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N4: KyroII or GTS2?

12 posts by 6 people · 09 Jul 2001 20:59 UTC - 10 Jul 2001 20:37 UTC

>"Stefano" <[email hidden]> wrote > Which is the best choice? Depends on your processor (it screams on 800+ mhz PC's). I'll say a Kyro II is a better card for long-term N4 investment. It kicks arse in N4 :) -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...
Noddy 09 Jul 2001 22:50 UTC↳ reply to Stefano#174315
On Mon, 09 Jul 2001 20:59:52 GMT, "Stefano" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Which is the best choice? > > > GTS2, it does T&L which N4 will take advantage of.
Noddy 09 Jul 2001 22:53 UTC↳ reply to ymenard#174317
On Mon, 9 Jul 2001 17:54:19 -0400, "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Depends on your processor (it screams on 800+ mhz PC's). I'll say a Kyro II >is a better card for long-term N4 investment. It kicks arse in N4 :) You have a KyroII? In most tests I've seen a GTS2 is faster. It's only in certain games that a KyroII kicks arse. N4 uses T&L, Kyro2 does not do T&L. Geforce2 does.
ymenard 10 Jul 2001 04:42 UTC↳ reply to Noddy#174237
>"Noddy" <[email hidden]> wrote > You have a KyroII? In most tests I've seen a GTS2 is faster. It's only > in certain games that a KyroII kicks arse. N4 uses T&L, Kyro2 does not > do T&L. Geforce2 does. Like I said, it all depends on the processor. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...
I'm writing an article and happened to run some benchmarks in N4. With 333 -560 MHz range processors T&L increases FPS in N4 roughly 20% on average. If you have a 2GHz P4 it might just run faster with T&L turned off. "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:OFv27.15476$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (21 lines)> >"Noddy" <[email hidden]> wrote > > You have a KyroII? In most tests I've seen a GTS2 is faster. It's only > > in certain games that a KyroII kicks arse. N4 uses T&L, Kyro2 does not > > do T&L. Geforce2 does. > > Like I said, it all depends on the processor. > > > > > > > -- > -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> > -- May the Downforce be with you... > -- http://www.ymenard.com/ > -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez > Corporation - helping America into the New World... > > >
Noddy 10 Jul 2001 11:18 UTC↳ reply to ymenard#174285
On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 00:42:11 -0400, "ymenard" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Like I said, it all depends on the processor. How do you mean? Are you talking scalability or what?
Noddy 10 Jul 2001 11:33 UTC↳ reply to Stefano#174090
On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 07:43:40 GMT, "Stefano" <[email hidden]> wrote: >> Depends on your processor > >I'm planning to go with an Athlon 1.4 GHz > Here's a good article on the Kyro2. They don't test it on N4, but it will give you a good idea of what to expect. If money is tight I would go Kyro2, but if it isn't I still think a Geforce2/3 is a better card overall. http://firingsquad.gamers.com/hardware/kyro2/default.asp Here's an exerpt that pretty well sums it up. Personally, I just might buy the Kyro3 because it will have a T&L processor. "If you're looking for the flat-out fastest video card in the budget segment, the Kyro II clearly fits the bill, but as it's priced now (between the GeForce2 MX and GeForce2 GTS) some might be better off saving a few dollars and upgrading instead to one of the performance T&L offerings from ATI or NVIDIA. They may cost a bit more and lose to Kyro II in some situations (read: FSAA) but you may be glad you went that route later this year when the first crop of DirectX 8 games hits store shelves."
Stefano, The GF2 GTS is faster (by quite a bit, particularly at higher rez's) than the GF3 with older games like N4 and GPL. However, the GTS was so pricey that nVidea has effectively discontinued the board (altho you can still find them...if you look real hard) so that they have some wiggle room to further reduce the price of the GF3. The cheaper MX is pretty good (it doesn't give away *much* below 1024x768), and I find support superior to the Kyro II. I'd recommend the 7.52 Detonators, altho the later drivers may be stable by now. --Steve "Stefano" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:Mmy27.40563$[email hidden]... > > Depends on your processor > > I'm planning to go with an Athlon 1.4 GHz > >
Stephen Smith <[email hidden]> skrev i en nyhedsmeddelelse:UYC27.15740$[email hidden]... > Check this out: > > http://news.simracing.dk/anmeldelser/hardware/kyro2_gpl/kyro2_gpl.htm >I'll do an update of the article when new interesting drivers arrive. I don't expect to see any changes before DirectX 8.1 final arrives as it should have much better Kyro II support. As far as I have read, Microsoft has hard-coded chip support into DX instead of checking whether the chip supports certain features. /Jens

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