GPL: Save race facility?

It seems that N4 has no facility to save a race partway through racing. Does this mean that Papyrus (or anyone else for that matter) has also NOT updated GPL with this facility?? Please tell me I am wrong... :)) -- Rob.

Rob wrote: > > It seems that N4 has no facility to save a race partway through racing. > Does this mean that Papyrus (or anyone else for that matter) has also NOT > updated GPL with this facility?? > Please tell me I am wrong... :)) You're not wrong. Then again, I wouldn't advise trying to save a VROC race in progress anyways. ;-) GPL really don't need it. -- Fester

Thanks Uncle Fester. I am mainly interested in being able to save my offline games. I don't suppose that makes any difference to my question?? :) -- Rob. "Uncle Fester" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > > Rob wrote: > > > > It seems that N4 has no facility to save a race partway through racing. > > Does this mean that Papyrus (or anyone else for that matter) has also NOT > > updated GPL with this facility?? > > Please tell me I am wrong... :)) > > > > You're not wrong. Then again, I wouldn't advise trying to save a VROC > race in progress anyways. ;-) GPL really don't need it. > > -- > > Fester

Hell I tried hitting "pause" in VROC and it didnt work UF!! Damm!... Whatzup with these multiplayers anywayz? Dont they know to stop? :-) "Uncle Fester" wrote: | You're not wrong. Then again, I wouldn't advise trying to save a VROC | race in progress anyways. ;-) GPL really don't need it. | -- | Fester --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.259 / Virus Database: 130 - Release Date: 6/5/2001

"Thom j." wrote: > > Hell I tried hitting "pause" in VROC and it didnt work UF!! Damm!... > Whatzup with these multiplayers anywayz? Dont they know to stop? :-) Nope. We need a "multiplayer AI fix"! ;-) -- Fester

Rob wrote: > > Thanks Uncle Fester. > I am mainly interested in being able to save my offline games. I don't > suppose that makes any difference to my question?? :) Sorry, my friend, I can't help ya there. Can I suggest something less than GP length races if you're pressed for time? Not like there's any pit strategy to play out. -- Fester

In article <[email hidden]>, Uncle Fester <[email hidden]> writes:

Quoted text (16 lines)

>Subject: Re: GPL: Save race facility? >From: Uncle Fester <[email hidden]> >Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 00:08:05 GMT > > >Rob wrote: >> >> It seems that N4 has no facility to save a race partway through racing. >> Does this mean that Papyrus (or anyone else for that matter) has also NOT >> updated GPL with this facility?? >> Please tell me I am wrong... :)) > > > >You're not wrong. Then again, I wouldn't advise trying to save a VROC >race in progress anyways. ;-) GPL really don't need it.

Hey Chuck - How did you post this on Saturday? It's only about 11:10pm now... Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +16.36...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

EldredP wrote: > >Subject: Re: GPL: Save race facility? > >From: Uncle Fester <[email hidden]> > >Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2001 00:08:05 GMT > Hey Chuck - > How did you post this on Saturday? It's only about 11:10pm now... Ermm.... Check the date heading again. It's listed in GMT. It *is* Saturday there right now. ;-) DOH! -- Fester

EldredP wrote:

Quoted text (8 lines)

> Hey Chuck - > How did you post this on Saturday? It's only about 11:10pm now... > > Eldred > -- > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > F1 hcp. +16.36...F2 +151.26...

^^^^^^^ BTW--congrats on knocking another *4 seconds* off your handicap, St. Eldred! Like I told ya, you'll be negative in no time. -- Fester

Indeed.... Well done Eldred. Jan. =--- Uncle Fester wrote...

Quoted text (7 lines)

> <snip> > BTW--congrats on knocking another *4 seconds* off your handicap, St. > Eldred! Like I told ya, you'll be negative in no time. > > -- > > Fester

Yea Eldred you snuck you lower number in & I never realized it until Fester mentioned it! Congrads! Now I really gotta get crakin'. Yikes! | Uncle Fester wrote... | <snipp'ed> | BTW--congrats on knocking another *4 seconds* off your handicap, St. | Eldred! Like I told ya, you'll be negative in no time. | -- | Fester --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.259 / Virus Database: 130 - Release Date: 6/5/2001

it's not a question of being pressed for time. it's the need to answer the phone or the door or nature's calls. other sims have it, so why not gpl? Iain "Uncle Fester" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

Quoted text (15 lines)

> > Rob wrote: > > > > Thanks Uncle Fester. > > I am mainly interested in being able to save my offline games. I don't > > suppose that makes any difference to my question?? :) > > > Sorry, my friend, I can't help ya there. Can I suggest something less > than GP length races if you're pressed for time? Not like there's any > pit strategy to play out. > > -- > > Fester

For these things you use the pause key. Bart Westra "Iain Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:CFHW6.6236$[email hidden]...

Quoted text (11 lines)

> it's not a question of being pressed for time. it's the need to answer the > phone or the door or nature's calls. other sims have it, so why not gpl? > Iain > > "Uncle Fester" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > Rob wrote: > > > > > > Thanks Uncle Fester. > > > I am mainly interested in being able to save my offline games. I

don't

Quoted text (12 lines)

> > > suppose that makes any difference to my question?? :) > > > > > > Sorry, my friend, I can't help ya there. Can I suggest something less > > than GP length races if you're pressed for time? Not like there's any > > pit strategy to play out. > > > > -- > > > > Fester > >

In article <x6GW6.17607$[email hidden]>, "Thom j." <[email hidden]> writes:

Quoted text (8 lines)

>Yea Eldred you snuck you lower number in & I never realized it until >Fester mentioned it! Congrads! Now I really gotta get crakin'. Yikes! > >| Uncle Fester wrote... >| <snipp'ed> >| BTW--congrats on knocking another *4 seconds* off your handicap, St. >| Eldred! Like I told ya, you'll be negative in no time. >| --

I wondered if someone would notice that...<g> Lotus PB's on 10 different tracks, overall PB's on 7. But, I still have a long way to go. Negative is still far off, unless I get lucky at Nurburgring...<g> Eldred Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +16.36...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Speaking of the Ring, you do realise you only need to get the Eagle 'round there in 8m49s or better to go sub-400 on MonsterRank? -Piece of cake surely!! ;-) Jan. =--- EldredP wrote...

Quoted text (15 lines)

> <snip> > I wondered if someone would notice that...<g> Lotus > PB's on 10 different tracks, overall PB's on 7. But, > I still have a long way to go. Negative is still far > off, unless I get lucky at Nurburgring...<g> > > Eldred > > Eldred > -- > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > F1 hcp. +16.36...F2 +151.26... > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

not the same I'm afraid. my question still stands. Iain "Bart Westra" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3b2b53ff$0$38685$[email hidden]...

Quoted text (7 lines)

> For these things you use the pause key. > > Bart Westra > > "Iain Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:CFHW6.6236$[email hidden]... > > it's not a question of being pressed for time. it's the need to answer

the

Quoted text (25 lines)

> > phone or the door or nature's calls. other sims have it, so why not gpl? > > Iain > > > > "Uncle Fester" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:[email hidden]... > > > > > > Rob wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanks Uncle Fester. > > > > I am mainly interested in being able to save my offline games. I > don't > > > > suppose that makes any difference to my question?? :) > > > > > > > > > Sorry, my friend, I can't help ya there. Can I suggest something less > > > than GP length races if you're pressed for time? Not like there's any > > > pit strategy to play out. > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Fester > > > > > >

In article <MDKW6.38614$[email hidden]>, "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> writes: >Speaking of the Ring, you do realise you only need to get the Eagle 'round >there in 8m49s or better to go sub-400 on MonsterRank? -Piece of cake >surely!! ;-) > It should ALREADY be sub 400. When does it update? Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +16.36...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Chassis Rank updates midnight Eastern, but I think you need to visit that page for the MonsterRank to be updated... Jan. =--- EldredP wrote...

Quoted text (13 lines)

> <snip> > It should ALREADY be sub 400. When does it update? > > Eldred > > -- > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > F1 hcp. +16.36...F2 +151.26... > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, > then beats you with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Actually the main reason I would like a save facility is that I am sick of racing for 1-1.5 hours before a computer opponent crashes into me. Before you say I am a useless driver I find most of the crashes occur under brakes (i.e. they crash into the back of me), or when watching the replay they change line when I am right beside them. Or maybe I am useless... Rob (GPL Rank: -20) -- Rob. "Iain Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:CFHW6.6236$[email hidden]... > it's not a question of being pressed for time. it's the need to answer the > phone or the door or nature's calls. other sims have it, so why not gpl? > Iain > > "Uncle Fester" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > > > Rob wrote: > > > > > > Thanks Uncle Fester. > > > I am mainly interested in being able to save my offline games. I don't > > > suppose that makes any difference to my question?? :) > > > > > > Sorry, my friend, I can't help ya there. Can I suggest something less > > than GP length races if you're pressed for time? Not like there's any > > pit strategy to play out. > > > > -- > > > > Fester > >

In article <I5LW6.6527$[email hidden]>, "Iain Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> writes:

Quoted text (8 lines)

>not the same I'm afraid. my question still stands. >Iain > >"Bart Westra" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:3b2b53ff$0$38685$[email hidden]... >> For these things you use the pause key. >> >> Bart Westra

The short answer is they just chose not to put a savegame feature in GPL. Why(or how) they made that choice hasn't been explained officially. But per your last answer - you'd perfer to save and exit the game to answer the phone, rather than just hit pause? Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +16.36...F2 +151.26... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

I would if I had to either refer to or make a note in my calender (or any other resource) which resides on the same PC. Doesn't bother me much as I do very little offline racing and when I'm racing online I just don't answer the phone/door/whatever. ;-) Jan. =--- EldredP wrote... > <snip>

In article <byOW6.40193$[email hidden]>, "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> writes: >Chassis Rank updates midnight Eastern, but I think you need to visit that >page for the MonsterRank to be updated... > Ok - done. Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +366.59... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <9ggd42$hbv$[email hidden]>, "Rob" <[email hidden]> writes: > Actually the main reason I would like a save facility is that I am sick of >racing for 1-1.5 hours before a computer opponent crashes into me. Before >you say I am a useless driver I find most of the crashes occur under brakes >(i.e. they crash into the back of me), or when watching the replay they >change line when I am right beside them. > Or maybe I am useless... But having a savegame feature wouldn't stop the crashes. What do you want to do, save every so often, and re-load in case of a crash? That's cheating... :) I agree that a savegame should be in there - I just don't agree with your REASON... Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +366.59... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Opportunity knocked on Jan's door last night, but he was trying to pass Eldred in the braking zone before Tarzanbocht... :-) /Jens Jan Verschueren wrote:

Quoted text (12 lines)

> I would if I had to either refer to or make a note in my calender (or any > other resource) which resides on the same PC. > > Doesn't bother me much as I do very little offline racing and when I'm > racing online I just don't answer the phone/door/whatever. ;-) > > Jan. > =--- > > EldredP wrote... > >> <snip>

If that were really the case, wouldn't opportunity have already knocked, with me answering? Jan. ;-) =--- Jens H. Kruuse wrote... > Opportunity knocked on Jan's door last night, but he > was trying to pass Eldred in the braking zone before > Tarzanbocht... :-) > > /Jens ><snip>

It may not stop the crashes, Eldred, but it would at least give me another chance to get past the lapped driver. :)) Yes, I suppose that is cheating, but only because of bad AI in GPL. Just shows you how bad the AI in other games/sims are, as I would rate GPL as having the best AI of any race simulation. -- Rob. "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <9ggd42$hbv$[email hidden]>, "Rob" <[email hidden]> writes: > > > Actually the main reason I would like a save facility is that I am sick of > >racing for 1-1.5 hours before a computer opponent crashes into me. Before > >you say I am a useless driver I find most of the crashes occur under brakes > >(i.e. they crash into the back of me), or when watching the replay they > >change line when I am right beside them. > > Or maybe I am useless... > > But having a savegame feature wouldn't stop the crashes. What do you want to > do, save every so often, and re-load in case of a crash? That's cheating... :) > I agree that a savegame should be in there - I just don't agree with your > REASON... > > Eldred > -- > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +366.59... > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Didn't say necessarily exit the game. I would like to have the choice though. There are lots of reasons why it's not possible to complete a full race, and doing a smaller number of laps is not really the same. I really wish that Papy had put in the save facility. Iain "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In article <I5LW6.6527$[email hidden]>, "IainMackenzie"

Quoted text (13 lines)

> <[email hidden]> writes: > > >not the same I'm afraid. my question still stands. > >Iain > > > >"Bart Westra" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > >news:3b2b53ff$0$38685$[email hidden]... > >> For these things you use the pause key. > >> > >> Bart Westra > > The short answer is they just chose not to put a savegame feature in GPL. > Why(or how) they made that choice hasn't been explained officially. But

per > your last answer - you'd perfer to save and exit the game to answer thephone,

Quoted text (9 lines)

> rather than just hit pause? > > Eldred > -- > Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 > Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett > F1 hcp. +16.36...F2 +151.26... > > Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats

you > with experience... > Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

>"Iain Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> wrote > it's not a question of being pressed for time. it's the need to answer the > phone or the door or nature's calls. In both cases, press pause. Can we stop beating a dead horse? -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

>"Rob" <[email hidden]> wrote > Actually the main reason I would like a save facility is that I am sickof > racing for 1-1.5 hours before a computer opponent crashes into me. That's racing. Deal with it. There's no difference between getting wrecked on the first, 50th or last lap. It happens because it's racing. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

> Can we stop beating a dead horse? >Words like pot kettle and black come to mind! If only your advice would sweep through ras on other subjects, life would be more constructive here! Iain

>"Iain Mackenzie" <[email hidden]> wrote > If only your advice would sweep through ras on other subjects, life wouldbe > more constructive here! I'll just say that I never saw what you just wrote. Have a nice day. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

On 16 Jun 2001 13:46:48 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: >I wondered if someone would notice that...<g> Lotus PB's on 10 different >tracks, overall PB's on 7. But, I still have a long way to go. Negative is >still far off, unless I get lucky at Nurburgring...<g> > >Eldred So the full linearity and no deadzone helped? :) Andre

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Andre Warringa) writes:

Quoted text (11 lines)

>On 16 Jun 2001 13:46:48 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: > >>I wondered if someone would notice that...<g> Lotus PB's on 10 different >>tracks, overall PB's on 7. But, I still have a long way to go. Negative >is >>still far off, unless I get lucky at Nurburgring...<g> >> >>Eldred > >So the full linearity and no deadzone helped? :) >

Yeah, for one DAY. I can't get close to those times now... :( I don't get it... Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +366.59... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <[email hidden]>, EldredP wrote: >>So the full linearity and no deadzone helped? :) > >Yeah, for one DAY. I can't get close to those times now... :( >I don't get it... Happens to me all the time - don't worry about it. Sometimes I make a new PB on the first fast lap. The next day I can't put down a single clean lap. *Unagi* -Jari Please remove SPAMLESS before replying via email. Thank you. -- {~._.~} o Jari Ketola - if.iki@alotek - ICQ 7557999 - +358-50-3080693 ( Y ) : The University of Oulu Department of Electrical Engineering ()~*~() : Game&Watch - DVD - B5 - PSX - TV - http://www.AfterDawn.com (_)-(_) . [ View my DVD Collection on-line at http://tazty.com/dvd ]

In article <9gl82u$l3f$[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Jari Ketola) writes:

Quoted text (11 lines)

>In article <[email hidden]>, EldredP wrote: > >>>So the full linearity and no deadzone helped? :) >> >>Yeah, for one DAY. I can't get close to those times now... :( >>I don't get it... > >Happens to me all the time - don't worry about it. Sometimes I make >a new PB on the first fast lap. The next day I can't put down a single >clean lap. *Unagi* >

I can run clean laps, but they're 2-3 seconds off my PB. WTF? Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +366.59... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Uhmm? Eldred.. I'm a few seconds off from my PBs days&days.. Doesnt seem overly unusual to me.. Why do you? only curious.. Thom_j. "EldredP" wrote: | I can run clean laps, but they're 2-3 seconds off my PB. WTF? | | Eldred --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.259 / Virus Database: 130 - Release Date: 6/5/2001

On 19 Jun 2001 02:32:37 GMT, [email hidden] (EldredP) wrote: >I can run clean laps, but they're 2-3 seconds off my PB. WTF? > >Eldred 2-3 seconds is a lot (depending on the track, on the Ring it's normal :) but I do have the same, and I think most people do.. One day I'm breaking pb's and the next day I can't even get close. Frustration builds up which leads to even worse laptimes.. sucks when that happens on a league day :) Andre

Quoted text (7 lines)

>Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 >Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett >F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +366.59... > >Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you >with experience... >Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <A3zX6.24228$[email hidden]>, "Thom j." <[email hidden]> writes:

Quoted text (8 lines)

>Uhmm? Eldred.. I'm a few seconds off from my PBs days&days.. >Doesnt seem overly unusual to me.. Why do you? only curious.. >Thom_j. > >"EldredP" wrote: >| I can run clean laps, but they're 2-3 seconds off my PB. WTF? >| >| Eldred

Because a PB shouldn't be THAT far off what you're normally capable of. You should at least be close, and improve on it when you put together the perfect lap. IMO... Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +366.59... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

I agree. If you can't get within a second or so of your PB (on the shorter tracks) on a fairly regular basis then that lap isn't very representative of your overall ability. It may have just been the gods shining down on you that day :( "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Because a PB shouldn't be THAT far off what you're normally capable of.You > should at least be close, and improve on it when you put together theperfect > lap. IMO... >

In article <OlLX6.40153$[email hidden]>, "Rob Adams" <[email hidden]> writes: >I agree. If you can't get within a second or so of your PB (on the shorter >tracks) on a fairly regular basis then that lap isn't very representative of >your overall ability. It may have just been the gods shining down on you >that day :( > Makes me mad that I didn't run EVERY track in EVERY car. I probably could have even dropped my monster rank under 300...<sigh> Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +366.59... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.