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LOTS of new shots of Rally Trophy

24 posts by 15 people · 20 Jul 2001 15:42 UTC - 24 Jul 2001 07:49 UTC

Bugbear posts new Rally Trophy screenshots

Bugbear 3D artist Ilari Lehtinen pointed to new in-game screenshots of the historic rally sim Rally Trophy. When a poster complained of unrealistically wide, smooth roads, Bugbear staff explained that camera field of view exaggerates width, that stage widths vary, and that off-road surfaces affect handling. They also confirmed cockpit views, varied weather and upcoming hands-on previews.

With Ilari Lehtinen, Sami Raiha (Bugbear Entertainment)

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Ho hum. Another rally game that thinks these events are held on 10 metre wide smooth dirt freeways, yet calls itself a "simulation". The graphics look pretty, though, if that's what you're really after. GMF "Ilari Lehtinen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9j9jdi$kaa$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (10 lines)> .. over at http://www.simactu.com/articles/screenshots_contenu.php3?id=109 > > Enjoy :-) > > Ilari Lehtinen > 3D Artist > Bugbear Entertainment > > >
August 17th was the last I heard "Tim Miser" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (7 lines)> Looks very cool! Is there a release date for RT? > > -Tim > > "Ilari Lehtinen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:9j9jdi$kaa$[email hidden]... > > .. over at
http://www.simactu.com/articles/screenshots_contenu.php3?id=109
Quoted text (11 lines)> > > > Enjoy :-) > > > > Ilari Lehtinen > > 3D Artist > > Bugbear Entertainment > > > > > > > >
They can make them 100 meters wide, as far as I'm concerned -- IF they get the physics right, and I think the folks at Bugbear are going to do just that. They play GPL, they know what the benchmark is, and I have a feeling that (Historic) Rally Trophy may be THE hottest sim title we'll see this year. -- JB On Sat, 21 Jul 2001 01:28:38 GMT, "G M Fude" <[email hidden]> wrote:
Quoted text (21 lines)>Ho hum. Another rally game that thinks these events are held on 10 metre >wide smooth dirt freeways, yet calls itself a "simulation". The graphics >look pretty, though, if that's what you're really after. > >GMF > > >"Ilari Lehtinen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message >news:9j9jdi$kaa$[email hidden]... >> .. over at http://www.simactu.com/articles/screenshots_contenu.php3?id=109 >> >> Enjoy :-) >> >> Ilari Lehtinen >> 3D Artist >> Bugbear Entertainment >> >> >> > >
>"G M Fude" <[email hidden]> wrote > Ho hum. Another rally game that thinks these events are held on 10 metre > wide smooth dirt freeways, yet calls itself a "simulation". Hmmm check out dejanews we had a discussion about that. It seems they are actually realistically modeled, but I'm still not 100% sure about that. -- -- Fran�ois M�nard <ymenard> -- May the Downforce be with you... -- http://www.ymenard.com/ -- This announcement is brought to you by the Shimato Dominguez Corporation - helping America into the New World...
Damnit! *When* will I learn to hit that Reply Group instead of just Reply .. Again I sent my original answer directly via email. Bah! anyways, here goes again.. * Why '?' after the 'shots'? Ok, we've been accused of prerendering screenshots for PR purposes but nope, all shots are in-game. Anyways, yes, it's a Ford Lotus Cortina :) -Ilari "redTed" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9jbjcp$n9957$[email hidden]... > > Ilari Lehtinen <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:9j9jdi$kaa$[email hidden]... > > .. over athttp://www.simactu.com/articles/screenshots_contenu.php3?id=109 > > > > Enjoy :-) > > If that is a Lotus Cortina in some of those shots(?) then it's aguaranteed > purchase. > >
Mmmm... Now this is something I think I've answered before.. :) Camera FOV's make the roads easily look wider then they are. Sure, at some places and tracks the road is wide, but on the other hand, on some other places and other stages they can get pretty narrow. If it was carwidth-narrow all the way in the game, everyone would complain it's too hard and if it's all the way too wide, people will complain about making it too easy. Now we're just giving everyone an equal chance to complain about both ;) -Ilari "G M Fude" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:aV467.9069$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (10 lines)> Ho hum. Another rally game that thinks these events are held on 10 metre > wide smooth dirt freeways, yet calls itself a "simulation". The graphics > look pretty, though, if that's what you're really after. > > GMF > > > "Ilari Lehtinen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:9j9jdi$kaa$[email hidden]... > > .. over at
http://www.simactu.com/articles/screenshots_contenu.php3?id=109
Quoted text (11 lines)> > > > Enjoy :-) > > > > Ilari Lehtinen > > 3D Artist > > Bugbear Entertainment > > > > > > > >
In the 1000 Lakes rally they are fairly wide and fairly smooth. Can't tell if the screenshots are taken from that event though. Anyhow, I'd rather they compromise on the width and smoothness of the roads to aid playability than fudge the cars. Jan. =--- "ymenard" wrote... > ><snip> > Hmmm check out dejanews we had a discussion about that. It > seems they are actually realistically modeled, but I'm still > not 100% sure about that.
Next week there will be several hands-on previews appearing in the net, so you all have a chance of reading some unbiased views.. Even though the preview is pre-alpha code and doesn't have all the features in it, it gives a good feel on the game. -Ilari "Jan Verschueren" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > In the 1000 Lakes rally they are fairly wide and fairly smooth. Can't tell > if the screenshots are taken from that event though. > > Anyhow, I'd rather they compromise on the width and smoothness of theroads
Quoted text (11 lines)> to aid playability than fudge the cars. > > Jan. > =--- > "ymenard" wrote... > > ><snip> > > Hmmm check out dejanews we had a discussion about that. It > > seems they are actually realistically modeled, but I'm still > > not 100% sure about that. > >
"Ilari Lehtinen" <[email hidden]> kirjoitti viestiss� news:9jbkdd$1bv$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (7 lines)> Camera FOV's make the roads easily look wider then they are. Sure, at some > places and tracks the road is wide, but on the other hand, on some other > places and other stages they can get pretty narrow. > -Ilari > "G M Fude" <[email hidden]> wrote in > message news:aV467.9069$[email hidden]... > > Ho hum. Another rally game that thinks these events are held on 10
metre > > wide smooth dirt freeways, yet calls itself a "simulation". Thegraphics > > look pretty, though, if that's what you're really after. Hi, This is finnish sim? And as a Finn I remember very well our public country roads were appx. 6-8 metres wide at sixties and even at seventies. And rallys were held there. Mainly flat out. (remember usual top speeds were about 185 kph) Tapani
Does the grass or going off road effect the car inaccurately? Like some previous rally sims/gamulations? Charlie "Olav K. Malmin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > "Ilari Lehtinen" <[email hidden]> writes: > > > .. over athttp://www.simactu.com/articles/screenshots_contenu.php3?id=109
Quoted text (10 lines)> > A Volvo Amazon!!! > > Freaking great. Is there a 140 as well in the game ? > > This title is definately on my must buy list :) > > -- > Olav K. Malmin > remove .spam when replying
Fair enough. Thanks for correcting me, guys, I'm humbled! :) In Australia, we are usually removing shrubbery (bracken ferns and gum leaves, mostly) from the mirrors and door handles after a rally stage. :( GMF "Tapani Kaijanm�ki" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:9jc5ho$o59$[email hidden]... > "Ilari Lehtinen" <[email hidden]> kirjoitti viestiss� > news:9jbkdd$1bv$[email hidden]... > > Camera FOV's make the roads easily look wider then they are. Sure, atsome
Quoted text (20 lines)> > places and tracks the road is wide, but on the other hand, on some other > > places and other stages they can get pretty narrow. > > -Ilari > > "G M Fude" <[email hidden]> wrote in > > message news:aV467.9069$[email hidden]... > > > Ho hum. Another rally game that thinks these events are held on 10 > metre > > > wide smooth dirt freeways, yet calls itself a "simulation". The > graphics > > > look pretty, though, if that's what you're really after. > > Hi, > This is finnish sim? And as a Finn I remember very well our public country > roads were appx. 6-8 metres wide at sixties and even at seventies. And > rallys were held there. Mainly flat out. (remember usual top speeds were > about 185 kph) > > Tapani > >
Hi Charlie, (and all the others) Going off the road to grass won't always turn your speed down, but it's sure very slippery... :) There's also few other surfaces/platforms next to road as water, ditch, mud etc.. I'm sure these will slow you down a big time... ;) -Sami R�ih� 3D-Artist (car modeler) Email: [email hidden] "Charlie Buscher" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:M7j67.3140$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (25 lines)> Does the grass or going off road effect the car inaccurately? Like some > previous rally sims/gamulations? > > Charlie > > "Olav K. Malmin" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > "Ilari Lehtinen" <[email hidden]> writes: > > > > > .. over at > http://www.simactu.com/articles/screenshots_contenu.php3?id=109 > > > > A Volvo Amazon!!! > > > > Freaking great. Is there a 140 as well in the game ? > > > > This title is definately on my must buy list :) > > > > -- > > Olav K. Malmin > > remove .spam when replying > >
and perhaps the ability to drive the cars from within the vehicles??? dave henrie "Tim Miser" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > I failed to notice in any of the screenshots any adverse weather. Will > there be rain and snow? >
Tim 24 Jul 2001 00:02 UTC↳ reply to Tim Miser#171787
In article <[email hidden]>, Tim Miser <[email hidden]> wrote: > I failed to notice in any of the screenshots any adverse weather. Will > there be rain and snow? > > In an earlier screenshot there was a gorgeous in-car shot running down a long mountain slope in the snow. Didn't see any falling, just on all the trees and the ground, completely covered. Tim
There were at least 3 cockpit shots that I saw Dave. "Dave Henrie" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:T7177.398162$[email hidden]...
Quoted text (10 lines)> and perhaps the ability to drive the cars from within the vehicles??? > dave henrie > "Tim Miser" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I failed to notice in any of the screenshots any adverse weather. Will > > there be rain and snow? > > > > >
There is different weather conditions in the game. I don't remember if the press preview (pre-alpha) included stages w/ different weather or not. -Ilari Bugbear Entertainment "Tim Miser" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...
Quoted text (7 lines)> I failed to notice in any of the screenshots any adverse weather. Will > there be rain and snow? > > > "Ilari Lehtinen" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:9j9jdi$kaa$[email hidden]... > > .. over at
http://www.simactu.com/articles/screenshots_contenu.php3?id=109
Quoted text (11 lines)> > > > Enjoy :-) > > > > Ilari Lehtinen > > 3D Artist > > Bugbear Entertainment > > > > > > > >

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