Re: 2 new Rally Trophy screenshots

http://www.simactu.com/articles/articles_images/rallytrophy_2.jpg YEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSS!!!!! But please - get rid-off the "checkered-flag" roof - it should be all [off-] white. Also.. another point worth making... sponsorship was not that big back then (ref. the Amazon) -- ed_ -- Note! Return address is *not* my own - but the e-mail address to an e-mail mass-distribution company that have bothered me one time to many! Eat this - suckers!

In 1967 ?? -- Nope! :-) Guess it depends upon the period they want to "re-create". Unless I'm mistaken - "bigtime" sponsorship didnt surface until the early 70's in rally... -- ed_ -- Note! Return address is *not* my own - but the e-mail address to an e-mail mass-distribution company that have bothered me one time to many! Eat this - suckers! David Buttery wrote: > Ever seen a Castrol-liveried Escort Mk II...? ;-)

http://www.simactu.com/articles/screenshots_contenu.php3?id=99 -Ilari -- .: 'Take me drunk, I'm home.' http://www.focused.wox.org .: 'Someone fetch my Abarth from the tree?' http://www.bugbear.fi .: all opinions and such stated in my posts are mine only, damnit.

http://www.simactu.com/articles/screenshots_contenu.php3?id=99 -Ilari -- .: 'Take me drunk, I'm home.' http://www.focused.wox.org .: 'Someone fetch my Abarth from the tree?' http://www.bugbear.fi .: all opinions and such stated in my posts are mine only, damnit.

Ed Solheim <[email hidden]> wrote on 18 Jun 2001: <snip> > Also.. another point worth making... sponsorship was not that big > back then (ref. the Amazon) Ever seen a Castrol-liveried Escort Mk II...? ;-) -- David. (GPLRank handicap -5.92; Monsters of GPLRank h/cap +272.44) The GPL Scrapyard: http://scrapyard.9ug.com "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh.

The era in Rally Trophy is more among the lines of "those golden days" than "between 1969 May 15th evening and August 2nd mid-afternoon", so we can get a nifty variety of cars. We have concentrated our nitpicking on the car physics. :-) -Ilari "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:XGSX6.3520$[email hidden]...

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> In 1967 ?? -- Nope! > :-) > > Guess it depends upon the period they want to "re-create". > Unless I'm mistaken - "bigtime" sponsorship didnt surface until the early > 70's in rally... > -- > ed_ > -- > Note! > Return address is *not* my own - but the e-mail address to an e-mail > mass-distribution company that have bothered me one time to many! Eat > this - suckers! > > David Buttery wrote: > > Ever seen a Castrol-liveried Escort Mk II...? ;-) > > > >

Over at http://www.rgonetwork.com/screenshots/historicrallytrophy_pc.shtml -Ilari "Ilari Lehtinen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9gnm8d$4si$[email hidden]...

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> http://www.simactu.com/articles/screenshots_contenu.php3?id=99 > > -Ilari > > -- > .: 'Take me drunk, I'm home.' http://www.focused.wox.org > .: 'Someone fetch my Abarth from the tree?' http://www.bugbear.fi > .: all opinions and such stated in my posts are mine only, damnit. > >

Ilari Lehtinen <[email hidden]> wrote on 20 Jun 2001: > The era in Rally Trophy is more among the lines of "those golden > days" than "between 1969 May 15th evening and August 2nd > mid-afternoon", so we can get a nifty variety of cars. We have > concentrated our nitpicking on the car physics. :-) Sounds good :-) While you're here, can I be rude and ask a couple of questions? I'm going to anyway... 1) Will there be any sort of track editor? 2) How much scope is there for third-party addons, and how hard would it be to produce them? -- David. (GPLRank handicap -5.92; Monsters of GPLRank h/cap +272.44) The GPL Scrapyard: http://scrapyard.9ug.com "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh.

These are issues we haven't decided fully yet, but it _seems_ at the moment that we'll be releasing tools to import user-made addons into the game. No track editor as such, as new tracks would be imported as well, AFAIK. Again, this is how it's scetched at the moment and it could still change. We'll let you know when we know for sure, don't worry. :-) -Ilari "David Buttery" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> 1) Will there be any sort of track editor? > > 2) How much scope is there for third-party addons, and how hard would > it be to produce them? > > -- > David. (GPLRank handicap -5.92; Monsters of GPLRank h/cap +272.44) > The GPL Scrapyard: http://scrapyard.9ug.com > "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, > really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh.

This sound like good music to me! :-) Being able to import cars, paintjobs and stages would be a huge pluss to this title! Please let me reserve "33 EJB" at once :-) I'm allready looking forward to it as a little kid! -- ed_ -- NOTE! Return address is *not* my own - but the e-mail address to some spammers that has bothered me one time to many! This weeks winners: [email hidden] - Eat this - suckers! "Ilari Lehtinen" wrote: > These are issues we haven't decided fully yet, but it _seems_ at the moment > that we'll be releasing tools to import user-made addons into the game. No > track editor as such, as new tracks would be imported as well, AFAIK. Again, > this is how it's scetched at the moment and it could still change. We'll let > you know when we know for sure, don't worry. :-) > > -Ilari

Screw the physics Ilari -- give us eye candy!! Haven't you guys learned anything from the lesson Ubisoft taught us with F1RC? <DUCKING AND RUNNING> </SATIRE> ;-) -- JB On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 12:08:58 +0300, "Ilari Lehtinen" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>The era in Rally Trophy is more among the lines of "those golden days" than >"between 1969 May 15th evening and August 2nd mid-afternoon", so we can get >a nifty variety of cars. We have concentrated our nitpicking on the car >physics. :-) > >-Ilari > >"Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:XGSX6.3520$[email hidden]... >> In 1967 ?? -- Nope! >> :-) >> >> Guess it depends upon the period they want to "re-create". >> Unless I'm mistaken - "bigtime" sponsorship didnt surface until the early >> 70's in rally... >> -- >> ed_ >> -- >> Note! >> Return address is *not* my own - but the e-mail address to an e-mail >> mass-distribution company that have bothered me one time to many! Eat >> this - suckers! >> >> David Buttery wrote: >> > Ever seen a Castrol-liveried Escort Mk II...? ;-) >> >> >> >> > >

On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 12:08:58 +0300, "Ilari Lehtinen" <[email hidden]> wrote: >The era in Rally Trophy is more among the lines of "those golden days" than >"between 1969 May 15th evening and August 2nd mid-afternoon", <SNIP> ARE YOU INSANE?! Everybody knows the best rallying occurred between the morning of February 2nd 1968 and July 17th around midnight!!! This title is really going to suck, I fear, because you guys obviously just don't know what you're doing. <DUCKING AND RUNNING AGAIN> </SATIRE> ;-) -- JB

LOL John!! Touche'..!!! :-) And Ditto "John Bodin" wrote: | Screw the physics Ilari -- give us eye candy!! Haven't you guys | learned anything from the lesson Ubisoft taught us with F1RC? | <DUCKING AND RUNNING> | </SATIRE> | ;-) | -- JB --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.262 / Virus Database: 132 - Release Date: 6/12/2001

Ilari Lehtinen <[email hidden]> wrote on 20 Jun 2001: > These are issues we haven't decided fully yet, but it _seems_ at > the moment that we'll be releasing tools to import user-made addons > into the game.<snip> OK, let me as a potential buyer decide it for you : you *have* to do those tools. Look at GPL - an userbase that's actively involved with a game helps that game live for a lot longer than it would if it were a "closed system". To hell with WSC, *this* is the game at the top of my "most wanted" list right now... if this game is anywhere near as good as it looks so far, I'll be into EB the second it's out - dubious Monte exclusions ahoy! -- David. (GPLRank handicap -5.92; Monsters of GPLRank h/cap +272.44) The GPL Scrapyard: http://scrapyard.9ug.com "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh.

Message delivered to appropriate parties. :-) We know the importance of player communities adding to the game's lifespan with modifications and such, it's just a matter of how it'll be done. About the visuals.. There's a surprising amount of people claiming the screenshots are pre-rendered and fake. And they haven't even seen the best shots yet! -Ilari "David Buttery" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> OK, let me as a potential buyer decide it for you : you *have* to do > those tools. Look at GPL - an userbase that's actively involved with a > game helps that game live for a lot longer than it would if it were a > "closed system". > > To hell with WSC, *this* is the game at the top of my "most wanted" > list right now... if this game is anywhere near as good as it looks so > far, I'll be into EB the second it's out - dubious Monte exclusions > ahoy! > > -- > David. (GPLRank handicap -5.92; Monsters of GPLRank h/cap +272.44) > The GPL Scrapyard: http://scrapyard.9ug.com > "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, > really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh.

"Ilari Lehtinen" wrote > Message delivered to appropriate parties. :-) Could you tell the appropriate parties that the Mini could use some work aswell :-) Right now it got a Mk 1/2 grill, Mk 3 doors, Mk 2 rear window, Mk 1 tail-lights and Mk 4 badging! :-) Holler if you need any expert help :-) -- ed_ -- NOTE! Return address is *not* my own - but the e-mail address to some spammers that has bothered me one time to many.... so now it's payback-time!! This months winners: [email hidden]

Ilari Lehtinen <[email hidden]> wrote on 21 Jun 2001: <snip> > We know the importance of player communities adding to the game's > lifespan with modifications and such<snip> Finland 1 France 0... > About the visuals.. There's a surprising amount of people claiming > the screenshots are pre-rendered and fake. And they haven't even > seen the best shots yet! The ones with a proper Mini? ;-) (see Ed's post) Anyway, I'll shut up for a bit now and let you get on with the important stuff. -- David. (GPLRank handicap -5.92; Monsters of GPLRank h/cap +272.44) The GPL Scrapyard: http://scrapyard.9ug.com "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh.

<SATIRE> I've heard rumors -- or maybe it's just my medication wearing off -- that the West Brothers are teaming with Bugbear to produce World Rally Sports Trophy Cars. It will be so realistic that it will leave oil stains under your monitor. And it will, to John Bodin's point, model only the very most golden days of world rally sport trophy car competition. That being the morning (10:03) of February 2nd 1968 and July 17th around midnight (11:56). With time off for lunch, of course. </SATIRE> On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:45:41 GMT, [email hidden] (John Bodin) wrote:

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>On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 12:08:58 +0300, "Ilari Lehtinen" ><[email hidden]> wrote: > >>The era in Rally Trophy is more among the lines of "those golden days" than >>"between 1969 May 15th evening and August 2nd mid-afternoon", > ><SNIP> > >ARE YOU INSANE?! Everybody knows the best rallying occurred between >the morning of February 2nd 1968 and July 17th around midnight!!! > >This title is really going to suck, I fear, because you guys obviously >just don't know what you're doing. > ><DUCKING AND RUNNING AGAIN> > ></SATIRE> > >;-) > >-- JB > >

Remove "hi" from address or it will bounce....

<SATIRE> Ha! Another self-proclaimed "rally expert" shows just how little he really knows about rallying. Anybody who knows anything could tell you that the TRUE golden days of world rally sport trophy competition actually started at 9:26 am on the morning of February 2nd, 1968. Many people have bought into the myth that it actually started at 10:03 am, but this is just plain wrong. Some would also debate your allegation about the 11:56 pm time, as many feel that the era actually came to an end at 11:58 pm, but I am inclined to go with the earlier time myself, so I guess we can at least agree on this point. Be advised, though, that you should read your non-disclosure agreements more carefully next time -- I believe all the gamma testers for World Rally Sports Trophy Cars were advised to keep quiet about the Bugbear/West brothers tie-in, so please be more careful in the future. </SATIRE> On Fri, 22 Jun 2001 01:08:58 GMT, [email hidden] wrote:

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><SATIRE> > >I've heard rumors -- or maybe it's just my >medication wearing off -- that the West Brothers >are teaming with Bugbear to produce World Rally >Sports Trophy Cars. It will be so realistic that >it will leave oil stains under your monitor. And >it will, to John Bodin's point, model only the >very most golden days of world rally sport trophy >car competition. That being the morning (10:03) >of February 2nd 1968 and July 17th around midnight >(11:56). With time off for lunch, of course. > ></SATIRE> > > On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 14:45:41 GMT, >[email hidden] (John Bodin) wrote: > >>On Wed, 20 Jun 2001 12:08:58 +0300, "Ilari Lehtinen" >><[email hidden]> wrote: >> >>>The era in Rally Trophy is more among the lines of "those golden days" than >>>"between 1969 May 15th evening and August 2nd mid-afternoon", >> >><SNIP> >> >>ARE YOU INSANE?! Everybody knows the best rallying occurred between >>the morning of February 2nd 1968 and July 17th around midnight!!! >> >>This title is really going to suck, I fear, because you guys obviously >>just don't know what you're doing. >> >><DUCKING AND RUNNING AGAIN> >> >></SATIRE> >> >>;-) >> >>-- JB >> >> > > >Remove "hi" from address or it will bounce....

Thanks Ed, I try to make all the models as original ones, but there's always some difficulties to do so. We have blueprints for only few cars, some cars I have to make only looking for poor pictures from internet, due the good old cars are hard to find to take pictures nowadays. That mini I've made have some bugs as well and I'm fixing them as soon as possible. -Sami R�ih� 3D-Artist Email: [email hidden] "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:5BnY6.4132$[email hidden]...

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> "Ilari Lehtinen" wrote > > Message delivered to appropriate parties. :-) > > Could you tell the appropriate parties that the Mini could use some work > aswell :-) > > Right now it got a Mk 1/2 grill, Mk 3 doors, Mk 2 rear window, Mk 1 > tail-lights and Mk 4 badging! :-) > > Holler if you need any expert help :-) > > -- > ed_ > --