NBC Scale Of One to Ten

I give them a rating of "5" so far.......pretty bad. "Opening Show".....I give them a 2.....it was terrible. Very flat....no punch! Oh, God....do we have to endure this for the rest of the year? Tom

1, They suck, give me Fox back!! Don Burnette "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:RPO17.161162$%[email hidden]... > I give them a rating of "5" so far.......pretty bad. "OpeningShow".....I

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> give them a 2.....it was terrible. Very flat....no punch! > > Oh, God....do we have to endure this for the rest of the year? > > Tom > > >

>Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote > I give them a rating of "5" so far.......pretty bad. "OpeningShow".....I > give them a 2.....it was terrible. Very flat....no punch! Dunno.... perhaps you should... take this .... .... to rasn ... ....yeah. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

Britney was yummmmmmy!! tho' :o)~ "Tom Pabst" wrote: | I give them a rating of "5" so far.......pretty bad. "OpeningShow".....I | give them a 2.....it was terrible. Very flat....no punch! | Oh, God....do we have to endure this for the rest of the year? | Tom --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.262 / Virus Database: 132 - Release Date: 6/12/2001

"Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:RPO17.161162$%[email hidden]... > I give them a rating of "5" so far.......pretty bad. "Opening Show".....I > give them a 2.....it was terrible. Very flat....no punch! > > Oh, God....do we have to endure this for the rest of the year? rec.autos.sport.nascar? Darn, I'm in the wrong newsgroup again... -- �� jan kohl �� security consultant http://www.theuspits.com http://www.castlegraphics.com

HUH????? ed_ Tom Pabst <[email hidden]> skrev i news:RPO17.161162$%[email hidden]... > I give them a rating of "5" so far.......pretty bad. "OpeningShow".....I

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> give them a 2.....it was terrible. Very flat....no punch! > > Oh, God....do we have to endure this for the rest of the year? > > Tom > > >

Well the video and audio problems were distracting here. I got a green screen and also it went from stereo to mono quite a bit also. I really hate to say it, but I was really wishing Darrell was in the booth for the race. His commentary at races made Wally Jr. look like a lapper on TV too. Dave Tom Pabst <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:RPO17.161162$%[email hidden]... > I give them a rating of "5" so far.......pretty bad. "OpeningShow".....I

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> give them a 2.....it was terrible. Very flat....no punch! > > Oh, God....do we have to endure this for the rest of the year? > > Tom > > >

Ohhh yeah!! Don Burnette "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:v6P17.4663$[email hidden]...

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> Britney was yummmmmmy!! tho' :o)~ > > "Tom Pabst" wrote: > | I give them a rating of "5" so far.......pretty bad. "Opening > Show".....I > | give them a 2.....it was terrible. Very flat....no punch! > | Oh, God....do we have to endure this for the rest of the year? > | Tom > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.262 / Virus Database: 132 - Release Date: 6/12/2001 > >

Yeah we should be in ras.nascar..but after seeing Jr have the balls to pull that off, only to have that tv interviewer try to take him down and relive the obvious, in his moment of glory......disgusting, but I shoulda known Ah well.....Great job "e"!!! -- Greg31 Tom Pabst wrote in message ... >I give them a rating of "5" so far.......pretty bad. "Opening Show".....I >give them a 2.....it was terrible. Very flat....no punch! > >Oh, God....do we have to endure this for the rest of the year? > >Tom > > >

"Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:RPO17.161162$%[email hidden]... > I give them a rating of "5" so far.......pretty bad. "OpeningShow".....I > give them a 2.....it was terrible. Very flat....no punch! > > Oh, God....do we have to endure this for the rest of the year? > > Tom > NBC barely gets a 1 rating for anything it does. In fact, that's about the same ratings I give all the networks. Typically, when watching a sporting event on television, I think it's more enjoyably informative if the sound is muted. If you're watching a movie or something else, you'll get the best effect by turning the television off. :) Alanb

i knew the earnhardt tirbute and the"lets relive that tragic day" stuff was comming :( why couldnt NBC just let Earnhardt rest in peace. thanks for mentioning the green screen.....thought i was losing it. neil -- "No flag no uniform ever stopped a bullet from a gun." "Out in the feilds" Gary Moore "Greg" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:3BQ17.141627$[email hidden]... > Yeah we should be in ras.nascar..but after seeing Jr have the balls to pull > that off, only to have that tv interviewer try to take him down and relive > the obvious, in his moment of glory......disgusting, but I shoulda known > Ah well.....Great job "e"!!! > > -- > Greg31 > > > > Tom Pabst wrote in message ... > >I give them a rating of "5" so far.......pretty bad. "Opening Show".....I > >give them a 2.....it was terrible. Very flat....no punch! > > > >Oh, God....do we have to endure this for the rest of the year? > > > >Tom > > > > > > > >

>"Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote > HUH????? Bah, don't bother. People like him are so spoiled that they cannot appreciate anymore... It's a society made of whiners, not producing anything good for our species. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

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> >"Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote > > HUH????? > > > Bah, don't bother. People like him are so spoiled that they cannot > appreciate anymore... It's a society made of whiners, not producing > anything good for our species. > > > > > > -- > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > -- May the Downforce be with you... > -- http://www.ymenard.com/ > -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez > Corporation - helping America into the New World... > > >

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> >"Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote > > HUH????? > > > Bah, don't bother. People like him are so spoiled that they cannot > appreciate anymore... It's a society made of whiners, not producing > anything good for our species.

So you took some time away from improving the world just to whine about his whining?

"Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:RPO17.161162$%[email hidden]... > I give them a rating of "5" so far.......pretty bad. "OpeningShow".....I > give them a 2.....it was terrible. Very flat....no punch! It *was* pretty bad, multiple green screens and all.

>"Gault" <[email hidden]> wrote > > Bah, don't bother. People like him are so spoiled that they cannot > > appreciate anymore... It's a society made of whiners, not producing > > anything good for our species. > > So you took some time away from improving the world just to whine abouthis > whining? Teehee, that wasn't whining, just a rationale statement. Anyway with your logic you are whining about the whiner that whines about whiners ;-D -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

You got me all wrong Frankie... my "huh?!?" a "Huh?? WTF are you talking about?" - kind of Huh?? I got it now tho... :-D ed_ ymenard wrote:

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> >"Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote > > HUH????? > > > Bah, don't bother. People like him are so spoiled that they cannot > appreciate anymore... It's a society made of whiners, not producing > anything good for our species.

The fact that it was possible for me to watch such a great race thanks to NBC, I'll give em a 6-7. As I always say to situations like this.... IT COULD BE A WHOLE LOT WORSE! Charlie "Gault" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:jcT17.11735$[email hidden]...

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> > "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:RPO17.161162$%[email hidden]... > > I give them a rating of "5" so far.......pretty bad. "Opening > Show".....I > > give them a 2.....it was terrible. Very flat....no punch! > > It *was* pretty bad, multiple green screens and all. > >

agreed EXCEPT FOR BILL WEBER Its great to see him back Don Burnette <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aRO17.15827$[email hidden]...

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> 1, > > They suck, give me Fox back!! > > Don Burnette > > "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:RPO17.161162$%[email hidden]... > > I give them a rating of "5" so far.......pretty bad. "Opening > Show".....I > > give them a 2.....it was terrible. Very flat....no punch! > > > > Oh, God....do we have to endure this for the rest of the year? > > > > Tom > > > > > > > >

I give it a 1. I was very UN-impressed. -Larry "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:RPO17.161162$%[email hidden]... > I give them a rating of "5" so far.......pretty bad. "OpeningShow".....I

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> give them a 2.....it was terrible. Very flat....no punch! > > Oh, God....do we have to endure this for the rest of the year? > > Tom > > >

Yeah... What happened to all the technical talk? I actually LEARNED stuff from Darell! They did one (very poor) bit on 'loose' and that's it. -Larry "DAVID J ROBINSON" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:1cQ17.68$[email hidden]... > Well the video and audio problems were distracting here. I got a green > screen and also it went from stereo to mono quite a bit also. I reallyhate

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> to say it, but I was really wishing Darrell was in the booth for the race. > His commentary at races made Wally Jr. look like a lapper on TV too. > > Dave > Tom Pabst <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:RPO17.161162$%[email hidden]... > > I give them a rating of "5" so far.......pretty bad. "Opening > Show".....I > > give them a 2.....it was terrible. Very flat....no punch! > > > > Oh, God....do we have to endure this for the rest of the year? > > > > Tom > > > > > > > >

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> >"Gault" <[email hidden]> wrote > > > Bah, don't bother. People like him are so spoiled that they cannot > > > appreciate anymore... It's a society made of whiners, not producing > > > anything good for our species. > > > > So you took some time away from improving the world just to whine about > his > > whining? > > > Teehee, that wasn't whining, just a rationale statement. > > > Anyway with your logic you are whining about the whiner that whines about > whiners ;-D

yep... almost included that myself

Damn all kinds of whining in this comment!! :-) | Anyway with your logic you are whining about the whiner that whines about | whiners ;-D --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.262 / Virus Database: 132 - Release Date: 6/12/2001

On Sun, 08 Jul 2001 04:15:25 GMT, "Neil Canning" <[email hidden]> wrote: >i knew the earnhardt tirbute and the"lets relive that tragic day" stuff was >comming :( >why couldnt NBC just let Earnhardt rest in peace. Yeah, from the pre-race show you'd think it had happened last week and nobody else was in this race today. Of course, if you believe the conspiracy theorists, there *was* no one else in this race... ;)

"Larry" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:0u%17.92115$[email hidden]... > Yeah... > > What happened to all the technical talk? I actually LEARNED stuff from I give them an 8 for not putting on so much fluff like FOX I'm tired of all the graphics, childish antics and the other BS FOX is into. I just want to see the race not a song and dance routine.

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God I am feeling old.... Don Burnette wrote:

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> > Ohhh yeah!! > > Don Burnette > > "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:v6P17.4663$[email hidden]... > > Britney was yummmmmmy!! tho' :o)~ > > > > "Tom Pabst" wrote: > > | I give them a rating of "5" so far.......pretty bad. "Opening > > Show".....I > > | give them a 2.....it was terrible. Very flat....no punch! > > | Oh, God....do we have to endure this for the rest of the year? > > | Tom > > > > > > > > --- > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > Version: 6.0.262 / Virus Database: 132 - Release Date: 6/12/2001 > > > >

Nawww, your never to old to look LOL Don Burnette "Kevin Kramer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> God I am feeling old.... > > Don Burnette wrote: > > > > Ohhh yeah!! > > > > Don Burnette > > > > "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message > > news:v6P17.4663$[email hidden]... > > > Britney was yummmmmmy!! tho' :o)~ > > > > > > "Tom Pabst" wrote: > > > | I give them a rating of "5" so far.......pretty bad. "Opening > > > Show".....I > > > | give them a 2.....it was terrible. Very flat....no punch! > > > | Oh, God....do we have to endure this for the rest of the year? > > > | Tom > > > > > > > > > > > > --- > > > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > > > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > > > Version: 6.0.262 / Virus Database: 132 - Release Date: 6/12/2001 > > > > > >

I was in a hurry.......lol.... Tom

Don Burnette wrote: > > Nawww, your never to old to look LOL No but you're too old when you look at that & then look away saying, "I've got KIDS older than her." ;-) -- Fester

Hey Kevin!! I am old in years but young at heart!! Hell I have a daughter 10years Britney's senior but this will never stop me from appreciating her beauty!! I'm old but not dead!! :o)~ "Kevin Kramer" wrote: | God I am feeling old.... | > "Thom j." wrote: | > Britney was yummmmmmy!! tho' :o)~ --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.262 / Virus Database: 132 - Release Date: 6/12/2001

NOT ME!!! :o)~ "Uncle Fester" wrote: | No but you're too old when you look at that & then look away saying, | "I've got KIDS older than her." ;-) | -- | Fester --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.262 / Virus Database: 132 - Release Date: 6/12/2001

uhmmmmm lemme just ask for a QUICK clarification.... whom is it you are appreciating...Britney or your 30ish daughter....???? dave (mr perv) henrie "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:V4u27.11263$[email hidden]...

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> Hey Kevin!! I am old in years but young at heart!! Hell I have a daughter > 10years Britney's senior but this will never stop me from appreciating her > beauty!! I'm old but not dead!! :o)~ > > "Kevin Kramer" wrote: > | God I am feeling old.... > > | > "Thom j." wrote: > | > Britney was yummmmmmy!! tho' :o)~ > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.262 / Virus Database: 132 - Release Date: 6/12/2001 > >

Dave Henrie wrote: > > uhmmmmm lemme just ask for a QUICK clarification.... > whom is it you are appreciating...Britney or your 30ish daughter....???? DAVE!!! ;-) -- Fester

Well we know you were trying to be Mr Cutzie funny guy but there has been and never will be any 'inbreeding' nor 'incest' in my family! Yukk and Barf!! Also she is reading this as I type and she wants to know "do you have a life Dave Henrie?" hahaha "Dave Henrie" wrote: | uhmmmmm lemme just ask for a QUICK clarification.... | whom is it you are appreciating...Britney or your 30ish daughter....???? | dave (mr perv) henrie --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.262 / Virus Database: 132 - Release Date: 6/12/2001

That's the spirit !! Don Burnette "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:V4u27.11263$[email hidden]...

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> Hey Kevin!! I am old in years but young at heart!! Hell I have a daughter > 10years Britney's senior but this will never stop me from appreciating her > beauty!! I'm old but not dead!! :o)~ > > "Kevin Kramer" wrote: > | God I am feeling old.... > > | > "Thom j." wrote: > | > Britney was yummmmmmy!! tho' :o)~ > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.262 / Virus Database: 132 - Release Date: 6/12/2001 > >

Its okay Uncle Fester thats why he is on here all the time & not in bed with some fine hiney oops honey.. hahahaha :o)~ "Uncle Fester" wrote:

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| DAVE!!! | ;-) | -- | Fester | Dave Henrie wrote: | > | > uhmmmmm lemme just ask for a QUICK clarification.... | > whom is it you are appreciating...Britney or your 30ish daughter....????

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"Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:iuv27.11720$[email hidden]... > Well we know you were trying to be Mr Cutzie funny guy but there > has been and never will be any 'inbreeding' nor 'incest' in my family! > Yukk and Barf!! Also she is reading this as I type and she wants to > know "do you have a life Dave Henrie?" hahaha > no life, I have dedicated my time and energies into getting as many users running working systems as possible. When I could myself be out practicing practicing practicing, I stay here and post intricate bits of arcane knowledge that improve the feel of sims all over for folks all over. From time to time my head takes leave of my body and my fingers (only occaisionally mind you) type any sort of spurious comments. So to your daugher I most profusely apologize and to you..... gotanypictures???????? dave(yes the rumour is true I dumped Britney years ago...)henrie

So what you are saying is: you are a plethora of useless knowledge!! :o)~ Yes I have pictures! But my daughter wants to see ur ugly puss first!..lol "Dave Henrie" wrote:

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| | "Thom j." wrote: | > Well we know you were trying to be Mr Cutzie funny guy but there | > has been and never will be any 'inbreeding' nor 'incest' in my family! | > Yukk and Barf!! Also she is reading this as I type and she wants to | > know "do you have a life Dave Henrie?" hahaha | > | no life, I have dedicated my time and energies into getting as many | users running working systems as possible. When I could myself be out | practicing practicing practicing, I stay here and post intricate bits of | arcane knowledge that improve the feel of sims all over for folks all

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| From time to time my head takes leave of my body and my fingers (only | occaisionally mind you) type any sort of spurious comments. So to your | daugher I most profusely apologize and to you..... | gotanypictures???????? | dave(yes the rumour is true I dumped Britney years ago...)henrie | |

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>"Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote > I was in a hurry.......lol.... okay... lol... ;) -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...

ahh pictures ehhh??? Well before I dedicated my life to improving the sim-experience for others...I used to hang out at http://www.muscleandfitness.com/index.asp?catid=185 you might find several of my 'old pic's there....................................................................... ...................... dave henrie "Thom j." <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:iEv27.11819$[email hidden]...

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> So what you are saying is: you are a plethora of useless knowledge!! :o)~ > Yes I have pictures! But my daughter wants to see ur ugly puss first!..lol > > "Dave Henrie" wrote: > | > | "Thom j." wrote: > | > Well we know you were trying to be Mr Cutzie funny guy but there > | > has been and never will be any 'inbreeding' nor 'incest' in my family! > | > Yukk and Barf!! Also she is reading this as I type and she wants to > | > know "do you have a life Dave Henrie?" hahaha > | > > | no life, I have dedicated my time and energies into getting as many > | users running working systems as possible. When I could myself be out > | practicing practicing practicing, I stay here and post intricate bits of > | arcane knowledge that improve the feel of sims all over for folks all > over. > | From time to time my head takes leave of my body and my fingers (only > | occaisionally mind you) type any sort of spurious comments. So to your > | daugher I most profusely apologize and to you..... > | gotanypictures???????? > | dave(yes the rumour is true I dumped Britney years ago...)henrie > | > | > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.262 / Virus Database: 132 - Release Date: 6/12/2001 > >

"O" yea we see you!! Your the big fat broad in the before pic!! hahahaha "Dave Henrie" wrote: | ahh pictures ehhh??? Well before I dedicated my life to improving the | sim-experience for others...I used to hang out at | http://www.muscleandfitness.com/index.asp?catid=185 | you might find several of my 'old pic's |there....................................................................... | ...................... | dave henrie | | "Thom j." wrote: | > So what you are saying is: you are a plethora of useless knowledge!!:o)~ | > Yes I have pictures! But my daughter wants to see ur ugly pussfirst!..lol | > | > "Dave Henrie" wrote: | > | | > | "Thom j." wrote: | > | > Well we know you were trying to be Mr Cutzie funny guy but there | > | > has been and never will be any 'inbreeding' nor 'incest' in myfamily! | > | > Yukk and Barf!! Also she is reading this as I type and she wants to | > | > know "do you have a life Dave Henrie?" hahaha | > | > | > | no life, I have dedicated my time and energies into getting asmany | > | users running working systems as possible. When I could myself be out | > | practicing practicing practicing, I stay here and post intricate bitsof | > | arcane knowledge that improve the feel of sims all over for folks all | > over. | > | From time to time my head takes leave of my body and my fingers (only | > | occaisionally mind you) type any sort of spurious comments. So toyour | > | daugher I most profusely apologize and to you..... | > | gotanypictures???????? | > | dave(yes the rumour is true I dumped Britney years ago...)henrie --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.262 / Virus Database: 132 - Release Date: 6/12/2001

I would give it a low 5. The audio and "green screen" of death, the "extra" commericals to deal with those problems, all got on my nerves. Alan Bestwick, thumbs up. BP, thumbs up. Wally, needs work, thumb sideways. Bring back DW. Whose loudmouth was that in the pits? John Kernan, ugh, get rid of him. Keep Yocum, though. They finally realised that NASCAR fans aren't all CNN fans and did away with the hard-to-follow scrolling track positions. The stagnant ones are better, but I like the TOP 15 (with seperators between each 5) box to the top left ESPN used to have. Did they have the little button/icon showing the current flag/track condition? I don't remember but dont think they did. That was one cool thing that Fox did. And to nit pick quasi-blindly, I have a DSS dish and all the FX races where crystal clear. I don't have the updated unit that allows local networks so I use an antenna for Fox and NBC, ABC, etc. To my eyes, with my stations tuned as well as possible, it appears that NBC is using inferior cameras. The Fox feeds were crystal clear especially in super slow mo, HS cameras maybe? The NBC footage simply didn't appear as clear, me thinks older tech in use there. Come on Cosby Network, buy some better gear for the NASCAR events. hehe Same goes for the footage I've seen thus far on TNT (Q was on TNT right, and the Busch race?) Anway, my 2 cents in the wrong newsgroup Sim Larry <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:ss%17.92098$[email hidden]...

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> I give it a 1. I was very UN-impressed. > > -Larry > > "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:RPO17.161162$%[email hidden]... > > I give them a rating of "5" so far.......pretty bad. "Opening > Show".....I > > give them a 2.....it was terrible. Very flat....no punch! > > > > Oh, God....do we have to endure this for the rest of the year? > > > > Tom > > > > > > > >

Ya1 Baby I want my idiot vision back AKA FOX I love the squirt gun fights jokes and the Rev it up potion of the show. the graphics are great on FOX to bad the race gets in the way of the graphics..... Hollywood hotel ........Kool>>>>>>>>>> "Tom Pabst" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:RPO17.161162$%[email hidden]... > I give them a rating of "5" so far.......pretty bad. "OpeningShow".....I

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> give them a 2.....it was terrible. Very flat....no punch! > > Oh, God....do we have to endure this for the rest of the year? > > Tom > > >