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N4 crashes immediately at start up

2 posts by 2 people · 13 Jul 2001 17:34 UTC - 13 Jul 2001 18:06 UTC

Brian Bowles 13 Jul 2001 17:34 UTC#173574
My friend installed N4 on his computer and it locks up within 3 seconds after it starts. What could be some probable causes? Here is his system: Pentium III 850mhz Riva TNT 2 Pro 128mb of ram Thanks, Brian Bowles
Brian.... The "causes" are too numerous to list. Read and follow the directions in the N4 "readme.txt" file....that will probably cover 90% of the causes/issues. Below...is a list of settings that will help, maybe fix the crash issue. Tom Pabst ***GeForce 2 (MX, GTS, ULTRA) and GeForce 3*** "Tweaks and Settings" for N4 **************** General Settings **************** **Desktop Color: Set to 16-bit color. **DirectX: Use a DX 8.0 compatible driver(NvRef drivers 7.0 or higher, 12.0 and up for GF3 cards). **OpenGL or D3D?: Run OpenGL for N4 in "XXXX"x16 (use a res compatible with your CPU speed and ram). **Monitor: Obtain the latest drivers for your monitor...DO NOT USE Windows "Plug and Play" monitor drivers! Set your refresh rate at the highest setting you are allowed for your monitor at the specific screen res you run N4 at. ******************************** Advanced Settings Tab For OpenGL ******************************** In The Scroll Down Box: [*]Enable Buffer Region Extension. (Checked) [*]Allow the dual planes extension to us local video memory. (Checked) [*]Use fast linear-mipmap-linear filtering. (Checked) [ ]Enable anistropic filtering. (Unchecked) Individual Scroll Down Boxes: Default Color Depth for Textures: [Always Use 16 bpp] Buffer Flipping Mode: [Use page flip] Vertical sync: [Always off] Full Scene Antialiasing Method: [Always off] (note: this is not here on a GF3 card which has its own antialiasing screen) Use up to [62] MB of system memory for textures in PCI mode. ************************** Mother Board BIOS Settings ************************** Video BIOS Shadow............[Disabled] Video BIOS Cache.............[Disabled] Palette Snoop................[Disabled] AGP Turbo (or Fast Write)....[Enabled]* AGP Aperture Size (MB).......[128]* AGP ISA Aliasing.............[Disabled]* AGP Secondary Lat Timer......[20h]* AGP Data Transfer Mode.......[4x]* K7 Clk_Cntrl Select..........[Optimal]* PnP Aware OS.................[Yes] Resources Controlled by......[Auto] Assign IRQ to VGA............[Yes] Note: (*) Items above will appear only on mobos with 2x compliant AGP bus. If you don't have one of these mobos now, DO NOT waste your time and money to purchase a fast Nvidia card....its a complete waste! DO NOT FLASH or upgrade your system BIOS UNLESS YOU ARE HAVING PROBLEMS WITH YOUR MOBO....that are **specifically addressed** in the BIOS upgrade (see the Readme.txt file for your BIOS flash upgrade). Flashing your system BIOS is risky business....and you can render your mobo completely inoperable if you screw even the slightest thing up in following the steps. You've been warned! Ask Dave Henrie! ******************** Mobo Chipset Drivers ******************** Your mobo contains two "chips" similar to your CPU chip (but smaller) that control all the functions of your mobo (system bus, AGP bus, IDE controllers, etc.). The one located closest to the CPU is called the "northbridge" chip, and the one furthest away is called the "southbridge" chip. The northbrigde chip is very important for video graphics since it controls the system bus and AGP bus (among others). THE SINGLE MOST IMPORTANT THING YOU CAN DO FOR YOUR GRAPHIC'S CARD SPEED AND STABLE OPERATION IS INSTALL AND MAINTAIN THE CHIPSET DRIVERS IN THE LATEST **DRIVER VERSION**. This applies to Intel and AMD platforms, but is critical in all AMD platforms! There are several "chipset" manufacturers and you must determine which one you have on your mobo. I can tell you that VIA is the most popular, but ALI and AMD also make chipsets. Once you've determined which you have, go to that manufacturer's website (bookmark it...you will need to check for version updates at least monthly). Download and very carefully install the latest chipset drivers for your mobo. This is an area where I have seen the most improvement in frame rates and graphic quality. DO NOT DO THIS CASUALLY.....READ AND FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT AND HOW YOU ARE TO INSTALL THESE CHIPSET DRIVERS! Chipset drivers can easily get corrupted with normal operations....especially running a lot of pc games. I install mine every week.....whether needed or not. You can "over-write" install them....its very simple to do once you have the routine down. ******************************* Windows Virtual Memory Settings ******************************* Many sim racers have had problems with "screen stutter"....usually occurring as the car is entering a turn. This happens at this point because the FPS slows....just as the requirements for a faster FPS are greater (when turning...the screen is rapidly changing the scenery and background). If your system is at the same time accessing the Windows Swap file (located on your hard-drive)....you can get this screen stutter (a brief, usually less than a second "freeze" of the screen). This can occur independently of the type of video card you use....and the amount of system RAM (although that doesn't totally make sense to me....but I get this screen stutter on both my systems, one has 512 MB of ram, the other has 738 MB of ram...so go figure?). One way to reduce or eliminate this problem is to remove Windows from control of your Virtual Memory (that's the swap file). Windows will increase and decrease it as needed (on your hard drive)....and as that area of your hard drive becomes fragmented, Windows doesn't clean it up for you (nor does defragmenting your hard drive....that only defragments the area of the hard drive outside of this swap file)...it will just keep taking more and more drive space to satisfy its (often incorrect) evaluation of how much "virtual memory" it needs for the ops you are running. The **Quick Fix**.....is to take control of your Swap File hard drive space allocation. To do this, follow these directions: 1. Go to the "Windows Virtual Memory" settings box (right click "My Computer" -select- "Properties" - select- "Performance Tab" -select- "Virtual Memory" [button] on lower right side of box. 2. Select "Let me specify my own Virtual Memory settings." bullet. 3. Set the Minimum and Maximum **to the same value**....this is very important! [This will keep the swap file from being re-sized all the time.] 4. Set the value at something between 2x to 4x your physical RAM memory (remember the Value is entered in KB, not MB). Example: With 128 MB ram, at 2.5xRAM = 320 MB (entered as: 3200 KB in the box). 5. Restart your computer as Windows requests. 6. Go back and make sure the settings you made are still there....and check this regularly. Windows has a nasty habit of deleting this stuff all the time....and taking back over the management of VM. I've never been able to figure out a "pattern" for when Windows does this....I just know that half the time....when I check this.....Windows has taken back control of VM and I have to reset it to the above settings. ***DOING THIS WILL SOLVE THE N4 FRAME STUTTER......assuming you have no other "issues" with IRQ sharing and so forth. I also found this solves the same problem in GPL...when using the high-res cockpits and race tracks. The **Long-Term Fix**.....is to purchase software that will allow you to defragment the area of your hard-drive that is allocated for the swap file. These programs can also allow you to partition your HD so you can locate the swap file in this partition, which will reduce resizing and fragmentation even further. There are several programs to do this, ask around. I don't use them, because I just "fdisk" and "format C" my HD regularly....having a "clone" of my "race box" system and programs on a CD. Its much easier, and completely refreshes my system (I usually do this monthly).

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