rFactor, first few hours

Downloaded, installed, and started it up and payed (via credit card)with no problems. Went through and set up controls and turned off driving aids and other things to make it more realistic. Got in the car and ... Couldn't get the car in gear. My home built h-shifter and 3 pedals were all mapped correctly but I couldn't get the car in gear. Popped back and for through menus looking for something I missed, didn't change anything, went back into the car and it worked. Only problem now is that I don't have neutral. For my shifter neutral is when no gear buttons are pushed. Not sure how to enable that. If you know, pass the secret on to me (I think GTR had a check box for this.) In the car I turned my head to see how my TrackIR was working. It wasn't. Wanting to experience the first drive with the TrackIR I went back to the menus. There is nothing in there or in the readme about the TrackIR. I found the answer at RSC. You have to map a button to something called "hardware plug in" (or something like that). That button them must be pressed the first time you get into the car to enable TrackIR. Not a good design. You can save your control setup (a good thing), but you have to load it each time (a bad thing). I can't see how to make it the default. I chose the default car and it felt well (but way low on power). That's ok because it is good for learning. As in another post I read, at first it is not evident from the cars handling if this is a front drive car or a rear drive car. I am going to keep my eye on this as I try other cars and get more familiar with the sim. In LFS for example, the difference between front and rear drive cars is very obvious. I did a race of all GT3 cars and had no problems with the AI cars. Unfortunately the default in a race is to have all car classes in the race. This is very hard for the AI to handle. To give the AI a fair chance to be judge, race cars of the same class (until/if this gets fixed in a patch.) I must say I like the graphics (using DX9) and I really like the shadows and lighting. One thing I don't like is that the cars in the rear view mirror look like they are floating above the track. So far I am pleased, but the initial setup was very frustrating. Off to drive some more. Russell

R Keating wrote:

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> Downloaded, installed, and started it up and payed (via credit card)with > no problems. Went through and set up controls and turned off driving > aids and other things to make it more realistic. Got in the car and ... > > Couldn't get the car in gear. My home built h-shifter and 3 pedals were > all mapped correctly but I couldn't get the car in gear. Popped back > and for through menus looking for something I missed, didn't change > anything, went back into the car and it worked. Only problem now is > that I don't have neutral. For my shifter neutral is when no gear > buttons are pushed. Not sure how to enable that. If you know, pass the > secret on to me (I think GTR had a check box for this.)

Check you controller.ini, there's a zero that needs to be changed to a naught. I forget which line, but is obvious when you see it.

Try the open wheel trainer (you also get this without resorting to cheat codes), as it's lap times are comparable to the faster sedans.

"whooo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:uxISe.3413$[email hidden]... > > Check you controller.ini, there's a zero that needs to be changed to a > naught. rotfl But I think I know what he means! An "O" needs to be changed to a "0", right? Or, better still, an "oh" needs to be changed to a zero. I'll tell you this, if you can change a zero to a naught then you must have been given a blood transfusion with some of Albert Einsteins blood! :)

Byron Forbes wrote:

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> "whooo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:uxISe.3413$[email hidden]... > >>Check you controller.ini, there's a zero that needs to be changed to a >>naught. > > > rotfl > > But I think I know what he means! An "O" needs to be changed to a "0", > right? Or, better still, an "oh" needs to be changed to a zero. > > I'll tell you this, if you can change a zero to a naught then you must > have been given a blood transfusion with some of Albert Einsteins blood! :) > >

hehe, yeah: try changing a zero to a one, instead! :)

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> > Couldn't get the car in gear. My home built h-shifter and 3 pedals were > > all mapped correctly but I couldn't get the car in gear. Popped back > > and for through menus looking for something I missed, didn't change > > anything, went back into the car and it worked. Only problem now is > > that I don't have neutral. For my shifter neutral is when no gear > > buttons are pushed. Not sure how to enable that. If you know, pass the > > secret on to me (I think GTR had a check box for this.) > > Check you controller.ini, there's a zero that needs to be changed to a > naught. I forget which line, but is obvious when you see it.

Would love to know what this is if anyone finds it, there is a check box in GTR and GTL for this (and N2003!) but when I spoke to Gjon about it he said that as far as he knew this was not possible and I have had to map a different button to Neutral. He did say it would be added in a future update though. But if there is a controller.ini switch then that might do it, maybe I will do some hunting tonight.. Jon.

Shrapnel wrote:

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>>>Couldn't get the car in gear. My home built h-shifter and 3 pedals were >>>all mapped correctly but I couldn't get the car in gear. Popped back >>>and for through menus looking for something I missed, didn't change >>>anything, went back into the car and it worked. Only problem now is >>>that I don't have neutral. For my shifter neutral is when no gear >>>buttons are pushed. Not sure how to enable that. If you know, pass the >>>secret on to me (I think GTR had a check box for this.) >> >>Check you controller.ini, there's a zero that needs to be changed to a >>naught. I forget which line, but is obvious when you see it. > > > Would love to know what this is if anyone finds it, there is a check box in > GTR and GTL for this (and N2003!) but when I spoke to Gjon about it he said > that as far as he knew this was not possible and I have had to map a > different button to Neutral. > > He did say it would be added in a future update though. > > But if there is a controller.ini switch then that might do it, maybe I will > do some hunting tonight.. > > Jon. > >

It can be done: ____________________________________________________________________________ Gear Select Button Hold="1" // Enable this option if using a gear select device that holds down a joystick button while in a gear and releases all buttons in neutral (such as the Act-Labs USB Shifter) _____________________________________________________________________________ I have an Act-Labs and it works just fine!

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> ____________________________________________________________________________ > > > Gear Select Button Hold="1" // Enable this option if using a gear select > device that holds down a joystick button while in a gear and releases > all buttons in neutral (such as the Act-Labs USB Shifter) > > _____________________________________________________________________________ > > > I have an Act-Labs and it works just fine!

I have neutral now, thanks. After playing around more today, here are a few other things. You can't recalibrate your controls during a race. My brake lost calibration and all I could do was exit the race (DNF) and recalibrate it. It appears that you can't chat unless you are in the car. Someone said they thought this might be a server setting. So in the above case I wanted to tell the others what happened (when they finished racing) and why I got a DNF. Unfortunately there was no way for me to chat with them. The AI keep racing after the checkered flag. Someone said they got a DNF for not returning to the pits after a race. I don't know if that is just on line or on line and off. After the checkered I'd rather not have to race the AI back to the pits. If I can hit escape and not DNF, then I'll just do that. On my Logitech DFP, I can't use the POV to scroll through the LCD options. The cursor seams to jump all over the place. Same happens if I assign the POV selecting the LCD screens. Not sure why. Does an off track put dirt on the tires? Is flat spotting modeled? I think the answer is no to both, but I am bot sure. There is suspension damage though. Hitting the restart button restarts the race, but if you had damage, you still have it. Going to the race screen and pressing the on screen restart button, restarts with the car completely repaired. With the TrackIR and using the same setting I use in other sims, I can't fully see out the sides of the car. Don't know if that is just as far as you can look or if it can be adjusted. It makes for a bigger blind spot though. When I pit, the damage doesn't get fixed and I am not sure how or if you can set up a pit stop on the fly to tell them what to do. The trainers are a lot of fun! Russell

On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 17:03:19 -0500, R Keating <[email hidden]> wrote: >It appears that you can't chat unless you are in the car. Someone said >they thought this might be a server setting. So in the above case I >wanted to tell the others what happened (when they finished racing) and >why I got a DNF. Unfortunately there was no way for me to chat with them. > You can chat outside the car, it's just not obvious how you do it. In the lower left of the monitor screen there is a box labelled chat, at the bottom of that, there is a dark coloured band, click there and you can type chat messages. As I said, not obvious, took me a while to discover this. Peter

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> On Mon, 05 Sep 2005 17:03:19 -0500, R Keating <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >>It appears that you can't chat unless you are in the car. Someone said >>they thought this might be a server setting. So in the above case I >>wanted to tell the others what happened (when they finished racing) and >>why I got a DNF. Unfortunately there was no way for me to chat with them. >> > > > You can chat outside the car, it's just not obvious how you do it. In > the lower left of the monitor screen there is a box labelled chat, at > the bottom of that, there is a dark coloured band, click there and you > can type chat messages. > > As I said, not obvious, took me a while to discover this. > > Peter

I kept clicking in that box thinking that was where it was, but it would just make a sound (error sound) as if I was clicking in a spot that did nothing. The cursor never appeared and if typed, obviously nothing happened. I'll give it another shot next time and see.

On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 08:09:31 -0500, R Keating <[email hidden]> wrote: >I kept clicking in that box thinking that was where it was, but it would >just make a sound (error sound) as if I was clicking in a spot that did >nothing. The cursor never appeared and if typed, obviously nothing >happened. I'll give it another shot next time and see. Just to clarify, not the light coloured box labeled chat but the dark coloured band below. Peter