. However, Win98 > > keeps detecting a "PCI Multimedia Audio Device" and can't find drivers.If I > > delete it from Device Manager it just comes back. I'd like to make it go > > away cuz it bugs me. > > > > -->I flashed the BIOS (on the vendor's suggestion) in an attempt to getmy > > BIOS setup screen to resemble the one in the BIOS manual, but it still > > doesn't. I'm thinking this is a bad thing, but the PC seems to beworking > > fine. > > > > 4. I applied the "coolbits" Reg patch in an effort to get theoverclocking > > and vsync tabs in the nVidia control panel but it didn't work for the12.41 > > drivers. I don't want to overclock (yet) but I'd like to see what else Ican > > fiddle with. Anybody been able to get this to work with these drivers? > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > Rob >
The menu flickering problems are an unavoidable part of using D3D in GPL. No solution, although some say certain video card drivers are better than others here (I'm unconvinced, having tried several). The 12.41 drivers don't allow overclocking, it's disabled in this version as these are the MS-approved "offical" detonators. The 12.40 and 12.60 drivers let you overclock but may not be as stable (on account of them not being "officially approved") - if you really want to clock your card with the 12.41's then I believe you can copy just one of the 12.40 files into your 12.41 folder but I'm afraid I don't know which one, sorry. Alternatively use the 12.40's or if you don't need too much DX8 stuff then I find the 10.80 drivers are a few % faster...... HTH Jim "Rob Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:nhaW6.12227$[email hidden]... > I recently picked up my shiny new PC (specs below) and GPL runs great onit. > As usual with new hardware though, I'm experiencing a few minorirritations.
Quoted text (14 lines)> I'm hoping some of you hardware gurus have some suggestions: > > mainboard: ASUS A7M266, BIOS revision 1003 (flashed from 1002 last night) > CPU: AMD Athlon 1.333 GHz > RAM: 256 MB Crucial DDR (PC1600) > Vid: 64MB Hercules Prophet Ultra II > Sound: Diamond Monster MX-300 > HD: Maxtor 40.0GB 7200RPM UDMA 100 > > sound card driver: latest reference Vortex 2 driver ver 2041 plus A3D > drivers 2.12 > vid card driver: nVidia driver 12.41 > > GPL 1.2 with the newest D3D patch and disco fix. No other patches
(carsound, > etc.). I am using a Lotus sound from Alison's site, and an updated dash,but > no other graphics updates > > Here are the problems: > 1. Sound pops and crackles significantly in GPL. I got a bit of this withmy
Quoted text (12 lines)> previous PC (PII 333, Voodoo 3) but not enough to annoy. > > -->I have visited the GeForce FAQ site and followed most of their > suggestions, nothing helped. (The suggestions I didn't follow dealt with > BIOS changes that didn't relate to my BIOS or I couldn't find them if they > did). > > 2. Menu flickers in GPL when coming off the track. > > -->I have seen this mentioned in other posts and the solution was always > "use older drivers or live with it". I can live with it unless there is an > easy solution. It happens maybe 40% of the time, and hitting Esc twice
makes > it go away (GPL displays the "leave session" dialog box which clears upthe > display). > > 3. (For the real hw gurus): the mainboard comes with an integrated"CMedia" > sound chip, which I have turned off in the BIOS settings. However, Win98 > keeps detecting a "PCI Multimedia Audio Device" and can't find drivers. IfI
Quoted text (10 lines)> delete it from Device Manager it just comes back. I'd like to make it go > away cuz it bugs me. > > -->I flashed the BIOS (on the vendor's suggestion) in an attempt to get my > BIOS setup screen to resemble the one in the BIOS manual, but it still > doesn't. I'm thinking this is a bad thing, but the PC seems to be working > fine. > > 4. I applied the "coolbits" Reg patch in an effort to get the overclocking > and vsync tabs in the nVidia control panel but it didn't work for the
12.41 > drivers. I don't want to overclock (yet) but I'd like to see what else Ican
Quoted text (7 lines)> fiddle with. Anybody been able to get this to work with these drivers? > > Thanks in advance > > Rob > >
"Rob Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:nhaW6.12227$[email hidden]... : 3. (For the real hw gurus): the mainboard comes with an integrated "CMedia" : sound chip, which I have turned off in the BIOS settings. However, Win98 : keeps detecting a "PCI Multimedia Audio Device" and can't find drivers. If I : delete it from Device Manager it just comes back. I'd like to make it go : away cuz it bugs me. : Look for a jumper called Audio_EN near the CMedia audio chip. HTH, Dale.
I wondered how long it would take until somebody suggested a non-software method! I'm a-scared! But yeah, that's probably the best way. Thanks Dale. p.s. My pc's faster than yours, nyeah nyeah! hee hee hee :) "Sideshow Bob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (8 lines)> > "Rob Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:nhaW6.12227$[email hidden]... > > : 3. (For the real hw gurus): the mainboard comes with an integrated > "CMedia" > : sound chip, which I have turned off in the BIOS settings. However, Win98 > : keeps detecting a "PCI Multimedia Audio Device" and can't find drivers.
If
Quoted text (12 lines)> I > : delete it from Device Manager it just comes back. I'd like to make it go > : away cuz it bugs me. > : > > Look for a jumper called Audio_EN near the CMedia audio chip. > > HTH, > Dale. > > >
I'm using 12.41 drivers and the graphics problems went away. Solid. "Rob Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:nhaW6.12227$[email hidden]... > I recently picked up my shiny new PC (specs below) and GPL runs great onit. > As usual with new hardware though, I'm experiencing a few minorirritations.
Quoted text (14 lines)> I'm hoping some of you hardware gurus have some suggestions: > > mainboard: ASUS A7M266, BIOS revision 1003 (flashed from 1002 last night) > CPU: AMD Athlon 1.333 GHz > RAM: 256 MB Crucial DDR (PC1600) > Vid: 64MB Hercules Prophet Ultra II > Sound: Diamond Monster MX-300 > HD: Maxtor 40.0GB 7200RPM UDMA 100 > > sound card driver: latest reference Vortex 2 driver ver 2041 plus A3D > drivers 2.12 > vid card driver: nVidia driver 12.41 > > GPL 1.2 with the newest D3D patch and disco fix. No other patches
(carsound, > etc.). I am using a Lotus sound from Alison's site, and an updated dash,but > no other graphics updates > > Here are the problems: > 1. Sound pops and crackles significantly in GPL. I got a bit of this withmy
Quoted text (12 lines)> previous PC (PII 333, Voodoo 3) but not enough to annoy. > > -->I have visited the GeForce FAQ site and followed most of their > suggestions, nothing helped. (The suggestions I didn't follow dealt with > BIOS changes that didn't relate to my BIOS or I couldn't find them if they > did). > > 2. Menu flickers in GPL when coming off the track. > > -->I have seen this mentioned in other posts and the solution was always > "use older drivers or live with it". I can live with it unless there is an > easy solution. It happens maybe 40% of the time, and hitting Esc twice
makes > it go away (GPL displays the "leave session" dialog box which clears upthe > display). > > 3. (For the real hw gurus): the mainboard comes with an integrated"CMedia" > sound chip, which I have turned off in the BIOS settings. However, Win98 > keeps detecting a "PCI Multimedia Audio Device" and can't find drivers. IfI
Quoted text (10 lines)> delete it from Device Manager it just comes back. I'd like to make it go > away cuz it bugs me. > > -->I flashed the BIOS (on the vendor's suggestion) in an attempt to get my > BIOS setup screen to resemble the one in the BIOS manual, but it still > doesn't. I'm thinking this is a bad thing, but the PC seems to be working > fine. > > 4. I applied the "coolbits" Reg patch in an effort to get the overclocking > and vsync tabs in the nVidia control panel but it didn't work for the
12.41 > drivers. I don't want to overclock (yet) but I'd like to see what else Ican
Quoted text (7 lines)> fiddle with. Anybody been able to get this to work with these drivers? > > Thanks in advance > > Rob > >
"Jim Seamus" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:O1cW6.5966$[email hidden]... > The menu flickering problems are an unavoidable part of using D3D in GPL.No > solution, although some say certain video card drivers are better than > others here (I'm unconvinced, having tried several). I'm using D3D with a Riva TNT Model 64, and have never experienced any menu flickering. So at least that card works! (I'm using it on Windows 2000, btw).
I'd agree, definitely change the jumper. My sister's pc with onboard sound would still work even if it was disabled in the bios (but enabled with the jumper), and windows would recognise and install software for it. Piece of pie to change the jumper, just check the manual for which way and do it with the power off :) On Fri, 15 Jun 2001 00:46:59 GMT, "Rob Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (34 lines)>I wondered how long it would take until somebody suggested a non-software >method! I'm a-scared! > >But yeah, that's probably the best way. > >Thanks Dale. > >p.s. My pc's faster than yours, nyeah nyeah! >hee hee hee :) > >"Sideshow Bob" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> >> "Rob Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:nhaW6.12227$[email hidden]... >> >> : 3. (For the real hw gurus): the mainboard comes with an integrated >> "CMedia" >> : sound chip, which I have turned off in the BIOS settings. However, Win98 >> : keeps detecting a "PCI Multimedia Audio Device" and can't find drivers. >If >> I >> : delete it from Device Manager it just comes back. I'd like to make it go >> : away cuz it bugs me. >> : >> >> Look for a jumper called Audio_EN near the CMedia audio chip. >> >> HTH, >> Dale. >> >> >> >
"Rob Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:nhaW6.12227$[email hidden]... > sound card driver: latest reference Vortex 2 driver ver 2041 plusA3D > drivers 2.12 > vid card driver: nVidia driver 12.41 > Thanks in advance > > Rob Don't think 2041 are quite the latest Vortex drivers. Try http://www.vortexofsound.com/drivers/drv_v29x.htm for 2048? -- Laurence Wilmer [email hidden] --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.256 / Virus Database: 129 - Release Date: 31/05/01
Yup, you're right. I wrote the original post from work, guessing at version numbers - I do have 2048. Thanks to all who helped - I flipped the jumper to turn off the onboard chip, and: 1. The device no longer appears in Device Manager (Yay) 2. The crackles in GPL are gone (YAY) 3. I have a couple of free IRQ's to play with (yay) PC's are such fun... "Laurence Wilmer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:jSDW6.19015$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (26 lines)> > "Rob Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:nhaW6.12227$[email hidden]... > > sound card driver: latest reference Vortex 2 driver ver 2041 plus > A3D > > drivers 2.12 > > vid card driver: nVidia driver 12.41 > > Thanks in advance > > > > Rob > > Don't think 2041 are quite the latest Vortex drivers. > Try http://www.vortexofsound.com/drivers/drv_v29x.htm for 2048? > > -- > Laurence Wilmer > [email hidden] > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.256 / Virus Database: 129 - Release Date: 31/05/01 > >
"Rob Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:nhaW6.12227$[email hidden]... > 3. (For the real hw gurus): the mainboard comes with an integrated"CMedia" > sound chip, which I have turned off in the BIOS settings. However, Win98 > keeps detecting a "PCI Multimedia Audio Device" and can't find drivers. IfI > delete it from Device Manager it just comes back. I'd like to make it go > away cuz it bugs me. Usually there is a jumper on the systemboard that must be adjusted as well. > 4. I applied the "coolbits" Reg patch in an effort to get the overclocking > and vsync tabs in the nVidia control panel but it didn't work for the12.41 > drivers. I don't want to overclock (yet) but I'd like to see what else Ican > fiddle with. Anybody been able to get this to work with these drivers? Visit http://www.wildandyc.co.uk/Miscellaneous/coolbits/nocoolbitshey.shtml. I ran across it today; it says how to reenable Coolbits with the 12.41 drivers.
Good to hear all is better (well not all but at least some...) On Sat, 16 Jun 2001 16:44:37 GMT, "Rob Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (41 lines)>Yup, you're right. I wrote the original post from work, guessing at version >numbers - I do have 2048. > >Thanks to all who helped - I flipped the jumper to turn off the onboard >chip, and: > >1. The device no longer appears in Device Manager (Yay) >2. The crackles in GPL are gone (YAY) >3. I have a couple of free IRQ's to play with (yay) > >PC's are such fun... > >"Laurence Wilmer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:jSDW6.19015$[email hidden]... >> >> "Rob Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >> news:nhaW6.12227$[email hidden]... >> > sound card driver: latest reference Vortex 2 driver ver 2041 plus >> A3D >> > drivers 2.12 >> > vid card driver: nVidia driver 12.41 >> > Thanks in advance >> > >> > Rob >> >> Don't think 2041 are quite the latest Vortex drivers. >> Try http://www.vortexofsound.com/drivers/drv_v29x.htm for 2048? >> >> -- >> Laurence Wilmer >> [email hidden] >> >> >> >> --- >> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >> Version: 6.0.256 / Virus Database: 129 - Release Date: 31/05/01 >> >> >
In the spirit of never letting a thread die: I was running first at Road Atlanta last night (GPL) when my fan started to make a clicking noise. It stopped making the noise after a couple of seconds then Crack! Flash! Dead power supply :( Fortunately the vendor lives near me and was available at 8:30 PM and I had a new power supply by 9. "Rafe McAuliffe" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (7 lines)> Good to hear all is better (well not all but at least some...) > > > On Sat, 16 Jun 2001 16:44:37 GMT, "Rob Adams" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >Yup, you're right. I wrote the original post from work, guessing at
version
Quoted text (41 lines)> >numbers - I do have 2048. > > > >Thanks to all who helped - I flipped the jumper to turn off the onboard > >chip, and: > > > >1. The device no longer appears in Device Manager (Yay) > >2. The crackles in GPL are gone (YAY) > >3. I have a couple of free IRQ's to play with (yay) > > > >PC's are such fun... > > > >"Laurence Wilmer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:jSDW6.19015$[email hidden]... > >> > >> "Rob Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >> news:nhaW6.12227$[email hidden]... > >> > sound card driver: latest reference Vortex 2 driver ver 2041 plus > >> A3D > >> > drivers 2.12 > >> > vid card driver: nVidia driver 12.41 > >> > Thanks in advance > >> > > >> > Rob > >> > >> Don't think 2041 are quite the latest Vortex drivers. > >> Try http://www.vortexofsound.com/drivers/drv_v29x.htm for 2048? > >> > >> -- > >> Laurence Wilmer > >> [email hidden] > >> > >> > >> > >> --- > >> Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > >> Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > >> Version: 6.0.256 / Virus Database: 129 - Release Date: 31/05/01 > >> > >> > > >

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