I was away on vacation, got back two days ago and find
that RSC has banned my acccount. I didn't violate any
rules. I emailed "webmaster", but no reply.
What is going on?
'Abbakus' complains of RSC ban and is unmasked as Jeff Reid
A poster called abbakus complained about being banned from RSC without explanation. Regulars compared message headers and IP addresses and concluded it was Jeff Reid under another name. Reid eventually conceded in jest, then claimed it was a friend, and the group mocked the episode.
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abbakus wrote:
> I was away on vacation, got back two days ago and find
> that RSC has banned my acccount. I didn't violate any
> rules. I emailed "webmaster", but no reply.
>
> What is going on?
> Indeed. Why does your header information match that of Jeff Reid?
abbakus:
"whooo" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:QtVTe.974$[email hidden]...
I'm looking at this and it's not showing the same ...
can Cox Cable be messing this up?
My ip 68.231.201.198
Jeff Reid's ip 68.231.211.244
My header:
Path: news1.west.cox.net!west.cox.net!p01!fed1read03.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail
From: "abbakus" <[email hidden]>
Newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators
Subject: Banned by RSC, no reason given
Lines: 9
X-Priority: 3
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670
X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670
Message-ID: <RdVTe.72001$Ji4.59486@fed1read03>
Date: Thu, 8 Sep 2005 04:26:42 -0700
NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.231.201.198
X-Complaints-To: [email hidden]
X-Trace: fed1read03 1126178801 68.231.201.198 (Thu, 08 Sep 2005 07:26:41 EDT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 07:26:41 EDT
Organization: Cox Communications
Xref: cox.net rec.autos.simulators:479231
X-Received-Date: Thu, 08 Sep 2005 07:26:43 EDT (news1.west.cox.net)
Jeff Reid's header:
Path: news1.west.cox.net!west.cox.net!filt01.cox.net!peer02.cox.net!cox.net!p01!fed1read01.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail
From: "Jeff Reid" <[email hidden]>
Newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators
References: <[email hidden]> <J1tQe.133018$E95.37369@fed1read01>
<431ca9e2$0$24159$[email hidden]>
Subject: Re: Which series use Traction Control?
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X-Priority: 3
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Message-ID: <Yt7Te.167992$E95.152561@fed1read01>
Date: Mon, 5 Sep 2005 19:50:37 -0700
NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.231.211.244
X-Complaints-To: [email hidden]
X-Trace: fed1read01 1125975032 68.231.211.244 (Mon, 05 Sep 2005 22:50:32 EDT)
NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 22:50:32 EDT
Organization: Cox Communications
Xref: cox.net rec.autos.simulators:479049
X-Received-Date: Mon, 05 Sep 2005 22:50:36 EDT (news1.west.cox.net)
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> abbakus wrote: >> I was away on vacation, got back two days ago and find >> that RSC has banned my acccount. I didn't violate any >> rules. I emailed "webmaster", but no reply. >> >> What is going on? >> > Indeed. Why does your header information match that of Jeff Reid?Quoted text (7 lines)
>> Indeed. Why does your header information match that of Jeff Reid? > > I'm looking at this and it's not showing the same ... > can Cox Cable be messing this up? > > My ip 68.231.201.198 > Jeff Reid's ip 68.231.211.244Quoted text (7 lines)
>>> Indeed. Why does your header information match that of Jeff Reid? >> >> I'm looking at this and it's not showing the same ... >> can Cox Cable be messing this up? >> >> My ip 68.231.201.198 >> Jeff Reid's ip 68.231.211.244Well, what a coincidence! Who would have thought it?
abbakus wrote:
Quoted text (65 lines)
>>>>Indeed. Why does your header information match that of Jeff Reid? >>> >>>I'm looking at this and it's not showing the same ... >>>can Cox Cable be messing this up? >>> >>>My ip 68.231.201.198 >>>Jeff Reid's ip 68.231.211.244 > > > Ok, found one that did match, and one that didn't, is this something > Jeff or Cox Cable is doing? I'm going to call up Cox and see what's going > on, will post again later. > > This one same as mine: > > Path: news1.west.cox.net!west.cox.net!p01!fed1read03.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail > From: "Jeff Reid" <[email hidden]> > Newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators > References: <LklSe.101656$[email hidden]> <[email hidden]> > <[email hidden]> <XMsSe.158644$E95.142265@fed1read01> <[email hidden]> > <431aab1e$0$15506$[email hidden]> > Subject: Re: rFactor review > Lines: 18 > X-Priority: 3 > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 > X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Response > Message-ID: <nxBSe.69307$Ji4.62685@fed1read03> > Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2005 05:13:14 -0700 > NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.231.201.198 > X-Complaints-To: [email hidden] > X-Trace: fed1read03 1125835987 68.231.201.198 (Sun, 04 Sep 2005 08:13:07 EDT) > NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2005 08:13:07 EDT > Organization: Cox Communications > Xref: cox.net rec.autos.simulators:478892 > X-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2005 08:13:08 EDT (news1.west.cox.net) > > This one is isn't: > > Path: news1.west.cox.net!west.cox.net!p01!fed1read01.POSTED!53ab2750!not-for-mail > From: "Jeff Reid" <[email hidden]> > Newsgroups: rec.autos.simulators > References: <LklSe.101656$[email hidden]> <[email hidden]> > <[email hidden]> <XMsSe.158644$E95.142265@fed1read01> <[email hidden]> > <431aab1e$0$15506$[email hidden]> <nxBSe.69307$Ji4.62685@fed1read03> > Subject: Re: rFactor review > Lines: 13 > X-Priority: 3 > X-MSMail-Priority: Normal > X-Newsreader: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2670 > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2670 > X-RFC2646: Format=Flowed; Original > Message-ID: <8lESe.159440$E95.46782@fed1read01> > Date: Sun, 4 Sep 2005 08:24:57 -0700 > NNTP-Posting-Host: 68.231.211.244 > X-Complaints-To: [email hidden] > X-Trace: fed1read01 1125847492 68.231.211.244 (Sun, 04 Sep 2005 11:24:52 EDT) > NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2005 11:24:52 EDT > Organization: Cox Communications > Xref: cox.net rec.autos.simulators:478914 > X-Received-Date: Sun, 04 Sep 2005 11:24:53 EDT (news1.west.cox.net) > > >> > My ip 68.231.201.198
> > Jeff Reid's ip 68.231.211.244
> Well, what a coincidence! Who would have thought it?
Not a conincidence. Apparenlty 68.31.201.198 is some type
of firewall ip (hundreds of users will appear to
have this same ip with the firewall option).
Sometimes non-firewall users get one of the firewall
ip's due to some bug. Anyway, they told me to power
cycle my cable modem, and now my ip is fixed again
back to 68.4.214.134.
Oh well, if there was an ip match, then that could
explain it, but you'd think that someone from RSC could
had responded and explained it.
> now my ip is fixed again back to 68.4.214.134.
Just checked it, it's fixed. From now on, I'll do
ipconfig check before going online to keep from
getting any more false accusations.
You'd think that RSC would be aware of firewalled ip's
though. Then again, since they provided no explanation,
it may have been something else. Also looking at some
older threads, Sirrocco claims that it was a different
player (not jeffr) at RSC that that was posting using
different accounts.
abbakus wrote:
Thanks for the info, Jeff.
Quoted text (15 lines)
>>now my ip is fixed again back to 68.4.214.134. > > > Just checked it, it's fixed. From now on, I'll do > ipconfig check before going online to keep from > getting any more false accusations. > > You'd think that RSC would be aware of firewalled ip's > though. Then again, since they provided no explanation, > it may have been something else. Also looking at some > older threads, Sirrocco claims that it was a different > player (not jeffr) at RSC that that was posting using > different accounts. > >"abbakus" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:3YWTe.19846$sw6.6316@fed1read05...
Hmmmm... bringing up being banned from RSC in RAS. Looks like Jeff.
Replying to oneself several times in one thread. Looks like Jeff.
IP addresses from a similar range, same ISP, same use of a hotmail account,
same newsreader. That certainly looks like it could be Jeff.
And really, does anyone think that someone who has made their FIRST usenet
post EVER under this name, on this subject, with all these similarities
ISN'T dear ol' Insane Jeffy who's now nym-shifting?
Dude, if RAS was a webforum you would've been banned long ago. The way you
act here does nothing but show everyone that you deserve any ban you get.
Start up your own webforum where you're the boss, or stay on topic here
about SIMULATORS and stop whining about RSC. And lastly, grow the hell up.
KenB
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>> now my ip is fixed again back to 68.4.214.134. > > Just checked it, it's fixed. From now on, I'll do > ipconfig check before going online to keep from > getting any more false accusations. > > You'd think that RSC would be aware of firewalled ip's > though. Then again, since they provided no explanation, > it may have been something else. Also looking at some > older threads, Sirrocco claims that it was a different > player (not jeffr) at RSC that that was posting using > different accounts. > >I'm Jeff, and so's my wife!
Ken Beard wrote:
Quoted text (38 lines)
> "abbakus" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:3YWTe.19846$sw6.6316@fed1read05... > >>>now my ip is fixed again back to 68.4.214.134. >> >>Just checked it, it's fixed. From now on, I'll do >>ipconfig check before going online to keep from >>getting any more false accusations. >> >>You'd think that RSC would be aware of firewalled ip's >>though. Then again, since they provided no explanation, >>it may have been something else. Also looking at some >>older threads, Sirrocco claims that it was a different >>player (not jeffr) at RSC that that was posting using >>different accounts. >> >> > > > Hmmmm... bringing up being banned from RSC in RAS. Looks like Jeff. > > Replying to oneself several times in one thread. Looks like Jeff. > > IP addresses from a similar range, same ISP, same use of a hotmail account, > same newsreader. That certainly looks like it could be Jeff. > > And really, does anyone think that someone who has made their FIRST usenet > post EVER under this name, on this subject, with all these similarities > ISN'T dear ol' Insane Jeffy who's now nym-shifting? > > Dude, if RAS was a webforum you would've been banned long ago. The way you > act here does nothing but show everyone that you deserve any ban you get. > Start up your own webforum where you're the boss, or stay on topic here > about SIMULATORS and stop whining about RSC. And lastly, grow the hell up. > > KenB > >whooo wrote:
Ok, ok, I'm so busted. :0(
Quoted text (19 lines)
> abbakus wrote: > >>> now my ip is fixed again back to 68.4.214.134. >> >> >> >> Just checked it, it's fixed. From now on, I'll do >> ipconfig check before going online to keep from >> getting any more false accusations. >> >> You'd think that RSC would be aware of firewalled ip's >> though. Then again, since they provided no explanation, >> it may have been something else. Also looking at some >> older threads, Sirrocco claims that it was a different >> player (not jeffr) at RSC that that was posting using >> different accounts. >> >> > Thanks for the info, Jeff.
Jeff Reid wrote:
>
> I'm Jeff, and so's my wife!
You get extra credits for the Monty Python reference, but I'm
disappointed in the overall effort :)
Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
"The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/
"When two or more people are gathered together in my name,
they shall perform the Parrot Sketch..."
--Our Lord John Cleese--
Goy Larsen wrote:
Actually, that was me disguised at Jeff.
Quoted text (9 lines)
> > Jeff Reid wrote: > >>I'm Jeff, and so's my wife! > > > You get extra credits for the Monty Python reference, but I'm > disappointed in the overall effort :) >
Whooo wrote:
>
> Actually, that was me disguised at Jeff.
You'd have to be a Roman soldier to be fooled by that disguise :), to
continue with the Monty Python references :)
Beers and cheers
(uncle) Goy
"The Pits" http://www.theuspits.com/
"When two or more people are gathered together in my name,
they shall perform the Parrot Sketch..."
--Our Lord John Cleese--
>"abbakus" <[email hidden]> wrote
> I'm looking at this and it's not showing the same ...
> can Cox Cable be messing this up?
>
> My ip 68.231.201.198
> Jeff Reid's ip 68.231.211.244
Yeah it's not only in a nearby IP tree branch, you also both "accidently"
share the same OE version, MimeOLE version, same time zone, same priority...
all this for two person who post here about being banned on RSC within the
same week, a type of post we've seen here perhaps once or twice per year.
Please, don't even try.
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"Ken Beard" <[email hidden]> wrote
> Dude, if RAS was a webforum you would've been banned long ago. The way
> you act here does nothing but show everyone that you deserve any ban you
> get. Start up your own webforum where you're the boss, or stay on topic
> here about SIMULATORS and stop whining about RSC. And lastly, grow the
> hell up.
We love kooks here on ras, especially kooks who have no idea of the Usenet
and think they can go away with anything. They are fun to play with, those
little innocent trolls. Trust me, I know about this ;)
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On Thu, 8 Sep 2005 04:26:42 -0700, "abbakus" <[email hidden]>
wrote:
>I was away on vacation, got back two days ago and find
>that RSC has banned my acccount. I didn't violate any
>rules. I emailed "webmaster", but no reply.
>
>What is going on?
You're one weird guy, that's what is going on.
> IP addresses from a similar range, same ISP, same use of a hotmail account, same newsreader.
That must narrow it down to a few thousand people in the west coast.
>"abbakus" <[email hidden]> wrote
> That must narrow it down to a few thousand people in the west coast.
Which magically both have interest in racing simulators... and have interest
in a specific website that talks about it... and have interest in the forum
of that site... and both of them get banned... and both of them decide to
post within the same week on this newsgroup. Please, just admit you're a
liar as we all know it already.
Cmon man stop trolling you kook, we have seen people like you in high
numbers, don't try to fool us you're just fooling yourself.
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> >"abbakus" <[email hidden]> wrote
>> That must narrow it down to a few thousand people in the west coast.
> Which magically both have interest in racing simulators... and have interest in a specific website that talks about
> it... and have interest in the forum of that site... and both of them get banned...
Now that is a coincidence, a group of friends, all living in the west coast,
that have interest in racing simulators, use RSC and RAS, and all of them
with ip's that start with 68. (Except me).
Quoted text (10 lines)
>>>> coincidence >>> That must narrow it down to a few thousand people in the west coast. >> Which magically both have interest in racing simulators... >> and have interest in a specific website that talks about it... and have interest in the forum of that site... > Now that is a coincidence, a group of friends, all living in the west coast, > that have interest in racing simulators, use RSC and RAS, and all of them > with ip's that start with 68. (Except me)."abbakus" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:4z1Ue.19928$sw6.6789@fed1read05...
Dude - if you didn't give it away by anything else, it's this right here -
that you REPLY TO YOURSELF. Under your other nym you will have 20 responses
in a 30-post thread, and half of those are replies to yourself - sometimes
as much as 3 times. What do you do under the new "no, no I'm not Jeff" nym?
Reply to yourself several times in a thread.
Stop while you're only slightly behind......
I know you won't though, so have fun resetting your cable modem before every
post to try to fool everyone that you're different kooks, er, people.
KenB
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>>>>> coincidence > >>>> That must narrow it down to a few thousand people in the west coast. > >>> Which magically both have interest in racing simulators... >>> and have interest in a specific website that talks about it... and have >>> interest in the forum of that site... > >> Now that is a coincidence, a group of friends, all living in the west >> coast, >> that have interest in racing simulators, use RSC and RAS, and all of them >> with ip's that start with 68. (Except me). > > Or maybe some friends with common interest in racing sims, get together > for LAN party's and sometimes they post messages from my place. >>"abbakus" <[email hidden]> wrote
> Now that is a coincidence, a group of friends, all living in the west
> coast,
> that have interest in racing simulators, use RSC and RAS, and all of them
> with ip's that start with 68. (Except me).
Jury calls in... GUILTY!
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abbakus wrote:
> I was away on vacation, got back two days ago and find
> that RSC has banned my acccount. I didn't violate any
> rules. I emailed "webmaster", but no reply.
>
> What is going on?
Hi Jeff.
abbakus wrote:
I think the gentleman protests his innocents too much! ;0)
Come on, Jeff, just admit it. You'll be surprised just how forgiving a
bunch we all are.
Quoted text (15 lines)
>>>"abbakus" <[email hidden]> wrote >>>That must narrow it down to a few thousand people in the west coast. > > >>Which magically both have interest in racing simulators... and have interest in a specific website that talks about >>it... and have interest in the forum of that site... and both of them get banned... > > > Now that is a coincidence, a group of friends, all living in the west coast, > that have interest in racing simulators, use RSC and RAS, and all of them > with ip's that start with 68. (Except me). > > > >On Thu, 8 Sep 2005 04:26:42 -0700, "abbakus" <[email hidden]>
wrote:
>I was away on vacation, got back two days ago and find
>that RSC has banned my acccount. I didn't violate any
>rules. I emailed "webmaster", but no reply.
>
>What is going on?
You're apparently a lunatic, that's what. RSC is onto it, and I think
if it was possible to ban you from here, you'd be on some other forum
asking yourself what happened to you.
I don't see much point in responding to this thread, everyone
on this thread here already has their mind made up.
You see multiple ip's for Abbakus because a group of friends
decided to post using that name. I don't know how Cox Cable
does ip's. Until now, I had the impression that they never
changed, until I checked the ip's of my older posts. I
don't know what causes this. I do know that resetting the
modem doesn't cause it (after trying about 5 times). Most
of the time, my ip's are the same.
With Cox Cable, you can have up to 3 ip's in a household, one
ip per computer. The computers need to be networked via a
switcher to a common cable modem. I'm one of about 400
customers that has two ip's: 68.231.111.244 and 68.5.243.208.
> Come on, Jeff, just admit it. You'll be surprised just how forgiving a bunch we all are.
We'll see about that, testing my 2nd ip address with this email.
Quoted text (7 lines)
>> I was away on vacation, got back two days ago and find >> that RSC has banned my acccount. I didn't violate any >> rules. I emailed "webmaster", but no reply. >> >> What is going on? > > Hi Jeff.Jeff Reid wrote:
> It wasn't me, just a friend of mine who posted on his own without
> any instigation on my part. I'm not responsible for the posts
> my friends make. As whooo / Cliff pointed out,
> "advocates are banned at RSC"
JEFF REID LADIES AND GENTLEMEN!
*polite applause*
> Come on, Jeff, just admit it.
He has nothing to admit, it was my fault, sorry for even
starting this thread, but you guys just aren't going to
let this go, are you?
Jeff Reid wrote:
You're only making it worse for yourself, you know!
Quoted text (15 lines)
>>>I was away on vacation, got back two days ago and find >>>that RSC has banned my acccount. I didn't violate any >>>rules. I emailed "webmaster", but no reply. >>> >>>What is going on? >> >>Hi Jeff. > > > It wasn't me, just a friend of mine who posted on his own without > any instigation on my part. I'm not responsible for the posts > my friends make. As whooo / Cliff pointed out, > "advocates are banned at RSC" > >> You're only making it worse for yourself, you know!
That's not possible, everyone here is assuming abbakus is me
already.
Jeff Reid wrote:
Ok, swear on the lives of your family that you are not abbakus.
Quoted text (7 lines)
>>You're only making it worse for yourself, you know! > > > That's not possible, everyone here is assuming abbakus is me > already. > >Quoted text (7 lines)
>>>You're only making it worse for yourself, you know! >> >> >> That's not possible, everyone here is assuming abbakus is me >> already. > Ok, swear on the lives of your family that you are not abbakus.>"Jeff Reid" <[email hidden]> wrote
>> Come on, Jeff, just admit it. You'll be surprised just how forgiving a
>> bunch we all are.
>
> We'll see about that, testing my 2nd ip address with this email.
Oh and now it's funny, you "re-appear" here in this NG minutes before
abbakus posted again. What a coincidence.
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>Dude, if RAS was a webforum you would've been banned long ago.
To those of us who have an ignore filter on author or subject he was
long ago.
> Oh and now it's funny, you "re-appear" here in this NG minutes before abbakus posted again. What a coincidence.
It's a new technology called a phone. Friends use this to communicate
with each other. I never claimed that I didn't know "abbakus", or
that he wasn't a friend of mine or as RSC must think, an "advacate"
to be banned as described by whooo / Cliff. All of his posts are
still there at RSC; do you see any post he made that violated the
rules of RSC?
Whooo wrote:
Jeff: Making it worse?! How could it be worse?! "Banned from RSC, banned
from RSC, banned from RSC"
RAS: "Ooooh!..."
Quoted text (7 lines)
>> It wasn't me, just a friend of mine who posted on his own without >> any instigation on my part. I'm not responsible for the posts >> my friends make. As whooo / Cliff pointed out, >> "advocates are banned at RSC" >> >> > You're only making it worse for yourself, you know!"Jeff Reid" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:iC7Ue.210375$E95.86552@fed1read01...
> With Cox Cable, you can have up to 3 ip's in a household, one
> ip per computer. The computers need to be networked via a
> switcher to a common cable modem. I'm one of about 400
> customers that has two ip's: 68.231.111.244 and 68.5.243.208.
Interesting. 400 people share two IP addresses? Does that mean if 2 of
those people are already online, the other 398 must wait their turn?
"Jeff Reid" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:mObUe.212370$E95.4583@fed1read01...
Easy, dynamic versus static IP addresses. Static IP addresses don't change
and dynamic do. Also, people are able to change a MAC without changing any
hardware. ;)
Quoted text (9 lines)
> In spite of what some are claiming, a person can't change their > ip through Cox Cable, without doing something like replacing the > cable modem (a different MAC) and even then you may end up > getting the same ip, as the cable modem's software, including > control, speed, and ip addressing are all downloaded by Cox Cable > into a person's cable modem. > > If anyone here honestly thinks otherwise, then explain how it could > be done.
Scirocco wrote:
No, those are my two personal ip's from Cox.
However, with a firewall, thousands of people appear to share a single
ip. For example, 57.68.138.5, from SITA-Societe Internationale de
Telecommunications Aeronautiques, a company in France. This is the
firewall ip that we use at work. Every employee at my company and
several other companies will appear to be using this same ip. With this
type of setup, internal ip's of the form 10.xx.xx.xx are used, but all
are mapped to the same external ip 57.68.138.5.
Cox Cable offers a simlar firewall service, but it's mostly used for
commercial sites, similar to my company.
Quoted text (9 lines)
> "Jeff Reid" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:iC7Ue.210375$E95.86552@fed1read01... > > With Cox Cable, you can have up to 3 ip's in a household, one > > ip per computer. The computers need to be networked via a > > switcher to a common cable modem. I'm one of about 400 > > customers that has two ip's: 68.231.111.244 and 68.5.243.208. > > Interesting. 400 people share two IP addresses? Does that mean if 2 of > those people are already online, the other 398 must wait their turn?Cox uses static ip addresses. At least they're supposed to be.
Sometimes it changes, but normally I get the same ip every time I power
on my system.
Are you claiming that a person can change the MAC of a cable modem
without changing any hardware? I'm not aware of any ethernet devices
that let you change the MAC, as this would create a potential collision
with another device. I have a Toshiba PCX2600, are you claiming there's
a hack to change the MAC of this cable modem?
If you replace the NIC or motherboard getting a new MAC there, it
doesn't change your ip at Cox, since it's assigned by the software
downloaded by Cox Cable into your cable modem. Your ip probably changes
if you replace the cable modem, but this requires calling into Cox,
giving them your new Cable Modem's MAC, so they can download the
controlling software into it.
"Jeff Reid" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
> Cox uses static ip addresses. At least they're supposed to be.
> Sometimes it changes, but normally I get the same ip every time I power
> on my system.
Testing IP change....
"Jeff Reid" <[email hidden]> wrote in message
news:[email hidden]...
> Cox uses static ip addresses. At least they're supposed to be.
> Sometimes it changes, but normally I get the same ip every time I power
> on my system.
Do they actually state that everyone gets a static IP or does it cost extra?
With Comcast, my dynamic IP doesn't normally change. The lease gets renewed
every couple of days or so, at least I think that's how it goes...
>
> Are you claiming that a person can change the MAC of a cable modem
> without changing any hardware? I'm not aware of any ethernet devices
> that let you change the MAC, as this would create a potential collision
> with another device. I have a Toshiba PCX2600, are you claiming there's
> a hack to change the MAC of this cable modem?
I don't need to change the MAC of the cable modem to change my IP, only the
ethernet card. If you look at the headers for this message and an earlier
one, my IP should be different now.
> If you replace the NIC or motherboard getting a new MAC there, it
> doesn't change your ip at Cox, since it's assigned by the software
> downloaded by Cox Cable into your cable modem.
Have you actually tried anything to see if this is true or not?
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> I don't need to change the MAC of the cable modem to change my IP, only
> the ethernet card. If you look at the headers for this message and an
> earlier one, my IP should be different now.
Oops, there it changes again. :D
>> If you replace the NIC or motherboard getting a new MAC there, it
>> doesn't change your ip at Cox, since it's assigned by the software
>> downloaded by Cox Cable into your cable modem.
>
> Have you actually tried anything to see if this is true or not?
I use onboard ethernet controllers. I upgraded from a D850GBAL to
a D875PBZ based system which obviously had a different MAC than
the old system, and the ip remained the same.
I upgraded cable modems (from 10mbs half duplex to 100mbs full
duplex), and had to call into Cox Cable to tell then the new
MAC before the new cable modem would work. I don't remember if
the ip changed or not.
I have two computers at home. Originally, I used a router,
and the two computers shared a single ip. Cox supports up
to 4 computers this way, all sharing the same ip (just
like the firewall setup at my company). I then upgraded to
having two ip's, one per computer (for old online games).
I had to replace the router with switcher, and then have
Cox enable the seperate ip service. You can up to 3 ip's
on 3 computers max. When I made this change, the two new
ip's were different than the old single ip. Regardless of
how I plug into the computers, or which one is powered on
first, each computer always seems to get the same ip. So
maybe now it's following the motheborard's NIC MAC now.
I don't know how to change the MAC, seems like this would
be a bad idea since it would create a potential conflict
between 2 ethernet devices. Still if there's a way,
I'm curious.
> earlier one, my IP should be different now.
>
> Oops, there it changes again. :D
I can do this too, but I do it the old fashion way, by going
to a friends house (just down the street), or to work and
posting from there.
Look at my post at 3:07 pm today, I went to France and back
to California in just a few hours. As I posted before,
it's my company's ISP. That French company was one of the
first internet providers and is pretty popular.
