GPL: Graphics Cards

I'm currently running GPL on a PIII/667 system, equipped with a low-end nVidia Vanta graphics card. I'm becoming increasingly frustrated with the glitchy OpenGL performance at 640x480, and the game's unplayable at any higher resolution. I've installed the GPL 1.2 patch, and both the OpenGL and Direct3D enhancements. I'm therefore looking to replace the Vanta with a cheap, readily available card which will run GPL well at around 1024x768. I'm not interested in Quake, Half-Life, etc - my only concern is that it runs GPL and occasionally GP3 to a good standard. GeForce is the obvious way to go, but I have a feeling that such a powerful card would be overkill for my fairly simple needs! Many thanks for any suggestions.

> GeForce is the obvious way to go, but I have a feeling that such apowerful > card would be overkill for my fairly simple needs! > I doubt it. I have a backup P2/400 machine with a TNT2 card in it that runs GPL acceptably well with both OGL and D3D. You'll be amazed at the improvement if you plug in a Geforce2, or even a GF2MX. With the prices dropping, I'd get at least the GF2, though, if not an Ultra. You can always use it later, and IMO your machine is more vidcard-limited than CPU-limited. Jerry Morelock

The GeForce2 MX 32 mb card is an inexpensive solution for you, and should run GPL in d3d just fine. I have the Hercules Prophet2 MX and am very pleased with it. Don Burnette "Roger Middleton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Bt1Z6.7972$[email hidden]... > I'm currently running GPL on a PIII/667 system, equipped with a low-end > nVidia Vanta graphics card. > > I'm becoming increasingly frustrated with the glitchy OpenGL performanceat > 640x480, and the game's unplayable at any higher resolution. I'veinstalled > the GPL 1.2 patch, and both the OpenGL and Direct3D enhancements. > > I'm therefore looking to replace the Vanta with a cheap, readily available > card which will run GPL well at around 1024x768. I'm not interested in > Quake, Half-Life, etc - my only concern is that it runs GPL andoccasionally > GP3 to a good standard. > > GeForce is the obvious way to go, but I have a feeling that such apowerful

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> card would be overkill for my fairly simple needs! > > Many thanks for any suggestions. > > > >

Thanks for your replies. How about a Matrox Millennium G450? I used to have a G400 which ran GPL beautifully at 1024x768 - this time, I need a dual head card, and this is 40 GBP cheaper than the equivalent dual head GeForce MX. Any thoughts appreciated. Roger Middleton <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Bt1Z6.7972$[email hidden]... > I'm currently running GPL on a PIII/667 system, equipped with a low-end > nVidia Vanta graphics card. > > I'm becoming increasingly frustrated with the glitchy OpenGL performanceat > 640x480, and the game's unplayable at any higher resolution. I'veinstalled > the GPL 1.2 patch, and both the OpenGL and Direct3D enhancements. > > I'm therefore looking to replace the Vanta with a cheap, readily available > card which will run GPL well at around 1024x768. I'm not interested in > Quake, Half-Life, etc - my only concern is that it runs GPL andoccasionally > GP3 to a good standard. > > GeForce is the obvious way to go, but I have a feeling that such apowerful

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> card would be overkill for my fairly simple needs! > > Many thanks for any suggestions. > > > >

On Sat, 23 Jun 2001 15:09:18 +0100, "Roger Middleton" <[email hidden]> wrote: >I'm therefore looking to replace the Vanta with a cheap, readily available >card which will run GPL well at around 1024x768. I'm not interested in The Voodoo 3 cards are still readily available, and pretty cheap these days. That's what I went to when I finally decided that I needed to replace my Rendition-based card.

Roger, I had a V3 3000 and decided to upgrade to a GF2 GTS 32megs. I'm very happy with it. I run GPL 36 fps at 1152x864 (PIII 600). The V3 3000 was nice for GPL but not for N4. Much better frame rates with the GF2. Don't spend your money on a GF3. It's a great card but from what people told me you really need to upgrade your system to really appreciate it. You be able to find one for under $200 US . I went with the Elsa because of the video in/out option. Good luck Chris "Roger Middleton" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Bt1Z6.7972$[email hidden]... > I'm currently running GPL on a PIII/667 system, equipped with a low-end > nVidia Vanta graphics card. > > I'm becoming increasingly frustrated with the glitchy OpenGL performanceat > 640x480, and the game's unplayable at any higher resolution. I'veinstalled > the GPL 1.2 patch, and both the OpenGL and Direct3D enhancements. > > I'm therefore looking to replace the Vanta with a cheap, readily available > card which will run GPL well at around 1024x768. I'm not interested in > Quake, Half-Life, etc - my only concern is that it runs GPL andoccasionally > GP3 to a good standard. > > GeForce is the obvious way to go, but I have a feeling that such apowerful

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> card would be overkill for my fairly simple needs! > > Many thanks for any suggestions. > > > >

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > > The Voodoo 3 cards are still readily available, and pretty cheap these > days. That's what I went to when I finally decided that I needed to > replace my Rendition-based card. > I have three machines ... all with 3dfx cards. I have just picked up a Voodoo3 3000 PCI for 35UKP (New) Now that is a deal! -- Mick

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> In article <[email hidden]>, > [email hidden] says... > > > > The Voodoo 3 cards are still readily available, and pretty cheap these > > days. That's what I went to when I finally decided that I needed to > > replace my Rendition-based card. > > > > I have three machines ... all with 3dfx cards. I have just picked up a > Voodoo3 3000 PCI for 35UKP (New) Now that is a deal!

Can I ask where you got it from? Do you have a web address? ;)

Check out www.newegg.com for some good prices (especially on the OEM cards). Paul On Sat, 23 Jun 2001, Roger Middleton wrote:

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> I'm currently running GPL on a PIII/667 system, equipped with a low-end > nVidia Vanta graphics card. > > I'm becoming increasingly frustrated with the glitchy OpenGL performance at > 640x480, and the game's unplayable at any higher resolution. I've installed > the GPL 1.2 patch, and both the OpenGL and Direct3D enhancements. > > I'm therefore looking to replace the Vanta with a cheap, readily available > card which will run GPL well at around 1024x768. I'm not interested in > Quake, Half-Life, etc - my only concern is that it runs GPL and occasionally > GP3 to a good standard. > > GeForce is the obvious way to go, but I have a feeling that such a powerful > card would be overkill for my fairly simple needs! > > Many thanks for any suggestions. > > > > > >

"Don Burnette" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:d22Z6.7434$[email hidden]... > The GeForce2 MX 32 mb card is an inexpensive solution for you, and should > run GPL in d3d just fine. > I have the Hercules Prophet2 MX and am very pleased with it. > > Don Burnette Good, have I got a question for you, then... I've been happy running GPL on a voodoo3-3000, my machine being a 633mhz celeron overclocked to 950. It's stable as anything, runs all day, etc etc but I've been eyeing screenshots of GPL with FSAA and today I finally took the plunge. I picked up a 64mb Geforce 2 MX, after reading all kinds of comparisons with V5-5500 and the V3 I already own. I figured even if it was the same speed, the FSAA alone would be worth the (small) price. Anyway, installed the card. Downloaded the latest drivers. Works fine on SCGT but GPL now gives me 15 FPS using the D3D rasteriser instead of a rock solid 36fps with the V3. I turned FSAA on & off, and I've fiddled with all the settings in the nVidia control panel but there must be something I'm still doing wrong. I mean, this thing is slower than the Voodoo I in my old Celeron 300a machine. So, does anyone have the definitive tweak? I've seen plenty of posts like yours, saying it's smooth, runs fast, high FPS, better than a V3. What else could the problem be? Many thanks for any help Simon Haynes --- Author of 'Hal Spacejock' - ISBN 1-877034-00-2 "It's STAR WARS meets MINDER in a fun-filled dash through hyperspace and beyond..." Available now from http://www.spacejock.com