Please Help me at Zandvoort (GPL)

I my seeming never-ending quest to go "negative", I'm currently concentrating on Zandvoort, where I've yet to beat the Papy benchmark time. I just don't seem to "get" this track. GPLReplayAnalyser will tell me where I'm slow, but I don't seem to be able to do anything about it. Frustration is beginning to reach Eldred-esque levels...... Would some kind souls please look at my PB (1:27.43) replay? You can download it from: http://www.geocities.com/fuzzyian/GPL_Rubbish.html (I also have a Rouen PB replay up there that you can be rude about too....Both files are <150kB) Many thanks for any assistance! Ian -- Ian Riches GPL Rank +6.19 Monsters of GPL +326.93

"Ian Riches" <[email hidden]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag news:[email hidden]... Hi! Visited your hp and wondered why you are still positive with a 1:58 at SPA ???? Just kidding! As for Zandvoort: Rhythm is everything. Slow into corners, fast out of corners. Use the track. Regards Crash

On Wed, 11 Jul 2001 12:54:03 +0200, "Joachim Blum" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>"Ian Riches" <[email hidden]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag >news:[email hidden]... > >Hi! > >Visited your hp and wondered why you are still positive with a 1:58 at SPA >????

Hmm..I feel some website editing coming on...... >Just kidding! >As for Zandvoort: Rhythm is everything. Slow into corners, fast out of >corners. Use the track. I seem to have a choice at the moment: 1) Slow into corners. Slow out of corners. 2) Slow into corners. Fast out of first bit of corner. Visit scenery. 3) Fast into corner. Visit scenery I do try and use the track. I find it gives much better laptimes than the alternative. :-) Ian > >Regards >Crash > -- Ian Riches GPL Rank +6.19 Monsters of GPL +326.93

Your Zandy time isn't bad at all, it's your Ring time that's letting you down. "Ian Riches" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> I my seeming never-ending quest to go "negative", I'm currently > concentrating on Zandvoort, where I've yet to beat the Papy benchmark > time. > > I just don't seem to "get" this track. GPLReplayAnalyser will tell me > where I'm slow, but I don't seem to be able to do anything about it. > > Frustration is beginning to reach Eldred-esque levels...... > > Would some kind souls please look at my PB (1:27.43) replay? You can > download it from: > > http://www.geocities.com/fuzzyian/GPL_Rubbish.html > > (I also have a Rouen PB replay up there that you can be rude about > too....Both files are <150kB) > > Many thanks for any assistance! > > Ian > -- > Ian Riches > GPL Rank +6.19 Monsters of GPL +326.93

On Wed, 11 Jul 2001 11:04:42 GMT, "Simon Brown" <[email hidden]> wrote: >Your Zandy time isn't bad at all, it's your Ring time that's letting you >down. > Yeh - but thanks to the "challenges" of a near hyperactive one-year old, the time required for a serious assault on the 'ring is rarely found. Zandy's a lot shorter :-) I also figure that getting better at these "flowing corner" circuits will be no bad thing for the 'ring. I'm also slower than the Papy benchmark at Mosport... Ian -- Ian Riches GPL Rank +6.19 Monsters of GPL +326.93

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > Yeh - but thanks to the "challenges" of a near hyperactive one-year > old, the time required for a serious assault on the 'ring is rarely > found. > Ian Riches > GPL Rank +6.19 Monsters of GPL +326.93 Ahh.. but if you have no time, how did you find enough to get a Monsters of GPL ranking. Got you there!:-) - Michael

On Wed, 11 Jul 2001 12:53:45 +0100, MP <[email hidden]> wrote:

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>In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] >says... >> Yeh - but thanks to the "challenges" of a near hyperactive one-year >> old, the time required for a serious assault on the 'ring is rarely >> found. > >> Ian Riches >> GPL Rank +6.19 Monsters of GPL +326.93 > >Ahh.. but if you have no time, how did you find enough to get a Monsters >of GPL ranking. Got you there!:-)

Easy :-) I have a reasonable amount of time - but generally in 20-30 minute bursts. Enough time to do a few good laps at the shorter tracks - but barely enough to post a valid laptime at the 'ring. Besides - evryone should drive the BRM once in a while. It's good for you! Ian -- Ian Riches GPL Rank +6.19 Monsters of GPL +326.93

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> > I my seeming never-ending quest to go "negative", I'm currently > concentrating on Zandvoort, where I've yet to beat the Papy benchmark > time. > > I just don't seem to "get" this track. GPLReplayAnalyser will tell me > where I'm slow, but I don't seem to be able to do anything about it. > > Frustration is beginning to reach Eldred-esque levels...... > > Would some kind souls please look at my PB (1:27.43) replay? You can > download it from:

I used to suck like a hoover at Zandy. Hated it. Was stuck in the low 1.30's until I started looking at the LOR track guides http://www.gmmhost.co.uk/gmmhost/legendscentral/LOR/trackguides/gpl/index.html They have VERY good ferrari setups (balanced, no funny rear end steer) and replays. Stick it into replay analyser and look at the replay. The interesting thing I found is that the guy on the replay uses 4th gear for almost the whole last 3/4 of the lap. More torque, less wheelspin, more control. I now have a PB of 1.26.49. Likewise for silverstone. I think you should have a look at mexico too. (just checked out your rank :) ) Take a look at those guides. Kev (-0.46)

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On 11 Jul 2001 13:09:11 GMT, [email hidden] (MarsonFJ) wrote: >Check your hotmail Ian, written you a piece about tour reply that *MIGHT* help >you!!! Got the mail - thanks for taking the time. It looks very useful information. Ian -- Ian Riches GPL Rank +6.19 Monsters of GPL +326.93

On Wed, 11 Jul 2001 14:05:45 +0100, Kevin Clark <[email hidden]> wrote: >Ian Riches wrote: >> <my Zany woes snipped> > > >I used to suck like a hoover at Zandy. Hated it. Was stuck in the low >1.30's until I started looking at the LOR track guides >http://www.gmmhost.co.uk/gmmhost/legendscentral/LOR/trackguides/gpl/index.html Thanks for the link. I remeber seeing this a while ago - but had forgotten all about it. >They have VERY good ferrari setups (balanced, no funny rear end steer) >and replays. Stick it into replay analyser and look at the replay. The >interesting thing I found is that the guy on the replay uses 4th gear >for almost the whole last 3/4 of the lap. More torque, less wheelspin, >more control. I now have a PB of 1.26.49. I do stick in 4th at the moment - from Hunzerug to the last corner (Pulleveld) where I drop down to 3rd. >Likewise for silverstone. I think you should have a look at mexico too. >(just checked out your rank :) ) Yeah - I suck at Mexico too :-) Thanks for the info! Ian -- Ian Riches GPL Rank +6.19 Monsters of GPL +326.93

On Wed, 11 Jul 2001 14:05:45 +0100, Kevin Clark <my Zany woes snipped> Thanks for the link. I remeber seeing this a while ago - but had forgotten all about it. I do stick in 4th at the moment - from Hunzerug to the last corner (Pulleveld) where I drop down to 3rd. Yeah - I suck at Mexico too :-) Thanks for the info! Ian -- Ian Riches GPL Rank +6.19 Monsters of GPL +326.93

"Ian Riches" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> On Wed, 11 Jul 2001 12:54:03 +0200, "Joachim Blum" > <[email hidden]> wrote: > > >"Ian Riches" <[email hidden]> schrieb im Newsbeitrag > >news:[email hidden]... > I seem to have a choice at the moment: > > 1) Slow into corners. Slow out of corners. > 2) Slow into corners. Fast out of first bit of corner. Visit > scenery. > 3) Fast into corner. Visit scenery >

1) If u visit the scenery on the outside of the turn u have a classic case of understeer solution front: soften shocks and/or roll bar and/or increase neg toe rear: reverse of front 2) If u visit the scenery on the inside of the turn u have a classic case of oversteer solution reverse of 1) also if u get excessive wheel spin check clutches don't say all this could help 'cause setups/drivin' style is a personal thing but IMHO it may help Alan

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] says... > Easy :-) > > I have a reasonable amount of time - but generally in 20-30 minute > bursts. I understand - I have a 2 year old daughter:-) I don't even attempt any GPL hotlapping until after everyone's gone to bed! - Michael

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Ian Riches) writes: >Besides - evryone should drive the BRM once in a while. It's good for >you! Sure, if you're a masochist... Eldred -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +366.59... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

In article <[email hidden]>, [email hidden] (Ian Riches) writes:

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>I my seeming never-ending quest to go "negative", I'm currently >concentrating on Zandvoort, where I've yet to beat the Papy benchmark >time. > >I just don't seem to "get" this track. GPLReplayAnalyser will tell me >where I'm slow, but I don't seem to be able to do anything about it. > >Frustration is beginning to reach Eldred-esque levels......

Man, I'm *real* sorry to hear that. Frustration is NOT a good thing... Eldred p.s. But you're STILL faster than me... -- Dale Earnhardt, Sr. R.I.P. 1951-2001 Homepage - http://www.umich.edu/~epickett F1 hcp. +16.36...Monster +366.59... Never argue with an idiot. He brings you down to his level, then beats you with experience... Remove SPAM-OFF to reply.

Well *tanks* can be driven in the war games too!! :o)~ "Ian Riches" wrote: | Besides - evryone should drive the BRM once in a while. It's good for | you!

>1) Slow into corners. Slow out of corners. >2) Slow into corners. Fast out of first bit of corner. Visit >scenery. >3) Fast into corner. Visit scenery ROFL That's me all over!