GPL - Rolex 24 at Daytona track is out!!!

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But doesn't have the chicane at the end of the back straight...I guess that is a fairly recent addition to the road course.... dave henrie "TRUSRS85" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~hg/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18704 > > > http://server43.hypermart.net/gplglory/

"TRUSRS85" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~hg/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18704 > > > http://server43.hypermart.net/gplglory/ Forgive me for picking a nit, but in 1967 the practice of naming races after sponsors had yet to malignantly infect the motor racing world. It's the Daytona road course, and if Rolex wants me to call it otherwise they can bloody well pay me for it. Sorry, I'll get off my old foggy soap box now. KFG

I agree with your sentiment, but with a Daytona Oval available and the Road course it just makes it easier to keep them separate..perhaps the 24hr name could be incorparated in some way. dave henrie "Kevin Gavitt" <[email hidden]> wrote in > > Forgive me for picking a nit, but in 1967 the practice of naming racesafter

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> sponsors had yet to malignantly infect the motor racing world. > > It's the Daytona road course, and if Rolex wants me to call it otherwise > they can bloody well pay me for it. > > Sorry, I'll get off my old foggy soap box now. > > KFG > >

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I totally agree...I guess the designer didn't realize that there are other races at the daytona road course...oh well. JB Kevin Gavitt wrote in message <217Y6.11245$[email hidden]>...

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> >"TRUSRS85" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:[email hidden]... >> http://dynamic2.gamespy.com/~hg/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=18704 >> >> >> http://server43.hypermart.net/gplglory/ > >Forgive me for picking a nit, but in 1967 the practice of naming races

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>sponsors had yet to malignantly infect the motor racing world. > >It's the Daytona road course, and if Rolex wants me to call it otherwise >they can bloody well pay me for it. > >Sorry, I'll get off my old foggy soap box now. > >KFG > >

Try it again. I couldn't get it earlier, but it just worked. Jerry Morelock "Txl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:6c8Y6.91$[email hidden]...

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the cones are ugly....... That is about the only thing I don't like! Thank you! Sudesh "chainbreaker" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:sM8Y6.173203$[email hidden]...

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the cones are ugly....... That is about the only thing I don't like! Thank you! Sudesh

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> Try it again. I couldn't get it earlier, but it just worked. > Jerry Morelock > > link is down...

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Blimey - does the US really name the *tracks* after sponsors, and not just the races? I'm not sure how "Marmite Silverstone" or summat would go down here... :-) -- David. (GPLRank handicap -5.92; Monsters of GPLRank h/cap +272.44) The GPL Scrapyard: http://scrapyard.9ug.com "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh.

David, Havent you ever heard of all the famous tracks we 'yanks' have here? Budweiser Booze Run? Viagra Limp Rock? Hershey Highway Enduro? and so many more.. hahaha "David Buttery" wrote:

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| Blimey - does the US really name the *tracks* after sponsors, and not | just the races? I'm not sure how "Marmite Silverstone" or summat would | go down here... :-) | | -- | David. (GPLRank handicap -5.92; Monsters of GPLRank h/cap +272.44) | The GPL Scrapyard: http://scrapyard.9ug.com | "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, | really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh.

"David Buttery" wrote... > Blimey - does the US really name the *tracks* after sponsors, and not > just the races? I'm not sure how "Marmite Silverstone" or summat would > go down here... :-) >It's only a matter of time. Tony Whitley Currently reading "No Logo" by Naomi Klein and getting more angry and depressed by the minute...

Actually, the U.S. has TWO tracks that are sponsor-named: 1. Charlotte Motor Speedway is now Lowe's Motor Speedway at Charlotte. Lowe's is a damn home-improvement store. 2. Laguna Seca Raceway is now the Mazda Raceway at Laguna Seca. I'm sure we all know what Mazda is... Personally, I think it sucks ass, or arse for my brothers across the pond... SD

Of course everybody but the announcers (who aren't allowed to) still calls these tracks Charlotte and Laguna Seca, and probably always will. Racing is just catching up with the times. Almost every baseball, football, basketball and hockey facility in North America is named after the major sponsor. Here's your choice: a sponsor-named track that is still there, or a subdivision where the track used to be because the operators ran out of money. I live in British Columbia. We used to have a great road track called Westwood. There are only houses there now :( "Sundown" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Actually, the U.S. has TWO tracks that are sponsor-named: > > 1. Charlotte Motor Speedway is now Lowe's Motor Speedway at Charlotte. > Lowe's is a damn home-improvement store. > > 2. Laguna Seca Raceway is now the Mazda Raceway at Laguna Seca. I'm surewe > all know what Mazda is... > > Personally, I think it sucks ass, or arse for my brothers across thepond... > > SD > >

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> > Actually, the U.S. has TWO tracks that are sponsor-named: > > 1. Charlotte Motor Speedway is now Lowe's Motor Speedway at Charlotte. > Lowe's is a damn home-improvement store. > > 2. Laguna Seca Raceway is now the Mazda Raceway at Laguna Seca. I'm sure we > all know what Mazda is... > > Personally, I think it sucks ass, or arse for my brothers across the pond... > > SD

Yep, it's The Corporate States of America. >:-( -- Fester

-- "Rob Adams" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:2rpY6.48405$[email hidden]... > > I live in British Columbia. We used to have a great road track called > Westwood. There are only houses there now :( > There used to be a circuit near here called Westmead (where they held F1 races in 1961/2), now there is an industrial estate! Chris -- Simbokza GPL FD League www.simbokza.com

In California, there was a road course track named Riverside, which is now a subdivision ....

Tony Whitley <[email hidden]. c o . u k> wrote on 21 Jun 2001: > It's only a matter of time. > > Tony Whitley > Currently reading "No Logo" by Naomi Klein and getting more angry > and depressed by the minute... I take it you noticed that "No Logo" had been registered as a trademark? Irony upon irony... -- David. (GPLRank handicap -5.92; Monsters of GPLRank h/cap +272.44) The GPL Scrapyard: http://scrapyard.9ug.com "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh.

Rob Adams <[email hidden]> wrote on 21 Jun 2001: > Of course everybody but the announcers (who aren't allowed to) > still calls these tracks Charlotte and Laguna Seca, and probably > always will. <snip> Actually, I suppose we motorsport fans are quite lucky. Look at football: Bolton Wanderers' ground is "The Reebok Stadium", and has been from the start - there's never been a non-sponsored name for it at all. And one of the Welsh teams rejoices in the name "Total Network Solutions FC". Gets the juices flowing, eh? On the other hand, how many cricket fans say "The Foster's Oval"? Somewhere between none and none[sic], I'd say. -- David. (GPLRank handicap -5.92; Monsters of GPLRank h/cap +272.44) The GPL Scrapyard: http://scrapyard.9ug.com "After all, a mere thousand yards - such a harmless little knoll, really" - Raymond Mays on Shelsley Walsh.

Let us allow Americans name their tracks and races with sponsor names! I guess it belongs to their culture. Why not a "Mickey Mouse Oval", "Mac Donald's Championship", "Road Coca Cola"? If the races are good, who cares of the names? But let them NEVER EVER name Monaco "Chanel Tube", let them NEVER call Monza "Ring Armani", let them NEVER call Hockenheim "Agfa Racing Circuit"... If they some day create an F1 track here in Finland, which I doubt, I sincerely hope, it will NOT be called "Nokia Ringing"! ;-) Arto PS: Rolex Daytona is a wonderful GPL track! No harm to me from "Rolex"! ;) -- -------------------- [email hidden] http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/

On Thu, 21 Jun 2001 16:54:27 GMT, Uncle Fester <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> >Sundown wrote: >> >> Actually, the U.S. has TWO tracks that are sponsor-named: >> >> 1. Charlotte Motor Speedway is now Lowe's Motor Speedway at Charlotte. >> Lowe's is a damn home-improvement store. >> >> 2. Laguna Seca Raceway is now the Mazda Raceway at Laguna Seca. I'm sure we >> all know what Mazda is... >> >> Personally, I think it sucks ass, or arse for my brothers across the pond... >> >> SD > > > >Yep, it's The Corporate States of America. >:-(

Why the :( ? The US of A is a capitalist union. What do people think that means? Yes, corporations run the country. And thank God it's not small business or we would be lucky to have 400 baud modems right now (and pay $50 a month for the line). RB

To further confuse you all. I beleive the track is offically known as Daytona International Speedway. But the 24 sportscar race is known as: The Rolex 24hours at Daytona. And this is a part of the Grand Am racing series...partially owned by Nascar and the series recently signed a sponsorship deal so that the official name is the Rolex Sports Car Series of the Grand American Racing Association. Do we Yanks have a way with words or what??? dave henrie "Arto Wikla" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:wikla.993168288@kanasaari...

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> Let us allow Americans name their tracks and races with sponsor names! > I guess it belongs to their culture. Why not a "Mickey Mouse Oval", > "Mac Donald's Championship", "Road Coca Cola"? If the races are good, > who cares of the names? But let them NEVER EVER name Monaco "Chanel Tube", > let them NEVER call Monza "Ring Armani", let them NEVER call Hockenheim > "Agfa Racing Circuit"... > > If they some day create an F1 track here in Finland, which I doubt, > I sincerely hope, it will NOT be called "Nokia Ringing"! ;-) > > Arto > > PS: Rolex Daytona is a wonderful GPL track! No harm to me from "Rolex"! ;) > -- > -------------------- > [email hidden] > http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/wikla/

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> > On Thu, 21 Jun 2001 16:54:27 GMT, Uncle Fester <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >Yep, it's The Corporate States of America. >:-( > > Why the :( ? The US of A is a capitalist union. What do people think > that means? > > Yes, corporations run the country. And thank God it's not small > business or we would be lucky to have 400 baud modems right now (and > pay $50 a month for the line).

Because many people, myself definitely included, are sick of having corporate advertisements everywhere you look. Once upon a time, it was thought of as an HONOR to have a building or what-have-you named in your behalf. Nowadays they (corporations)act as though it's some God-Given Right to BUY such things. We'd also be a lot better off without them. You get nothing, lest they also profit. And they will profit more than you. Qualifies as a leech upon society to me. Charlotte Motor Speedway forever. Screw Lowes. -- Fester

Thought I'd answer your points more fully. :-) Razorback wrote: > > Why the :( ? The US of A is a capitalist union. What do people think > that means? Nothing to be proud of. Read your history books & also look around you. Let's say that many of those who are of Native American descent, (I'm 15%, my wife is about 80%), view this not as a government but as an occupation force. > Yes, corporations run the country. And thank God it's not small > business or we would be lucky to have 400 baud modems right now (and > pay $50 a month for the line). Flatout BullShit. If not for the perceived threat of Government intervention, corporations would rape you many times worse than this! -- Fester

In article <[email hidden]>, Uncle Fester <[email hidden]> writes: >Nothing to be proud of. Read your history books & also look around >you. Let's say that many of those who are of Native American descent, >(I'm 15%, my wife is about 80%), view this not as a government but as an >occupation force. Yeah, I'm Native American too, I was born in Baltimore. As a matter of fact, about one third of the people on the planet are Native American. Don McCorkle

Didn't 'Native Americans' walk here from China?? Didn't 'non native Americans' sail here? Seems to me there are no real 'natives' just those folks who got here earlier than others. And yes they were treated very badly by the later arriving waves of people. dave henrie "Woodie 83" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> In article <[email hidden]>, > Uncle Fester <[email hidden]> writes: > > >Nothing to be proud of. Read your history books & also look around > >you. Let's say that many of those who are of Native American descent, > >(I'm 15%, my wife is about 80%), view this not as a government but as an > >occupation force. > > Yeah, I'm Native American too, I was born in Baltimore. As a matter of

fact, > about one third of the people on the planet are Native American. > > > Don McCorkle >

If the really old history is correct Dave H you are also correct!! [Like going via geology & anthropology books] If you believe in these folks then everything started in South East Africa! Just a tini tid bit of useless knowledge. I am just a plethora of useless knowledge...hahaha :-) Also my niece is an anthropologist..lol Cheers, 2nd to #1 Know it All on RAS aka Thom_j. :o)~ "Dave Henrie" wrote: | Didn't 'Native Americans' walk here from China?? | Didn't 'non native Americans' sail here? Seems to me there are no real | 'natives' just those folks who got here earlier than others. And yesthey

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| were treated very badly by the later arriving waves of people. | dave henrie | "Woodie 83" wrote: | > In article <[email hidden]>, | > Uncle Fester writes: | > | > >Nothing to be proud of. Read your history books & also look around | > >you. Let's say that many of those who are of Native American descent, | > >(I'm 15%, my wife is about 80%), view this not as a government but as

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| > >occupation force. | > | > Yeah, I'm Native American too, I was born in Baltimore. As a matter of | fact, | > about one third of the people on the planet are Native American. | > | > | > Don McCorkle

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> > In article <[email hidden]>, > Uncle Fester <[email hidden]> writes: > > >Nothing to be proud of. Read your history books & also look around > >you. Let's say that many of those who are of Native American descent, > >(I'm 15%, my wife is about 80%), view this not as a government but as an > >occupation force. > > Yeah, I'm Native American too, I was born in Baltimore. As a matter of fact, > about one third of the people on the planet are Native American.

I rest my case. Need I say more? -- Fester

Dave Henrie wrote: > > Didn't 'Native Americans' walk here from China?? > Didn't 'non native Americans' sail here? Seems to me there are no real > 'natives' just those folks who got here earlier than others. And yes they > were treated very badly by the later arriving waves of people. Correct on all counts Dave. The Europeans didn't "discover" America, they just got lost & stumbled upon it. And then invaded it. :-) -- Fester

Um, that would be 2 billion. One third of the people on the planet are Indian (i.e. from India) or Chinese. Native Americans (however you define it) are half a billion at the outside. "Woodie 83" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> In article <[email hidden]>, > Uncle Fester <[email hidden]> writes: > > >Nothing to be proud of. Read your history books & also look around > >you. Let's say that many of those who are of Native American descent, > >(I'm 15%, my wife is about 80%), view this not as a government but as an > >occupation force. > > Yeah, I'm Native American too, I was born in Baltimore. As a matter of

fact, > about one third of the people on the planet are Native American. > > > Don McCorkle >

Yea UF wasnt Columbus high on LSD during that trip?? ..:-) "Uncle Fester" wrote: | Correct on all counts Dave. The Europeans didn't "discover" America, | they just got lost & stumbled upon it. And then invaded it. :-) | -- | Fester --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.262 / Virus Database: 132 - Release Date: 6/12/2001

Uncle Fester wrote:

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> > Woodie 83 wrote: > > > > In article <[email hidden]>, > > Uncle Fester <[email hidden]> writes: > > > > >Nothing to be proud of. Read your history books & also look around > > >you. Let's say that many of those who are of Native American descent, > > >(I'm 15%, my wife is about 80%), view this not as a government but as an > > >occupation force. > > > > Yeah, I'm Native American too, I was born in Baltimore. As a matter of fact, > > about one third of the people on the planet are Native American. > > I rest my case. Need I say more?

LOL, he's from Baltimore....:-))) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy <-not a native American by any definition of the term, unless of course we take up the discussion of which Europeans actually stumbled upon America first, GO LEIF ERIKSON ! :-), in which case this issue will get really muddy http://www.theuspits.com "A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke" --Groucho Marx--

"Thom j." wrote: > > Yea UF wasnt Columbus high on LSD during that trip?? ..:-) ROTFLMAO! Yeah, something like that. <g> -- Fester

Goy Larsen wrote: > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy <-not a native American by any definition of the term, > unless of course we take up the discussion of which Europeans actually > stumbled upon America first, GO LEIF ERIKSON ! :-), in which case this > issue will get really muddy You're killing me, Goy!! Hey- I heard a rumor Leif was your older brother. Any truth to this? :-)) -- Fester (Goy's post didn't show up with the @Home newsserver. Inet doesn't allow posting, so this is not inserted correctly in the thread. Forgive me. :-) )

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> > Goy Larsen wrote: > > > > Beers and cheers > > (uncle) Goy <-not a native American by any definition of the term, > > unless of course we take up the discussion of which Europeans actually > > stumbled upon America first, GO LEIF ERIKSON ! :-), in which case this > > issue will get really muddy > > You're killing me, Goy!! Hey- I heard a rumor Leif was your older > brother. Any truth to this? :-))

Younger brother actually.....the reason we have different last names is because *his* parents were named Erikson.... > (Goy's post didn't show up with the @Home newsserver. Inet doesn't > allow posting, so this is not inserted correctly in the thread. Forgive > me. :-) ) Mmmm, okay then Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com "A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke" --Groucho Marx--

Same here on my @home.....I see plenty of Goy's messages in this thread, but the message ThomJ was replying to...EES NOT DER.... dave henrie "Goy Larsen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Uncle Fester wrote: > > > > Goy Larsen wrote: > > > > > > Beers and cheers > > > (uncle) Goy <-not a native American by any definition of the term, > > > unless of course we take up the discussion of which Europeans actually > > > stumbled upon America first, GO LEIF ERIKSON ! :-), in which case this > > > issue will get really muddy > > > > You're killing me, Goy!! Hey- I heard a rumor Leif was your older > > brother. Any truth to this? :-)) > > Younger brother actually.....the reason we have different last names is > because *his* parents were named Erikson.... > > > (Goy's post didn't show up with the @Home newsserver. Inet doesn't > > allow posting, so this is not inserted correctly in the thread. Forgive > > me. :-) ) > > Mmmm, okay then > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy > > http://www.theuspits.com > > "A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke" > --Groucho Marx--

what was the URL again... :) Lief Erikson, any chance he was just sponsored by that moble phone joint? Goy Larsen <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> Uncle Fester wrote: > > > > Woodie 83 wrote: > > > > > > In article <[email hidden]>, > > > Uncle Fester <[email hidden]> writes: > > > > > > >Nothing to be proud of. Read your history books & also look around > > > >you. Let's say that many of those who are of Native American

descent, > > > >(I'm 15%, my wife is about 80%), view this not as a government but asan > > > >occupation force. > > > > > > Yeah, I'm Native American too, I was born in Baltimore. As a matterof fact,

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> > > about one third of the people on the planet are Native American. > > > > I rest my case. Need I say more? > > LOL, he's from Baltimore....:-))) > > > Beers and cheers > (uncle) Goy <-not a native American by any definition of the term, > unless of course we take up the discussion of which Europeans actually > stumbled upon America first, GO LEIF ERIKSON ! :-), in which case this > issue will get really muddy > > http://www.theuspits.com > > "A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke" > --Groucho Marx-- >

I thought he was in High Chapparal? :-) "Kai Fuller" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Dk8_6.100288$[email hidden]... > what was the URL again... > > :) > > > Lief Erikson, any chance he was just sponsored by that moble phone joint?

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>Of course everybody but the announcers (who aren't allowed to) still calls >these tracks Charlotte and Laguna Seca, and probably always will. > >Racing is just catching up with the times. Almost every baseball, football, >basketball and hockey facility in North America is named after the major >sponsor. >

I don't see how the stands can stay packed, TV revenues are sky-high, but the stadium owners need subsidies from corporations? It might be ok if the ticket prices went down because the teams get the extra money. But, prices go up almost every year, to the point where the average family almost can't afford to go to a sports event anymore. If the owners would stop caving in to the greedy athletes, the problem would go away(or at least be smaller). *No one* deserves multi-millons a year just to play a stick-and-ball game...<sigh> Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +366.59... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <[email hidden]>, "Sundown" <[email hidden]> writes: >1. Charlotte Motor Speedway is now Lowe's Motor Speedway at Charlotte. >Lowe's is a damn home-improvement store. > >2. Laguna Seca Raceway is now the Mazda Raceway at Laguna Seca. I'm sure we >all know what Mazda is... > Shit, if Laguna Seca had to become a corporate whore, couldn't they at least have found an AMERICAN corporation??? Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +366.59... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

This whole insane inflation is going to have to end at some point and it probably will end the same way the dot-com insanity ended, by a whole bunch of people all losing a ton of money at the same time. But before that happens a lot of revered sports teams are going to disappear (like the Montreal Canadians for example). This type of thing doesn't happen to ordinary businesses, it just happens to sports (because investors like to be associated with sports; it makes them feel young and cool) and high tech (because investors think high tech is somehow "different" than other business). If only salaries were tied to GPL prowess. At least I'd be in the middle salary range <g> "EldredP" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I don't see how the stands can stay packed, TV revenues are sky-high, butthe > stadium owners need subsidies from corporations? It might be ok if theticket > prices went down because the teams get the extra money. But, prices go up > almost every year, to the point where the average family almost can'tafford to > go to a sports event anymore. If the owners would stop caving in to thegreedy > athletes, the problem would go away(or at least be smaller). *No one*deserves > multi-millons a year just to play a stick-and-ball game...<sigh>

Colin Harris wrote: > I thought he was in High Chapparal? No, that was Jim Hall. ;-) Dave Ewing

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> "Kai Fuller" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:Dk8_6.100288$[email hidden]... > > what was the URL again... > > > > :) > > > > > > Lief Erikson, any chance he was just sponsored by that moble phone joint?

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> In article <[email hidden]>, "Sundown" > <[email hidden]> writes: >> >>2. Laguna Seca Raceway is now the Mazda Raceway at Laguna Seca. I'm sure we >>all know what Mazda is... > > Shit, if Laguna Seca had to become a corporate whore, couldn't they at least > have found an AMERICAN corporation???

They did. Mazda is owned by Ford. Marc

Kai Fuller wrote: > > what was the URL again... > > :) > > Lief Erikson, any chance he was just sponsored by that moble phone joint? Could be, I'll ask when I run into him next time :-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com http://www.teammirage.com "A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke" --Groucho Marx--

David Ewing wrote: > > Colin Harris wrote: > > > I thought he was in High Chapparal? > > No, that was Jim Hall. ;-) ROFL, wonder how far this thing will go.....:-) Beers and cheers (uncle) Goy http://www.theuspits.com http://www.teammirage.com "A woman is an occasional pleasure but a cigar is always a smoke" --Groucho Marx--

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>> Shit, if Laguna Seca had to become a corporate whore, couldn't they at >least >> have found an AMERICAN corporation??? > >They did. Mazda is owned by Ford. > > Marc >

Doh! I didn't realize that. I know they jointly built the 1991 Escort(of which I owned one). Maybe that experience was so traumatic that I blocked out the connection....<g> Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +366.59... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.