Best F1 sim? Best Ralley sim? Best Wheel Under $100?

I was a PC car racing nut but been out of the loop for a while. I went and did something stupid...got married and what do you know it's been a few 2 years+ without much gaming. Anyway who is making the best Ralley sim? What about F1? Is Act Labs still making a nice wheel? How much? Any suggestions greatly appreciated. Got the new Nas 4 and love it but my Mad Catz wheel throttle is messed up. I have to move the gas pedal from side to side to get full use and then its a crap shoot...not much fun! I don't think I need a Force Feedback wheel never used one and feel it may tax my PC so a non-FFB wheel would probably be fine unless you guys think otherwise. Thanks, Gary -- Gary

<[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9gekbk$4iv$[email hidden]... >[snip]Anyway who is making the best Ralley sim? If you mean Rally, it's a toss up between the current contenders: Rally Masters, Colin McRae Rally 2.0, and Rally Championships. Rally Masters have very SHORT tracks, but it "feels" more like rallying with the slides around corners and wide open tracks. It also has a LOT of super-special head-to-head stages. On the other hand, it has very little traditional rallying (only 1/4th). Rally Championships has the best tracks, but most of the courses are VERY tight and some are extremely long (26 miles!) The driving model seems to be very unforgiving and some claim, unrealistic. Powerslides are nearly impossible. It has plenty of cars though, from tiny A5's all the way up to 4WD A8's. Colin McRae 2.0 is somewhere between the two. The stages are short but there's plenty of variety, while driving model is improved from the previous version. --KC

For F1, buy F1 CS 2000 if you have a CPU > 600 MHz and a new gfx card (except GF MX series) you'll be very happy. People with less power seem to hate the game and bash it without admitting that they have an out-of-date computer. The cars may feel heavy, but there's a patch to make the cars agile (All Chassis Patch). And the physics simulation and AI are great. As for controller, I'd say MS SideWinder FF Wheel or MS SideWinder Precision Wheel, depending on your budget. Act Labs can be better, so listen to someone who has one, but the new Logitech Wingman FF simply is a headache, it has sooo many problems, braking, deadzone, etc. <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9gekbk$4iv$[email hidden]... > I was a PC car racing nut but been out of the loop for a while. I wentand > did something stupid...got married and what do you know it's been a few 2 > years+ without much gaming. Anyway who is making the best Ralley sim?What > about F1? Is Act Labs still making a nice wheel? How much? Any > suggestions greatly appreciated. Got the new Nas 4 and love it but my Mad > Catz wheel throttle is messed up. I have to move the gas pedal from sideto > side to get full use and then its a crap shoot...not much fun! I don't > think I need a Force Feedback wheel never used one and feel it may tax myPC

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> so a non-FFB wheel would probably be fine unless you guys think otherwise. > > Thanks, > Gary > > -- > Gary > >

On Sat, 16 Jun 2001 00:57:48 -0700, "Kasey Chang \(use EXCITE.COM instead!\)" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Rally Championships has the best tracks, but most of the courses are >VERY tight and some are extremely long (26 miles!) The driving model >seems to be very unforgiving and some claim, unrealistic. Powerslides >are nearly impossible. It has plenty of cars though, from tiny A5's all >the >way up to 4WD A8's. Powerslides are not impossible at all. You just need the right physics tweaks. On those tight tracks in the UK I doubt one would be doing powerslides anyway. Those rally games where every corner is a powerslide are BS arcade games. I watched some rally racing on TV the other day and they certainly don't powerslide through every corner. Mobil1 Rally Championship looks the closest to the real thing to me.

I'd say go with F1RC or GP3. I have F1CS (also have F1 2000) and have tried it on Athlon 750 with Radeon 64DDR, Celeron 950 with Voodoo 4, it doesn't play well on either. Very poor graphics optimisation in the game IMO and the cars definitely feel way to heavy. I use MSFF and MSPP wheels, both are pretty good. -- Ian P <email invalid due to spammers> "Ali Ismet Ozkan" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:v6GW6.5121$[email hidden]... > For F1, buy F1 CS 2000 if you have a CPU > 600 MHz and a new gfx card > (except GF MX series) you'll be very happy. People with less power seem to > hate the game and bash it without admitting that they have an out-of-date > computer. The cars may feel heavy, but there's a patch to make the cars > agile (All Chassis Patch). And the physics simulation and AI are great. > > As for controller, I'd say MS SideWinder FF Wheel or MS SideWinder > Precision Wheel, depending on your budget. Act Labs can be better, so listen > to someone who has one, but the new Logitech Wingman FF simply is a > headache, it has sooo many problems, braking, deadzone, etc. > >

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> On Sat, 16 Jun 2001 00:57:48 -0700, "Kasey Chang \(use EXCITE.COM > instead!\)" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > >Rally Championships has the best tracks, but most of the courses are > >VERY tight and some are extremely long (26 miles!) The driving model > >seems to be very unforgiving and some claim, unrealistic. Powerslides > >are nearly impossible. It has plenty of cars though, from tiny A5's all > >the > >way up to 4WD A8's. > > Powerslides are not impossible at all. You just need the right physics > tweaks. On those tight tracks in the UK I doubt one would be doing > powerslides anyway. Those rally games where every corner is a > powerslide are BS arcade games. I watched some rally racing on TV the > other day and they certainly don't powerslide through every corner. > Mobil1 Rally Championship looks the closest to the real thing to me.

Front wheel drive, 4 wheel drive, rear wheel drive all veeeery diferent

On Fri, 15 Jun 2001 23:45:03 -0400, <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>I was a PC car racing nut but been out of the loop for a while. I went and >did something stupid...got married and what do you know it's been a few 2 >years+ without much gaming. Anyway who is making the best Ralley sim? What >about F1? Is Act Labs still making a nice wheel? How much? Any >suggestions greatly appreciated. Got the new Nas 4 and love it but my Mad >Catz wheel throttle is messed up. I have to move the gas pedal from side to >side to get full use and then its a crap shoot...not much fun! I don't >think I need a Force Feedback wheel never used one and feel it may tax my PC >so a non-FFB wheel would probably be fine unless you guys think otherwise. > >Thanks, >Gary

Just get GPL and a good force feedback wheel. You don't need other sims! --- http://go.to/ra300z

Oh, my. Three holy-wars in the same thread. This will get ugly :) -Larry <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9gekbk$4iv$[email hidden]... > I was a PC car racing nut but been out of the loop for a while. I wentand > did something stupid...got married and what do you know it's been a few 2 > years+ without much gaming. Anyway who is making the best Ralley sim?What > about F1? Is Act Labs still making a nice wheel? How much? Any > suggestions greatly appreciated. Got the new Nas 4 and love it but my Mad > Catz wheel throttle is messed up. I have to move the gas pedal from sideto > side to get full use and then its a crap shoot...not much fun! I don't > think I need a Force Feedback wheel never used one and feel it may tax myPC

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> so a non-FFB wheel would probably be fine unless you guys think otherwise. > > Thanks, > Gary > > -- > Gary > >