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N4: and "Internal" soundcard...??

10 posts by 6 people · 10 Jul 2001 19:34 UTC - 17 Jul 2001 03:06 UTC

Ed Solheim 10 Jul 2001 19:34 UTC#174155
I got a MSI K7T-Turbo R otherboard with VIA KT133a chipset and on-board sound chip. Should I use this on-board sound thingy or would I be better off using my SB Live PCI card ? What's the pros and cons.? ed_
I had the exact same motherboard and let me tell you of my experiences. First, if you install your SB Live card, DO NOT install it in the first slot. It will not work and will just lock up your machine I used the onboard sound for awhile before I figured out why my SB Live was locking up my machine and while it sounds ok, there is a problem where after a while of use, it just stops working. Sound completely goes away until you reboot, never could figure out why. I would use your SB Live card (make sure you disable the onboard sound in the bios) and just make sure you do not put the SB Live card in the first slot. "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:nMI27.4358$[email hidden]... > I got a MSI K7T-Turbo R otherboard with VIA KT133a chipset and on-board > sound chip. > > Should I use this on-board sound thingy or would I be better off using mySB
Quoted text (8 lines)> Live PCI card ? > > What's the pros and cons.? > > > ed_ > >
On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 21:34:59 +0200, "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (11 lines)>I got a MSI K7T-Turbo R otherboard with VIA KT133a chipset and on-board >sound chip. > >Should I use this on-board sound thingy or would I be better off using my SB >Live PCI card ? > >What's the pros and cons.? > > >ed_ >
I have onboard sound too (AC,97) but after using it for a while I went back to my SB Live!. I found the onboard sound is generally inferior (some crackling) and it doesn't do 3D sound hardware acceleration (inferior performance).
I had a feeling this would be the case... time to get back to the SBlive and EAX then :) Thx. ed_ Noddy wrote:
Quoted text (7 lines)> > I have onboard sound too (AC,97) but after using it for a while I went > back to my SB Live!. I found the onboard sound is generally inferior > (some crackling) and it doesn't do 3D sound hardware acceleration > (inferior performance). > >
I know the live has some issues(isn't that such a PRECISE term?) :) with via chipsets, but I never recomend using onboard sound. I have the same board but non raid...check your supplier, there may be a quiet recall, and turned the sound off right away. dave henrie "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:nMI27.4358$[email hidden]... > I got a MSI K7T-Turbo R otherboard with VIA KT133a chipset and on-board > sound chip. > > Should I use this on-board sound thingy or would I be better off using mySB
Quoted text (8 lines)> Live PCI card ? > > What's the pros and cons.? > > > ed_ > >
Okey, this was a bit easier said than done.... :-( No matter what I do or where put the card, I'll get a "general page fault" when trying to boot windows up after having gotten windows to recognize and install drivers for the card.. I.E Windows will boot if I move the card to a new PCI-slot... but it will crash the next time I try to boot-up.... and moving the card form slot to slot - isnt exactly a neat solution.... Anyone got any ideas here? I "deleted" the old "card" in windows and disabled all sound releated things in the bios before i installed the Live! card. I've also tried to move the card to differrent slots.. #1, 2, 4, and 5 I think... I've download the latest drivers from Creative aswell as VIA... I also beleive I got the latest bios for my MSI KT7-Turbo R m/b.. Any ideas? ed_ Sometime last night I wrote: > I had a feeling this would be the case... time to get back to the SBliveand
Quoted text (13 lines)> EAX then :) > > Thx. > > ed_ > > > Noddy wrote: > > > > I have onboard sound too (AC,97) but after using it for a while I went > > back to my SB Live!. I found the onboard sound is generally inferior > > (some crackling) and it doesn't do 3D sound hardware acceleration > > (inferior performance).
Hi, I got a MSI K7T-Turbo mobo with a SB live working fine after a long battle :-( These are the steps u should follow to get it right : - Flash latest bios in the MSI board (v 2.8) http://www.msi.com.tw/support/bios/mainboard/6xxx/6330/w6330v28.exe This takes care of the incompatibility issues of the Via kt133a chipset, 686b southbridge with the SB live, i.e. data corruption. read more here : http://www.viahardware.com/686bfaq.shtm#_Toc518065962 - Disable in bios : onchip sound, legacy sb enable memory by SPD if u dont use both (via) IDE channels, disable them as well ( or the one u don't use) this frees IRQ 14 and/or 15, which will be taken by the Promise raid controller. - I've the sb card in PCI slot 4, arrange your cards so that it's irq is not shared with other devices. ( preferably it should have IRQ 5) - Install the latest Via 4in1 driverset : http://download.viahardware.com/4in1432v.zip - I use the default WindowsME and Windows2000 (dualboot) Soundblaster Live drivers, especially in Win2k i had stuttering/crackling sound with the Creative drivers. - Another tweak to enable 4-way interleaving for your memory http://www.viahardware.com/download/george/MemoryEnable.zip Should give a little boost in memory speed. - Enable EAX in N4 and enjoy the most richest sound youl'le heard in a racing sim :-) Hope this helps a bit, Ciao, Remco. Noddy wrote:
Quoted text (24 lines)> On Tue, 10 Jul 2001 21:34:59 +0200, "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> > wrote: > > >>I got a MSI K7T-Turbo R otherboard with VIA KT133a chipset and on-board >>sound chip. >> >>Should I use this on-board sound thingy or would I be better off using my SB >>Live PCI card ? >> >>What's the pros and cons.? >> >> >>ed_ >> >> > > I have onboard sound too (AC,97) but after using it for a while I went > back to my SB Live!. I found the onboard sound is generally inferior > (some crackling) and it doesn't do 3D sound hardware acceleration > (inferior performance). > > >
Remco R. wrote: > > I got a MSI K7T-Turbo mobo with a SB live working fine after a long > battle :-( THANKS A MILLION FOR THIS GREAT GUIDE! You've saved me hours of time for sure.. I followed it to my best knowlegde and now everything work like a charm . It's so nice to have proper sound in N4 again - EAX et al.. :-) Now.. having said that.... > if u dont use both (via) IDE channels, disable them as well ( or the one > u don't use) this frees IRQ 14 and/or 15, which will be taken by the > Promise raid controller. Can you tell me how/where I disable this?? I've looked everywhere - but no luck.. I'm currently using IDE 0 for my C and D-harddisks... and IDE1 for my DVD and CDRW. Whilch means I should be able to disable (if possible) the 3rd and 4th IDE channels (the Promise ones..) I have disabled both my Comm-ports tho.. I dont use them anyway. :-) Btw, anyone know any good Award Bios-guides out there? ed_
Other than starting out completey fresh, no...either deltree windows or fdisk the whole hard drive. dave henrie "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:1DT27.4843$[email hidden]... > Okey, this was a bit easier said than done.... :-( > > No matter what I do or where put the card, I'll get a "general page fault"
I have the onboard VIA AC97 sound on my ASUS A7V133, and I tried it while trying to narrow down some Windows XP issues. It SUCKED! N4 didn't even work right with it. Issued nothing but a high-pitched squeal sound. These on-board audio things are mainly for business audio... There is hope. The specs on the nVidia nForce chipset are extremely promising in all area's, especially sound. They are really going all-out on the sound! -Larry "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:nMI27.4358$[email hidden]... > I got a MSI K7T-Turbo R otherboard with VIA KT133a chipset and on-board > sound chip. > > Should I use this on-board sound thingy or would I be better off using mySB
Quoted text (8 lines)> Live PCI card ? > > What's the pros and cons.? > > > ed_ > >

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