Murphey'd at Monaco

Ok, I am not good at Monaco. Correction - I am not good anywhere - 1:53 mexico is about my best showing. Anyway, I thought I'd seriously attack this track from afresh, as my PB was a 1:34.9 in the Brabham. So, follow the same routine as any other track - a dozen laps in the Cooper, followed by a dozen in the Eagle, then on to Lotus - usual plan. Cooper - consistent but slow - 1:37s, not many spins. Eagle - now we're moving and its more stable - almost making the apex in the twisty bits (what IS the plural of "apex"?). 1:34.01 - that's a PB! Power on a bit earlier and we'll be in the 1:33s - up the hill, tail slides, into the guard rail and my Eagle is gyrating over the Mediterranean at a fixed height. "Click" and we're suddenly back at Windows desktop - GPL has NEVER before done that to me. No problem for a good driver who just remembers his line that time, restarts and repeats, but what use is that to me? Back out can NOT get a clean lap in the Eagle again... duh! Not looking for anything but sympathy! -- Laurence Wilmer [email hidden] --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.265 / Virus Database: 137 - Release Date: 18/07/01

An just after posting that, had to try again. 2nd flying lap in the Eagle a 1:33.3 which just goes to show that posting to rac makes you feel better and drive better! -- Laurence Wilmer [email hidden] "Laurence Wilmer" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:IiW57.11425$[email hidden]... > Ok, I am not good at Monaco. Correction - I am not good anywhere - > 1:53 mexico is about my best showing. Anyway, I thought I'd seriously > attack this track from afresh, as my PB was a 1:34.9 in the Brabham. > So, follow the same routine as any other track - a dozen laps in the > Cooper, followed by a dozen in the Eagle, then on to Lotus - usual > plan. > Cooper - consistent but slow - 1:37s, not many spins. > Eagle - now we're moving and its more stable - almost making the apex > in the twisty bits (what IS the plural of "apex"?). 1:34.01 - that's a > PB! Power on a bit earlier and we'll be in the 1:33s - up the hill, > tail slides, into the guard rail and my Eagle is gyrating over the > Mediterranean at a fixed height. "Click" and we're suddenly back at > Windows desktop - GPL has NEVER before done that to me. > No problem for a good driver who just remembers his line that time, > restarts and repeats, but what use is that to me? > Back out can NOT get a clean lap in the Eagle again... duh! > Not looking for anything but sympathy! > > -- > Laurence Wilmer > [email hidden] > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.265 / Virus Database: 137 - Release Date: 18/07/01 > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.265 / Virus Database: 137 - Release Date: 18/07/01

Laurence Wilmer wrote:

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> > Ok, I am not good at Monaco. Correction - I am not good anywhere - > 1:53 mexico is about my best showing. Anyway, I thought I'd seriously > attack this track from afresh, as my PB was a 1:34.9 in the Brabham. > So, follow the same routine as any other track - a dozen laps in the > Cooper, followed by a dozen in the Eagle, then on to Lotus - usual > plan. > Cooper - consistent but slow - 1:37s, not many spins. > Eagle - now we're moving and its more stable - almost making the apex > in the twisty bits (what IS the plural of "apex"?). 1:34.01 - that's a > PB! Power on a bit earlier and we'll be in the 1:33s - up the hill, > tail slides, into the guard rail and my Eagle is gyrating over the > Mediterranean at a fixed height. "Click" and we're suddenly back at > Windows desktop - GPL has NEVER before done that to me. > No problem for a good driver who just remembers his line that time, > restarts and repeats, but what use is that to me? > Back out can NOT get a clean lap in the Eagle again... duh! > Not looking for anything but sympathy!

Hi Laurence, Personally I'd dump the eagle. It's very long and wide and a bit too big for monaco. Try the Brabham again or maybe the nimble ferrari. They're much more suited to the tight corners. There's a good Ferrari setup on the LOR track guide page http://www.gmmhost.co.uk/gmmhost/legendscentral/LOR/trackguides/gpl/index.html and a replay. Very tricky track that. Kev

"Kevin Clark" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]... > Laurence Wilmer wrote: > > > > Ok, I am not good at Monaco. Correction - I am not good anywhere - > > 1:53 mexico is about my best showing. Anyway, I thought I'dseriously > > attack this track from afresh, as my PB was a 1:34.9 in theBrabham. > > So, follow the same routine as any other track - a dozen laps inthe > > Cooper, followed by a dozen in the Eagle, then on to Lotus - usual > > plan. > > Cooper - consistent but slow - 1:37s, not many spins. > > Eagle - now we're moving and its more stable - almost making theapex > > in the twisty bits (what IS the plural of "apex"?). 1:34.01 -that's a > > PB! Power on a bit earlier and we'll be in the 1:33s - up thehill, > > tail slides, into the guard rail and my Eagle is gyrating over the > > Mediterranean at a fixed height. "Click" and we're suddenly backat > > Windows desktop - GPL has NEVER before done that to me. > > No problem for a good driver who just remembers his line thattime,

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> > restarts and repeats, but what use is that to me? > > Back out can NOT get a clean lap in the Eagle again... duh! > > Not looking for anything but sympathy! > > Hi Laurence, > > Personally I'd dump the eagle. > It's very long and wide and a bit too big for monaco. Try the

Brabham > again or maybe the nimble ferrari. They're much more suited to thetight corners. > > There's a good Ferrari setup on the LOR track guide page >http://www.gmmhost.co.uk/gmmhost/legendscentral/LOR/trackguides/gpl/in dex.html > and a replay. > > Very tricky track that. > > KevYes, I know that theory about the Brabham, but in practice I can't hold it under braking into Gazometres. I think its because my T2 has single axis pedals, and coming right off the throttle to apply the brakes unsettles any car, especially the Brabham right there. Also especially Big Bend at Watkins! (and that hairpin at Rouen). I think I just don't have enough stability to do any trail braking, and this is why all my times are poor (GPL Rank 106). That's my excuse, anyway. The Eagle has good stability if not much else. Cheers, -- Laurence Wilmer [email hidden] --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.265 / Virus Database: 137 - Release Date: 18/07/01

In article <WeY57.12710$[email hidden]>, "Laurence Wilmer" <[email hidden]> writes:

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> > Yes, I know that theory about the Brabham, but in practice I can't > hold it under braking into Gazometres. I think its because my T2 has > single axis pedals, and coming right off the throttle to apply the > brakes unsettles any car, especially the Brabham right there. Also > especially Big Bend at Watkins! (and that hairpin at Rouen). I think I > just don't have enough stability to do any trail braking, and this is > why all my times are poor (GPL Rank 106). That's my excuse, anyway.

I use a T2 as well, and have gotten my handicap down to -3.79 with it, and still falling. It breaks a lot, but when it's working, it's a decent unit. I have no trouble trail braking with it either. You just need to practice, the T2 works fine. As for Gazometres, the gas+brake technique probably would help on a system with dual-axis pedals, but the T2 obviously can't do that. I find though, that a sufficiently stable setup is all you need to get through there reasonably quickly. Try Alison's setups; they are fundamentally stable, with a fair amount of understeer. That helps keep you from swapping ends in those curved braking zones like the one before Gazometres. And you can get rid of the understeer in corners where you don't want it via trail braking. Works for me, more or less. I'm sure that a dual-axis system would allow somewhat more speed, but I've done a 1:28.86 at Monaco in the Ferrari, with Alison's setup and my T2. The combination is certainly good enough to get below all the Papy times. Hope it helps, Marc