NASCAR 4 bug query

I couldn't find any reference to this problem on this newsgroup so I wanted to see if anyone else has seen it. Regularly AI drivers on the first dropping of the green flag are cutting hard left down into the grass and then driving through the infield into the first turn. Usually about 3 drivers do it, in the back. Often they are a row or two behind me. On one occasion the guy to the outside of me did it and ran into me, driving me into the infield. If 3 drivers do it, they move together like synchronized swimmers (i.e. they are not trying to avoid each other, but rather all seem to be taking an "alternative line" {if you can call it that}). Anybody else see this? I have a new PC; P4 1.7 Ghz, 512 MB RAM. Part of me wonders if this is a bug caused by the chip being too fast, only because the original DOS Red Baron used to exhibit similar pilot weirdness when you ran it on a Pentium chip. Otherwise I'm wondering why nobody has mentioned and why it hasn't been fixed in a patch... I've definitely seen this happen at Daytona; not sure about other tracks. Patrick

I believe this is a known bug... ed_ "RacerX" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:[email hidden]...

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> I couldn't find any reference to this problem on this newsgroup so I > wanted to see if anyone else has seen it. > > Regularly AI drivers on the first dropping of the green flag are > cutting hard left down into the grass and then driving through the > infield into the first turn. Usually about 3 drivers do it, in the > back. Often they are a row or two behind me. On one occasion the guy > to the outside of me did it and ran into me, driving me into the > infield. If 3 drivers do it, they move together like synchronized > swimmers (i.e. they are not trying to avoid each other, but rather all > seem to be taking an "alternative line" {if you can call it that}). > > Anybody else see this? > > I have a new PC; P4 1.7 Ghz, 512 MB RAM. Part of me wonders if this > is a bug caused by the chip being too fast, only because the original > DOS Red Baron used to exhibit similar pilot weirdness when you ran it > on a Pentium chip. Otherwise I'm wondering why nobody has mentioned > and why it hasn't been fixed in a patch... > > I've definitely seen this happen at Daytona; not sure about other > tracks. > > Patrick

and if it was happening in F1RC you would have always trhe same people (they will recognize themselves) crying that this is outrageous and that UBI is always doing the same shit and so on.... "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> a �crit dans le message news: 8yQ67.36$[email hidden]...

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> I believe this is a known bug... > > ed_ > > > > "RacerX" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:[email hidden]... > > I couldn't find any reference to this problem on this newsgroup so I > > wanted to see if anyone else has seen it. > > > > Regularly AI drivers on the first dropping of the green flag are > > cutting hard left down into the grass and then driving through the > > infield into the first turn. Usually about 3 drivers do it, in the > > back. Often they are a row or two behind me. On one occasion the guy > > to the outside of me did it and ran into me, driving me into the > > infield. If 3 drivers do it, they move together like synchronized > > swimmers (i.e. they are not trying to avoid each other, but rather all > > seem to be taking an "alternative line" {if you can call it that}). > > > > Anybody else see this? > > > > I have a new PC; P4 1.7 Ghz, 512 MB RAM. Part of me wonders if this > > is a bug caused by the chip being too fast, only because the original > > DOS Red Baron used to exhibit similar pilot weirdness when you ran it > > on a Pentium chip. Otherwise I'm wondering why nobody has mentioned > > and why it hasn't been fixed in a patch... > > > > I've definitely seen this happen at Daytona; not sure about other > > tracks. > > > > Patrick > > >

RacerX wrote:

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> > I couldn't find any reference to this problem on this newsgroup so I > wanted to see if anyone else has seen it. > > Regularly AI drivers on the first dropping of the green flag are > cutting hard left down into the grass and then driving through the > infield into the first turn. Usually about 3 drivers do it, in the > back. Often they are a row or two behind me. On one occasion the guy > to the outside of me did it and ran into me, driving me into the > infield. If 3 drivers do it, they move together like synchronized > swimmers (i.e. they are not trying to avoid each other, but rather all > seem to be taking an "alternative line" {if you can call it that}). > > Anybody else see this?

It's a known bug. Not talked about much because most people don't race the AI in N4. Online racing is the only way to go. -- Fester

"patched" the file how? I assume you mean hacked it as if it was just a patch you could connect to sierra.com with no problems. "Txl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:H3V67.1510$[email hidden]...

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> well I'm stuck in N4 with the AI becuase I patched the nascar 4 file and > sierra.com won't let me in....any other places whgere big brother won't be > watching ? something like VROC for nascar ? > > Thx > > > "Uncle Fester" <[email hidden]> a �crit dans le message news: > [email hidden]... > > > > Txl wrote: > > > > > > and if it was happening in F1RC you would have always trhe same people > (they > > > will recognize themselves) crying that this is outrageous and that UBI > is > > > always doing the same shit and so on.... > > > > > > Only because with F1RC people are stuck racing with the AI. It's not > > necessary in N4, it has great multiplayer. No need to go anywhere near > > the AI. > > > > -- > > > > Fester > > > >

Txl wrote: > > and if it was happening in F1RC you would have always trhe same people (they > will recognize themselves) crying that this is outrageous and that UBI is > always doing the same shit and so on.... Only because with F1RC people are stuck racing with the AI. It's not necessary in N4, it has great multiplayer. No need to go anywhere near the AI. -- Fester

well I'm stuck in N4 with the AI becuase I patched the nascar 4 file and sierra.com won't let me in....any other places whgere big brother won't be watching ? something like VROC for nascar ? Thx "Uncle Fester" <[email hidden]> a �crit dans le message news: [email hidden]... > > Txl wrote: > > > > and if it was happening in F1RC you would have always trhe same people(they > > will recognize themselves) crying that this is outrageous and that UBIis

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> > always doing the same shit and so on.... > > > Only because with F1RC people are stuck racing with the AI. It's not > necessary in N4, it has great multiplayer. No need to go anywhere near > the AI. > > -- > > Fester >

Txl wrote: > > well I'm stuck in N4 with the AI becuase I patched the nascar 4 file and > sierra.com won't let me in....any other places whgere big brother won't be > watching ? something like VROC for nascar ? > > Thx Not that I'm aware of. Far as I know, the cd is required for any multiplayer activity. :-/ Sorry. -- Fester

ML wrote: > > "patched" the file how? > I assume you mean hacked it as if it was just a patch you could connect to > sierra.com with no problems. No-cd patch. He had mentioned it in another thread. -- Fester

hmm, too bad, well thanks anyway I have tried to rename the "patched" to something like "nascar 4.exe" and put the original one from sierra in the same folder, but it won't work... I guess GPL it is then... "Uncle Fester" <[email hidden]> a �crit dans le message news: [email hidden]... > > ML wrote: > > > > "patched" the file how? > > I assume you mean hacked it as if it was just a patch you could connectto

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> > sierra.com with no problems. > > > No-cd patch. He had mentioned it in another thread. > > -- > > Fester >

nocd patch from GCW no big deal "ML" <[email hidden]> a �crit dans le message news: rBV67.267315$[email hidden]...

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> "patched" the file how? > I assume you mean hacked it as if it was just a patch you could connect to > sierra.com with no problems. > > "Txl" <[email hidden]> wrote in message > news:H3V67.1510$[email hidden]... > > well I'm stuck in N4 with the AI becuase I patched the nascar 4 file and > > sierra.com won't let me in....any other places whgere big brother won't

be

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> > watching ? something like VROC for nascar ? > > > > Thx > > > > > > "Uncle Fester" <[email hidden]> a �crit dans le message news: > > [email hidden]... > > > > > > Txl wrote: > > > > > > > > and if it was happening in F1RC you would have always trhe same

people > > (they > > > > will recognize themselves) crying that this is outrageous and thatUBI > > is > > > > always doing the same shit and so on.... > > > > > > > > > Only because with F1RC people are stuck racing with the AI. It's not > > > necessary in N4, it has great multiplayer. No need to go anywherenear

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> > > the AI. > > > > > > -- > > > > > > Fester > > > > > > > > >

Whats the problem? CD-drive stopped working? - Or perhaps.....? Go buy the game! ed_ "Txl" <[email hidden]> wrote:

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> nocd patch from GCW > > no big deal > > "ML" wrote: > > "patched" the file how? > > I assume you mean hacked it as if it was just a patch you could connect

to > > sierra.com with no problems.

cd drive works, cd works, it's just so bloody annoying that i have to fetch the cd everytime to go online... On the other hand also annoying is the fact that 1 You suspect anybody as soon as he/she is not "mainstream" 2 Even if the game I have is not bought, what do you care ? do you have to rule ? Long live GCW and the nocd patches, after all even MS stopped doing this so why can I use a multi thousand dollar program without a CD and have to bother looking for a 40 bucks game just to please the sierra people ? "Ed Solheim" <[email hidden]> a �crit dans le message news: 4CW67.21$[email hidden]...

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> Whats the problem? > CD-drive stopped working? > - Or perhaps.....? > > Go buy the game! > > ed_ > > "Txl" <[email hidden]> wrote: > > > nocd patch from GCW > > > > no big deal > > > > > "ML" wrote: > > > > "patched" the file how? > > > I assume you mean hacked it as if it was just a patch you could

connect > to > > > sierra.com with no problems. > > > >

Uncle Fester <[email hidden]> wrote in message news:<[email hidden]>...

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> > > > Anybody else see this? > > > > It's a known bug. Not talked about much because most people don't race > the AI in N4. Online racing is the only way to go.

Thanks. The online racing is indeed fantastic, but I also enjoy racing against the AI because 1) It's better to learn tracks and setups against the AI so as not to cause wrecks online and 2) Too many people don't agree with #1 and make the online experience a little too Demolition Derby on occasion.

LOL@Ed!! Are you a mind reader Ed? hahaha :o) "Ed Solheim" wrote:

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| Whats the problem? | CD-drive stopped working? | - Or perhaps.....? | | Go buy the game! | | ed_

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