GPL Rank Question

My current GPLRank is 91.71, which I guess that I am happy with because there are a number of tracks that I have not worked hard at yet (most notably Nurburgring). I am within 107% on all tracks but the Ring, and under Papy's time on Monza. But... My Watkin's Glen time is currently slightly over at 1.07.09. In an online race vs a friend I managed a 1.06.83 during practice (my first and only sub 07), but my computer crashed before I could exit cleanly, meaning that the time was not saved to my driver.ini! I have tried to duplicate my time on track, but keep coming ever so close. Is there any way of editing the driver.ini to get that time "back"? I even have a replay that was saved before I crashed to prove that I did the time. Or is the number to the left of the time a code that prohibits me from editing? Thanks... Muzza

Murray, How did you save the replay if your computer crashed? Do you mean you came off the track, saved the replay & before you could get out of GPL it crashed? Just curious.. Cheers Thom_j. "Murray Shields" wrote: | My current GPLRank is 91.71, which I guess that I am happy with because | there are a number of tracks that I have not worked hard at yet (most | notably Nurburgring). I am within 107% on all tracks but the Ring, andunder | Papy's time on Monza. | | But... | | My Watkin's Glen time is currently slightly over at 1.07.09. In an online | race vs a friend I managed a 1.06.83 during practice (my first and onlysub | 07), but my computer crashed before I could exit cleanly, meaning that the | time was not saved to my driver.ini! | | I have tried to duplicate my time on track, but keep coming ever so close. | Is there any way of editing the driver.ini to get that time "back"? I even | have a replay that was saved before I crashed to prove that I did thetime.

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| | Or is the number to the left of the time a code that prohibits me from | editing? | | Thanks... | | Muzza | |

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"Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:jxk07.427$[email hidden]... > Murray, > How did you save the replay if your computer crashed? Do you mean you > came off the track, saved the replay & before you could get out of GPL it > crashed? Just curious.. Cheers Thom_j. Was playing online with a friend at the time and I had some serious crashing problems (solved completely now by shutting down my ZoneAlarm firewall whilst playing on the net). It would crash entering or leaving race mode (but not always). Finished qualifying, looked at my times, went "WOOHOO!", saved the cut replay, then crashed when I tried to join the race that was about to start... :-(

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> "Murray Shields" wrote: > | My current GPLRank is 91.71, which I guess that I am happy with because > | there are a number of tracks that I have not worked hard at yet (most > | notably Nurburgring). I am within 107% on all tracks but the Ring, and > under > | Papy's time on Monza. > | > | But... > | > | My Watkin's Glen time is currently slightly over at 1.07.09. In an

online > | race vs a friend I managed a 1.06.83 during practice (my first and only > sub > | 07), but my computer crashed before I could exit cleanly, meaning thatthe > | time was not saved to my driver.ini! > | > | I have tried to duplicate my time on track, but keep coming ever soclose. > | Is there any way of editing the driver.ini to get that time "back"? Ieven

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> | have a replay that was saved before I crashed to prove that I did the > time. > | > | Or is the number to the left of the time a code that prohibits me from > | editing? > | > | Thanks... > | > | Muzza > | > | > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.262 / Virus Database: 132 - Release Date: 6/12/2001 > >

"O" ok I see now!!! Bummer!! "Murray Shields" wrote" | Was playing online with a friend at the time and I had some seriouscrashing

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| problems (solved completely now by shutting down my ZoneAlarm firewall | whilst playing on the net). It would crash entering or leaving race mode | (but not always). | | Finished qualifying, looked at my times, went "WOOHOO!", saved the cut | replay, then crashed when I tried to join the race that was about to | start... :-(

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>My Watkin's Glen time is currently slightly over at 1.07.09. In an online >race vs a friend I managed a 1.06.83 during practice (my first and only sub >07), but my computer crashed before I could exit cleanly, meaning that the >time was not saved to my driver.ini! > >I have tried to duplicate my time on track, but keep coming ever so close. >Is there any way of editing the driver.ini to get that time "back"? I even >have a replay that was saved before I crashed to prove that I did the time.

Hi Murray. The answer is a definite no. As far as GPLRank is concerned, editing your player.ini file to do anything except delete bogus/warped times is seriously frowned upon. Further, just because you have a replay doesn't insure that the time is valid. It's entirely possible to save a replay of a warped lap, it can be difficult to tell it it's warped or not, and we don't want to get into the viewing of replays except to verify new world records. The best hotlap site there ever was, Schubi's, only accepted laps done in training mode to ensure that it wasn't done online and therefore couldn't be warped. If you did it once Murray, you can do it again. Get your self in training mode and set a new PB. -- Don Scurlock Vancouver,B.C. GPLRank -14.06 MonsterRank 104.55 Come see how you rank, at the GPLRank site http://gplrank.ringlord.com/

Editing your driver.ini to add a lap that u think should be there isnt really allowed ...the theory is that if youve done it before then u can do it again. If gplrank allowed .ini editing it could be hard to police. srry dan Murray Shields <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:SSi07.179360$[email hidden]... > > I have tried to duplicate my time on track, but keep coming ever so close. > Is there any way of editing the driver.ini to get that time "back"? I even > have a replay that was saved before I crashed to prove that I did thetime.

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> > > > Thanks... > > Muzza > >

As several have already stated Murray, if you can do it once should be able to do it again or come damm close!! So fire'up your GPL if that time means so much to you & beat that stinkin' 1:06 with a 1:05.... :-) Get really PO'ed and kick azz!! It dun` woi'rked fer` me..[just not in WG yet..lol] Good Luck Thom_j. "Murray Shields" wrote: | My current GPLRank is 91.71, which I guess that I am happy with because | there are a number of tracks that I have not worked hard at yet (most | notably Nurburgring). I am within 107% on all tracks but the Ring, andunder | Papy's time on Monza. | But... | My Watkin's Glen time is currently slightly over at 1.07.09. In an online | race vs a friend I managed a 1.06.83 during practice (my first and onlysub | 07), but my computer crashed before I could exit cleanly, meaning that the | time was not saved to my driver.ini! | | I have tried to duplicate my time on track, but keep coming ever so close. | Is there any way of editing the driver.ini to get that time "back"? I even | have a replay that was saved before I crashed to prove that I did thetime. | | Or is the number to the left of the time a code that prohibits me from | editing? | Thanks... | Muzza --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.262 / Virus Database: 132 - Release Date: 6/12/2001

Thanks to all who replied! I understand that it is frowned upon (I do not want to cheat) but I beat Papy's time and I just can't show it... An I assure you, I have been trying to do it again... :-( Lap after lap in the low 1.07's, but only once ever below (my second fastest and the time in GPL Rank is 1.07.09). I am very close on a number of circuits (0.09 behind on Silverstone, for example) but sometimes a margin like that *seems* impossible. Of course, the biggest thing that I can do to improve my GPL Rank is to spend a month at the 'Ring. Muzza Oh well, it looks like I am going to have "Murray Shields" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:SSi07.179360$[email hidden]... > My current GPLRank is 91.71, which I guess that I am happy with because > there are a number of tracks that I have not worked hard at yet (most > notably Nurburgring). I am within 107% on all tracks but the Ring, andunder > Papy's time on Monza. > > But... > > My Watkin's Glen time is currently slightly over at 1.07.09. In an online > race vs a friend I managed a 1.06.83 during practice (my first and onlysub > 07), but my computer crashed before I could exit cleanly, meaning that the > time was not saved to my driver.ini! > > I have tried to duplicate my time on track, but keep coming ever so close. > Is there any way of editing the driver.ini to get that time "back"? I even > have a replay that was saved before I crashed to prove that I did thetime.

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> > Or is the number to the left of the time a code that prohibits me from > editing? > > Thanks... > > Muzza > >

It is possible to save a replay of a warped lap...true...but it is also possible for your player.ini to automatically save the time of your warped lap...I see how you don't want people editing the ini file, but I think his time is pretty valid...too bad GPL doesn't save your best laps before you exit manually. JB Don Scurlock <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:90D364ECFdscurlock@news... > [email hidden] (Murray Shields) wrote in > <SSi07.179360$[email hidden]>: > > > >My Watkin's Glen time is currently slightly over at 1.07.09. In an online > >race vs a friend I managed a 1.06.83 during practice (my first and onlysub > >07), but my computer crashed before I could exit cleanly, meaning thatthe > >time was not saved to my driver.ini! > > > >I have tried to duplicate my time on track, but keep coming ever soclose. > >Is there any way of editing the driver.ini to get that time "back"? Ieven > >have a replay that was saved before I crashed to prove that I did thetime. > > > Hi Murray. The answer is a definite no. As far as GPLRank is concerned,editing > your player.ini file to do anything except delete bogus/warped times is > seriously frowned upon. Further, just because you have a replay doesn'tinsure > that the time is valid. It's entirely possible to save a replay of awarped > lap, it can be difficult to tell it it's warped or not, and we don't wantto > get into the viewing of replays except to verify new world records. Thebest > hotlap site there ever was, Schubi's, only accepted laps done in trainingmode > to ensure that it wasn't done online and therefore couldn't be warped. Ifyou > did it once Murray, you can do it again. Get your self in training modeand set

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> a new PB. > > > -- > Don Scurlock > Vancouver,B.C. > > GPLRank -14.06 > MonsterRank 104.55 > > Come see how you rank, at the GPLRank site > http://gplrank.ringlord.com/

Well that is a good lesson for us all....whenEVER you have a time you want to save....exit...properly. You can boot right back up and get into the next race... dave henrie "Murray Shields" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Jxl07.179777$[email hidden]... > > "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:jxk07.427$[email hidden]... > > Murray, > > How did you save the replay if your computer crashed? Do you mean you > > came off the track, saved the replay & before you could get out of GPLit > > crashed? Just curious.. Cheers Thom_j. > > Was playing online with a friend at the time and I had some seriouscrashing

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> problems (solved completely now by shutting down my ZoneAlarm firewall > whilst playing on the net). It would crash entering or leaving race mode > (but not always). > > Finished qualifying, looked at my times, went "WOOHOO!", saved the cut > replay, then crashed when I tried to join the race that was about to > start... :-( > > > "Murray Shields" wrote: > > | My current GPLRank is 91.71, which I guess that I am happy with

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> > | there are a number of tracks that I have not worked hard at yet (most > > | notably Nurburgring). I am within 107% on all tracks but the Ring, and > > under > > | Papy's time on Monza. > > | > > | But... > > | > > | My Watkin's Glen time is currently slightly over at 1.07.09. In an > online > > | race vs a friend I managed a 1.06.83 during practice (my first and

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> > sub > > | 07), but my computer crashed before I could exit cleanly, meaning that > the > > | time was not saved to my driver.ini! > > | > > | I have tried to duplicate my time on track, but keep coming ever so > close. > > | Is there any way of editing the driver.ini to get that time "back"? I > even > > | have a replay that was saved before I crashed to prove that I did the > > time. > > | > > | Or is the number to the left of the time a code that prohibits me from > > | editing? > > | > > | Thanks... > > | > > | Muzza > > | > > | > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.262 / Virus Database: 132 - Release Date: 6/12/2001 > > > > > >

"Don Scurlock" . Get your self in training mode and set > a new PB. I can't run without the thrill of watching all ai or online racers zoom off into the distance...and then a short time later, fill my mirrors...training mode...blech! dave(confirmed backmarker)henrie

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> > > -- > Don Scurlock > Vancouver,B.C. > > GPLRank -14.06 > MonsterRank 104.55 > > Come see how you rank, at the GPLRank site > http://gplrank.ringlord.com/

Murray, Please don't take this the wrong way, because I am not trying to be a butthole, but if you are unable to repeat that performance, do you really deserve to have it up on GPLRank? Just food for thought... Todd Walker GPLRank: +81.60 twalker at jam dot rr dot com http://twalker.d2g.com/gpl On Tue, 03 Jul 2001 23:07:24 GMT, "Murray Shields" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Thanks to all who replied! > >I understand that it is frowned upon (I do not want to cheat) but I beat >Papy's time and I just can't show it... An I assure you, I have been trying >to do it again... :-( Lap after lap in the low 1.07's, but only once ever >below (my second fastest and the time in GPL Rank is 1.07.09).

Hey Muzza, I feel your pain! I lost 3 PB's when my system crashed each time I tried to save the replays. I was able to better two of the times fairly quickly, but I can only get within 1 second of the third :-( Gary Murray Shields wrote:

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> > My current GPLRank is 91.71, which I guess that I am happy with because > there are a number of tracks that I have not worked hard at yet (most > notably Nurburgring). I am within 107% on all tracks but the Ring, and under > Papy's time on Monza. > > But... > > My Watkin's Glen time is currently slightly over at 1.07.09. In an online > race vs a friend I managed a 1.06.83 during practice (my first and only sub > 07), but my computer crashed before I could exit cleanly, meaning that the > time was not saved to my driver.ini! > > I have tried to duplicate my time on track, but keep coming ever so close. > Is there any way of editing the driver.ini to get that time "back"? I even > have a replay that was saved before I crashed to prove that I did the time. > > Or is the number to the left of the time a code that prohibits me from > editing? > > Thanks... > > Muzza

Murray Shields wrote: > I am very close on a number of circuits (0.09 behind on Silverstone, for > example) but sometimes a margin like that *seems* impossible. Of course, the > biggest thing that I can do to improve my GPL Rank is to spend a month at > the 'Ring. Muzza, If you really want to beat the Papy times at Silverstone and WG, get a hold of Maxx's GPLEGS program.(I think thats what he calls it.) I don't have the URL or Maxx's email handy, but if you give him a shout on RAS he's usually around. Using his methods have helped me tremendously, especially at tracks like the aforementioned ones. I believe I dropped about 12 seconds of my GPL handicap after 2 weeks in Maxx's program. Also, get yourself a GPL Monsters Rank. Driving all the cars on all the tracks did something for me that I can't explain. All I know is I dropped about 5 seconds off my handicap in one weekend(went from +47 to +42), and beat the stink out of all my Lotus PB's driving the Eagle. Prior to last weekend, I had only used the Eagle at Spa and Monza. That car is fast EVERYWHERE! I got no advice for you at the Ring. I can't figure that place out either. Gary

On Wed, 04 Jul 2001 01:25:44 -0500, Gary Stephenson <[email hidden]> wrote: >Muzza, > >If you really want to beat the Papy times at Silverstone and WG, get a >hold of Maxx's GPLEGS program.(I think thats what he calls it.) I don't >have the URL or Maxx's email handy, but if you give him a shout on RAS >he's usually around. Yup, here I am. Find the text adn link to the zip file here : http://users.bart.nl/~hansvd/school/ As for warped laps (clock smashes is the technical term). You can get them in offline training mode also but not by just driving around. They are caused by GPL losing track of your "actual" time and effectively making a "guess" (can be higher or lower). If you have a replay of a lap, load it up into Replay Analyser 4.5x and select Tools->Online Laptime Verifier (even if it was done offline). It reports clock corrections (quite OK) and clock smashes (not OK). It will also attempt to report the "actual". Maxx

> Please don't take this the wrong way, because I am not trying to be a > butthole, but if you are unable to repeat that performance, do you > really deserve to have it up on GPLRank? How many times have YOU repeated your best time? If you never have, does THAT time deserve to be on GPLRank? > Just food for thought... Ditto... :-) Muzza

"Gary Stephenson" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Murray Shields wrote: > > I am very close on a number of circuits (0.09 behind on Silverstone, for > > example) but sometimes a margin like that *seems* impossible. Of course,the > > biggest thing that I can do to improve my GPL Rank is to spend a monthat

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> > the 'Ring. > > Muzza, > > If you really want to beat the Papy times at Silverstone and WG, get a > hold of Maxx's GPLEGS program.(I think thats what he calls it.) I don't > have the URL or Maxx's email handy, but if you give him a shout on RAS > he's usually around. Using his methods have helped me tremendously, > especially at tracks like the aforementioned ones. I believe I dropped > about 12 seconds of my GPL handicap after 2 weeks in Maxx's program. > Also, get yourself a GPL Monsters Rank. Driving all the cars on all the > tracks did something for me that I can't explain. All I know is I > dropped about 5 seconds off my handicap in one weekend(went from +47 to > +42), and beat the stink out of all my Lotus PB's driving the Eagle. > Prior to last weekend, I had only used the Eagle at Spa and Monza. That > car is fast EVERYWHERE!

Downloading now... Thanks... > I got no advice for you at the Ring. I can't figure that place out > either. Hehe. > Gary

"Don Scurlock" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:90D364ECFdscurlock@news... > [email hidden] (Murray Shields) wrote in > Hi Murray. The answer is a definite no. As far as GPLRank is concerned,editing > your player.ini file to do anything except delete bogus/warped times is > seriously frowned upon. So how do one go about deleting a warped time without losing ones previous PB? Joakim, who is very new to GPL, and haven't even got a GPLRank yet...

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>Murray, > >Please don't take this the wrong way, because I am not trying to be a >butthole, but if you are unable to repeat that performance, do you >really deserve to have it up on GPLRank? > >Just food for thought...

Doesn't almost everyone have a time ot two that they can't beat anymore? I know *I* do. That's the definition of 'personal best'... Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +366.59... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

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>Thanks to all who replied! > >I understand that it is frowned upon (I do not want to cheat) but I beat >Papy's time and I just can't show it... An I assure you, I have been trying >to do it again... :-( Lap after lap in the low 1.07's, but only once ever >below (my second fastest and the time in GPL Rank is 1.07.09). > >I am very close on a number of circuits (0.09 behind on Silverstone, for >example) but sometimes a margin like that *seems* impossible.

It's typical for most of us to plateau in our progress for long periods. It seems like you'll never get any better, then one day all that work pays off and you break through to a new level of speed. It will happen. Racing REALLY helps the motivation, try to get involved with an online league. > Of course, the biggest thing that I can do to improve my GPL Rank is to spend >a month at the 'Ring. You got that right Murray ;-) And I promise you, when you've put in enough time at the Ring that you can drive it in your head it will become you favorite track. There's no secret to it, just put in the laps. You'll progess faster there if you don't push it, just drive slow and stay on the road until you know it by heart. -- Don Scurlock Vancouver,B.C. GPLRank -14.06 MonsterRank 104.55 Come see how you rank, at the GPLRank site http://gplrank.ringlord.com/

Realistic answer: Many GPLrank administrators read this newsgroup, so if you try to put that time into your player.ini manually, they will now be on the look out for it. I would advise that you take the advice given in here and set another legitimate time, rather than edit the file to reproduce the time you lost. Lol SpeedFreek

Well, it was stated sometime ago on this board that it is possible to edit the player.ini, but I don't really know if the moderators at gplrank allow this. So I'm not telling how. Perhaps the moderators/administrators would like to comment? Wee Leong "Murray Shields" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:5UA07.604$[email hidden]...

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> > Please don't take this the wrong way, because I am not trying to be a > > butthole, but if you are unable to repeat that performance, do you > > really deserve to have it up on GPLRank? > > How many times have YOU repeated your best time? If you never have, does > THAT time deserve to be on GPLRank? > > > Just food for thought... > > Ditto... :-) > > Muzza > >

Muzza, As per my original post to your original post, I lost 3 PB's when my system crashed while I tried to save the replays. I was able to better two of them, but not the third...in fact, I can't get within 1 second it. (I don't try to save my PB replays anymore.) I was on a roll this past weekend, driving GPL 6 to 8 hours a day doing the Monsters thing. It paid off big when I finally drove a hot car like the Eagle. (I started off with the BRM, then Honda, then Cooper, but I stayed away from the Lotus, which is what I had most of my PB's with.) Now most of my PB's are with the Eagle, even at Monaco and The Ring, which I thought were 2 tracks that the Eagle sucked at! The bottom line is keep driving. If you're not making any progress at one track, switch cars. If that doesn't help, switch tracks. If you follow Maxx's advice, you should get under Papy's time at Watkins Glen real soon. Silverstone is a the same way, not only will you get under Papy, but if you're real smooth, you can beat 1:30! Ease in, a good line, and fast out equals a good lap time. That helps at Spa too, by the way...easier said than done! Just keep driving and your GPL handicap will drop!(As long as you listen to Maxx.) Listen to Maxx! I gotta go. Gary Murray Shields wrote:

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> > > Please don't take this the wrong way, because I am not trying to be a > > butthole, but if you are unable to repeat that performance, do you > > really deserve to have it up on GPLRank? > > How many times have YOU repeated your best time? If you never have, does > THAT time deserve to be on GPLRank? > > > Just food for thought... > > Ditto... :-) > > Muzza